Hour 1: Ryan's Back (feat. Ros Gold-Onwude)
42:01 Share

What does Zinn give you? Not just smoke-free nicotine satisfaction, but real freedom. Freedom to do what you love and choose your rewards. With Zinn Rewards, you can redeem points for premium tech, outdoor gear, and gift cards to your favorite retailers. Find your Zinn and keep finding rewards that fit your lifestyle at zinn.com slash rewards. Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

Now more than ever, Lowe's knows you don't just want a low price. You want the lowest price. And with our lowest price guarantee, you can count on us for competitive prices on all your home improvement projects. If you find a qualifying lower price somewhere else on the same item, we'll match it. Lowe's. We help. You save. Price match applies the same item. Current price at qualifying retailers. Exclusions and terms apply. Learn how we'll match price at Lowe's.com slash lowest price guarantee.

This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast. ♪

In the frenzy and emotion of the last bit of content that we were making, was it Tony or Billy who were accused, Kugler, of creating a game that Ross didn't understand the last time? It was me. It was gold or good, and nobody knew what the hell it meant. But I think she knew how to play it. I think it was the rest of us that were confused, and it was a poor explanation. Kugler's got a new game for Ross that is going to be more difficult than that one. But Ross, I don't remember. You tell me, and thank you for joining us. You got

the game last time. It was the rest of us that weren't very good at it, correct?

We went with the flow. We just took it as it came, you know, good as gold. Yes. Okay. That means she doesn't know. No, no, no. I wanted to talk to you about the basketball transactions of the moment. Can you tell me which one you found most interesting? All of the players are signing with the same teams. It seems like minor transactions. I thought the LeBron, the statement afterward was weird, but what did you find most interesting about the last couple of days?

Well, I thought the draft was exciting. First of all, shout out to Kamon Malua out of South Sudan. Love that for African basketball players. I actually got to know him when I was in Dakar in Senegal with the NBA Africa and BAL, the basketball league they create out there.

And like this is part of the globalization of the game. The NBA has been heavily investing in Africa and there's going to be a lot more than just like one Joel Embiid or one Pascal Siakam. So that was exciting. I'm interested in the Mike Brown rumors as a head coach for the Knicks, perhaps. I got to know him really well in my time with the Warriors. And he's obviously a very accomplished coach.

i heard dawn staley got an interview i don't know if that's true or not well can we talk about that for a second what how would that go like how what are your thoughts there she would be immediately the most high profile candidate they could possibly get to replace tom thibodeau it would be the splashiest hire that you could possibly make it would win the headline or be a headline i don't know it depends on who's reading the headline

you know, Dawn's highly respected. She's a winner. She's done it on the Olympic level, on the collegiate level. She's won as a pro player. But she's, you know, I think, I

I think the Knicks made a splashy move in moving Tom Thibodeau and moving Tibbs and not really having a great plan on what the next move would be. Yeah, it's frustrating. I've been a fan of that team my entire life. I have a better headline, though. LeBron player coach with the Knicks. How about that? It's illegal against the CBA. No!

Not for LeBron. Yeah, exactly. And we'll bring Bronny over as well. We'll make it a whole thing. Bronny can coach, yes. Other than the part about it being illegal, though, Mike, I think it's a great idea for a splashy. Well, hold on a second. Wait, wait, wait, whoa. What if the Knicks hire Bronny to be their head coach, not intending to play him, knowing that then LeBron is actually the coach? That's what Roz was getting to. This is all, it's chess, not checkers, guys. Ha ha ha ha.

I'd like to bounce around the league a little bit with you. Jaron Jackson Jr. for $240 million. Thoughts there? You know what? That's the money and the going price for these players. Jaron Jackson, in some ways, hasn't been everything that we thought he was going to be, especially early in his career. But I also think the momentum in the past couple of years has

when we look at Memphis has been so staccato and up and down with disruptions from John Morant to moving coaches to just like, it's hard to see what a player actually has. So I think, and now it doesn't bang on. Like it's, I feel like it's hard to get the best out of someone when there's so much tumultuous energy within an organization. Can I get a ruling from you as an ambassador of sorts? Is Mike Ryan allowed to not like Angel Reese? Um,

- You are entitled to your opinion, full stop, but what's your reason? - Oh, this was positioned the wrong way. I personally have no problem with Angel Reese, but I'd like to dislike her if I actually had a problem with it, and it seems as though on social media and

the fan base around WNBA. There was a very protective ecosystem around WNBA players. And I would make the argument that equality means hating Angel Reese just as much as I irrationally hate Terry Rozier. People need to be okay with that. You know, I actually think like,

The freedom for fandom is really important as the WNBA grows. And like, it's okay. I think one of the things that's helped the WNBA grow is movement away from all the girls are the best in the world and the most positive and this and that you've got different reasons. You like different players. These are complex situations.

