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Jessica Smetana: 我对航空非常着迷,以至于我的合同里有规定,只要节目里谈到航空,我就会收到提醒并加入节目。我对内森·菲尔德的《The Rehearsal》印象深刻,他为了完成一个笑点付出了巨大的努力,甚至还成为了飞行员。此外,我认为法网在安排女子比赛方面做得不够好,应该给予女子选手更多的关注。女子大学世界系列赛也很精彩,即使我不完全了解规则,我也一直在观看。最后,我承认我犯了一个错误,把 Lorde 的专辑名《Pure Heroin》误解为她吸毒。 Dan Le Batard: Jessica 对航空的热情是众所周知的,内森·菲尔德正在利用他的喜剧来真正地改变世界,做好事。当想到在雇主的节目中批评雇主的人时,我会想到 David Letterman、John Oliver 和 Nathan Fielder。

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The show discusses Nathan Fielder's "The Rehearsal" and its surprising finale, where Fielder reveals his two-year endeavor of training to be a pilot and even transporting planes in South America. The conversation explores various aspects of the show, from its comedic elements to the real-life implications of Fielder's actions.
  • Nathan Fielder's "The Rehearsal" finale reveals his secret pilot training and plane transportation job.
  • The show's comedic elements are discussed, along with the unexpected real-life consequences of Fielder's actions.
  • The show's unexpected payoff is a major topic of conversation.

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Jessica negotiated a very difficult deal in order to get to New York and have in her contract something that said that at any time that we were talking about aviation, she gets an alert and gets to just drop into the show and talk about aviation as our aviation expert and the one who

Just as fascinated by flying as tracking flights in her spare time and must be, I would assume, fascinated by the show we were just talking about with Nathan Fielder. Mike is right that the awkward comedians, it's Ali G, it's Norm MacDonald, it's Andy Kaufman. But Nathan Fielder wants to take his place among the all-time greats with awkwardness.

because what he's doing, the curse is also great. I'm telling you, it's not just the rehearsal that's great on Max. I just can't believe the freedom this guy's getting. So Jessica, thank you. It's nice to see you again. I want all of your thoughts on the rehearsal because I'm assuming you're just fascinated by all things Nathan Fielder. And I just can't believe he's using his comedy this way to actually affect change. He's going to actually do good with what his show is attempting to do. Nice to see you.

Hi, Dan. I want to talk about the rehearsal, but first I have to say... I also like Gilbert Arenas' podcast, and who cares what that broad's name is on Wolf Blitzer's show?

It was Pamela Brown, incidentally, on The Situation Room. I wish I had known her name. Thank you for that correction. We missed that correction. You picked one of the worst days to praise Gilbert Arenas and his content ventures. You know what? I wasn't even – I was not even aware. I was not even aware. No, we were. We were hoping. We absolutely knew that. I had no idea what I said. If you were aware, it would have been thoughtful.

Yeah, know your teammates. If you were aware and went there, that would have been wild. Yes. Crazy. If you were aware, don't admit it.

I'm still not aware of what he said, though I can guess. Good boy. Good answer. I can guess from your reaction. Let's probably not guess out loud. Nothing wrong with it. It was fine. The rehearsal finale. Well, not just the finale. I don't want to talk about just the finale, but what are your thoughts in general of the

this series and did you even when you first checked out the rehearsal because this is an acquired taste you got to give it some time if you're not just going to believe the word of mouth you're going to have to give the stuff a minute in order to sort of absorb what he's trying to do yeah so when I first saw

the first episode of season two i was like oh i don't know if i'm gonna like this because he was reenacting commercial airline crashes which is something that obviously myself and i feel like every person is terrified of and so i was like maybe this isn't the best show to watch if i'm like a little squeamish around flying but then i sort of forced myself to keep watching and then by the episode that mike was talking about with the paramount germany uh recreation i was laughing so hard at

his entire bit with Paramount Germany and one of his Nathan For You episodes getting censored from Paramount Plus. And then there was the next episode, which was even more insane, where he recreated the life of Sully, the famous airline pilot portrayed by Tom Hanks

in the movie Sully who landed a plane on the Hudson, the miracle on the Hudson, not to be confused with the miracle on the Mojave, which happened in the finale. But I was just like, I could not believe what I was watching. And then obviously it's not spoiler Wednesday, but the show came out over a week and a half ago now, and you already played the CNN clip. So I feel like I can spoil this. In the finale, you find out that he's actually been training to be a pilot for the last two years. And they show him all of a sudden he's in a plane flying around California and

