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Mike: 对引进布兰登·英格拉姆持谨慎态度,认为其是否适合热火队存在疑问,但承认其天赋。同时,比较了英格拉姆与拉文的优劣,认为英格拉姆更佳,但交易方案不明确。最后,提出一个新的方案:让球队摆烂一段时间,培养年轻球员。 Mike: 认为热火队休赛期引援策略应该围绕现有球员展开,并根据情况进行调整。他认为布兰登·英格拉姆是一个有天赋的球员,但其是否适合热火队还有待观察。他还比较了布兰登·英格拉姆和扎克·拉文,认为前者更优秀,但交易的具体方案还不清楚。 Mike: 对热火队休赛期引援策略持谨慎态度,认为球队应该关注现有球员的培养,并根据实际情况进行调整。他认为布兰登·英格拉姆是一个有天赋的球员,但其是否适合热火队还有待观察。他还比较了布兰登·英格拉姆和扎克·拉文,认为前者更优秀,但交易的具体方案还不清楚。 Amin: 认为热火队目前实力与老鹰队和公牛队处于同一水平,甚至可能略低于魔术队。他认为热火队能否取得突破,很大程度上取决于吉米·巴特勒的健康状况以及合同年表现。同时,他指出其他东部球队在休赛期都有所提升,竞争更加激烈。 Amin: 认为热火队目前处于季后赛附加赛竞争水平,即使吉米·巴特勒保持健康,在季后赛中也面临巨大挑战。他分析了东部其他球队的提升,认为热火队的提升幅度相对较小,吉米·巴特勒的健康和合同年表现是关键因素。 Amin: 认为热火队目前实力与老鹰队和公牛队处于同一水平,甚至可能略低于魔术队。他认为热火队能否取得突破,很大程度上取决于吉米·巴特勒的健康状况以及合同年表现。同时,他指出其他东部球队在休赛期都有所提升,竞争更加激烈。 Billy: 建议关注热火队年轻球员科尔·斯威德的进步,认为他会在夏季联赛中表现出色。同时,他分析了东部联盟其他球队的休赛期运作,认为76人队、尼克斯队等球队实力增强,对热火队构成威胁。 Billy: 认为东部联盟其他球队在休赛期都有所提升,热火队需要认真对待。他分析了76人队、尼克斯队等球队的提升,并认为热火队需要关注年轻球员的培养,同时吉米·巴特勒的健康状况至关重要。 Billy: 认为东部联盟其他球队在休赛期都有所提升,热火队需要认真对待。他分析了76人队、尼克斯队等球队的提升,并认为热火队需要关注年轻球员的培养,同时吉米·巴特勒的健康状况至关重要。

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The discussion revolves around whether Brandon Ingram could be a suitable addition to the Miami Heat, comparing his potential fit to Lamar Odom's experience with the team.

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Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I am working myself through all the emotions and I'm going to walk back my emotional rebuke of Brandon Ingram. Let's try to have a rational level conversation about Brandon Ingram, if that is indeed the pivot. Brandon Ingram's career to me, I understand where he can help.

the Miami Heat. They need scoring in the half court. He gets buckets. To me, his resume and his general approach does not scream fit for the Miami Heat, but the aforementioned Lamar Odom did not scream fit for the Miami Heat when he came in here, and maybe there are parallels. Very similar games, too. Well, I mean, I'll be perfectly frank with you. So Lamar Odom played in an era where they had the three-strike rule.

If you test positive for marijuana once, they don't say anything. They just quietly put you in a program. The second time, you're suspended for a number of games, and it is publicly announced. The third time, you're done for life. You're kicked out. That's it, right? Lamar Odom got his first two strikes his rookie year in L.A. And mind you, this is like they tell you, yo, testers are coming. There's every opportunity to not mess it up.

So he actually played the rest of his career with two strikes and managed to manage around it. Good for him, by the way. Yeah. That's very difficult. Obviously, if you get two strikes quick, you're fouling off a lot of pitches. Choking up. Yeah, he actually stopped smoking marijuana. Shorten the swing. Is that what happened? No. But I say that to say that any kind of aspersions towards...