You know, like there's players that talk a lot of trash. There's players that flop. There's players that, you know, are fashionistas. And I like that, that it's evoking an emotion out of you. Here's where I push back.

Here's where I push back. When you're trying to make analysis on the quality of how good a player that she is based on those emotions and not actual facts. Right, but I want to irrationally hate people the way that I irrationally hate Terry Rozier, which is like a bad example because as we all know, Terry Rozier is garbage.

But if there were other players... No, we're not going to do that. Excuse me. Let's head to arbitration. You prove that he's not garbage. You prove that he's not garbage. I like my hand. Either way, I hate Paul Pierce. Hall of Fame player. Champion. Hate him. Think he sucks. Just a bad guy. I want to be entitled to irrationally hate players, and it seems as though in the WNBA I'm not afforded that ability. I think more than anyone, though...

Angel Reese gets hated on based off of irrational logic, alternative facts, emotions. Just I don't like her type vibe. Yeah, that's good. That's good shit right there. More than. That's more. She gets that more than any player in the W. Yeah. All right. Equality. We did it.

I'm not sure that it comes from a healthy place, though. Like, what is it that you're just like, yo, I just can't. That's what a rational is. Honestly, no one else is like saying, what about Terry Rozier's feelings on the men's side? This is what sports fans are like. I want to hate people because they wear another uniform. Are you willing to say she's a talented player? I mean, again, not the perfect case study because I don't really care one way or another when it comes to Angel Reese. But I would like that liberty.

Not the New York Liberty. I would just like the Liberty to hate her irrationally and it'd be okay with everybody. Well, this is the part I'm not okay with. It's not just that she became the fastest player in league history to reach 150 rebounds, 50 assists in a single season, fastest player to score 500 points, 500 rebounds. It's using the words hate and garbage is where I'm stopping you. That's it. Just to stop a note shy of hate and garbage. All right. Well, same energy for Terry Rozier.

Would you like to defend him with the same kind of fervor? I don't think he's garbage. You don't? He was just investigated for fixing games, and he was proved to be innocent, which means he's just that bad.

He's making $26 million. Come on. That is weird, right? Your defense is like, no, I'm just not good at basketball. Come on. And the judges are like, confirmed. He's bad at basketball. What reason has he given you to not hate him? These guys are nuts. I couldn't imagine passing up millions of dollars on contracts to fix games and blow a beautiful financial future for myself. Where is the common sense?

in the NBA with some of these players getting mixed up in this stuff. Allegedly, nothing has been proven yet. Let's have a nice little betting scandal on the W, too. Wow. Rozier has, it's actually been proven that Rozier was not fixing games. So there is, it's been disproven that he was. But it's been proven that he's garbage. Okay. Garbage player, then. No.

That was him just playing. The judge read that part, I think. That was just him bowling. Mike versus Terry Rozier in the octagon. Let's do it. Found innocent of rigging games and guilty of garbage. I know Roz is going to be on my side with this. I'm just saying that somebody who gets to the top

of a professional sport, top 1% of the 1% while fighting people for money in the world at basketball, that person shouldn't be referred to as garbage. That's all. But what if he's compared to all the other players in the league? I understand. I'm garbage at basketball compared to Terry Rozier. Right.

But Terry Rozier compared to your average NBA player. I'll step up though. Like just to say like what Angel Reese is doing in the WNBA specifically in rebounds and also in the way she's been playing in the last like five, five or six games now, um,

not comparable to Terry Rozier. We're talking about a player who will rewrite history books, who is on a path to be one of the most historic and legendary players of her position. And like she had a rough start this season, but to compare her to Terry Rozier is misleading. And if you are going to have a

rational and not fair analysis, I think you as an analyst can be judged upon that too. Are you okay with that? Being judged upon that irrational and not true or fair analysis? Totally. Yeah. I've done it for 20 years. Super cool with that. Also, again, I got no problem with Angel Reese, but now I think I do. So to Angel Reese, we got

beef now because i i knew she is not comparable to terry roger she is not comparable you're talking about one of the historic potential second year players who has the potential to be like a legendary player in the entire game of women's basketball thank you dan thank thank you for this now i'm an anti-angel reese guy what all i said is i wanted the freedom to hate on angel reese which now you have the freedom

to hate. You have the freedom of fandom. Just say she's a talented player. That's all she's saying. I don't want to anymore because now you've pushed me into irrationally hating her. You back me into a corner, the claws come out. That's what happens. But if you compliment her on the front end saying she's one of the greats of all time, she's going to be one of the greats of all time, I just don't like her. Well, if you were onboarded properly, I wouldn't have to do that. But now you back me into a corner. One of the things... Hold on a second here. Sounds like Dan did this to you. Dan did. Minor penalty. Two minutes, asshole. Ah!