And he wants to fly a 737. He starts going to scrapyards looking for abandoned 737s to fly passengers on a plane so he can act out this like pilot communication bit that he's been talking about through the season. And I don't know, it just like was one of those television shows.

television series that after I watched it, I was so blown away by the extent to which he went to complete the payoff of this bit. 'Cause you're like, the whole time you're like, why does he care about this? Like, apparently he's very interested in like airline crashes, whatever. But then by the end, you're like,

So what this whole thing was a setup to find out that he actually flew a plane in the finale of this show. Well, not just flew a plane, but then like in the credits, he's like, oh, and by the way, I also took a part time job where I transport planes in South America from one country to another. It's like, wait, why are you still doing this?

Yes, I read an interview with him and an aviation reporter where the guy was like, so do you still transport 737s? And he was like, yeah, occasionally they'll text me and be like, can you be in China on this day? We need to get this plane across the ocean. And he'll go and it's him and one other person. It's an empty plane and like transport these huge 737s. Do they talk? Absolutely bonkers. Do they talk, him and his co-pilot?

They show clips of him talking in the cockpit. So I think he is practicing what he preaches. Again, though, I want you to imagine the flight that Tom Hanks was on that crashed in Castaway. Nathan Fielder was just in his spare time, not for fun because it's interesting to him and not because of content, was just taking planes that needed to get over to Brazil.

and flying with one other person in the middle of the night through dark rainforests just to land somewhere at 2 a.m., get off, stay in the hotel, and then get back because that flight needed moving. It's just insane what he was doing.

so much time commitment too I was talking to one of my friends who's trying to become a pilot this past weekend and he's flown for the last five or six years on top of you know doing another job and he still has over a thousand hours he needs to complete before he's eligible to be hired by a commercial airline it's just a massive time commitment and obviously um when you're learning and when you eventually get to fly on your own the stakes are enormous like there are so

people on the on the rehearsal subreddit that i was reading that were like well on the bright side like when the finale aired at least we all knew he survived because we probably would have heard about it if he had randomly like died in a plane crash in the last two years there would have been a news story about it so i guess like we kind of knew the ending would be a happy one but still it's just absolutely crazy there was also um

some people, you can like research the FAA database, it's public of like who's registered to fly, I guess. And so fans of his had found that there was a pilot named Nathan Fielder who had gotten his license at some point. So there was some hints along the way that like,

people were sort of onto this whole scheme, but I don't think anyone really expected the payoff to be what it was. And on top of that, like, it's really not like a spoiler because the funny parts of the show are just the comedic bits, not necessarily like the narrative of the season. So if you can get from

Albert Einstein wet dreams to the miracle over the Mojave on CNN. Like there's so many laughs in between there, you can't really spoil any of it. Stugatz, I don't know if you remember this and you guys will have to tell me what the fallout was from this because there were all sorts of things that would happen at ESPN where we'd get in trouble, but I wouldn't quite learn how much trouble we were in.

But I remember saying one time after Stan Van Gundy, they were trying to change their halftime show again and they were about to hire Stan Van Gundy and it appeared that David Stern stepped in and didn't allow ESPN to do it. And Stan Van Gundy on ESPN's air was ripping ESPN saying you have to have no guts whatsoever to pay someone else hundreds of millions of dollars and then let them make all your decisions for you.

And I said at the time that that's as close as I will ever come to being Jason Statham walking away in slow motion from an explosion, seeing on ESPN someone criticize ESPN. She brought up what Nathan Fielder did to Paramount. When I think of people who criticize their employers on their employer's air, I think of David Letterman. I think of John Oliver.

