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Discover top brands at unexpectedly low prices. Sierra, let's get moving. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast. This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Chris Cody and Roy are late to the party at the Elbow Room. It is crazy there already. I told you it would be. You wanted it to be done and just people were ready to move on.

And, yeah, we got to get them there. Now we're worried about traffic. Oh, boy. That is correct. It takes a while to get there. But Chris Cody has left. Roy has left. And you will forgive us for just generally being a little bit drunk here. That is going to be my excuse for confusing Reinhardt and Bennett a couple of segments ago. And Zaslow was on ESPN Radio Game Night last night immediately after the victory. He doesn't remember anything he said. I don't remember that.

I mean, I think I did fine. I think I gave them what they wanted. I mean, I don't remember. He doesn't remember. It was celebratory elbow room feeling. Break that shit. Jessica is about to join us here because we have an emergency. There was another giant thing that happened in sports last night. Yeah, the video is...

Amazing to watch just anytime there's a fight. But on our list of tensions, right, we have a hierarchy of tensions. We begin with what to describe this fight, how to describe this fight during Fever Sun. We've got chicanery is at the very bottom. Hijinks, malarkey, skullduggery, shenanigans, tiff, spat.

Quarrel, Tomfoolery, Skirmish, Frackus, Hullabaloo, Ballyhoo, Dust Up, Brouhaha, Armageddon, Agree to Disagree. You just went to Urban Thesaurus and you came up with words. I mean, this is not... You interrupted me as I went from Armageddon to Agree to Disagree. That was it.

You stepped right on the joke. This is how you're setting this up. This was a great, entertaining basketball game. Fever 88, Sun 71. This was chippy basketball. And this was the return now, this week, of Kaitlyn Clark to the league.

And announcing her presence with authority versus the Liberty in the way that she did. And now this was good basketball that is now veering off to something else. And Jessica, we bring you in here. And I want to get your take on this. What you saw last night. Start with the Sheldon foul on Kaitlyn Clark. The poke to the eye. And then what happens after that?

I'm going to start with Dan and say fracas. It was a fracas. When I told you I wanted to talk about this, I said it was a fracas and I stand by that designation. I don't think this was anything more than a fracas. I'm certainly not an agree to disagree, but it also was not tomfoolery.

Was it a dust-up? No, it was not a dust-up. But we need to establish this right at the start. This is an allowable fracas in the playing of basketball, in your opinion, Jessica. Yeah, I think this is competitive sports and...

Did Sophie Cunningham take it a little bit too far? Yeah, and I think she was penalized for that. But I think if you're going to criticize any aspect of what happened in the game, it's that the referees sort of let things get out of hand and maybe did not adjudicate some of the earlier fouls properly. There was, you know, J.C. Sheldon and Kaitlyn Clark have been playing against each other for a long time. They played against each other in, you know, the Big Ten in college. And so J.C. Sheldon was guarding Kaitlyn Clark.

During the game and as early as the second quarter, there was obviously some words between the two of them. If you want to do some lip reading, there were maybe some F-bombs dropped around from Kaitlyn Clark. And then when J.C. Sheldon appeared to poke her in the eye later in the game, Marina Mabry comes in. Marina Mabry is a former Notre Dame player. So, of course, I have to defend her because she's one of my favorites. But Marina Mabry, Marina Mabry. She does what Marina Mabry does. Yes. She's going to...

insert in and defend her teammates. So she kind of like hip check slash like push Caitlin Clark, Caitlin Clark fell. That was a point in the game where, you know, I think JC Sheldon got a flagrant one for the eye poke, but then everyone else was assessed technicals. And there may be some criticism that Marina Mabry should have gotten ejected there. I think, you know, that's certainly up for debate.

And I think it's also worth noting the Sun are not the best team in the WNBA. They're actually the worst, if not maybe like the second worst. Like the Dallas Wings are also pretty bad. But the Fever are a championship contender team. So at the end of the game when most of the starters were out,

The Fever were up by 17 points, and Sophie Cunningham decided to prevent J.C. Sheldon from scoring on a layup, and that's when the fracas began. I would say everything before the fracas was just sort of basketball-y, players defending their teammates sort of thing, and then the fracas occurred in the fourth quarter, which was...