We're going to play this game with rods in a second, but the thing that, the thing that's problematic here is that Angel Reese is being an avatar for whatever it is that people want to put on her. But what she is though, is a bully. She's physically a bully and not a whole lot of people can

do anything about it. And so those don't tend to be liked very much across sports. Even Shaquille O'Neal being bigger and stronger. Yeah, but we liked Oakley. Is there such a thing as somebody that is in the history of this sport? Has there been anybody who's played this physically to put up these numbers because she's being physically bullying? Angel's tenacity on the class has never been seen. And like she is just magnetic to the rebounds.

But I also think too, like she's, when she's caught in motion with the ball in her hand, she's done a nice job of assisting, finding her teammates lately. She's been a playmaking post lately. It's shown some growth. She's extended her range. She's taking more threes now.

I mean, these are things you'd notice you'd have to watch. And I think with Angel, so many people have very strong opinions and haven't maybe watched. I'm curious if Ryan, did he watch Angel Reef play this season? I'd love

to know. No, Ryan hasn't. He's sulking in the other room. Let's play this game. She's got to get out of here. Watch, listen, and subscribe to Good Follow. She's doing a spectacular job on it. She's on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. The game is Gold, Silver, Bronze.

or did not podium, or did not pro-podium. So it is wordy, but Jesus Christ. Gold, silver, bronze. Hold on. Do you know how the game works, Roz? This is how it works. It's essentially blind ranking. So you're going to get a name,

And then you have to say, is this person gold, silver, bronze, or not podium? But you're not going to know who's coming next. And there are four. There are four in each category, and you're only going to pick three. Are you ready? So I'm going to give you four in each category. No, no, no. You read one at a time, and then she says where that person goes. Gold, silver, bronze, or not podium.

That's fine. So start with that top name and let her rank that name. There's only going to be four. Gold, silver, bronze. And there's music, not podium. Okay, give me the music. Well, no, you have to say it first and then the music. Gold, silver, bronze or did not podium. You don't worry about the music, Ross. I got that. Wait.

So the four, so there's only four categories that each one can be won. No, there's four slots. Yeah, yeah. You don't know what's coming. You just have to say gold, silver, or bronze, and I'm telling you in advance, I'm going to give you four choices and you're going to only be able to get three who medal. Well, one's not going to podium. There's only four answers. I only have

- Four things I can say, I got it. - Be careful, it's a dangerous game. - Really easy though. - Really easy to understand. - Okay. - And at the end of that, you're gonna spar with someone. - Googler. - Unless they leave. - Okay, and then it's a fight to the end. - She's gotta go. She has to go. - We're ready. - Play the music. - The music is after the choice. It's thinking music. - Right. - I'll just play it. - What's the prize? - No prizes. - Okay.

The prize is my laughter at the end. All right. Gold. Oh, Ryan's back. Don't say gold or anything. Just give a name and let her put him on the podium. That's it. She's got to go. Hello, Ryan. Welcome back. Real shame. Ryan.

Ryan, have you watched Angel Reese play a game this season, this WNBA season? He's going to Chicago this weekend just to see her. Tell the truth. Have you watched a WNBA game of Angel Reese this season? Uh-oh. No. That's mine. Off the podium. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will happily admit that I don't watch the W. I do watch women's college basketball. I don't have the fan width to watch the W. I don't really like it. And in America, it's a safe space. That's a strong opinion. How can you have such a strong opinion?

That's not fair. Ross, that's what sports radio is all about. Irrational. Yes. He wants the ability to hate her for no reason like he hates men for no reason. Exactly. Freedom to hate. Mm-hmm.

This is crazy. It is. Okay, let's play the game. Let's play the game. Roz has to go. Ryan did not podium. That's my first answer. Ryan did not podium. Goal! Please stay! Nafisa Collier, gold, silver, or bronze? We're not podium. Gold. Kaitlyn Clark? Bronze. Asia Wilson? Silver. Angel Reese?

I guess she didn't podium. You don't like her either. Apologize to Ryan. Apologize to Ryan. This was a setup. This was a setup from the start. This was a setup.

It was. It was a total setup. It was a setup. You and I won. You and me, both set up. We framed her. Now can Ryan and I get in a boxing match and get an invite to the building? That's not equality. Roz, thank you. Good seeing you. Good follow. Follow, listen, and subscribe. Thank you. We appreciate your time. Long live Angel Reese.

That is correct. You just kept her off the podium. I am truly a courageous voice in media. Nobody out there doing what I'm doing. Glad we got to that game. There is no one else saying, WNBA? Nah, I'm good. Stayed up all night for that game. I've seen so many people consult ChatGPT on WTakes. Don't think I don't see ya.