I think of Nathan Fielder. Howard Stern. Can you give me some other examples of people that you think of when you think of somebody going after their employer on their employer's air? Letterman is the one that I think of it most on because he would do it more than anybody in a way that was just super confusing to me in the 80s and 90s. John Oliver does it now. Is there anyone else who routinely goes after their employer, has the

has the power, the courage, and the employment strength to criticize their employer on their employer's air. Is Sampson my employer? Pat McAfee? Oh, McAfee's a good one. Yes. Yeah, McAfee. I can't think of a single woman who would ever do that, by the way, because they're too chicken shit. I am surprised

I'm surprised that HBO's lawyers were cool with all of that because I have friends that have worked on HBO shows and everything that they air obviously has to go through lawyer scrutiny. And so the fact that they were just like, yeah, this is fine. You can slander one of our competitors. And it's a satire, obviously. I think you can get away with a lot under the guise of comedy. But it just surprised me. That and the fact that there were 150 passengers flown in the Miracle over the Mojave is just like, wow, they

get away with a lot with those lawyers i went on paramount plus the next day because i'm like oh surely like with this backlash like that episode will reappear and it still wasn't there i think that they're just like sticking firm and they're not undoing that decision and then i went and i saw like on max it was there so like there's a lot you could see the episode on any of the other streaming services just not on paramount can we play for uh for jessica i don't know did you see the entire cnn interview let's play nathan fielder talking

about the miracle over the Mojave with Wolf Blitzer and Pamela Brown. That's what, you know, I was hoping to demonstrate with the miracle over the Mojave, which is the flight that I flew in the show to show communication between pilots that, you know,

people can see that two pilots trying their best to communicate it's still a struggle and fortunately in that flight nothing else critical happened so I think when the communication lines up with a real potential emergency that's when it could make all the difference and so you know fortunately I landed the plane safely and saved 150 lives that day and so I think

The hope is that the FAA will look at this stuff and the miracle over the Mojave and be like, yeah.

Dude right next to him, just frozen. Just visually funny. No, he's been dragging that guy all over the country. Everywhere. That guy is deadpan, but he's the real expert here, right? Yes. He's giving him real voice, real power. He's getting him heard. It really is genius to watch the platform used this way. I can't believe he's making all of this entertaining. It's hard to make this entertaining. That's the most ambitious part about all of this, what he's tackling individually, individually.

There are so many different ambitious parts of this, getting greenlit without providing proof of what he was going to talk about, tackling this communication issue. But for me, I think the most audacious part about all of it is let me try to make all this funny.

which is really ambitious, and the fact that he nails it, too, is terrific. I have a bit of a left turn here on something I want to talk about with Jess, and I'm curious, are you familiar with what's going on right now with the WTA and the French Open and the matches being scheduled? There's a controversy because...

for those in the audience that aren't aware of it since 2021 there have been 51 night sessions in uh in the french open at roland garros and only four of those night sessions have featured women prominently in these night sessions in fact last year featured zero women in the night sessions and this is obviously a huge spotlight to to help the wta get superstars going amelie maresmo is the tournament director and she leans on

the scheduling practices protecting the players health there have been some questions as to whether or not that's fair to the competitors if these matches go late in the night but there is a really unfair imbalance i mean we're not even talking about equality here we're talking about just the occasional spotlight to showcase your superstars that they are not getting it's a tricky spot for amelie maresmo and i'm curious just where you side on this uh

I probably side where you would expect. Also, the excuse is always like, well, the men's matches are longer and it's hard to know when they're going to end sometimes if you have a match scheduled after that. It seems like the other majors, though, Mike, have figured it out. The U.S. Open is able to schedule night matches for the women, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, this is a Roland Garros problem.

Right. And also, like the reason the women play fewer sets in the majors is because of, you know, kind of frivolous, stupid reasons, too. It's not like anyone's asking for for for less tennis. But I don't know. Yeah, it's it's I mean, figure it out. It's stupid. But the only reason I guess the only ways that these things change is more and more pressure being put on these institutions to just, you know, do what is not only the popular thing, but the right

but the right thing. You also need star power, but you work against your own interests because you can't develop the star power if they're not getting these showcases to occasionally do it. There's tons of star power in the women's semifinals right now. Coco Gauff, obviously, is the last American who's left on either the men's or the women's side. Sabalenka and Sviatek is a huge match. I mean, Sabalenka is just an absolute...