Like, hey, Brandon Ingram kind of has a look in his eye or whatever. Brandon Ingram also, like, I don't know if he's cleaned it up recently, I guess because...

I haven't seen it on social media. He also had, like, takes one to no one. Huge anger problem. That dude was down to scrap often. Like, he was a very emotional player, which surprises you because his general demeanor outside of that stuff is pretty chill. Chill, yeah. You say that, Mike. You know what I hear? He's fiery. He doesn't let anyone push him around. So is this, is Brandon Ingram...

an actual pivot that would make sense for Miami, even as a placeholder? Maybe get Brandon Ingram in your camp, and a lot like Lamar Odom, use him as a chip for another deal down the line. Are you team rock with what you have, or are you team let's kick the tires on Brandon Ingram? My belief is always you've got players...

You figure out what you can do with said players and then keep yourself in a space where I can pivot off of that. He can score, no doubt. He can score. He can defend. He's very long. He's long. He's versatile. He can make some plays as well. I think he's a guy that he may not be Mr. Right. He's Mr. Right now. He could be a hell of a Mr. Right now. A hell of a Mr. Right now. I would like their chances better.

With my whole initial response to Brandon Ingram is like, I will concede, yes, that is a talent upgrade. No doubt. He's an all-star. He does all the things that Amin just mentioned. It's just, it's way too soon to talk me into Brandon Ingram, given where the expectations and the hopes have been over the last few years with superstar chasing. The problem is, like, the alternative is a name that Jeremy said and that Chris just whispered in my ear, and all you guys are in on this, is Zach Levine.

Now, Zach Levine... I'd rather Brandon Ingram than Zach Levine. Right. Like, Zach Levine isn't the defender that Brandon Ingram is. Zach Levine isn't as big as Brandon Ingram is. Zach Levine doesn't have as good of a track record as far as being an elite player in this league as Brandon Ingram does. Zach Levine and his coach...

Haven't seen eye to eye. And if you thought Billy Donovan was a little too much, wait until you get a taste of what's down here. Zach Levine is under contract for two years and a player option at $43, $46, and $49 million. They're probably going to have to staple something that Zach Levine gives you. That has been the reporting. And that's what's had me sort of trying to convince myself into that one, talk myself into it, is...

you'd be acquiring a player who for five straight years averaged 24 or more points per game, shooting 45% or higher from the field, who can play a little bit of defense. And if you're trying to convince yourself of, hey, you need some type of upgrade,

If you're attaching a pick and making a move for a player like Zach Levine, it can be an upgrade from a talent perspective. But the further question is, Brandon Ingram, who is a more talented...

longer player who could contribute to you right now and is an expiring contract. So someone who you could acquire and then puts you in a position to have some salary cap relief. The question is, what does a package for him look like? Because the reporting thus far on what the Sacramento Kings, who were reportedly the frontrunner for Brandon Ingram, what their package would center around would be Kevin Herter and Harrison Barnes. And that's not exactly overwhelming. So what could the Heat...

move for Brandon Ingram and potentially keep a couple of their younger players. I don't know the answer to that, and those are the things that we'll see play out now over the next days, weeks, and the rest of the summer. For the podcast listeners, Mike looks like he just smelled a fart. How about a new plan? Let's just suck for a little bit. Cooper Flagnick's here.

It's going to be impossible. They're not going to be bad. With the development of Jaime Jaquez Jr., that's the part. Putting him next to Jaime, I feel like will help him so much, brother. Because Jaime had to do so much in the playoffs for the team, and which he was doing. He was scoring. He was rebounding. I think that he would just help further the development of Jaime. Plus, keep an eye on Cole Swider.

Led the G League in threes last year. He's working hard. You've seen him off and working hard. He's going to have a big summer league. I'm telling you that right now. Keep an eye on him. Swiderweb, stand up. Yo, you know what's funny?