You know, guys, it feels pretty good when you accomplish something you've dreamt of for a long time. I've been feeling really, really lucky to not just make it to 30, but to be doing all of the things I ever wanted to do, including working here on the Dan Labattard Show with Stu Gatz. And when you think about it, the origins of this show were once just a dream for them. That dream turned into the show and business that you're listening to today. And starting your own business is a dream that lots of us share, but too many of us just let it remain a dream.

Don't hold yourself back thinking, what if I don't have the skills or what if I can't do it alone? Those what ifs turn into why nots with Shopify by your side.

Shopify's award-winning 24-7 support is always awesome.

There. Turn your big business idea into with Shopify on your side. Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com slash batard. Go to shopify.com slash batard. Shopify.com slash batard.

Jeremy, you know something about me, right? You know when I'm grilling outside and it's summertime, you know how I supplement my summertime? Of course I do. I make a Miller Time. Of course. That beautiful white can. Oh, when it's so hot outside, I just put it right to my forehead, right there, and I just roll it sometimes right on the forehead, cool my body down, and then I crack it open and...

instant relief and then that first sip brother does that first sip that is a top five sequence of events that you can possibly go through i'm just serenity now when i just imagine that first sip of miller life just thinking about it's making me happy dude the sun is out it's nice you have your friends showing up you got your family there you just had your first sip of miller light and you know what you're happy

You're blissful. You're fulfilled. I've been stocking my cooler with Miller Lite for years and for good reason. It's brewed for taste. Only 96 calories and 3.2 grams of carbs. This year, Miller Lite turns 50.

There's five decades of cookouts, laughs, and ice cold moments that never miss. It's the original light beer, and it's still my go-to. Miller Lite, great taste, 96 calories. Go to millerlite.com slash dan to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

This show is sponsored by GameTime, the official ticketing partner of The Dan Levitard Show with Stu Gatz. And folks, let's be real. Buying tickets for concerts or games is usually a pain. You hop online early, you wait in some never-ending virtual queue, which I truly can't stand. And by the time you get through it, prices are sky high or tickets are sold out.

are gone. It's the worst. That's why I use GameTime. Look, you guys know me. I'm a white guy who likes to project like he thinks he's smarter than other people, which means Vampire Weekend is one of my favorite bands. And when Vampire Weekend was coming to town just a couple of weeks ago, I was looking for tickets. And not only did I find amazing seats on GameTime, but I actually saved a ton of money. GameTime has last minute deals that let you save up to 60% off for concerts, comedy, theater, sports, you name it. And soccer fans, how about you listen up?

GameTime's offering 10% off exclusive zone deals for FIFA World Cup matchups. Big matches, great sections, and even better prices. You can see the view from your seat before you buy. Checkout takes just two taps. There are no surprise fees. What you see is what you pay for. So take the

What do I got here? I got a Magnum condom.

We won't get that out. That's shocking. Stugatz. Here's a picture of Christopher when he was like three years old. Right next to the condom? Yeah. That's a subtle reminder. Never forget. This is the Don Levitas show with the Stugatz.

The all-time handles tier. I want to get to it because we promised it earlier. And I can't believe that we have a list that is in the Stugatz wheelhouse that has taken us two hours, two segments, two and a half hours to get to. Let's get to these tiers on all-time handles. When I say Greg Cody, this is a good one for you, Greg. You doing okay? Sure.

All-time handles. Do you know what we're talking about? Well, handle has several definitions. Do you know which one we're talking about? No. Cabinetry. Nicknames, I assume you mean? No. A good guess, but we're talking about basketball handles. Somebody who is a maestro at dribbling. Ability to dribble. Who do you think of? Everybody in the NBA. Who's not a good dribbler? Manu Bull. Manu Bull.

I'm always trying to say Kalen Clark. Kalen Brown, left-handed. Why doesn't Greg come up with his top five nicknames while Stugatz does his top five handles? That's fine. Greg, you do top five handles the way that you were going to do it, and then we're going to go to the all-time handles tiers list here from Fastbreak Hoops.

You've got Allen Iverson and Kyrie Irving on the top tier. That one sort of goes without saying, right? Kyrie Irving, I would say that universally people would put Kyrie Irving above Allen Iverson. Yeah, he's number one as far as handles league-wide. You're giving Allen Iverson more credit than I'm giving him by putting him on the same class as Kyrie Irving. Kyrie Irving is the best dribbler I have ever seen, has the best ball control I have ever seen. But Steph Curry...

