Local Hour: I Don't Think He's THAT Good
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Chris, Billy, is Matt Sullivan in New York sending you guys any of the commentary, the running commentary on Stugatz's appearances on WFAN? Because he's sending them to me and it's not great.

Not this morning. I haven't gotten anything this morning. Not this morning. Zaslow is here sitting in for Stugatz. Sounds like we have a snitch amongst us. Well, Matt Sullivan is just sending the commentary. When is Boomer Esiason coming back? This Stugatz is the pits.

That's from Anthony D. Domenico, which is exactly who it should be from in New York. They want their hard knocks talk. They want their hosts informed. And I think Stugatz is taking for granted the idea that you can't just go on in New York and do the show the way he's been doing it here for years, where you just try to fake your way through it. I feel like anytime you call someone this, like,

This Stu Gatz is very insulting. I talked to him yesterday. I was able to track him down and got on the phone with him yesterday. I think he's pulling one over on them more than he is on us. I think this is a fun little summer camp trip for him. He's just going out there, kind of wreaking havoc over there in this seemingly organized situation that they've allowed him into. And he's just going to come back and laugh all about this.

He's going to laugh about the commentary. This Stugatz guy is terrible to listen to.

He's going to laugh at he is there for another two days. This is tough. I want Gio's perspective on the Mets, Yankees, and hard knocks, and then I try to mute out Stugatz. Whose idea was it to pick him over anyone else on the fan? Well, in fairness, they said maybe two days, maybe one day, I think, because I don't think he was committal to doing a full Tuesday through Friday. I was going to say a full week, but it's not even a full week because Monday was missing. I did not tune in this morning. I got my fix yesterday. I was just like, I'm not doing that again on the drive-in. Oh.

But I got in and I asked Taylor, I'm like, what's he, because I know Taylor listens to that show just regularly. I go, Taylor, what's he saying today? And he's like, he was saying stuff about the Yankees and I know he hasn't watched a game all year, so I had to turn it off. Taylor's pissed. Taylor's pissed. Now that we've outed him, I'll just tell you, I had a conversation with Taylor when I came in. He goes, I gotta tell you something. Last thing I want to hear is a guy who hasn't watched the Yankees all season. Tell me to calm down. Ha ha.

That's a pretty good Taylor. That was my first try. I haven't done it. That was really good. There's better Taylors out there. Is there no chance that, like last night, was he not watching the Yankees and the Mets to prepare for the game today? Well, this is the complaint he's getting from a lot of people. What do you mean he can't talk hard knocks because he didn't watch it? You're on New York radio. Wouldn't you think to watch it? Mind-boggling, someone is writing in. Like...

I've wondered before whether our stuff could work in New York and Boston because they respect sports too much for our stuff to work in New York and Boston. I'd be scared to be on. Like, if they were to call me one day and say, hey, I mean, I do stuff on ESPN, fine. But if WFA had, hey, you want to fill in, do this show, I'd be like, no way. I do not want to do that.

want to do that. That would be sick, though, if you just got in there and just started doing a Miami show. You know what? I would have to tell them in advance. I will definitely do it, but I'm just doing my show. I'm doing Zazzle Show 2.0. You guys are just airing it. Yeah! We begin with Anthony Carter's awesome game winner. I'm going to go out and heat Summer League championship. Why doesn't Alondis Williams have one of the two-way contracts?

Billy, when you made the Taylor impersonation, Zaz was delighted here recently by Taylor. But Taylor has been worn down. I have seen for about 20 hours Taylor's enthusiasm. Look at the anarchy that Stugatz is causing, and now he's been beaten down by it. Let me tell you something. Josh Beckett on shore rest. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast.

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I want to know from you and the group here because I'm not sure You guys suffer some of this stuff the way that I do but I went home yesterday sort of wincing after the show it happens more now than it ever has because of something that happened on

the show that I can't sort of shake off of me because of a mistake that I've made? How often after you've done what you've done do you hang on to it for a while? Well, not anymore because for the most part, I mean, I do national stuff on ESPN, but Zaslow Show 2.0, it's a podcast. If I don't like what I did, I don't have to put it out. It's a major difference. But when I was doing live radio, I would

lose sleep sometimes. Okay, well, this is what happened to me, and it was such an amateur mistake. I really, I can't believe I fell for it. You would think that I would be better. I don't, I'm not going to make an assortment of excuses. Africa, vacation, my brother died. However...

This is what happened to me that is the amateur mistake. I left here yesterday not realizing that I had underestimated what swirls around Tua. Because I made the mistake of saying this sentence. I don't believe that he's that good. And I didn't mean I don't believe he's that good. I meant...