Is that, I know Billy's doing a tongue-in-cheek thing, but it's like, no, Billy? It's catching on, Swiderwebs. But, like, he might be right. Because, like, how many times have we seen this? The guy that was on the roster that was like, yeah, what's he going to do? And then the next year it's like, oh, shit, this guy's in the rotation and he's actually pretty good. What grief step is Swiderwebs?

Hey, man. We're in the sages of grief right now. We started with Brandon Ingram, Zach Levine, and now we're at Cole Swider. You're two years away from convincing yourselves to give Cole Swider a max. Oh, no, no. Just so you're aware. I was there with year seven. Yo, someone put the tag on it. What's today? July 2nd, right in the big suey, right? Swider Webb. Max Deal. Billy called it. I look around. I see the lay of the land in the Eastern Conference. Lay of the land for me.

I'm an NBA champion in Boston. I got one over. We beat you in the first round. You have all these hopes on Jimmy Butler. You're hoping he stays healthy? Boston's great. He's not going to stay healthy. Boston's great. What else? Move on. Next one. If I'm a Philadelphia 76er, I'm super excited. I got Paul George. I made that happen in the face of a lot of people telling me that can't happen. I have Maxie locked in. No one said that can't happen. The only reporting was that they didn't want it to happen.

by the way. They wanted it to happen, then they didn't want it to happen, and then, oh, well, I guess we'll settle for Paul George. That's kind of how it worked. First of all, they had maximum cap space, number one. Well, they made it happen, and they got better. Did they not get better? Our guy Jake Fisher told us yesterday, this was the plan

going back as far as when they traded Harden there to begin with. Well, they needed another guy and they got their other guy in Paul George. But now having said that... Questions remain about him, but they got their guy. Remain about him, remain about Joel Embiid as well, and also remain about the rest of the roster because this is so far what they've done. They said, I'm getting Eric Gordon's

old ass. Ah, Daryl Morey. Andre Drummond, who's best known for trying to steal Torrey Craig's South Alley Oop, right? And then bringing back Kelly Oubre. Which is a big one. That's the big one. He played well for him. He played well for him. But everyone keeps saying, what do you think the Sixers land in the East? I'm like, I gotta see the rest of their roster because...

Right now, it's like, all right, you've got three really good players. One of them gets hurt all the time. You're doing a good job of poking holes in it, but I think most people would say Sixers and their fan base feeling better today than they did a week ago. Sure, sure. But I'm just saying don't fast track them. But they've gotten better. We're taking inventory of the East right now. New York Knicks?

iHeartRadio, man. You missed your iHeartRadio app. They're going to miss Hartenstein, but they got Bridges. They were really excited about that. Have you seen Mitchell Robinson? That looks like he added a little weight, man, and not in the good kind. He'll get into shape, but they're feeling better. I don't know. They're feeling better. They're feeling better because they're doing the dice thing. Even inside your own division, Orlando's feeling better? Orlando should feel better. Orlando is better.

So those are the teams that you're really competing against. Yes. Right? Milwaukee...

Tread and water. Same thing? I think Milwaukee's going to be better. Okay. I think full camp and... But they haven't done anything to their roster, have they, to get better? No, they added DeLon Wright. I don't know how big of a thing that was for you. It wasn't. Okay. It wasn't. So you have the same teams that you have to worry about. Let's just say Milwaukee is treading water. We're welcoming Orlando into that conversation formally, division champs. And we're saying Boston and Philadelphia and New York, they all got better. Yeah.

Miami's move is bringing back Kevin Love. Indiana's move is bringing back everybody. Yeah, and I think that you're feeling good if you're a Pacer fan too because you're on an upward trajectory. And you've got these younger guys. So are the Hawks. Well, the Hawks' move was to give away pennies on the dollar for DeJounte Murray. Yeah, I'm not worried about the Hawks. While we welcome the Orlando Magic to the conversation, we formally close the door on the window. It's funny we haven't mentioned the Milwaukee Bucks. We did.