Curry is pretty good with a basketball, too, in terms of just handles. I mean, I'm with Mike. The disrespect to Pistol Pete. This is bullshit. This is bullshit. See, Tier 3, there is one person there that did it with their hand unhooked.

over the ball. I know because when I went to Westwood Christian, I was instructed by Pistol Pete himself via VHS. And he told me how to play the game the right way. Everybody else carries. Let me get to the rest of this. Jamal Crawford, there's the second tier, okay? And it's Isaiah Thomas, Steph Curry, and Jamal Crawford. Tony, you don't like that. Zeke, I feel like we could push Zeke down a little bit. Get him out of there.

I don't think a whole lot of people would object if I put Jason Williams where Zeke is, even though Zeke was a better basketball player by leaps and bounds. I don't think... The third tier here of Chris Paul...

This is a mean tier right here. I mean, James Harden carries like a son of a gun. Congratulations on being able to dribble. Yeah, James Harden, get him out of there. Remove him entirely. The rest of that is good. The third tier is Jason Williams, Tim Hardaway, Pistol Pete, James Harden, and Chris Paul. It's a good tier.

It is. I feel like Hardaway should be tier two, though. Maybe Jason Williams as well. I'm shocked. Tier four, I guess they're accounting for size. Well, Steve Nash has to be in the top three tiers. He wasn't super flashy with it, though. He just had a great handle. But when Dan puts it that way, I mean, Steve Nash and Kevin Durant occupying the same tier. KD. KD. I mean, you could swipe him easy. He's just too big. You've got Marbury and Francis on that fourth tier. I like it.

Stevie franchise. All right. And they just don't want to disrespect the Kobe stands and Jordan stands with tier five. The thing that I notice on these top four tiers is because these people are of a similar size, how ridiculous it is that Kevin Durant at his size is in these four tiers when all of these people are small. Like every last one of them has to...

If you think of that sport as survival of the fittest, like a literal thing, survival of the fittest, the smaller people have to develop advantages that make up for their lack of size and handles. Everyone here is at least under 6'4". Everyone, I'm looking at this list. Look, is there anyone? Was Jamal Crawford 6'5"? I don't think Kevin Durant's a better... Jay Crosser is like 6'5". Do you think Durant has better handles than LeBron? I don't know.

I don't. LeBron doesn't have that move. He's not on here. LeBron's not in any of the five tiers. It's ridiculous to have to rant over LeBron in this discussion. Is that Havlicek? Hondo. Hondo. Is it? I can't see because it's kind of far away. Is it Havlicek? You've got to have your own tier if you dribbled with your hand over the ball. Everybody else is just carrying. Yeah. Bunch of travelers. They're cheating. Have you tried to play basketball the way that the modern day players do? It's much

Much easier. Much easier. If you're allowed to put your hand over the ball, it's way easier. It's an easier game now. Yeah. I love AI as much as any. I was a 90s kid. Love Allen Iverson. Carried a lot. Hmm.

- Is Magic not on there? - Imagine Magic not being on there. - I don't see him on there. - We can't be given aggregate sites like this, engagement bait sites like this, the time of day. Every time I see Big Game Boomer, oh really Big Game Boomer, you went to San Jose State's tailgate, did ya? And it just gets circulated and gets a million likes, it's BS.

Can you please go over there and get the gear head? I need to... Yes, Greg is struggling. He's coughing. He's sneezing. He's been running his nose. There have been tissues all over the floor here. Is everything okay? You seem a little bit tired. You seem a little out of sorts. I'm a little under the weather. I pressed the cough button, though, so I don't know if that's... But are you okay? Is everything okay? No, I'm fine. I'm also a little worried about the timing of this bit. It's niche, to say the least, and I've already...

been positioned as a sexist. Just very recently. I didn't position you that way. Well, you fought for the ability to be a sexist. That's my... Yeah, well, I guess... You fought for the ability to hate. And you won. Congrats, you were a sexist. See, the thing is, I didn't see gender. To me, I'm the most forward-thinking...

gender equality guy that there is. Really? Are you that? The most? The way that Greg is the opposite of prude? Like, you're the most gender equality person there is. I truly don't know what she was talking about. Like, espousing the virtues of Angel's game. That's cool. I want to hate them.

Let me hate them. - Irrationally. - I said it on the, from the jump. - She missed the point, yeah. - I wanna be able to hate somebody irrationally. On social media, I wanna be toxic. This is something that I'm afforded when it comes to men. But when it comes to women, it seems to be an issue.

Yes. And probably should continue to be an issue for as long as I don't think America's got work to do. Yeah. You're perpetrating the separation, Dan, is what you're doing. Yes. You position me as a sexist when all I want is equality. No, I did not. I said, I asked Roz if you had permission to hate Angel Reese. That's what I said. I didn't position you as a sexist. And it was denied, but I don't actually hate Angel Reese, but now I do because of

You guys are setting this up all wrong. Mike just wants to be able to hate a woman for no reason at all. Thank you. As opposed to for being a woman. I mean, look, I don't like your tone. Whatever his reason is, it's his reason, not mine. They're his reasons, Dano. Exactly right. Five reasons. I don't know. Brett Marchand is a... Do I just hate French Canadians now? That's my thing? Jeez.