It took the referees like 10 minutes to decide what to do. They ended up ejecting a bunch of players, including Lindsay Allen, which I don't even know what she... She looked like she was trying to break it up. It was just very silly. And so, yeah, there's been a lot of internet discourse today about Sophie Cunningham. Dan, I think you would probably like to know this, but people call her Magga Barbie.

That's part of all of this too. So yeah, it was a spicy meatball. I love that our show went from what we were describing as hungover slop to breaking out into Around the Horn where Tony's hosting and we're bringing in Jessica and she's using words like adjudicate to give informed analysis. I don't know what happened, but I love it. Well, this is a very interesting story to me and for me and Jessica. I think the conversation really needs to start with how people view Caitlin Clarke.

And whether people view that the WNBA needs to protect Kaitlyn Clark, the golden goose of a league, as she is being called...

from rough play in the playing of game and your view of that. Because for me, when I watch this with my eyes, I'm like, that's a little face guarding. That's a poke in the eye. That's in the play of basketball. Mabry comes in for a hip check. Well, I see that in other NBA games and it's not front page of USA Today the next day. That happens every

And then Cunningham, Sophie Cunningham's on this team because she's going to now be an enforcer for Kaitlyn Clark. And I think that's a wise move by Indiana. But do you believe the WMEA has to be more serious in protecting one player over other players because of the...

physicality around how defenders now are with Kaitlyn Clark. Yeah, I mean, my take on this, I think, has been pretty consistent since Kaitlyn Clark was in college, which is that she dishes it out. And I think that it's a disservice to her as an athlete to pretend like she can't also take it. Like, I think her being someone who can play really aggressive, hard basketball and competitive basketball and can, you know, smack talk back and forth with other players is something that's part of her game and something that, you know,

should be celebrated as well as her long threes. Like, those are the things that we love in athletes. And so I think that, like, you know, this conversation is sort of spun out of control and, like, needing to protect her. I don't think if she's going to swear at other players and, like, get in other players' faces, then, like, they should be able to get back in her face and

the referee should be able to assess penalties if it goes too far, which is what they did. And I, again, like I agree that there's, I think a conversation to be had about if Marina should have been ejected for that or not. Obviously people that don't like Caitlin Clark are saying that she flopped when, you know, Marina hip checked her and she sold the foul, which is again, something basketball players do and should do. That's part of the game is to sell fouls and to get your,

opponent to have a technical or whatever so that they're in trouble for the rest of the game. Like this is all part of basketball. So yeah, I don't want to, I really don't want this to like go to that extreme level where now people are saying just crazy things because this is, this has been around in the WNBA for a long time. It's a really aggressive sport.

It's a competitive sport. It's a contact sport. And yes, do things get out of hand? Of course they do sometimes. And I think the pressure should be on the officials to prevent that and to, when it happens, be able to assess it and give fair punishments. Jeremy just chimed in while he was watching what's happening around here. And when you chimed in very precisely there with the word precisely, he was expecting to hear the around the horn sound of points given.

It's been ingrained in all of us. Evidently, that's one of your tells. Jessica, I would say that would have been a 15-point answer. Really? Wow. Absolutely a 15-point answer. Wow. You'd be leading going into the buy yourself. A 15-point answer. Well, I mean, here's what happens. If you're watching a game and then you're watching social media watch a game, it goes so sideways so quickly. And this should be celebrated for physical basketball because it's

We wouldn't be leading parades that the NBA needs to protect these certain players from being poked in the eye. Last time out of the court, Kaitlin Clark hit six three-pointers from over 26 feet. How do you stop that? Well, you've got to put a hand in a face. Eye poking happens in basketball. Now, the hip check that comes afterward, it happens in basketball, too. It's not a basketball play. It gets assessed a tee or an ejection, and we move on from that.

The Indiana Fever built this team. They're a wagon this year. They haven't played a full game of basketball really this whole season. They haven't got the full DeJuana Bonner yet. They haven't gotten the full Kaitlyn Clark, as we know her. She missed three weeks. But they're going to be a contender this season. But what they were smart, they built a team now with some enforcers. Sophie Cunningham is happy to mix it up.

That's cool. When you say the words, that's a wagon, I've heard them all the time. The Panthers are officially a wagon now. They were officially, they were a wagon last year, they're a double wagon now. It's something that's just not the best players. It's a team that really complements each other, I think, more than the team we saw last year. But where does the expression come from? Forgive me for not knowing. They're a wagon. I know what it means, but I don't know how it starts or why it is the Panthers are a wagon. But they're called a wagon. Do you know?