We just did. Yeah, we have. Steve Martin. On me. He was trying to do some research. We did. He mentioned Delon Wright. On me. Big move. That's where you were going. Yeah. So this is why I'm disheartened.

Is heart and radio? No heart radio. This is not good. This is really bad. We all concede. This is really bad. So we just said that the Heat are basically like a six seed right now. No, I think they're a playing team again. Playing? Nah. Okay, I'm going to read you the teams from the bottom. They've been playing the last few years. Is that an insult? Mike, I'm going to read you the teams from the bottom. I'm asking genuinely. Is it an insult to say that a team has been a play in the last two years?

A six seed is just one spot out of being. We're doing semantics. No, I understand. And that's where the argument is. If Jimmy Butler stays healthy, you change your seating. I don't actually think that matters because of runs like the Miami Heat two years ago and the fact that, okay, you're the two seed. Congratulations. You're playing the Philadelphia 76ers. You're f***ed.

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Dan Levitard. Oh, I think Larry Fitzgerald's on the green right there. Stugatz. That's Alfonso Ribeiro. Now, how do you think that Larry Fitzgerald is on the green? The sun. The sun. Oh, the sun. To be fair. To be fair. Alfonso Ribeiro has a great ass. This is the Dan Levitard Show with the Stugatz. Mike.

Okay, we'd say Detroit, Washington, Charlotte, Toronto, Brooklyn. Thanks for showing up. Adios, right? Atlanta and Chicago. I see it like that. That's a tier that Miami's operating in. Atlanta and Chicago? That's scary. Absolutely not. Mike, everyone looks at the heat above those teams. Everyone naturally. Even if you're putting them in the same boat talent-wise, you're putting the heat above them. I'm putting them at the top of that second tier. I'm putting the magic. At best, you can maybe group the magic in Miami's tier.

If you want to expand the tier and not say Orlando is just there yet. Oh, Cleveland. Forgot about Cleveland. Cleveland's going to be better. They're better.

Dude, this is a playing team right now. But why are they better? Why are they better, Mike? Because they brought their guys back and they got a new coach? They're better because they're running it back. But they're running back a better team. A team that was better by two games. A team that was healthier all year long. Kenny Atkinson, I don't know why it took... I'm sorry, why did it take Kenny Atkinson so long? It didn't. Charlotte offered him the job and he took it and then he realized that they were going to

do the Charlotte way and he said never mind. Yeah, because he had a nice start to his coaching career over in Brooklyn. I think that's an upgrade. It is. I think he's going to help them. They'll be better. So all these teams are doing something to improve their team. But I would also say that again, these are all marginal improvements. These aren't like massive... Look,

Paul George has the potential to be a massive improvement. Guys, four games separated eight seed and two seed last year. I'm aware. You're banking on a healthy Jimmy, though. Jimmy's never played for the Heat in 64 games. Thank you, Billy. That's active. That's a decision. There's a difference between load management and being injured. And I think that that is what you heard from Pat Riley in his postseason press conference. But how do they bridge the gap? Jimmy Butler reportedly...

playing for a contract, his last contract. If you don't think that contract years mean something to the NBA and to every other league, look at every star player in their contract year in the way that they play. Jimmy Butler showed you in moments last year, he had his most efficient season. He didn't play a ton of games. He didn't take over quite as many games as you anticipated, but he still had

had the ability to make that impact and if he and the rest of this group are healthy it's not to say that that they shouldn't be trying to make moves to improve the roster but i think that their line of thinking is the continued development of the young players

And a little bit of health changes by five or six games, no different than KCP might do it for Orlando or anybody else. You say he didn't play a ton of games. He only played four games fewer than the season before. He just doesn't play that much. And in that year, they were also in eighth seed, right? If he played more games, which is what Pat Riley has been arguing with Jimmy's agent and Jimmy for the last couple of seasons, which is why it boiled over in his post-year press conference, and

And the main guy he was calling out was not Tyler Hero, was not Bam Adebayo, was not anybody else on the team. It was Jimmy Butler because he views it that his star should be out there, particularly when he saw Boston have all their guys play all year long and the Knicks overachieve because those guys played so many minutes. That's just not what he does, though. He hasn't played more than 70 games except twice in his season. The last time was in 2016.