Just, she's so good. She's so strong. They're having a hell of a match right now. Yes. A hell of a match. Well, when the segment ends, I can go watch it. But anyways, yeah, it's... Right now, I'm just watching Willow lay on her back behind my set up. Did she miss us? Did she miss us? I heard there was another dog in the studio last week. What happened with that? It's Ethan's dog. Yeah. Bye.

You never want to be the dog after the dog. There are certain words, certain phrases that get Stugatz to stir. There aren't many of them. Roland Garros. Ah, the red clay. Is something that I see a fire go off in my partner that springs to life whenever it is Roland Garros. It's not even the French Open. It's just Roland Garros does something to him.

It's perfect. And we have such a great men's semifinal and women's semifinal. Like the matches, the competitors left at the French Open. I got to tell you something. I mock the French Open all the time because it seems like a different major. In fact, I have said that it shouldn't be a major. But when you have chalk get through to the semifinals at Roland Garros or the Red Clay, you have yourself a tournament, Dan. That's what we have.

We have Alcaraz. We have Djokovic. We have Sinner. I mean, what a final we're going to have both on the men's side and the women's side. It's going to be fantastic. A great weekend of tennis. I love Roland Garros. If you had to rank these shows, you've got to rank these from bottom to top, Jessica. I'm going to give you four shows here that most of us are watching. The rehearsal, the studio.

Hacks and Gemstones. If you have to rank those four, three, two, one, how would you rank those? - That's difficult because Gemstones just ended. The series finale came out like a month ago. I love, love, love Gemstones. I think they, Danny McBride is so funny and man, just, it's such a funny show. They're satirizing, you know, Christian mega churches in the South.

So it's sort of right up my alley a little bit. I love Gemstones. Hacks, I really, really like, but I didn't really love the season finale of the last season that just finished a few nights ago. I thought it was just ended on a strange note. I thought the episode before would have probably been a better finale. The studio is great. Very, very good show by Seth Rogen. And again, I'm like, man, I think Seth Rogen's so funny.

No wonder when I was a child, Pineapple Express was my favorite movie because it's just Seth Rogen and Danny McBride. Let's rank them. Are you going to rank these things or what? I'm trying. Acceptance speech for every show. I know what she's doing. She's thinking about it. I think you're doing great, Jess. You think you're nominated for a Peabody. Just keep going along. I think you're doing a really great job. This is an acceptance speech. I appreciate you, Jess. No, I appreciate having details. Thank you for the details.

I'll put Gemstones 1, Rehearsal 2. Start with 4. 4, 3, 2, 1. Is 1 the new 4? Thank you, Sal Saperstein. I don't even know what she did there. Give me a fifth show and I'll make it a top 5 list. Good idea. Love Island. Okay, 5, Love Island. Love Island.

I'll say four hacks. Mike Schur is going to be on with us in a moment. We'll give him all your criticisms. I love Mike Schur. Well, can I stay on for Mike Schur? I like him. Does he have anything to say about the Women's College World Series? He's hot on that. Number three. The studio. Number two. Rehearsal. Just end it. Gemstones is number one. I love Gemstones. The Women's College World Series, you were saying?

It has been electric. I'm not the biggest softball fan in the world and I barely understand the rules. It's not a sport that I ever played, but I've been watching over the last few weeks and it's been so good. Oklahoma, who's like the, you know, one of the biggest sports dynasties in the world, Oklahoma softball, they lost to Texas Tech in the semifinal. And now Texas Tech's playing Texas for the national championship. And Texas Tech, if you haven't been paying attention, that's okay. They have

a player who transferred from Stanford, Nyjah Kennedy, who got over a million dollars to transfer to Texas Tech. It is a huge NIL deal. Texas Tech, if you're paying attention to the college football space, you probably know this, but they have a pretty big time NIL collective there now. They have a big football transfer class coming. I'm sure Mike's all over it. But soft

ball, they've never won a softball national championship either as Texas. So whoever wins the series is going to be, it's going to be the first for that. But obviously they, they knocked off the giants in Oklahoma. So now they are playing against Texas. The first game was Wednesday night, Texas one off of a hit off of an intentional walk. Absolutely crazy scene. It was just like, just, I guess a badly executed intentional walk, but