You're asking me for the etymology of a phrase that is not. They're going downhill, and it's really hard to stop. Like someone has a wagon. Ooh, they got a big butt. Okay. That's where I've heard it. I'm not saying that either in this discussion. I think that's a caboose. The New York Liberty and the Minnesota Lynx are the best teams in the WNBA, but the Fever now are right there with the roster that they put out there. And we can keep this conversation always as we should about basketball, but that is a team going downhill now. Got that thing.

in a way that is hard to say. No, we're not doing this. He's right. We're not doing this. He's right about that. We're not doing this. You got a fatty dumpy, Dan. So now you're at minus 15 points, Seth, and now your back-to-back broadcaster of the year is really... I mean, this might well be a Jessica FaceTime here.

15-point answer. You just gave that up. Have you heard another 15-point answer from anybody this week? You've been here all week. Have you heard a single 15-point answer? Well, I really like Billy going for the Ocean's 14 job stealing the Stanley Cup. I thought that would have been outstanding. That was well thought out. It was there. It was there for the taking. It still may be. What is going on with Roy and Chris Cody? The elbow room is insane. I'd like video as fast as you guys can get it,

behind all of us, videos all over the internet of we're breaking the trophy. The trophy's being broken at the Elbow Room. The party has begun in South Florida. Yes, Jessica? I would just like to say if I were there today, Dan, I would be begging you not to go to the Elbow Room because that is, who would want to drive all the way to the Elbow Room? Again, it's about the driving. This is unbelievable. After they've just driven all the way down to Miami, there's no way in hell you could pay me to go to the Elbow Room today, Dan. It's been what?

probably seven, eight weeks since the last time I drove on I-95 in Miami. I never want to do it again. So we talked earlier, Jessica, about whether championship fatigue was in play here. And we didn't think it was true for this particular team, the Panthers, because of the way they... I think Jessica had to move because of the traffic. She's not complaining about a small thing. It is a suffering down here. We have seven times too many people. We don't need this many people down here. We don't have the infrastructure for this many cars.

Like, Jessica, I think she moved because traffic, number one. I live a pretty beautiful life. I have multiple jobs that I love. I have a beautiful, loving wife. I think the thing that keeps me from feeling like I have a perfect life is the drive back and forth from Broward County to come do this show every day. Are Chris and Roy there yet? We sent them too late. They have not gotten there yet. They're going to get there at like

4 p.m., Dan. It's a work day and there's traffic pretty much from 4.30 in the morning. If only we could have foreseen that this was a possibility. It's going to take them hours to get there. And then they have to find parking. All right, so we will see. That's going to take an hour and a half. We will see when a hungover Roy and a hungover... Well, Roy's dry. A hungover Chris...

joins us with hungover Zaslow, who can't remember what he said on ESPN Radio Game Night. I was talking earlier this week about, and I don't know, we became fascinated for about a week before about that submersible being stuck in the bottom of the ocean and the idea that people were trapped down there. There are now not one but two documentaries. I've only seen one of them, and I know this is a Jessica...

interest from going back where we were all captivated by this story. The documentary I saw, I don't know which one of the two it is, it was very good and it answered almost all of my questions. Were the two documentaries comparable? Have you seen both of these?

I have seen both Ocean Gate Titan submersible documentaries, Dan, so you don't have to. I am here to report that, yes, they are about the same. There's some subtle differences in them. One was on HBO. It was, I think, produced by Discovery and BBC. That one has more of the Coast Guard investigation in it. It has the mother of the 19-year-old who died on the submersible with his father. It has a few interviews that the Netflix one doesn't have, and then, likewise, the Netflix

One has David Lockridge, who was a former Ocean Gate employee who sued, filed a whistleblower complaint with OSHA and sued, was sued, countersued. And he sort of blew the whistle on the whole thing before the submersible actually imploded, saying that this was unsafe information.