He just doesn't play that many games. It's a risky plan putting all your eggs in. Jimmy's just going to be better at his age with all those minutes and with the recent years. I don't disagree on that. What's the number of games that Jimmy has to play to be a successful season? 71! 70, maybe? He's only played 70 games twice in his career. He's in a contract.

I don't know what he's going to play. He's going to play 80 games. These are, these are all variables. I'm not discounting what he's saying, but these are not tangible things. Whereas all the other teams have tangible things that you can stack against changing personnel, changing staff and mark markers along the way that at least signify improvement. We're just hoping on maybe Jimmy decides that he wants to play a little bit harder and better. Also congrats. You don't have 40 games of Kyle Lowry on your roster this year. Why is, why is Jeremy wearing sunglasses?

Oh, my eye doctor told me that I need to stop staring into light so often because my vision's getting significantly worse. Your eye doctor said that? Yeah, my eye doctor told me, so she asked, like, hey, can you wear sunglasses if there's light all the time? Look, these lights are terrible. This is a reasonable thing. It's happening. I'm sorry. It's cool, but you weren't wearing glasses until the news of Donovan Mitchell extending broke. You were fine yesterday, today. I've been, whatever. I kind of feel like John Hammond in Jurassic Park in that...

I brought all these allies here to cheer me up and the only one on my side is a blood-sucking lawyer because Billy and I like totally aligned here. Like I don't... Wait, what?

Am I a lawyer? You're the bloodsucking lawyer on this scenario. You're a bloodsucker. Is he good or bad? Everyone else is supposed to be excited about Jurassic Park. Billy, he's the guy that gets eaten on the toilet. He dies? Yeah, he gets eaten. On a toilet? He's the one wearing the suit and he's in the car with the kids. Suit with shorts. He's in the toilet hiding from the T-Rex, but he's taking a dump while he's doing it because his pants are down. I would have held it at that point.

Are his pants down or are they just flesh colored shorts? Can we look at that up? Because his outfit was he was wearing like a suit but with shorts. So let's look that up. Imagine the shit chat. Imagine the shit chat. Can you believe this situation I have found myself in? I'm in the middle of Costa Rica. I am presently hiding. Like a screenshot of like the. I am presently hiding in a porta potty next to the T-Rex paddock.

I think I'm safe. That's not a porta potty. That's an actual toilet. Shorts on. Flesh colored shorts. There you go. I recently saw Jurassic Park. That's why. Also in this scene, it makes no sense because the car, remember when the T-Rex pushes the car over, it falls off of this cliff.

That T-Rex just stepped right over the thing. That was ground level. Where did this cliff come from? Spielberg, what are you doing? The T-Rex's ability to get the shack off of him without getting him off the toilet, it was just very impressive. Yeah, and if you slow it down frame by frame, you see Jeff Goldblum, Dr. Malcolm, flying through the air. You know where he messed up, by the way, the lawyer?

Is shitting then? Why, he's paying to the kids. If you're going to hide in a toilet, you've got to lift your feet up so that the T-Rex doesn't see you. Is he in there? No, I don't see any feet on the ground. This is why I don't see the T-Rex looking down. Prefab construction, too. Speaking of construction, I don't think we talked about this on the show that happened over the weekend. Bronny James to the Lakers. Like, what's the over or under?

You feel me? Slow report. What's the over or under of him actually getting burned this year? Like, do you guys think that he's going to get minutes, two, three minutes here or there, or is it going to be blowout central? Ronaldinho is on the Lakers? Yeah. Ronaldo? Breaking news. Pity minutes?