I don't believe he's that good. I read it the other way. The first way that you said, I saw that quote on Twitter. I was like, wow, that's a, that's a thing to say. It's an amateur mistake. I made all that. All I was trying to do is point out that the stats that are assigned to him, I believe are,

inflated by system. I don't believe you can take him. Oh boy, you're doubling down here. No, no, no. Hold on, let my boy cook. I would say just forget about yesterday, move on, talk about something else. You're not going to win this battle. If you're aggregating that, you have to add multiple A's. Or you have to put that in italics, right? Yeah, yeah. All caps for sure. That's good. Only if there was an emoji to add the hand.

Right? Because you need the hand to extend that good. There isn't a Cuban hand emoji. Exactly. We need one. There is an Italian one, but not a Cuban one. The funny thing is, is in the clip, you give context. You're like, here's what I meant by that. But on Twitter, it's just you read the quote. This is where I felt like an amateur, though. I got aggregated.

Okay, you were getting mad about what? Because...

All I was saying is that in the history of South Florida, I have never seen an athlete this kind of polarizing on what the measurements of his worth are. So that's an interesting preface because I think that context was kind of missing from it. And at first I was getting mad having more of a macro view on the NFL, especially these days and not being emotionally tied to the Dolphins. I then like kind of reverse engineered like this is actually a cute discussion.

because it's the first time you guys have ever had these discussions about a quarterback with the current modern-day NFL salary structure. And another thing is, it's the first time you've had an offensive scheme since the 90s, where you actually feel, this was something that was said. I don't think any other team can replicate Tua, as if Mike McDaniel is the only person that knows how to run a freaking offense in the NFL. I'm seeing Jared Goff, who we've had this discussion with,

twice all of a sudden doing things in Detroit. Guys, relax. There are other offensive minds in the NFL that probably see Tua and say, I can get good production out of him. Right, he can't be the only guy who can help the quarterback

have good offensive numbers. The part that I objected to yesterday, though, was, okay, maybe it's the coach who's propping him up. Why don't we say that maybe it was the previous coach that was holding him down then? Like, why does it only work the one way with McDaniel? Maybe Flores was so bad on that side of the football that that's why Tua originally looked like that. I think the argument isn't, can an offensive coordinator see two and be like, I can work with that, is can I work with that at $55 million? Yeah.

Let me just rewind for a second, though, on what it is that I was trying to say. Because now, for some reason, saying someone is Jared Goff is an insult? I don't know anymore. No, it's not anymore. It used to be. Well, he's one of the highest paid quarterbacks. And what I am saying by saying that he's not that good, as good as his numbers suggest, is, I believe...

Never mind coach. I'm talking about the receivers, not just the scheme. I believe if I put Matthew Stafford in this system or 10 other guys like Matthew Stafford in this system, I'm going to get something that looks close to what it is that I see from that offense. Whereas if I put

Tua in 10 other offenses. I don't think I'm going to get the same numerical output that I'm going to get if I just take Tua and now move him to the Rams, say. Let's move him to the Rams where Goff was eventually told, get out of here. I'm going to upgrade with Stafford. There's your system coach. They've got skilled guys. They don't have dolphin skilled guys, but they've got skilled guys. Yeah, I think Tua...

does really well inside of the LA Rams offense, given that Mike McDaniel is a McVay guy. So I think that Tua can be plenty good in plenty other places. And while this is unique to South Florida at this position now,

We do this every... We've done it Dak Prescott's entire career. We did it with a two-time MVP in Lamar Jackson. It's tough when you think that, is he the best? Does this person warrant? Because every new contract is a new watermark when it comes to contracts that just...

That's how this goes. I'm never going to understand that. Like, why do we have to hold up? Okay, so Trevor Lawrence, the Jaguars gave Trevor Lawrence this contract. So now like Jordan loves people and maybe to a tongue of those people, they're going to look at, oh, well, you saw what they just gave Trevor Lawrence. So we need this. Why can't the team come back and say,

Yeah, they're stupid. And just because they're bad at negotiating contracts, why do we also have to be bad at negotiating contracts? That's what the Dolphins are doing and look at what they welcome, though. That's what the Dolphins are doing and look at what they welcome from their own fan base. It's obvious that what you risk doing is losing the quarterback that is...

given you the best seasons at that position in a very long time for this franchise, and you could dare another franchise to pay him that money. But just why does bad business have to beget bad business? I actually think that there's plenty of teams capable in the NFL of bad business, and if you're going to dare Tua to find a contract better than what you're offering him, I think that he'd actually find it.