And so that, you know, they're a little bit different, a little bit different talking heads, but essentially the same thing, which is that this thing was doomed from the start. And it was a terrible idea to use carbon fiber to create a submersible that was going to go down this far. It had never been done before because that material is not conducive to that amount of pressure. And the guy, if he hadn't died, Stockton Rush, with his submersible, he would be the most sued person.

person alive, like the most in jail person that's ever been accused of a crime. Is that measurable? Most in jail? Yes. Like he he knew that this was not a good idea, but he kept going.

It felt to me by the end of the documentary I saw, you correct me if I have it wrong with the other documentary, but not just that as the conclusion, but that it is possible that he at the end took one of those trips because he knew that's how his life was going to end, to get away from what would be all of his problems because there was no way that his dreams were going to come true on whatever the commerce of that thing was supposed to be. And he took five people down with him?

I mean, that's, yeah, I mean, that's the exactly Tony, like that's the tragedy of it. Like this, it's sort of easy to laugh at. I, I guess if you can try to not think it's hard to like separate the fact that like some innocent people died for me. So it's like not funny, but like,

I don't know, I guess people find some humor in the fact that these super wealthy people thought they could do this. I'm not sure. But anyways, yes, Dan, there are people that speculate that he was sort of like borderline suicidal because he had so much money tied up in this and he knew that the second hull that they constructed after the first one was compromised and needed to be rebuilt was actually not suitable. And so he'd rather be on the submersible if something happened versus on the boat that

you know, the like recovery boat or whatever the boat's called, a support boat, I think. And I don't know if that's true. I think that I've also read other people say that, no, he actually believed this thing was really safe and he totally had complete faith in his creation. So I don't, I think there's a lot of speculation there.

Have any of you been on a submarine? The idea of it, the comfort level that you would have going to pressures in a tube? I've not been in one. But the idea, this thing is super small, okay? The craziness of going to the Titanic in this thing and him thinking that the carbon fiber was making it the safest place in the world while...

It's making sounds from the pressure of carbon fiber breaking in a way that like reminds you, oh, this thing is breaking while he's saying it's safe. Like the whole thing sounded. How big was the window that they were looking at? Very small. Very small. So the point is bolted on with like four bolts. And that was it. And you couldn't open it from the inside.

The whole thing felt claustrophobic to me in a way I can't even explain to you. But you go on a glass-bottom boat, and it's always underwhelming. It's always like, oh, there's one fish that looks to be moving by, and there's more schmutz in the water than you're expecting. So you're not getting the views. Not worth it. And everything about it, when we thought it was possible, they had...

What was it, Jessica? 24, 36 hours of air if they were, you know, not immediately deceased by the crack and pressure and we were pinging noises down there. Just imagine being complete darkness for 36 hours. I mean, everything about it is a nightmare. Yeah.

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Dan Levitard. Lightning. Panthers. What do you think? Stugatz. Look at this face while I tell this to you. Okay, because I don't want there to be any kind of confusion. You look me right in the eye. Panthers are going to take that ass, man. This is the Dan Levitard Show with the Stugatz. Let's segue to other things. Was that part of the morning, around the morn segment? That would have been good. Submersible, around the morn. Around the morn, submersible trivia and questions about Alonzo Mourning.

around the more... Oh, that's actually a decent idea. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't hear him. I would say... There's nothing decent about this. There's nothing. One more thing, which is that, like, the audience is probably sick of hearing us talk about this, and I understand. However, I also thought I was sick of this story and didn't care about it anymore until I watched the first documentary, and then I was like, oh, no.

I can't get enough of this. This is like one of the most absurd things that has ever happened. And I keep reading more and more about it. I'm on the Ocean Gate Titan Reddit, like the subreddit. Should I watch the second one? I've seen the one with the mother. So is it worth watching the second one or is it just going to be redundant? I mean, it depends how much free time you have. Because was it the fire festival? I watched both of those documentaries and those were both very different. I enjoyed both of them.