I also think Dalton Connect, that pick, bro, I can't believe he failed to the Lakers. That's a pick that I think will prove to them and be effective instantly because he's an older guy and I feel like in the tournament, it was him going against Zach Eaddy as

Welcome to Memphis, by the way. We can get to that. I love that. You do? You do? I love that for Memphis. That's really confusing. Hashim the Beat Part 2? Yeah. And the beat goes on. One quick shout out to the flesh-colored short suit-wearing lawyer in Jurassic Park. He said something that is basically a fundamental life principle to those kids. What's that? Is it heavy? Then it's expensive. Put it down.

If you have kids, I'm recycling that line time and time again. But you like the Zach Eaddy thing? I do, because it's not boring. I think that this will prove, because John Moran is coming back this year with something to prove, because he saw the rise of Ant-Man, and he's the face of the league, quote, unquote. Yeah, he missed an opportunity. It felt like he was right there. We were all ready to crown him. No, it was interesting.

It was his. That was him. I feel like what better system for Zach Eder to go into than the grindhouse. I would argue what worse. I would argue what worse. Here's why. When I think of Ja Morant and I think of the Memphis Grizzlies, I think fast-paced. We're running up and down the floor.

I would venture to say that Ja Morant can run up the floor and back down the floor to at least the three-point line, maybe free throw line, before Zach Eady makes it down the floor once. I thought you were going to say, I would have had him, he's going to at least do that and then be halfway up the court, maybe beating Zach Eady before he gets there. Yeah, I had two and a half. Like two full and then one half court. Honestly, it's not outside the realm of possibility that if we have a race and you tell Ja Morant, you've got to make it up and down, and you just tell Zach Eady, you've got to make it up. Yep.

I think John – I would love to see the line on that. I think we're doing Eddie a big disservice. I know that he – He's a professional athlete. Right, because I think that in practice, this is where all this is going to get ironed out. He's going to have to go to practice every day with these folks. And Bane and all those tough – Brian Clark – Bruh. Brandon. Brandon Clark, my bad. I think that they're going to whip him into shape, no pun intended. Like, I think he's going to be better than he was at Purdue in this system. Can you teach him, like –

Can you teach him? Granted, he's going to maybe lose some weight to get faster. I guess that's one practical way. But his feet don't come off the ground. I don't know how you teach this. But also, aren't you taking away what makes him special? It's just a weird fit. If I slim him down, that's like now I'm taking away, oh, here he is running. We got him running at the combine. Can we? Come on. He runs like the guy from Happy Gilmore. Dude, if we. Come on, man. Jaws from. Come on.

I feel if we do the Rich Eisen and Dress Shoes run in the 40 next to him, Rich Eisen's pulling away. Wait.

He ain't going to have to do all of that, though. He's going to be sitting next to Ja Morant, high flying. He's going to have shooters around him. But I think he is going to have to do that because he is sitting next to Ja Morant and having high flyers around. Are they going to have like a four on five and Zach Eadie is just going to be hanging back? Like, you guys got this. Right. He was a top pick in the NBA draft. I feel like the Memphis Grizzlies organization have a plan for Zach Eadie, and I can't wait to see it take place. I'm going to tell you, I know it's not the same front office juju, but a decade and a half ago they took Hashim to beat, and we were like, what?

What the are you doing? We was in the war room in Phoenix, and I swear to God, the conversation we had before the draft was, if Hashim Tabeet falls to our second round pick, do we take him just on principle? Because we just looked at it, and this is 15 years ago. We were like, the way the NBA is going,

There's no place for a guy like that if you aren't this incredibly skilled dude. And so imagine our surprise when we saw him go number two overall, over James Harden, over Steph Curry, over Ricky Rubio. But I say all that to say, Zach Eaddy, one of the things I look at, I'm reminded of watching him play –

what was the kid, Dalil Okafor at Duke. And it's the same thing, it's like, you're big, you survive on being bigger than people. How skilled are you? Can you step out a little bit? Can you shoot? Are you a good passer? And it was like, no, no, no, I'm just big around the basket. And I'm like, okay, but that's not good enough.