Provided he stays healthy, which is always the thing with him. Here's also something that I don't understand about the Tua stuff and all the doubts surrounding Tua. It's not like Brock Purdy, where he was the last pick in the draft, and you're saying, OK, well, maybe it's Shanahan, and maybe it's all the weapons they have in San Francisco. We were talking two years in advance at Alabama, and not just we in Miami, everyone, about 10%.

Tank Fertua. From the moment he debuted in that national championship game, he was the guy. And now, all of a sudden, after leading the NFL in passing yards, it's, oh, he's a system quarterback. How would he fare if he wasn't with Tyreek Hill and Jay LeWan on Mike McDaniel? We were talking about Tua before the hip injury like he was a

generational quarterback. This is the thing to me, though, around this guy in South Florida that I find the most interesting because this is not by himself a polarizing cat. Like, there's nothing about him to not like. He's so easy to root for, too. It is. He is the epicenter of a bunch of things converging that are amazing. One,

That sport being as popular as it is. Two, that position being as important as it is. Three, fantasy leagues making it so that we all feel like we know as much as the general managers. Four, the general managers are also bad at

knowing what the value of quarterbacks are right now. Five, we all have opinions about all things in this sport. Six, you can have an opinion on this thing right now without being right or wrong today, so all opinions end up becoming valid. And seven, and this one to me, this is the biggest one to me because it really is. It's what Mike's talking about. We do it with Lamar Jackson. We do it with everybody.

How is it that everyone is coming to this trough with an opinion on value and we're all in agreement that everyone is shitty at doing the measurements here on value and that it's harder than it's ever been to measure what a value is when Brock Purdy's the last pick in the draft and you see like, wait a minute, how does that keep getting to the Super Bowl? It's such a bizarre sport in that in that Super Bowl, you had a guy who...

everybody would call the best in the sport in Patrick Mahomes. A guy that you have Tyreek Hill down here because they had to make room for that massive roster. And you wonder, how can you pay one position that much money? And we saw all season long, we were doubting the Chiefs because of the lack of receiver help over there.

And damn it, they found a way. They found a way to beat what? A team with Mr. Irrelevant at quarterback with a totally different salary cap structure, which loaded up on talent around him with Christian McCaffrey and Samuel and Ayuk and George Kittle and a crazy defense of pass rushers that they traded for to load up. There's a bunch of ways to get to the Super Bowl. It's just when you're talking best contract in the sport, biggest, fattest contract in the sport, it's Patrick Mahomes that can make it work.

We have those questions about Josh Allen. Now Josh Allen has stripped away all the talent that got him to that next level. What are we going to see from him? Is it going to be the same results as Patrick Mahomes? Do you not find this part of it crazy, though, that if we're going to hyperanalyze a sport and a position...

That everyone can be right and wrong about, yeah, Trevor Lawrence is worth about that. When I'm looking at Trevor Lawrence, I'm like, don't want him. Don't want him as my centerpiece on something. That is not, I do not want to attach myself to five years, the next five years of Trevor Lawrence. You wouldn't want Trevor Lawrence. What if you had Mike Glennon for several years? Yeah.

That's another part of this. I experienced it with Baker when I was a Browns fan. I'm like, wait a second. We're not going to pay the guy that got us to the playoffs? We're not going to pay the guy that solidified the position? We've been working 20 years to have a penciled-in starter at this position the entire time, and we're prepared to walk away from this? And I imagine that's what Jacksonville went through. Well, isn't it an either-or? Like, that's where we're at right now, right? You could either have Trevor Lawrence, and maybe he's really good.

We don't really know yet. Or you could have nothing. Like, those are the two choices, right? And if those are the two choices, probably not taking nothing. Nothing's that good. It's so confusing because you have faith in Trevor Lawrence. Well, he's got Doug Peterson, and he can do it with quarterbacks. Because why? Because he did it in a Super Bowl against Tom Brady with Nick Foles.

You can win championships a whole bunch of ways. There is a decision here that's franchise-altering. They have to get it right with you. Here's the thing, though. That's not accurate, okay? Trent Dilfer was used for a long time before Nick Foles.

The fact that you have two outliers there, every other copycat GM in the league will do the safety of what it is Zaz is talking about here. He's like, well, Trevor Lawrence is something. I'd rather have that than nothing because my way to Brad Johnson in the Super Bowl and Trent Dilfer in the Super Bowl, Nick Foles, that's the more improbable way. Number one draft pick? That feels safer to me. You're doing it with journeymen, and I think you need to do it with salary cap structure because we've seen the Seahawks do it with someone that probably had a lower number than Nick Foles in Russell Wilson. We see...