I don't know. Is it? Do you want it to be your thing? Yes, I like the option. Can you hate Canadians, Dan, for no reason other than being French-Canadian? I don't know if you... I feel like the French are... Is that fine? I feel like that's the last place that everyone's allowed to hate. I thought... The French, yes. Let me be a free thinker. What?

Like half this country wake up one day, decide I am free to hate Canada finally. Thank God. Nope. I believe that we're only there with France. I don't believe that we're there for, and it's just, and with France, France also gets this. It's just look at you. It's your face. Well, we get that too. Have you ever gone over there as a tourist? No, no. Well, we get that all over the world. Yeah. Of course. But,

I'm saying that the French are the last place where I could be at a microphone and say some form of, yeah, don't like the French. And everyone understands. And everyone's like, that's still allowed today. We might get that. We're with you, Dano. Sounds like America's sponsored by the haters. Am I right, Tony? Atta boy. Finally. There you go. Long play coming, by the way. So let me ask you guys a question. If...

you know, the president gets his way and Canada becomes a 51st state, then are you just hating yourself? No, because then we just count electoral votes and we realize he's just guaranteed liberal control of the country forever. How do you feel about putting on that hat with that mustache, that Angel Reese take, and your general love of NASCAR and making it MAGA Mike Mondays? Whoa! What are you doing there? What are you doing? You said that hat. It was also confusing. No. No?

Oh, he said no. Jason, get to work on that. Yeah, Jason just kind of does whatever he wants. No, we're not. Red Hat Mondays, it sounds like. We're not doing that one. Was Bob Cousy on the list? Kyle Larson. Is that Cousy? Well, there was a white Celtic in there, but I couldn't see with my glasses. It was so far away. I didn't know whether it was Hondo or Cousy. I didn't know who it was. On the second tier, the fourth tier, I see he's next to Nash. I don't know who that fourth guy is either. Is that Kemba Walker?

Who's that fourth guy? Oh, is that Dame? That does look like Kemba. Is that Steve Francis? Yes, Francis and Marbury are on the fourth tier with Durant. Is that Rondo down there? Yeah, Rondo and John Wall. Yeah, that's Kemba. Kemba making the fourth tier. KD better handles than Derrick Rose. That's Kemba better handles than Michael Jordan and Kobe.

And Dame and Derrick Rose. Who's the white guy? And Rondo. Where are the whites? Steve Nash. Cody, we need your help here on who's the second Celtic. This is your age. Right next to Steve Nash, this is your age. How do you not know who this is? This is absolutely your wheelhouse. I believe that is a young Bob Cousy. Yeah, I believe Greg is right. Yes.

A script for NASCAR? That's Bob Cousy. I think Greg also has a top five list of nicknames, right? Yes, top five handles from Greg Cody. I only have one. Okay, good work by you today. He's under the weather. I asked you to prepare a top five list. You stared, you looked around, you didn't do anything, and then you said, I've got one. You know what? Don't even want it. Hold on, game show music. We're going to have it.

I'm not even going to show you. Gold, silver, bronze did make the podium. Very long-winded answer. I spent all night on this. Go ahead, Greg. I like that game, actually. No, he said he didn't want it. Formal appeal on any... Gold, silver, bronze. Not you. I don't want your game anymore. It's a beautiful ever. I'm not wondering now who the one was, though. Nope, that is true. I just want there to be record that I strongly oppose Mega Mike Monday.

Or any variation. You want it on Tuesday? Yeah. Preferably on Wednesdays. Wow. Let's pick them on Wednesdays.

You can have Wednesday if you want. Sweet. Yeah, you want to talk some racing? You want to talk some left turns? We're mixing in some right turns this week in Chicago, but let's talk about the Atlanta race. I mean, it's essentially a super speedway. Incredible race. It was TNT's first race with their package, and it was incredible. Multiple big ones. DraftKings unveiled this in-season tournament that featured head-to-head matchups. It was a bracket challenge.