It's unfortunate when two documentaries on the same subject. Those people had to be rushing each other to try and beat each other to market. I want a documentary on that. A documentary on the two documentaries and how we are navigating that. I am told we have live elbow room coverage. Do we have a camera present wherever it is that, okay, they've gathered on that corner. Look at the frenzy. Canada, eat your heart out right there. The frenzy on the corner. What is that? That's

near Las Olas which the quarterdeck is around the corner what street is that what corner is that do we know the street names I believe that's the corner of A1A and Las Olas specifically it could be sunrise I will confirm for you beach looking good today well yes it's looked lovely the last three days but not worth the traffic according to Jessica this is unbelievable but

Chris and Roy are not yet there. We have a camera there, a live cam, but not yet Chris and Roy. Okay, we'll wait for them to get there. Yesterday, Stugatz left, and I thought it was funny that he left. This is the first art story that I have ever seen Stugatz take interest in, and it's because some tourists in Italy were at a museum and just sat on a chair that was like, who was it made by? Who was the chair made by? Jessica may know this for sure, but I believe it was not made

by Van Gogh. It was made in the spirit of Van Gogh. That's why it's not maybe a timeless piece, right Jessica?

Exactly. It's like a contemporary rendition of the famous chair painting that Van Gogh painted, you know, in the 19th century. So it is not in itself a priceless work of art, but it is a Swarovski crystal chair in a museum in Verona, Italy. And they just up and dipped after they broke it, right? Yeah. It's incredible video because it's exactly what you would expect to happen.

We've all been in museums and you want to get your chance to get real close and then do something silly like, oh, I'm going to pretend to be licking the Mona Lisa or something like that, right? In a photo. Or you do the, ah, look at me, I'm pushing the leading tower of Pisa type thing. But you never actually...

Touch it. You never actually sit in it. Yeah, they broke it. And then and then it's just, oh, let's get out of here. And they left. I mean, they actually they did. They did the smart thing, though, which is like they didn't get up and run away. According to the article I read, they just like sort of slowly walked out and blended into the crowd. And they still have it. There's video of it, though. That's what you get. You get that look when they realize we did it right. We sat in the chair. We broke it.

But I heard people saying they sat in Van Gogh's chair. They didn't sit in Van Gogh's chair. They sat in somebody doing a little version of it with some nice crystals. You can never run away. The whole point is if you do something nefarious, you got to walk away like it never happened. Just like Ethan Hunt. But you don't turn back. You don't turn back. The explosion is happening behind you. You never turn back. It's like Ethan Hunt where he's walking in a crowd and all of a sudden he disappears and you're like, where'd he go?

Boom, just like that. You can never run away. Running away draws some signs. I mean, the number one question that everyone was asking when this video came out was, were they American? And I guess we still just don't know because they haven't come forward. So that's kind of... Never found them. Yeah.

I want on all the videos and all the televisions in here to see Elbow Room Celebration. The Stanley Cup is at its rightful place between Rock Bar and the Quarter Deck and Ben and Jerry's. Rock Bar. It is where it belongs. This is where the Stanley Cup should be forever. I am told that Bennett is chanting eight more years. He is at the Elbow Room telling everybody that he's going to sign an extension when he...

I just associate Bennett with cash register. Every time he scored, the announcer analysis was always, oh my God, he's going to get paid so much. And now he's just shouting, what's that going to cost, Aslo? Eight more years. The Panthers are drunk on power. They've got the business to afford expensive players. Hopefully something like eight by eight, maybe eight and a half.

The Panthers have $19 million in salary cap space. So, eight and a half on Bennett's lot, but it's doable. They could do it. It's hockey. It's like a million dollars a year, basically.

What's going to be the cost? Who are they going to lose from the deepest? I can make the argument, this I can say, right? There was an undefeated Dolphins team and obviously LeBron and Wade and Bosh. But I can say this right here in front of us is the deepest South Florida championship thing we've ever seen. So who are they going to lose? Yeah, so remember, hard salary caps. There's no wiggle room. But Bennett's going to resign immediately.

I would guess we will get the Bennett news like on parade day. I feel like last year on parade day, we got the Reinhardt extension. That's right. That's going to happen this year. On parade day, we'll get the Bennett extension. And so, you know, then it's do you keep Ekblad out?

Ekblad's not going to make another $8 million, like $8.5 million that he makes right now. If they can get Ekblad for maybe $5 million, that would be great. Does Ekblad say, hey, I just won two Stanley Cups. Let me cash in one more time and leave? He might. I think they could work it out with Ekblad. And then you turn to Marchand and you're like, hey, we'd really love to keep you. That was fun, huh? Yeah, let's do it again. And then if that works out, they literally have the entire core of the team ruined.

locked up for years. This is not going to end, potentially won't end for a while. And then you just, you know, the back end of the roster, you bring in more one-year guys like they did this past year. To your point on Bennett, Reinhardt, last year, it was announced that morning that

And then he actually ended up sending in a video for the championship parade. Oh, because he had a wedding. Because he had a wedding he had to go to for one of his best friends. And it just so happened to be scheduled for the parade that was after Game 7. So it was the one time it couldn't happen. But he got his money. He got to celebrate. And I imagine that wedding was for the Bucs. There's just no way that they don't lock up Bennett. There's no way. Well, if he's chanting...