Crazy win for Texas, the best of three series, so it may go to three games if Texas Tech can win the next game, but it's been so much fun. The game in which Texas Tech beat Oklahoma was also electric. Oklahoma scored a tying two runs off a hit to tie it late in the seventh, and Texas Tech came back on a walk-off run and got it, and it was just so much fun.

Dan, it's been so good. And this is the time of year where we've got WNBA, we've got softball, and then like every seven days we have an NBA finals game. So there's just tons of time for sports right now. And I am loving it. We all think we know where our money's going until you actually look for it. And it happened to me between food delivery, TV rings for the baby, random Amazon orders, life and things add up fast. That's where Monarch Money comes in. It's like having my own personal CEO, but one that doesn't judge me for ordering sushi four nights in a row.

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Don Levitard. Mr. Mr. Shirt, if I may say for a second. Miami, they were simulating the snap count the entire game, and they were clapping at the line of scrimmage. And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks on Mrs. Met in my face, Mike Shirt. All right? So that's one thing. Stoogatz. They're a bunch of cheaters, Dan. And you know who should be cheating? Mrs. Met on Mr. Met. And he can watch if he wants. This is the Don Levitard Show with the Stoogatz.

Dan, you know what Roland Garros is all about? It's about Lorenzo Mussetti. That's what it's all about. A guy who will never make a semifinal in any other major, but on the red clay at Roland Garros, boom, there he is, taking on Alcaraz. Lately, over the last few months, he cometh. Yes, yes. It also helps. That dude, hot as shit. Hotty. Hot. Holy cow. Oh.

Can you please look up for me, Jeremy? I'm having a hard time remembering who the player was in baseball who got a hit on what was intended as an intentional walk. Miguel Cabrera. Wasn't it against the Marlins? No, it was with the Marlins. Against the Orioles, right up the middle. Oh, with the Marlins.

Was he the only one to do it? That I can remember. I think Vlad may have swung at one. I think Vlad Guerrero was the player. Or did he hit one that bounced? No, he hit a ball that bounced. He hit a double on a pitch that bounced. That's crazy. Yes, yes. Don't make him like that anymore, do they? A crazy bad ball hitter. But I think you might have that right on Cabrera, though. It might not be Miguel Cabrera.

No, absolutely. It was a thousand percent. It most definitely was. That's a core memory. X-ray and Xander Ramirez scored. You know where you were. Core memory, Miguel Cabrera swinging at a pitch out.

I don't remember where I was. You don't? You just claimed it? You claim that you remember it, though. Musetti was in the Wimbledon final last year. I also remember his game-winning home run against the Rays in the Bermuda Triangle. Miguel Cabrera was awesome. They also don't make them like that anymore. In the documentary I was talking about...

implosion, they said that more people get to the top of Everest in a day than get to see the Titanic where it is. But of course, people, more people get to the top of Mount Everest a day. They're now cheating in order to get to the top of Mount Everest in a day.

Yes, I don't know if anyone else saw this article that was in the New York Times. I want to say a week ago, but it was a story about these mountaineers who used a Z I think xenon gas to acclimate to the altitude so that they could climb up Mount Everest faster.

And it raises obviously all sorts of medical concerns, also ethical concerns. Like, is it better to be on the mountain less? Is it is that safer? Is it safer to go at your own pace without any sort of like performance enhancing drugs? And it's also not a regulated sport, right? So it's not like there's any sort of like sport governing body that's like, hey, you can't do that. Like this is people, you know, spending their money in their free time to do something where it normally takes multiple weeks because you have to go to base camp

and hang out for a while before you can climb up the mountain. And it's extremely dangerous, even though there's obviously guides who take you up there and, you know, you need their help, basically, because it's so treacherous. But it just blew my mind that this is a thing that someone thought of, let alone that people are actually doing. And it's becoming one of those things where it's like, you know, should it be hard to

Mount Everest, should that be something that we can just do conveniently? Or is this something that is only important and meaningful and profound because it's difficult? And I don't know, I had a lot of questions after reading this article. I thought it was crazy. - 100%, it should be difficult. It's only a cool thing because of how difficult it is, Jess. You made a great point. I don't understand why anybody would wanna do this with performance-enhancing drugs. - Watered down, not even impressive anymore. - Yeah, honestly. - You know what's impressive? Lorde dropped pure heroin at age 16.