And damn near all the lower seeds won because of the chaos that was on this track. But you had incredible racing, especially down the stretch. You had Alex Bowman and Chase Elliott teaming up to effectively make sure that Brad Keselowski would not win a race. And you had great thrills as two really popular drivers that had been waiting a long time for a win on the NASCAR circuit battle it out. And Chase Elliott wins his first race in 44 races. That is NASCAR's most popular driver in his hometown track. It was absolute scenes. But

This week, I'm actually headed to Chicago. Second straight year I've done this for the Fourth of July weekend. Nice. Going to the Chicago Street Race, which is incredible down at Grand Park, side of Lollapalooza.

and doing something really cool with DraftKings and Cuervo. They're teaming up for the Ultimate Street Race Party at Joy District, 112 West Hubbard Street, Saturday, July 5th from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. Come through for drinks, racing, vibes, giveaways. Xfinity Series race is going on that day. Zach Brown Band concert is a part of all the festivities. This isn't your traditional NASCAR race because the infield is where they hold Lollapalooza, so you've got concerts, dance,

activations, incredible opportunities to meet and greet with some of the circuit's greatest drivers, and for a street race, I really hope the weather holds up because this one has promise. The Xfinity Series race last year was one of the best street races I've ever seen with Larson and Van Ginzburg doing battle. But for whatever reason, the Cup Series has just never had the benefit of good weather.

If you have a sunny day and summertime shy, downtown with all those buildings around it, it should be picturesque. And for a street course, really good racing. So I'm excited about that. And just whatever happens, we cannot have a repeat of last year where Alex Bowman somehow wins. Wow.

you mentioned kyle larson though what is the video setup that required that is required here for somebody throwing an f-bomb into the sky what is uh what is the context that this video with kyle larson required so formula one fans got super excited because there was chaos in uh in their most recent race and they don't know chaos chaos is a nascar race especially super speedway racing so this will put you in kyle larson's car as a spotter is talking to him helping him navigate the chaos that's in front of him kyle larson one of the few big name drivers that

that didn't get caught up in this mess, and it was by expert level driving and expert level spotting. Here's the video.

That's crazy. Holy ****. Great job. Really good heads up. Absolute chaos. Let's start up one more time just as a B-roll. You don't need the sound there. But these cars are going absolutely...

At this point, 170 miles per hour. And everyone's fishtailing. No one's in control of their car. Kyle Larson had some really good moments this season and some tough luck this season. Somehow avoids this. This is the same spotter that went at Kyle last year when Danny Hamlin was kind of bullying him a little bit. And he's like, he pulls that move because you let him. And he got all sassy. And Kyle Larson was like, dude, shut the f*** up.

up? Seems like they made up. Have you guys been scared like that? That's happened to me a couple of times in a fishtailing car one time spinning on a highway. When you're drafting on the highway, Dana? It was not while drafting, but it was just... I did not know in Bristol, Connecticut how to drive in snow as a Miami guy. Ha ha ha!

Wasn't aware that you've got to use your brakes differently. Been there. Yeah, I just didn't know. Nobody taught me that. You've got to have special tires. Have you guys ever been in a fishtailing car? It's horrifying. Yeah, when it's raining down the Florida Turnpike. Not fun. Also, there was one time I was driving to Tallahassee for an FSU game. That's the only reason I'd ever be in that crap town. I was driving an excursion, and I was going about 75 on the panhandle. Blew a tire. Somehow saved everybody's life.

You are filled with hate today. No need for Tallahassee to take that side swipe. It's unnecessary. I wanted to talk to you guys about something. I mentioned this a couple of times. It was an Adam Schefter report talking to an NBA executive, an NBA executive who said that –

whoever won the lottery in the NBA this year and got Cooper flag was literally winning a lottery that would be worth between 500 million and a billion dollars to be able to get Cooper flag. And it's not just the potential of Cooper flag. I think what's unstated there, or is it unstated? You tell me if you hear a lot being talked about in this realm, it's white American Cooper flag.

being great at basketball. When, who is the last great white American player? Larry Bird. I, when I talk about this, I do want you to understand that for a few years now, I have been saying the language barrier is,

makes it so that when Giannis crosses it charmingly, fighting through his second language to do so, he becomes an international superstar and beloved in this country. But it's been harder for the personality of Jokic to cross the language barrier. For Luka's personality to cross the language barrier. I'm not talking about guys who are great at basketball, they obviously are,

I'm talking about foreigners who are great at basketball, which we identify as our game and furthermore.

The game has been fed for 50 years. On the starting point was the racial rivalry between Larry Bird and Magic. That's ground zero on where we went from tape delay to international stardom. And rest assured, the race was a big part of it. It's not just that they were great. It's that one of them was black and one of them was white. Cooper Flagg has a chance to be successful.

something bigger than what? Kevin Love? Who are the white Americans that we even go to in the last 20 years as foreigners keep coming over and Joel Embiid tries to reach you where he can over the language barrier and does. It has to be Kevin Love or Alex Caruso. I've got news for you. It's not just the whites.