I would imagine it's done. That makes it official. No, I mean, look, once you get to chanting at the elbow room, it's finished. That is a binding contract. And everyone knows it. And it's the history of the elbow room. Should I report it? Yes. Yes. If he's chanting, if he himself is chanting eight more years, doesn't he know that he's locked up for eight more years? All right. You know what? You know what? I'm a journalist. This doesn't sound like journalism. Well, it is journalism. I'm a journalist. I have something to report.

Put it on the crawl. Sam Bennett and the Florida Panthers have agreed to a long-term contract extension. Would you say it's about eight years? I'm hearing that it's eight years. This is not journalism. I'm hearing that it's eight years. I don't have the exact figures yet, but I can report. Put it on the crawl. I can report. Sam Bennett and the Florida Panthers, consummate winning, Sam Bennett, have agreed to a long-term contract extension. So,

When someone else there on Twitter or whatever else, Instagram, I don't care. Whenever some other journalist. Sam Bennett himself. That's the other. I'm not revealing my sources. You're trying to get me to reveal my sources. I would go to prison before I reveal my sources. If another journalist comes out and reports it, it better say as first reported by Jonathan Zaslow. Otherwise, you're sus and you have no integrity.

I want you guys to look at the elbow room right now, and I like to call it a land of a thousand Chris Codys. That is the elbow room, everybody. Chris Cody is there, and he is multiplying. Guy in the top right there, security guard, sweaty. I've seen him do the shirt over the brows and wipe his sweat a couple times. It's very hot over there. Big hoss in the hallway right there. Chris Cody was not joking when he said he would fit right in. Jessica, do you miss...

It was a year ago at this time. You were in the middle of a championship celebration. You saw Greg Cody and all the majesty around him during the parade. Do you miss being a part of us being extra obnoxious on a winning day? No, I honestly didn't know the Panthers won the Stanley Cup till when I tuned in this morning at nine o'clock. So congrats.

guys I'm so happy for you but no I'm glad I wasn't in person for the J off between Zaslow and Cody yeah well the J off yes what what reality just did there though that's not right is that he attacked Jonathan Zaslow there no no no and his journalism what do you know you talked to Jackie McMullen a few times and you think you know something that Zaslow doesn't Jackie Mack like and what do you think you know about journalism that Zaslow doesn't look at me look at him

I respect the confidence. I respect the confidence. Well, he's reporting. Not only is he reporting that it's done, he's saying they're not going to announce it until the parade. He didn't even add that part. That's just extra stuff he's given you. Okay, cool it, Marchand, whichever one it is that is weird about journalism. Oh, pronouncing names is how I should be allowed to age. Thank you, Jess. Not that Tony. Not that Tony.

How many names do Tony, what are the signs of Tony and Mike aging? What are the televised signs? Well, I mean, the Wilbon Shuffle. You saw it firsthand when he came in for South Beach Sessions. You know, the Wilbon Shuffle is incredible. I mean, Tony has, his curmudgeonly ways have softened.

I mean, I feel like he's much more lovable. I meant on air, the mistakes being made on air because they're aging. She's making fun of me because I haven't pronounced Marshawn. No, I actually wasn't making fun of you. I was trying to make fun of a columnist that was like mad that he was a journalist or something. The mistakes are always calling somebody by their father's name.

name right that's always the mistake so let's say it was andrew luck it was oliver luck that's always what happens you remember somebody who you first covered cody bellinger clay bellinger type type mix oh that's an interesting one i was gonna say saying the wrong person won the consmith trophy well that that would be another one yeah now i'm making fun of dad yeah that one hurt

That one hurt. It's why it took two hours to get to somebody scored four goals in a clinching game last night. Usually that's the thing that echoes. You did more time on traffic than you did on Conn Smythe. That first goal was unbelievable. That was one of the greatest goals you've ever seen. That first goal from Rod. You see that? He scored it on his back.