I'd sign up for the San Francisco 49ers experience. Yeah, I get to the Super Bowl and I lose arguably the greatest quarterback of all time, but I'm doing it with literally anyone at quarterback. I'd sign up for that. That's also the way the world works. You're the coach of this team, the owner of this team, whatever. You have to pick amongst 32 people or whatever, or if you want to wait a year, maybe 64 people. You're not going to get 32 quarterbacks the next year, so you have to make a decision. And that's the centerpiece of a team. You have

to build around someone and just not making a decision is just going to lead to no you're not going to have any success you're not going to be able to construct a team and then you're going to get fired if you're the coach or the gm you have to make a decision on someone at some point you do have to make a decision but the part that i want to discuss with you guys is when it is that you're making decisions in a salary cap sport and you're having so much trouble with the assignment process

of value because Mike is saying here that he'd sign up. Everybody would sign up for the San Francisco 49ers experience of the last few years except for the Chiefs. Everyone else would sign up for whatever it is that has been. And so when you have the structural changes in the sport that go from, hey, we're not paying left tackles now. We need to pay left tackles because they protect the quarterback. Hey, never mind. We're going to change this. We're not going to pay the running backs anymore. Wide receivers, those are super important.

Now what's the next change? The next change is, oh, just get me a Shanahan, get me a McDaniel, get me somebody who can maximize value because I don't have a salary cap on what I have to pay that person, and then that person can save me money with the Russell Wilson blueprint or the Brock Purdy blueprint if I can get a bunch of different players because I can get anybody to play in the system. Doesn't it stand to reason that now what you would want more than the Tua is the McDaniel? No. Does it?

Are we not headed there? This is the position that's always going to be the most important on the team. The other positions come and go. Now receivers are more valuable. Now running backs are more valuable. You need to build around a quarterback, and if you have one that's going to work, why are you going to let it go? If you have a perennial all-pro at that position that's healthy, you are in the playoff discussion as long as that quarterback is healthy, and I'd rather have that. But the thing that I'm saying to you guys about the changes in the way the sport

is done, right? Where we're all general managers. You do realize that the way that you manage your money is now more important than giving $60 million to the one guy that 10 teams might get lucky on because they've got the

10 guys in the league who can play the position. But we don't have enough of a sample to say this is the way that you do it. We've had a couple of Super Bowls. One of the best Super Bowls of all time, actually, when you look back on it, was Bengals-Rams. Joe Burrow was probably at a cap number less than what Nick Foles was when he won the Super Bowl, and he was a...

a split second away from hitting T. Higgins on a long pass that would have made them champions in that building. But who gets to be champion? The team that went all in and paid the quarterback the big money and is in salary cap hell since then, but is still in the conversation provided that Matthew Stafford is healthy. There's also no sure thing at the position, right? So like I'm uncertain on Tudor. What am I going to get? Bryce Young? How did that look like? We don't know if he's good. We don't know if he's bad. It's going to be years till we know. How about Justin Fields? He's not even on the team that drafted him anymore.

You don't know what the option is after this. So if it's working with this guy, you can commit to him. And the longer they wait, the higher the price is going to get. You can become a cautionary tale. Look, cite my Browns fandom. I was team signed Baker. I was so desperate for a quarterback. I think you played hurt, hurt his value. They decided, no, if we're going to spend the money, we're going to get a sure thing. And it's Deshaun Watson. And Baker Mayfield was pretty close to an NFC championship game last year.

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How many quarterbacks in the league do you actually believe? Like, obviously we're talking about can quarterback X take up this amount of salary cap and you could still win with having not being able to pay other guys and you're going to lose them. How many quarterbacks in the league can you actually give that huge number to and still say, yeah, we're good? Five.

Five? Really? I think it's less than five. Five's a lot. It's going to be Burrow, Josh Allen. You're going to feel pretty good about Burrow, Josh Allen. Well, it is Josh Allen. I don't feel good about Josh Allen because if that's the case, why do we have these doubts about the Bills and losing Stephon Diggs? We didn't have those doubts. You know you're going to be competitive. You know you're going to be in every game if you have Josh Allen. Lamar did enough last year to...

to take those questions away, right? I think there's three. They paid him the money and he won MVP. Is Hertz in the conversation still? Went to a Super Bowl? I don't know. I don't know. I guess my point would be to you, how is it that...