That's impressive. Drew Barrymore, I think, was addicted to blow at 12. That is impressive. Pure Heroin was the name of an album. It was. I think if you're climbing Mount Everest, you have to do it clean. Do you not? You have to make the climb, yes. What is the point? From the bottom to the top. Why don't you just take a hot air balloon half of the way up?

Was it Rosie Ruiz who took like a train for 23 miles of the Boston Marathon? - Well, apparently she cut through the course, but she may not have actually known she cut through the course until after she won. There's all sorts of like retconning of like what actually happened with her. It's like, did she win? And then she was like, "Uh-oh, oh shit."

Or did she do it on purpose? Was it like, you know, mischievous? I'm not sure, Dan. But yeah, it does seem like one of those things. I don't know. You can ask David Sampson, I guess. Your boss, Duga. That's what he thinks because he climbed a mountain once or something and ran a marathon or something. I don't know what he does, but he talks about it. I zone out. I won't ask him. Drew Barrymore, by the way, she began drinking at the age of nine, smoking marijuana at 10, used cocaine by the age of 12, wasn't addicted, though, until she was 13. Okay.

Thank you. That's a fine. That's terrible. Good correction. Her being alive, period, is more impressive than any of these people climbing Mount Everest with the xenon gas.

just simply being alive that's a lot before the age of 13 man no it's really sad um it's one of those things though where it's like yeah I guess you don't know the side effects of like using this gas to go up the mountain but like do you want to find out because you could also just not climb the mountain or just take an extra week off of work and do it the regular way I don't know it seems kind of scary it's why I didn't do it so I mean same yeah Stan Kroenke is fun to say

It is. Stan Kroenke is fun to say. Favorite hockey player name, Jess? Dreisaitl. Really? That was Dan's whole gambit. Not a lot of German hockey players. No, Rejo Ruzelainen. Can I admit something super embarrassing that happened to me last night during the Panthers game? Go for it. First of all, I watched the Panthers game. I have not watched a Panthers game my whole life. That was the first one. Well, don't do that again. So...

It was the first quarter. Period. Sorry, oh my God. That was, wow. It's all right. See, it's been a while. How could she not know that? It doesn't work when you do it. I was trying to help. I know. David hit one off

the post and then I think the Panthers had a goal but they were reviewing it to see if there was interference whatever so I'm just kind of reading my book while the game's on and then 10 minutes later McDavid hits one off the post and then the Panthers score but they're reviewing it to see if it actually was interference or not and then I realized that my TV I don't know if this has ever happened to you guys on YouTube TV it rewound for some reason so you're like wow this play very similar I'm like this has been a really long period and I can't

I can't believe this just happened again. And then I went forward to real time and the Panthers were winning 2-1. So I was like, oh, well, they're probably gonna win this game. So I went to bed. - He hit the same spot on the post. - I hate the Apple controller. - It's terrible.

must have sat on it maybe i sat on it maybe willow sat on it put it on the poll please at levitard show do you hate the apple controller uh and also play that again it's a bit of an upset for me to be fine on the last name and not the first name ray joe roots elanin how do you spell ray joe just off the top of your head do you guys know how to spell this is the the ray joe roots elanin r-a-j-o

I don't think that's it. That does feel right. Ray Joe. I don't think that's it. R-A-Y-J-O? No. No? I don't think so. I'm going to guess R-E-I-J-O, but that's why I struggled with it because I stumbled past it. Not the funniest mistake I made today, though. The true heroin mistake. Yeah, pure heroin. Yeah, that's just an album name. And heroin like hero, not the drug. Yeah, bad mistake by me.

