Postgame Show: The Tyrese Haliburton Debate (feat. JuJu Gotti)
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Hi, this is Scronjay from a rotary. My boldest take is if a six game series is a long series, a five game series can't be a short series. You can't go straight from short to long. One of those has to be a medium series. Hey, this is Brad from a house phone guy who says said thing or said person instead of the thing or the person.

Stop that shot.

Bob Brofsky, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're blocking every puck and standing on your head. Bob Brofsky, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob Brofsky. This is Ethan on a mobile. This is a song about Tua in the style of Dora the Explorer.

Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-chua, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-chua, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-chua, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-chua. Chua, Chua, Chua, you're our QB. You had one healthy year but was it fluky? Grab your helmet. Let's go! Guardian cap! Bomb the nose! Please protect your brain.

Why is he not sliding? Why is he not sliding? Oh man, Tua's not our QB. This is Jed from Kansas City on a payphone. I maintain that three sliders that are good is better than one great hamburger.

That's a good take. Controversial. Hey, it's Justin from a car phone. First time, long time. My hot take is, why is it that if you were at a restaurant with a buddy and he ordered some Mozzie sticks, you wouldn't think anything of it? Nice appetizer. But if you sat across from that same guy and he opened up eight string cheeses, you'd think he's a psychopath. I'll hang up and listen.

Are three sliders better than a cheeseburger or does it need to be five? I'm team slider. If you get a couple of good sliders, all of a sudden it's like, I've got multiple. But it needs to be more than three, though. It needs to be five. No? Three is not enough to be better. As long as they're not two up, apparently. And four is a short series. Five is a medium-sized series. Six and seven, long series. Five.

Juju, I'm sorry that that is your welcoming music. Tonight I will remind the audience that we are doing a pregame show to Alley Oop, which is the main show, which is the postgame on Indiana and OKC. So Juju is going to be with us on both shows tonight, but I want you to check out Alley Oop after our show with Mero. Juju, welcome to the program. All right.

Did you have any opinions from our audience on where it is that we landed a month ago on our Panthers conversation and Mike Ryan being mad in general at the Panthers coverage of this show again for the third consecutive year, an annual tradition? I think we overlooked the big fact that happened, a big thing that happened in the last game. Bam out of Bayou came out to bang the drum.

He was accompanied by the birthday boy, UD. And I dare I say he might have did the same job you did. My boy was fast on the trigger. Let's go. Calm it down.

But we got the W, so we can't complain. Are you saying that Bam did it as poorly as I did or about the same, better, worse? What are you saying? As equally as poorly as you did. Whatever you did, the NBA superstar Bam Adebayo did the same thing. Similar grade for me. I think you guys were both strong. Neither of you were the worst that have done. I like that. Superstar. He's not a superstar. You guys did say I did it better than Jaime Jaquez. Yes. You did.

And so who's going to bang the drum next? You guys talk about this every game. We were hoping Coco Gauff, but I'm seeing that she was on first take this morning. I mean, she could still get here by tomorrow. I think so. Is she driving? Yeah.

Every time you think that you want to know who it is that's banging the drum. I want that scoop. Yeah. Who's it going to be? Who do you want it to be? Not Jack Nicklaus. Can't have that. Oh, no. I want it to be Ariana Grande. Well, Game 7 last year was Luongo. So I assume we're going to go back to that well if we have a Game 6 because it worked out so well last time. Game 4, I don't know. It's tough. Maybe do you bust out a Marino again?

I think we should auction off Dan LeBretard's Panthers jersey since we know he's not going to wear it again. If the Panthers win, let's auction that jersey off to the fan. Okay, maybe we'll do that tonight during our watch party, 8 o'clock as the pregame to our – you've been on it today. I wanted to talk basketball today. Chris, you've been good today. Chris, you've had a hell of a day today.

I wanted to talk with the group and specifically Dominique about Trey Hendrickson, okay, is among three players. Watt is one of them that they're just skipping minicamp. I'm assuming they don't want to just practice this time of year and I wouldn't blame them. But

Bengals rookie defensive end Shamar Stewart has waded into the mess in Cincinnati. And Juju, he says he's what percent wrong? Like, how is it that a rookie is getting involved in this nonsense with Hendrickson's contract? Right.

Right. He said he's at least 1% wrong because he has already signed a contract making himself, he thought about himself 100% right. So I want to ask Dominique, like, what does that type of talk do to a locker room, B-Bruh? Well, I mean, I think the...

There's always a divide in an organization. And all the teams I played on, like the coaches and stuff were upstairs and the players were downstairs. And so it was clear, like, us here are together. But it feels as though the Bengals, because of their history, that team I feel like draws closer because their organization is so uniquely stingy and awkward to their players. It's like I honestly...