We can have as many people as we have covering, analyzing the most important sport, the most important position, and all of us can't agree on the value of five people. How is it possible that we can have that?

This much coverage and this much ignorance baked into the coverage when, you know, you've heard me say a million times, nobody correctly identified the MVP of the league as someone who would be that kind of quarterback. But this is where I started recoiling when I heard the segment.

where you were framing this as this to a discussion and saying like this is an interesting case study i don't even think it's the most fascinating case study right now i think what's going on with jordan love is way more interesting because if you ask me to forecast given how jordan love closed the season last year do i take the chance on him being one of those five guys i think that's way more difficult of a conversation more interesting

I think a lot of people right now who are in the weeds on studying film are telling you that Jordan Love is absolutely can't miss the rest of the way. Doesn't matter what his position players are. He's going to grow into that player. Mike, the specifics of what I'm saying about Tua in this market, this can't be refuted by anyone here. There's never been anyone like this person in this market where I got inundated with what my opinion was, which is simply...

I don't believe that if I take Tua and put him in any offense that I'm going to get all the same numbers I'm getting in this offense. I will 100% concede that. I would say that Tua is so unique. Zaslo made the amazing point that everyone was tanking for Tua. This was a guy that they benched Jalen Hurts in the national championship game for because he might have transferred if he didn't. But his injury history is so unique. What happened to Tua?

He had a devastating hip injury in college. But we thought he was dead on the field. That's why we're talking. I'm just saying in college. And then you have the frozen fingers in Cincinnati. He's got a very unique injury history that really makes the conversation around him even more nuanced, even though he kind of proved that he can be healthy for a full season last year. Right, but it doesn't even matter about proving that he can be healthy for the full season because it takes one hit. Like, it takes one hit. Wait.

Here's the thing, you've got guys like Burrow who have a much bigger history of injury in the pro level. And Tua, though, with Tua the conversation was, is he going to retire this year?

Is Burrow going to retire from either of his season-ending injuries? Conversation was to us, he may have to retire. It's a major difference. Let me ask all of you this, because I came to an appraisal that I'm not totally sure is accurate. You said he's not that good. Also Trevor Lawrence. Also, I'd like to back up Greg Cody's take that you can avoid some concussions with how you play.

If you're more careful about it. Yeah, don't play quarterback. No, it's quantifiable. There are quarterbacks that avoid getting hit more than others that are pretty smart about pocket presence and whatnot. This is the point that I wanted to ask the group about because I did surmise

that it is more probable that he is more of an injury risk than the average football player. And after I left here, I'm not sure that's accurate because of...

some of the other things that are in play, not just rule protections for the quarterback, but the fact that he throws everything in two seconds and rarely gets hit and gets to play the game the way that Tom Brady got to play the game. Never had a concussion, according to the internet, but also he played in an era where he definitely had concussions. Ah, shake it off, buddy. Does it worry you that he's thinned out?

Yes. But do I have it wrong? What worried me is the way he was thrown around. It looked like physically, the first couple of seasons, it looked like he was being thrown around as if a teenager was playing with adults. It didn't look the way that I'm used to seeing quarterbacks thrown around anymore. They've actually, for all the rule changes they've made, they somehow have managed to make the sport slightly less...

dangerous just there. Anytime I see a quarterback really hit, I think it's illegal.

I've gotten there any time. It's basically illegal to hit the quarterback in any legal way that makes me win. Yeah, there are hard hits where you say, that's got to be something. That's it. You cannot throw the quarterback that way anymore. But answer my question. The quarterback gets hit, you're just yelling, that's a penalty? That's right. That's a penalty. That's got to be something. The quarterback is on the ground, that's a penalty. You can't do that. Oh, come on. They have absolutely made it so that I am both of these things. I'm like, what happened?

That's what happened in good old-fashioned football. And also, you can't step on his toenail that way. That's a flag. That is illegal. I don't think he shifted his body weight. I didn't see that. Who's right and what are the votes in the room on is Tua... Oh, we have to decide on Tua's contract right now? No, no, no, no. It's an election. Who's right? Not the contract. Is Tua more or less likely than the average player to get injured? That's what I want to hear.

Why did he lose the weight? We had a seasoned sample of the weight working out. Now I'm worried again. Is Armstead playing? I think he wants to roll. He's going to run. That's a question. He's going to run? He's going to run. No, he shouldn't run. Don't like it. He's going to run. They're going to get him more time outside of the pocket. They're going to be moving him outside the pocket more.