And then you were like Tommy Topper with, well, Drew Barrymore was addicted to coke at 13. I'm like...

Not really an artistic achievement, the likes of Lorde's Pure Heroin. I thought you were accusing Lorde of being on Pure Heroin. That's what I thought. R-E-I-J-O. Ah, thank you. Can you give us an update, please, on Lehman and how he's doing with that Knicks loss and how all of that has gone the last couple of days for you being, you know, next to a Knicks fan who is kind of broken?

Yeah, he was like, this is like if Notre Dame lost the national championship two years in a row to USC. And I was like, you're right. Like, I would probably walk into the river and never return if that were the case. The Tibbs thing is really interesting. I know you guys have covered it a lot, and I'm sure Samora will be on later to talk about it more. But if this is just James Dolan meddling, then that's not great. But if there's a plan...

To actually make a better hire or someone that's going to not make some of the Tibbs mistakes, someone that's going to dabble with different lineups during the regular season. Gasp. It's not the worst thing, but I don't know. It's just...

We'll see, I guess. It's kind of a bad analysis, but... I don't see, and yeah, I don't know and we'll see is not the best analysis. We haven't gotten from Stugatz any thoughts on this. I don't know how he feels about Tibbs no longer being his coach. I think when you fire Tibbs and you fire him that quickly after taking a team to a place they haven't

been to in 25 years, they already know who the replacement's going to be. I think World Wide West and Leon Rose, who's running that organization, they're trying to win now. They traded five first-round picks away from Mikael Bridges last year, and so they're trying to win now, and they think Tibbs is not the guy, but I think they have a guy. I don't know who that guy is. My guess would be Danny Hurley, because if you're going to make a move like this and do it that quickly, you have to have the replacement in place already. They'll go through the motions, they'll do the interviews, but I think they know who the head coach is going to be.

I thought Mad Dog was spot on with his rant. I don't know if you heard it yesterday about it, but Dan Hurley, I haven't seen that name anywhere. Didn't UConn just give him a time? I mean, they're already paying Tibbs, what, like $30 million to leave? So they have to pay...

Hurley a ton of money too. But he's flirted with the NBA, Hurley. He almost did a Lakers job. And I think he said on this show that New York, Northeast, that's where he loves to be. And the Knicks, I would assume, would be a dream job for him. If you're a Knicks fan, are you excited by that though? I don't know. No. Jerry Reinsdorf.

Oh, God. Why are you talking about him? That's not even a funny name. Just fun names to say. You think Reinsdorf is a fun name to say? Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Is Reinsdorf a fun name to say? Least fun to say? Jeff Ross.

I would say Roots Elanen. Tim Spooniebarger was a fun name to say. It is. Tim Spooniebarger is an excellent name to say. Excellent work by you, Billy. I appreciate that as a contribution. Anytime you can get in with a Marlins middle reliever. Well, if baseball players are on the board, then it's Quentin McCracken. Ooh, that's a fun one. I mean, Coco Crisp, yeah. Jared Sotolamakia. You want to give it another go? Jared Sotolamakia. My man. There we go. Not a lot of white Antons. No.

Now on the poll at Levitard show, have you ever met a white Anton at Levitard show? Uh, Ray Joe roots, a lane in Anton LeVay, Ray Joe roots, a lane in. Do you guys think that that's better than Nikolai hobby? Boolin?

I love when you lose confidence. Thray Joe Roots-A-Lanin. A little speed bump. It's a hockey name. It's tough. It's a lot of syllables. Why aren't you taking Tony Twist? Just take Tony Twist and go on. A lot of R's. Didomi's fun. Ushmanzada. Did you go Jeff Ross instead of Steve Ross? Yeah, my bad there. Oh. Oh.

So you went the Roastmaster General is what you did. That's the most boring comedian name to say. All right, fun comedian name. Come on, family. Two minutes. Stumbling. Hit it up, hit it up, up.