I've heard Bomani talk about this and why there were so many hopes and how Ja Morant moved the needle because we were essentially in the middle of a new generation of basketball where the biggest, most elite stars in that sport aren't American. Even the reigning MVP is Canadian.

He just signed for $285 million in extension today. Ja Morant, a lot of hopes were on him to be like the American hooper that gets people reinvigorated and replaces the- Like Derrick Rose did once upon a time. Yeah, and it just, with Ja, a lot of it's been his own doing, but there hasn't been like that new talisman as an American. Certainly when it comes to a white American basketball player in that league, we haven't seen it for quite some time because as great as Kevin Love was,

was he's going to be a Hall of Famer and capture the imagination the way that Caitlin Clark is. And I think you look at the Caitlin Clark phenomenon, yeah, she's an incredible hooper too. But part of it is, we can't ignore this, is she's an American white. It helps. And so if Cooper Flagg is as good as advertised, and they've been advertising him since he was 16 years old,

This is going to be a big deal for the league. And I'd add to that, though, beyond the race element, this is something that always where phenomenons are. These catch in ways that are unusual and it's unusual to say about a white American. But whether it is Jeremy Lin, Fernando Valenzuela.

Dontrell Willis, whatever you think of as sports phenomenons that cross over where all of a sudden it's good morning America, Robin Roberts. What's this ethnic thing over here? The white American is that in basketball as a novelty. It's just like, wait a minute, what do you mean?

We're going to get something different than what Nick Collison gets when he runs on every court for the last 20 years, which is everyone shouting, Shooter! Even though he's not. Largely role players now. It's true. The white American basketball player that is an elite all-star in that sport is of a bygone era. And if Cooper Flagg strolls into the league, he's going to stroll into the league that hasn't seen it for 20 years? Yeah.

You guys may not like this answer, but the person you're talking about is Tyler Hero, right? That is the answer, Tony. White American All-Star. Yes. And it's like, has he taken the nation by storm? He's got a song with Jack Harlow that uses his name, but even that doesn't breach pop culture the way it does. But remember, they made their deep runs with him injured. The rookie run that he put, was it 40 points in the bubble? An incredible performance there. Remember how outsized the reaction was for Tyler Hero. Yeah.

If he makes deeper runs, yes, he's an all-star right now, but he's a total afterthought in the league. Thanks a lot, Pat. Great first day of free agency, by the way. He will certainly ascend, and he will become a big deal. You're not wondering who that person on Greg's list is? It's killing me. Can you tell us, Greg, please? I need to know. You'll never know. No one will ever know. Literally, you never know.

No, I can't now. My pride won't let me. Pride of a lion. Yeah, thank you. Is it Gary the Bag? It is not. Oh, that's a good one. Might not even be a human being. Really? Yeah. Now we need to. Might not. But it might be. You'll never know.

Jeremy, you know something about me, right? You know when I'm grilling outside and it's summertime, you know how I supplement my summertime? Of course I do. I make a Miller Time. Of course. That beautiful white can. Oh, when it's so hot outside, I just put it right to my forehead, right there, and I just roll it sometimes right on the forehead, cool my body down, and then I crack it open and...

instant relief and then that first sip brother does that first sip that is a top five sequence of events that you can possibly go through i'm just serenity now when i just imagine that first sip of miller life just thinking about it's making me happy dude the sun is out it's nice you have your friends showing up you got your family there you just had your first sip of miller light and you know what you're happy

You're blissful. You're fulfilled. I've been stocking my cooler with Miller Lite for years and for good reason. It's brewed for taste. Only 96 calories and 3.2 grams of carbs. This year, Miller Lite turns 50.

There's five decades of cookouts, laughs, and ice cold moments that never miss. It's the original light beer, and it's still my go-to. Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

What's up guys, Tony here and I wanted to talk about something super important and that's how I keep my home protected. Obviously you guys know I have a little one back at home. My wife is there with her and I get tremendous peace of mind knowing that the moment I leave for work that my home, my property, my family is protected not just reactively but proactively by Simply Safe.

they are the number one for home security on the planet on the market there's nobody better than simply safe i got the cameras going on i got indoor cameras i got outdoor cameras i'm looking all over the place most security systems only take action after somebody breaks in but you and i know that's too late especially when you have a little one at home and when you have your wife at home and the big dog's not there right simply safe's new active

Everything's on the app.

I want to see the cameras. Boom. I see who's walking their dog a little too close to my yard, maybe leaving some dog residue close to my yard. I can go on the microphone and say, buddy, clean up after your dog. Over 4 million Americans trust SimpliSafe, and so do I. SimpliSafe is offering Levitar Show listeners 50% off a new system with professional monitoring, plus your first month is free. Visit simplisafe.com slash DLB to claim this offer. That's simplisafe.com slash DLB. There's no safe like SimpliSafe.

life.