It's pretty cool. It's not cool to have contract disputes, but it's pretty cool to come into a locker room in the way that Shemar Stewart is coming into their locker room in complete support of Trey Hendrickson. And I think that they all recognize, like, it's all we got. We all we got. And I probably think the coaches feel the same way. So it's hard to predict how these things will happen having not been in a locker room. But given the history of that team, I think the players are probably pretty close. What are you guys laughing about back there?

It can't be about this Bengals talk. Yeah, it was a laugh, right? No, we were talking about something else back here. Okay, great. I'm glad that that's what you were doing. The NBA Finals, Game 3 tonight, Pacers-OKC. We have our show, and then we have after that, again, because it's going to be three shows in 24 hours, we have the postgame show with Juju. Do you have any thoughts here on what's going on with the Pacers and Halliburton, Juju? Bruh.

I feel like the Pacers have made a grave mistake. They did the Knicks thing where they changed the street names around the arena to the player's name and their jersey number. I think you can stick a fork in the Pacers right now. They will not win another game. Take it from me. They will not win another game. Tonight is a legacy game for Tyrese Halliburton because he shrinks in those big moments. You feel me? Like, so he's...

He's right now the big – He shrinks in big moments? He shrinks in the game because the game is more than that last little second. You need the team to get you to that moment. If the team don't get him to that moment, what he does, five points here, five shots in the game. Right now he's big shot tie to me. Like, yeah, I'm impressed, but you got to get the ring. So I think that it's a legacy game. Can he put together a complete game for his team to get on his back tonight? That's the test. He's a clutch merchant.

Basically have Tyrese Halliburton as like Derek Fisher, which is interesting. Sam Bennett plays his best at the best moments. Do you think that there's a chance that the Pacers did this with the streets to make fun of the Knicks and New York City? Like, do you think that they're in on the joke potentially of like, oh, as we come home, we have to name all these streets because that's what the Knicks did.

Look, maybe they ain't on it, but hey, in or not, you're jinxing yourself. You can play with the Knicks if you want to. You beat them already. Don't kick a man while he's down. Them folks can't even find a coach over there. Your task right now is SGA, and I'm pretty sure that brother don't give a damn about what street he finna kick your ass on tonight. I need a clarification, though, on Tyrese Halliburton not being clutch because when he's –

right. No, no, he didn't say he wasn't clutch. He did not say he wasn't clutch. He says he has to have the game that proves that he's going to be playing well in the playoffs. Not the game that disappears seven points, eight shots, and then a couple of free throws. And Juju was exactly right, and the last game proved that he's right. Halliburton, if he doesn't hit that last shot, everybody's going, what a terrible game he had. He had like 13 points. If you're going to be the star of the team...

Siakam is, in my opinion. This is a wild thing. You need a bigger game than 13 points. You guys are making him bam out of bio. He's 13 of 15 in the final two minutes on shots that either are tying or... That's what we're talking about. There's 46 other minutes. You said he shrinks in big moments. I didn't say shit.

Juju said he shrinks in big moments. Maybe he doesn't shrink in the biggest of moments. I can admit. Maybe I was wrong in there. I was wrong with that. Not the biggest. Not the biggest moments. The big one. In the NBA finals, your team needs you for 48 minutes. Don't just pop up at 49 or 47 thinking that, oh, it was all good. It's all forgiven. No, because the next game when we needed you, you thinking we going to carry over the finish line again.

I'm with you. First 40 minutes are big moments. Last eight biggest. Yeah, no, he's got no he's in hell for most of the minutes outside of the last two generally. And I kind of get it. It's a little adjacent to like the Steph Curry thing. I just kind of want to see you be good in the finals.

I understand it's what you want, but he is a pure point guard. And I will remind you again, these things will get difficult to talk about if you keep doing it about stars and don't allow for the fact OKC does that to people. Like, you're just not. I get you want more from Tyrese Halliburton. He's given you plenty. I know you want more, but to be a champion, you're going to have to get over a defense that's going to do this. That's right. And fans are totally inclined to say, like, let's see it.

It's cool to say that's what they do to people. That's what the Panthers do to Conor McDavid. Everybody wants to see Conor McDavid break through and overcome that. And it's fair for people to expect that, as asinine as it is, to maybe call him McOverrated.

The reason I don't think it's fair to do this is because what OKC does in terms of creating turnovers is unprecedented in the history of the league. They will do it to anybody. Halliburton's really good. He's not as good at offense as they are at defense. Not only that, you were talking about what Anthony Edwards was doing last series, and it's like, why is he only taking so little shots? 10 shots, 14 shots, what's going on? It's so frustrating to me as an analysis. OKC's the best defense we've ever seen in NBA history. There's pretty good defense on those game winners, pal. OKC.