Get out. Get out. Thank you. Gary Owen, good guest. Not great name, though, in terms of fun to say. No, but great black comedian. We needed to ask more follow-up questions. He didn't really answer how many black comedians he was competing against when he won Best Black

black comedian in San Diego as a white comedian. He just offered up, look, man, it's not like it was in New York. He said, yeah, it's not Brooklyn, but he didn't. When I said, what were the contestants like? He's like, they were all right. And I'm like, I wasn't asking for the comedy competition. I was like, were they white or black? Who were you competing against? Your question said Gary Owen had trouble getting off the ground. He helped us anyway, despite my deficiencies. Jessica, nice seeing you. We'll talk to you again next week.

Tell Mike sure I'm sorry. I don't know how sorry you were. You made him fourth place ahead of... I just... It was just the finale. I just didn't like the last episode. I love the show, though. I love Jean Smart. She's so funny. Love Island finished fifth.

It's early, though. Two episodes in. And Hacks finished fourth in her top five list. Billy, what happened here with your beloved Love Island and the Peacock streaming problems? Well, I'm starting to suspect that there were no streaming problems. There was, ooh, we have a problematic contestant. We need to make some edits here, is I think what was actually going on there. Because it was supposed to be the series...

yesterday and it was 9 o'clock. Everyone was excited and then all of a sudden it just...

And people were still trying to wonder what was going on. It wasn't there. It wasn't there. Lo and behold, the entire day and I guess days before, you know, they announced who the contestants are and people had been tracking down the contestants and finding the skeletons in the closets of said contestants. And they had two particular contestants that they found some skeletons. And one of the contestants yesterday in the second episode just disappeared.

in the middle of the episode. They came back from a commercial break and they're just like,

"Yulisa has left the villa." And then that was the last we... And then they're just like, "It's a beautiful morning!" But it was just like a quick throw-in. And it seems as though a contestant may or may not have been removed from the competition on the second day of said show, which made me think, well, people were doing some digging around. And then this episode's release was delayed about 40 minutes, seemingly for no reason whatsoever.

I put two and two together. I'm not a detective. I'm no Matlock. But I think that maybe we were making some edits to that first episode and cleaning some things out and maybe clearing some camera time for said contestant who was going to be removed later that day. Matlock was a lawyer. Yeah.

Yeah, but part of being a lawyer is being a detective. Everybody knows that. He's right about that. Well, Matlock was also a dude when I was growing up. Didn't we talk about how no lawyer asks a question they don't know the answer to? How do you get that answers? You detect. Put it on the poll, even though it's a controversial question. Should Matlock be a dude? Yeah.

I don't know about that one. I'm just saying. Jess has only been gone for two minutes. I'm just saying. D-E-I. Separation. Starting to say things that may lead to you not being welcome on Love Island in the future, Dan. Be careful. Would you guys... Don't say the N-word. ...want to be... That's what happened. That was one of the big controversies. You'd think that'd be easy these days. Mm-hmm. What?

Like to be where? To not say it. Yeah, don't say it. Don't, don't, don't, don't say it. Didn't CNN announce the R word is back the other day? I think it's like a weird report. I think the election did. Oh. Roots of Lennon? Let's just not say offensive things. Three Joe Roots of Lennon.

Good goal. That includes agreeing with Gilbert Arenas. He didn't know. He didn't know. Right. At the time. We're just making sure now that he knows. I still don't know. I still don't know what he said. I got an idea, but I still don't know what Gilbert Arenas said about Carl Anthony Towns. I'm guessing it was either misogynistic or homosexual slur or both. We don't need to guess. The first part.

Only the first part, which was a surprise.

Gary Owen when he was on with us yesterday mentioned something about how invasive reality shows are and the idea he was like no bedroom and then first show these like the producers are really good they were in the bedroom. Would you guys want a reality show in your house? Like I would imagine that would threaten a relationship to have that kind of invasion on your privacy. To have cameras around all the time. Would you guys want to do that? How much am I getting paid?

I mean, you have to factor that in, right? You do, but I would ask if that number has to be exorbitant for you to do it because I think a lot of people would like attention enough to do it. I don't think there's a circumstance under which I would want that kind of invasion in my home.

But it's the cheapest television. It's wildly popular television. And I've got a few people in here I believe would do it for very little money. Very little money.

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