I don't think the game was over. This game's 5-0. Can anyone here give me the historical context of what it should feel like, four goals and a clincher? In a series that you've dominated, if you become a champion that puts the punctuation on the championship with four goals and a clincher, who are the comps there across sports on somebody just burying someone else with just an outsized performance? Giannis.

Giannis had 51 in that closeout game, and he made all of his free throws in Game 6 of the finals. Giannis, I think, is a pretty good one. Freddie Freeman, last World Series, where he was just going bananas, hitting home runs all over the place?

I don't know in hockey. I didn't do the reading necessary to know how rare a four-goal game in a clincher would be. Well, they said on the telecast when he had the hat trick and then into the fourth wing, Gretzky, that's a good name to be brought up when you're doing things. Decent. So that's pretty decent. And then that's, you know. Messier guaranteed game six in 94. That's a different thing entirely. And he got a hat trick. Yeah, that's a different thing entirely. He guaranteed a win. Two empty netters.

Does that change the way you feel about four? Yes. Yes. Yeah, let's be honest. Okay, okay. Yeah, like the first two goals, a little weightier than the last. So that's some journalism I can respect. Thank you. Not only is that journalism, I wonder if history will remember that. No one will remember that.

No, one road member. No, no, no, no. People tried to do this with Ovechkin this year, with 895. Because while he now has the all-time goal record, he also had the all-time empty net record, you know, sooner than he had the all-time goal record. Gretzky definitely had a bunch of empty net goals. Of course, of course. But I know people who want to make that half a goal in your all-time rankings. That's ridiculous.

I want to leave you with this. Have you guys seen anything with the Pedro Pascal lookalike contest? I don't know about that. So Pedro Pascal is like because of I guess it would be the combination right of the last two. He did Narcos. He did The Last of Us and he's become like a real crossover. Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones. That's correct as well. So he's become a giant star. And what happened with the lookalike contest winner? Does it not look?

anything like Pedro Pascal? Let me see some video here. Actually, Dan looks so much like him that I think that it's actually just him pretending to be this other guy. That's a good bit. That's a great bit. If he can carry that out for weeks without letting it be known. Do we have it? I haven't seen this. One-upping Chalamet who just showed up to see the winner. Pascal actually decides, you know what? I'm just going to compete myself. So this is what middle-aged people do now for fun? They show up at events where they...

Who do we have for a levitard lookalike? Who do we think? Can we do that? That's exactly the game I want to play, but let's watch the Pedro Pascal lookalike first because he has an interesting actual career that is relevant. Take a look at this. This is kind of funny. So that's him? That is a Pedro Pascal. Oh, that is amazing. He looks just like him.

Oh, even the gesticulating, you know? He's giving you a little bit of a flare and a kiss. It's more of a big deal, I think, here at the show, because that Pedro Pascal is our lighting designer. Yes!

That's amazing. That's great, too. What a great fit. No way. George is doing this. George is George. What? No way. But he's leaning into it, right? I've never known the mustache that he looks like. Pedro Pascal. Do we have a picture of what he looks like around the office? Oh, okay. He cleaned it up. Okay. I see what's happening. How did you do this? Well, it's pretty funny. Tyler Goldman, stage manager, sent out a group text.

on maybe Wednesday last week. Where's Tyler? There he is. What's up, Tyler? And he was like, yo, you should go win a year of free burritos. And I was like, okay. And I went home on that day and I forgot about it. And then on Friday, I showed it to my wife and she was like, yo, you're doing this. And my wife,

A neighbor in my building is a stylist. She has more still photography shoots. And she was like, yo, I've got pants. I got shoes. Here's glasses. She's like, you just got to get a shirt. And I showed up on Father's Day. You were supposed to have pre-signed up. I did not sign up. I rolled up. And I'm like, yo, I'm here.

You're going to win. It's the haircut. It's a good bit. It's everything. It's a good bit. You throw some glasses and a mustache as opposed to the beard and it changes everything. He looked nothing like Pedro Pascal. And now I've never seen someone look more like another person. Yeah, he's got a Clark Kent Superman thing going on there. Jessica, good seeing you again. Talk to you next week. Danny Benitez is our Dan Levittard lookalike. That was my idea. Okay, bye.

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