They are going to use him that way. I don't like that. You want to avoid concussions, but we're going to roll him out. It kind of has that RG3 gene where this guy just has a unique ability to get blown up. I don't like it. Yeah, he rolls out. Isn't he running away from the other players? There's other players over there, though. But they're building up a head of steam. I don't like this one bit. The part about this that's funniest to me is all of this.

Let's make a $55 million a year investment. Guys, we got to make sure that everything around this is perfect so that he's throwing the ball in 1.1 second faster than everyone else in the sport. But Armstead might be out again this week. How about we get three tenths more of a second by ruling him out? Oh, no, he's got to lose weight to do that. And now we got a thicker cushioned helmet we need to get because there's more brain injury floating.

three feet outside of the pocket than there is inside the pocket. There's too much information because I've convinced myself one of the main criticisms outside of the injury stuff is Tua's arm could be stronger. You start rolling a guy out of the pocket, you lean on arm strength a hell of a lot more. I don't like this one bit. I don't know what Mike McDaniel's doing. His accuracy when he gets out of the pocket too. Woof.

This is a bad idea. Don't like it. Two-in pocket? I pay him. We don't know he was instructed to lose weight. He could have just lost weight. And they're like, buddy, you're not running. Could have gone carnivore. Who knows? All of this is why Dan said he didn't need that good. And Trevor Lawrence. No, he said he's not that good. You're missing the arm there, Zaz. I'm just telling you what I read. I would enjoy watching one of those Lifetime movie reenactments

of how it is the Dolphins tell Tua, you are worth $55 million a year, but only if we can keep you in this square footage. In this square footage here. And gain 15 pounds. Gain 15 pounds. So you can only cash those checks from this spot here. This spot. You can't roll.

Direct deposit is only in this heat map. Is this happening like a small town going back home for Christmas time? What does Hallmark have to do with this? Just like a love story here. I need a reenactment. Lori Loughlin in it. Someone's divorced. An actor's reenactment. There's always a divorce or death. Widowed or widower. What is his value? Billy, what is his value? You have a Tua jersey. What is his value? You've been here ardently. Well, that qualifies me. What is the value of that Tua jersey?

I don't know. I mean, I hope it's like $300 because it's expensive to get things framed. Dude, framing is almost more expensive than the actual jersey. I think I told you guys this when I took it to get framed. The guy was like, are you sure? And I'm like, am I sure? What are you talking about? Buddy, this is your business. I'm trying to pay you money for this thing. And he's like...

I heard that they may waive him. And it's like, you heard this? Where did you hear this? Yeah, I think Wednesday's the deadline. I'm like, well, we better get this done before Wednesday or hold off until Wednesday and I'm going to change my mind. Why are you telling me this? It's a curious business plan. It's a crazy business plan. It's like, this may not be valuable in two days. It's super expensive. Tell me this in three days. I got to the point at Chelsea where they kept handing me signed jerseys. I was like, no thanks. I got to frame this. That is a work of art.

as the Miami Dolphin experience. You go and take in a jersey of value in order to get it mounted on the wall, and the person asks you, are you sure? Are you? Are you? What do you think?

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Dan Levitard. We like to call this one a chorus of Owen Wilson. Ready? Stugatz. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. This is the Dan Levitard Show with the Stugatz. A lot of people writing in with an assortment of opinions here. Levitard has and has always been a blank.

I believe Dan Lebitard is washed. Where does that expression come from? What are we washing? I think it's just a shorter version of washed up. Yeah, but what does that mean? If you get washed up, what does that mean? Like washed up ashore, like you're a dead carcass. You're washed up ashore. I was thinking if you wash something too much, then it gets kind of ratty and you don't want to wear it anymore. So you're ratty. But you're...

Or a carcass. If you're washed right up until then, you're fine. You're hygienic. You're good. But there's a point where you go from washed hygienically to washed up. You're in tatters. I'm with Tony on this one. I think it's a bloated whale carcass. You're in the ocean. You're good. And then all of a sudden, you get washed up. It does seem to come from washed ashore. Let me start it on whales. You're welcome.

I want to get to that footage in a second of a whale. I don't know where this was just sort of, you know, breaching the water and causing damage to a smaller boat. But somebody else writes in the Dan Lebitard show featuring Greg Cody has that kind of ring to it. Get Greg to retire from the Herald and be the co-host with him there. It's harder for doomsday to ruin the show side kicking it.

And said, it's just Greg ruining the show. He was great yesterday. He was pretty good. I felt bad watching it, too. Like, Greg, I mean this sincerely, like, not a bit. I kind of got the feeling it was a little awkward watching it that I was, at the very least, I may not have made the cut, but I was, like, up for debate. And I don't want to put him in that situation.