When he's 13 to 15, there's pretty amazing defense. And he shows you he can make shots against good defense. So what I think Juju is saying is let's see it for 46 minutes. All right? Right. Right. And Exhibit A, Game 5, the last game played in Madison Square Garden, he took like five or six shots. So, I mean, hey, I know OKC does that to you, but the New York Knicks done it to him too. But he won.

Okay. All right. Touche. Touche. Siakam series. I am with you. Halliburton should go 13 for 15 on all the shots he takes in all of the minutes. And then he should be the greatest player ever. That is what SGA does, though. Why do they play the game? Why are they playing game three? Why are you doing a watch along for it? That's just what they do. That's just what they do. He can't overcome it.

He can't find an extra gear. If I'm being honest about why we're doing a watch along, it's because we booked Merrill when we thought the Knicks were going to be in the finals. Whoa. Well, no, it's because too honest. Uh,

Maury Povich, your thoughts there. Are you old enough to appreciate the royalty that joined us today? Yes, I am. When I saw him on the screen, I'm like, dang, that brother does not age. He looks just as good now as he looked while he was telling people, you are not the father. But I don't think we've had a more honest moment since Michael Dole yet. Whenever Mike was like, Maury, you're a member of the Chevy Chase family.

uh club aren't you and mario was like no i'm not he did not want to be a part of that club so salute the big brother and connie chung uh we did uh very poorly by uh poor maury povich by putting him in the chevy chase club and forcing that very angry denial uh marvy yes i'm sorry marvy povich what do we have for poll updates juju poll updates uh and also lastly

I agree with you, Greg. Baseball's unwritten rules need to get over themselves. Like, oh, you can't step on the diamond without a full uniform. Sir, please. I think one of the first steps to being a better person is being able to laugh at yourself. Yes. And baseball never laughs at itself. Never. Get out of here. Put it on the poll. Does baseball ever laugh at itself? Never. At Levitard Show. What do you have for us on polls, Juju? Yes.

Is chicken noodle soup the king of the soups? 65% of the audience says yes, it is. Whoa! Whoa!

That's a win for us matzo ball folks too. No, no. How? What? It's just a variation. If anything, it's an upgrade. How was the matzo ball soup? It was delightful. I know it was. Delightful. Told you. How was the matzo ball itself? It was delightful. My man picked it up with his bare hands. He liked it. Cup it a chunk out of it. That's not how you do it. Cup that thing.

Also, Greg, how do you like the mini fridge? Is that okay? The mini fridge? I don't like minis. No, come on. Against all minis. I don't like the mini fridge. What if it got a bunch of beers in it? I'll make an exception. There it is. The mini bar. The mini bar in a hotel room. I will acknowledge that. The mini bar in a hotel room. Give me that mini bar. Yes. Yes.

One time exception. Mini bar. The poll from yesterday is Hallelujah, an awesome middle name. It's a great name. 51% of the audience says no, it is not. Damn. Nobody like Gorilla, huh? Damn.

Wrong audience. Yeah, yeah. Wrong America. Would you eat split pea soup cold? 88% of the audience says no, they will not. See, Greg, I think I've got this right. People are with me on soup needs to be warm. Not hot? Yeah. Just warm. Not cold. Tepid? Okay or no? Not split pea soup. Tepid is gross. It's got to be warm. Tepid's no good. Do you hate your bed?

81% of the audience says no, they don't. I can't believe 19% do. I've never heard somebody say that about their bet. I thought that conversation with Samson was shocking. Yeah.

What kind of fear is that? You approach your bed scared. He doesn't have fear. I want you to examine for a second the lack of self-awareness in this. You approach your bed scared. You sleep fearing that if you sleep, you're going to wake up screaming. If you don't sleep, you go to the doorman downstairs, and then you get on national broadcast and say you're fearless.

That happened today. And the zippers. That dream he had was ass. I dreamed that it was you and Stu Goss. I could see y'all faces, but everybody else's faces was blurry. I need to text Dan about this. That dream out of my life. Get it out of my life. Cut it out. Can you cut it?

Can you call yourself a fearless person if you're afraid of people putting their hand in your candy bag? 84% of the audience says no, you can't. T-Toss? And the last poll is a chapped ass the best ass to tell someone to kiss.

74% of the audience says yes it is. And those are your polls. Juju, thank you again. Join us tonight, 8 p.m. on YouTube, broadcasting what should have been the Knicks and OKC. Watch Lou Dort and the strangling defense of OKC make Juju and others say that Halliburton is a choking choker who does not do big things in big moments. I hope that it escalates tonight to Mike telling someone to kiss his ass.

Kiss my ass, Mike, was crossing a line. It's very easy for Brad. It's eye level. To tomorrow?