Are you a dominant defensive player? Second, he's got more to work with than to beat does offensively. Oh, to beat, yes. But I'm saying Jaleel Okafor was a great college offensive player. But it's like in the NBA, the things that you're good at,

aren't as important i definitely don't understand what you mean doesn't it go against the bill that they kind of already have with john moran where they need him to get to the floor to get to the basket like i don't know all of a sudden you've got an eight foot guy standing in front of the basket there's like a scenario in which zach edie can be a pro i think i that's just like if you ask me what's the strangest landing spot for zach edie the one that makes the least sense i would have said memphis

So I don't know if it's going to work. I looked up to, by the way, the Carton Show is on on one of our TVs, and I looked up hoping that I'd see some soccer coverage. This is a Euro partner there. And I did see soccer coverage. It wasn't Greg Berhalter because I would love to know what Plaxico Burris thinks about all of this. But the lower third said, yes, Ronaldo's the best player in the world, but missing a PK and crying is a bad luck.

Miss me with the first four words of that lower third. What are we doing? What are we doing with Ronaldo as the best player in the world right now? I did get a lot of joy out of him missing that penalty. It was a great save by Oblak. Oh, by the way, secret of great saves. Slovenia, three in a row?

Three? I've never seen that in my life. They had a defenseman taking the second one. I've never seen a team play for PKs and then not have anyone that's able to make one. If your game plan going into it is we're going to go to PKs on this one and then anything can happen, you're at least semi-okay at it. I've never seen that, not even in middle school soccer. I've not seen at any level, at any stage in my life, we're going to do PKs. The first three? No.

We're going to get just stoned? I think you're more likely to cycle through the entire roster twice and have everybody make them, including the goalies, than what we saw miss three at the game. Three in a row. They got shut out in a PK. Ronaldo, best player in the world as well. We know, man.

He doesn't know? That's like saying Michael Jordan's the best player in the world. He's alive, technically. Well, not technically. He's very much alive. So until he dies, he is the best player in the world? It's like saying LeBron still is, no? It's like a pretty good comp. Not exactly. LeBron isn't the best player in the world right now. That's what I'm saying. It's like saying that right now. It's like someone saying he's definitely the best still. It is like that, only you're asking Plaxico Burris that question.

Summer's the best time to run the way you want. Dial it up with new challenges and programs and bring your workouts with you to make the most of outside sunny days. Stugatz, guess what? What? You know what you can do with Peloton? What? Get the app, go outside, ride a bike. Well, I thought you ride Peloton inside. Well, you do, you can ride Peloton inside if it's a rainy day or if it's cloudy or you just don't want to get outside, maybe it's too hot.

summertime, go outside. I record a lot from my office with you and you've noticed it's sitting there yet. It hasn't been used. Well, now's the time. Summer's the best time to start that push. Right. Can we do it together? Not on the same bike, but we could join a class together. I used to do that. We used to have Guillermo Tan. I'd invite people. We'd all take a class together. Okay. So I think you're starting to get concerned about my health and my age, Billy. I,

I sense that with you. We're beyond starting. Okay. Whatever road lies ahead, your training starts here with Peloton Tread and Tread Plus. It's not just a bike, a treadmill too. I'm going to go outside. I'm going to get in shape. I'm going to do it with Billy Gill. I want to be in your class. I want you to be my instructor. You know what? I won't be your instructor. You don't want to spend more time with me. No, I can schedule a class and we can ride together. I won't be the instructor of the class. We can have Camila could be our instructor. I like the Grateful Dead class. My daughter, she uses the Peloton. Mm-hmm.

She was on it once and an instructor who was playing Grateful Dead tunes. Let's do that. Okay. Why don't we go for a run outside? Guided run. Peloton. Me and you. That's something we can do together. Okay. Turn on the app. Me and you go outside. Enjoy the summer. Call yourself a runner with Peloton at onepeloton.com slash running. All right.

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