I don't want to put him in that spot at all. For the record, Greg Cody has a 70th birthday party, and he doesn't know who around here to invite on the show. Can I tell you something? So I'm watching the show yesterday. I'm preparing for coming in today. I want to make sure I'm up to speed on everything. And I hear that Cody, he's got a 70th birthday.

birthday party coming up and I'm just kind of I'm doing my work and I'm kind of listening half-assed you know my ears perked up though I picked my head up from what I was doing I looked right that television when I heard Cody say everyone on air is invited that's a quote I didn't make that up everyone on air is invited I like parties I like drinking I

I like being around people. Open bars. I heard open bar, too. I didn't perk up quite at that because it was like, okay, that's an open bar that I'm not going to take advantage of, so I didn't perk up at that. I perked up at open bar, and then a few minutes later, everyone on air is invited. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. Well, let's play the sound here. I think that's what he said. Let's see if you have it accurate or not. Video has found the sound. Let's hear it.

It has been an interesting journey with this guest list, just about the people here, because it started really small with my dad handpicking a few, where I was like, this is going to make some people feel awkward. And then my dad's like, all right, screw it. Every on-air person's coming. And then my mom was like, whoa, who's Tony? I'm fine not being invited, Greg, if that puts you in a better spot. I'm okay with that. No, but I'm being truthful when I say my starting pro is Dan and Stugas. And Roy and Juju. Okay.

He's really mad at you. The face there was good. I don't want to get into any details about who is and isn't invited. So tan. The new me says everybody's welcome. And not just on-air people. I love the off-air people. Sounds like old you only said four people were allowed to come. Two, actually. Two. But no kids except Graceland. Okay, so direct quote. Correct me if I'm wrong. Direct quote. Screw it. That's what he said first. Screw it.

Everyone on air is invited. Now, my question to everybody. Am I on air? Presently, you are. Am I on air? Yep. Anyone object to that claim? Am I on air? You are on air. What was the quote again? Screw it. Everyone on air is invited. I'm on air. Sounds like you've been invited, even though you're his enemy. I'm using deductive reasoning. I have told you guys, Chris Cody, I think, I betray Zaslow when I say this, but I believe that for his entire adult life,

Jonathan Zaslow has texted me every time Cody writes an obvious column in the Miami Herald with just the headline of that obvious column to rip your father. I don't believe there's a sport. I was ruthless years ago. I was I was ruthless. I sent the same text to my dad. I don't believe, though, that there is in you guys have seen the.

evolution of the way media members in South Florida fight amongst each other. You've seen some of those industries kind of collapse. Radio, local television, print. There have been pockets that feud, and I don't believe that there is, in my personal circle, two people who I both like, I like both of them, who don't like each other

based on what they are professionally. It's not personal. No, he seems like a really nice man. It is not in any way personal. It's about the work that Zaslow does not respect. What it is, Cody does. But Cody doesn't respect what it is that Zaslow does. Doesn't respect it. Yeah, I think he's a really nice man. But, I don't know. Call him. It's a little bit for the birds. Upset bird. I don't know.

I'm not arguing with anything. You agree that your dad is not good at his job? Typically, we... I've told my dad to take more chances. You're an ingrate. Get out there.

Typically, when Billy says something like, don't get me started on the whales, we follow that. And we get him started on the whales. No, we don't have to get started on the whales. I'm just saying these whales better not wage war on us because it's over. What do you mean they better not? They already have. I'm telling them, stand down right now. Stand down right now because whales do not want to start a war with human beings because it will end poorly.

horribly for the whales. Horribly for the whales. If the whales want to continue to exist on this world, they will stop f***ing with human beings. I'm telling you that right now. Okay? There's not a human world under the water. There's a sea world on Earth because we capture the whales and then we put them in tanks.

And then we feel bad for them because they're so helpless and they can't do anything. They're like, you know what? We feel so bad for you. Just go back to your home and die in peace. Go away, whales. Let me play the video. Because they're never going to capture humans and put them under the ocean in cages and laugh at us the way we do them. If we wanted to end the whales, we would end the whales. So they need to stand down. Not just the whales. Dolphins, too. All sea creatures. Dolphins.

Calm down. Because I don't see whales starting GoFundMes and collecting things to save human beings. They're not trying to save human beings from extinction down there. We're doing that for them.

