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Relisten to The Girlfriends S1, Ep 5: The Best Job a Lawyer Could Have

2024/12/20
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Carole Fisher: 本集主要讲述了Carole Fisher 和她的朋友们在1996年得知Bob Bierenbaum与新女友结婚后,以及随后冷案组介入调查后所经历的事件和思考。她们回顾了Bob的过去行为,以及她们当时对是否应该警告Bob新婚妻子的讨论和现在的反思。她们还讲述了通过社交媒体和当地居民了解Bob在北达科他州的生活,以及人们对他的评价褒贬不一。 Daniel Bibb 和 Stephen Sirocco: 作为曼哈顿地区检察官冷案凶杀案小组的成员,他们接手了Gail Katz Bierenbaum 的失踪案。他们描述了调查冷案的挑战,例如记忆的衰退、证人的死亡以及缺乏新的法医证据。他们也谈到了对家庭暴力态度的转变,以及这如何影响了对冷案的重新调查。 Andrew Rosenzweig: 作为最初调查Gail Katz Bierenbaum失踪案的负责人,他讲述了最初调查的困境以及他多年来一直坚信Bob Bierenbaum有罪。他决定在退休前将此案移交给冷案组。 Cindy Knisher: 作为曼哈顿地区检察官办公室的检察官,她分享了对家庭暴力案件的看法,以及在1985年,Gail报警称Bob勒死了她,但她的报案没有得到重视的原因。她解释了1994年《暴力侵害妇女法案》通过后,对家庭暴力案件处理方式的改变。 Elaine Katz: 作为Gail的妹妹,她讲述了在1998年接到地区检察官办公室电话,告知他们要重新调查姐姐案件的经历。她还谈到了最初调查中的一些疏忽,例如没有与曼哈顿警察局或纽约市法医进行沟通。 Harriet Epstein: 作为Bob在Minot的熟人,她分享了她对Bob的印象,认为他很聪明但对女性很诡异,眼神让人感觉不舒服。她还讲述了Bob对关于他是否结过婚的问题的防御性且含糊其辞的回答。 Carole Fisher: 本集通过对Bob Bierenbaum案件的重新调查,探讨了家庭暴力、冷案侦破以及社会对家庭暴力认识的转变。通过多位当事人和相关人员的叙述,展现了案件的复杂性和多面性,以及对受害者和家属的影响。

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Why did Bob move to Minot, North Dakota?

Bob moved to Minot, North Dakota to take a lucrative job at a hospital and start a new life with his new fiancée, Janet.

What was the cause of Gail's death according to her death certificate?

The cause of Gail's death was listed as 'undetermined,' with 'torso with homicide' written and circled underneath.

How did the community in Minot, North Dakota perceive Bob?

The community in Minot, North Dakota saw Bob as a highly skilled doctor and a valued member of both the medical and Jewish communities. He was known for his multilingual abilities and his homemade bagels.

What was the reaction of the Manhattan DA's cold case unit to Gail's case?

The Manhattan DA's cold case unit, led by Daniel Bibb and Stephen Sirocco, agreed to review Gail's case after being convinced by Andy Rosenzweig that Bob was likely responsible for her death.

What significant change in the justice system helped Gail's case gain attention in the late 90s?

The passing of the Violence Against Women Act in 1994, which allocated $1.6 billion towards investigating and prosecuting violent crimes against women, helped shift attitudes and improve the handling of domestic violence cases.

How did Bob's behavior as a doctor in Minot, North Dakota differ from his public persona?

While Bob was highly regarded as a doctor, some patients and colleagues described him as unpredictable and overly judgmental, with a tendency to become angry quickly.

What was the Tarasov letter in Gail's case?

The Tarasov letter was written by Bob's psychiatrist, Dr. Michael Stone, warning Gail that she was in danger and should leave the house, indicating concerns about Bob's behavior.

Why was Gail's case initially difficult to prosecute in the 1980s?

In the 1980s, domestic violence was not taken as seriously as it is today, and there were no dedicated domestic violence units within the police or DA's office to follow up on complaints like Gail's.

What was the significance of the tiger attack case in Minot, North Dakota?

Bob gained local fame in Minot for performing emergency surgery on a young boy who was attacked by a tiger at the North Dakota State Fair, showcasing his medical skills.

How did the Manhattan DA's cold case unit approach Gail's case?

The cold case unit, led by Dan and Steve, started by reviewing all past files, contacting key witnesses, and traveling extensively to gather new evidence, focusing on the changing attitudes towards domestic violence.

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Bob, after a messy breakup, calls the speaker for marriage advice, then moves to Minot, ND for a job. The speaker and her friends discuss whether to warn Bob's new fiancee about his past. Later investigation reveals Bob was well-liked in the community, known for his multilingual skills and bagel baking.
  • Bob moved to Minot, North Dakota after a breakup and subsequent engagement.
  • He was well-regarded by many in Minot, known for his language skills and bagel baking.
  • His marriage to Janet seemed happy, but some accounts reveal his unpredictable anger.

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Relisten to Season 1 of The Girlfriends.

Bob moves again, but this time to the sleepy midwestern town of Minot, North Dakota.  For Carole and Mindy it seems like Bob might be getting away with it, until some prosecutors from the Manhattan DA’s cold case unit turn up in Vegas.  

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