So pipe down, whales. Stay underwater. Stop flipping over our boats. You're acting not right. So credit on that video accurate. Was the co-host of Spitting Chicklets actually on that boat or did he just post it to his social media? You're saying shut your blowhole, whale. You can knock over the occasional small boat. I'm saying pipe down. Enough is enough. The Internet trying to act like they know the whale's motive is funny.

I was just like, "You see how this angry whale took out a boat?" It's like, we don't know anything about what's going on here. My biggest question though with that video is, Buddy who was captaining the ship,

No, the one taking the video. All right. The one in front. Ryan Whitney. I don't think it was Ryan Whitney. Former Florida Panther, Edmonton Oiler, Ryan Whitney. Isn't that Ray Whitney? But anyway. No, no, no. Ryan Whitney played for the Panthers. I think Ray Whitney also played for both franchises. He definitely played for the Panthers. Terrible trade to Carolina. My big question, though, is the guy who was steering the boat in the foreground, did he dip or did he go back together?

The guy who was now capsized. It's a great question. In this video, you, this, that's a big character move right there. This kid driving the boat. He's either getting the hell away from there or going to help. What do you think here? It looks like he's dipping. He's the, I got a dip. If you watch this video, the first student in the water, keep your eye on the first student in the water. This boat lands on his head. I am always afraid in deep water that one of the giant animals that calls that ocean a home court is,

is going to come and decide that I am on enemy territory, I am playing a road game, and I don't deserve to win a road game. Ever heard of torpedoes? For all we know, the whale thought the boat was a big seal. Like, I just love us giving the motive to this. Like, did you see this angry whale? Like, we have no clue what the whale was thinking. It is a little ridiculous talking about motive. You ever turn a corner and, like, hit your elbow on the wall? I didn't have a motive there. I just miscalculated. Yeah.

That is, I believe, what the whale did in that circumstance. This is the equivalent for that whale of us bumping our head on something that we miscalculated. But there is a recent trend of whales attacking vessels. I think the recent trend is that more people are videotaping things, I believe, is what is happening here. You used to write books about it. Moby Dick, you have one guy...

do whatever he did. I didn't read the book. So you're saying Moby Dick, not an isolated occurrence. Jonah, you know, on the whale. But back to that kid, I think he is making, you see him turning the wheel. I think he's making a U-turn. I don't know. He had the face of a dude who was about to dip. He had the face of a fleer. He's right about that. That is what flight looks like. That looks like he was at the beginning stages of I'm going to flee. Yeah, that wasn't fight. That was flight. That was very much I'm going to get out of here. I wasn't expecting...

It would have been crazy if he grabbed a harpoon, though. Or a torpedo. Summer's the best time to run the way you want. Dial it up with new challenges and programs and bring your workouts with you to make the most of outside sunny days. Stugatz, guess what? What? You know what you can do with Peloton? What? Get the app, go outside, ride a bike. Well, I thought you ride Peloton inside. Well, you do. You can ride Peloton inside if it's a rainy day or if it's cloudy or you just don't want to get outside. Maybe it's too hot. Maybe it's too hot.

summertime, go outside. I record a lot from my office with you and you've noticed it's sitting there yet. It hasn't been used. Well, now's the time. Summer's the best time to start that push. Right. Can we do it together? Not on the same bike, but we could join a class together. I used to do that. We used to have Guillermo Tan. I'd invite people. We'd all take a class together. Okay. So I think you're starting to get concerned about my health and my age, Billy. I,

I sense that with you. We're beyond starting. Okay. Whatever road lies ahead, your training starts here with Peloton Tread and Tread Plus. It's not just a bike, a treadmill too. I'm going to go outside. I'm going to get in shape. I'm going to do it with Billy Gill. I want to be in your class. I want you to be my instructor. You know what? I won't be your instructor. You don't want to spend more time with me. No, I can schedule a class and we can ride together. I won't be the instructor of the class. We can have Camila could be our instructor. I like the Grateful Dead class. My daughter, she uses the Peloton. Mm-hmm.

She was on it once and an instructor who was playing Grateful Dead tunes. Let's do that. Okay. Why don't we go for a run outside? Guided run. Peloton. Me and you. That's something we can do together. Okay. Turn on the app. Me and you go outside. Enjoy the summer. Call yourself a runner with Peloton at onepeloton.com slash running. All right.

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Easy. And for my money, it's the best ticket marketplace app out there. Take the guesswork out of buying tickets with GameTime. Download the GameTime app, create an account, and use code DAN for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Again, create an account. Redeem code DAN for $20 off. Download GameTime today. Last-minute tickets. Lowest price. Guaranteed.