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With Pat and Stu. Great to have you with us. We are on the precipice of Independence Day. Oh! July 3rd already. Wow. Somali? I thought Somali and Independence Day passed a couple days ago. Yeah, it did. We were reminded about that by Ilhan Omar. Right. So you're right. So why? It's over. We're done. Okay. So never mind. That's the important one. There's also, I guess, an American one, too. That's the big one. I've heard. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

But because we're all Somalia first, we had to celebrate Somalia. To be fair, it does occur first. It does. A couple of days earlier. All right. We got to talk about the big, beautiful bill because it looks like it's going to pass. But there's a hurdle or two to get over before that actually happens. Will it happen today? You know, on the deadline of 4th of July? We'll see.

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Pat and Stu. It's a big day. A lot going on. Including the big, beautiful bill. President Trump was a little unhappy overnight because there were some GOP holdouts on the bill. So he started to threaten people with, I guess, truth socials. I'm going to truth social you if you don't get on board here.

And I think that was enough. And here's the thing. It always works. Every time. Every time he does it, it just works. Yeah. And, you know, you can take from that what you will. We mentioned this the other day.

That like, I think it's outdated to be sitting here with this like, well, Republicans are stopping, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This GOP, the establishment is in the way. Where? Where is there evidence of this anymore? There was evidence of this in 2017. Sure.

But like Donald Trump, this is Donald Trump's party and they do what he says. That's, that's, they do. That's the end of the story. Like there are a few people who will hold out here and there against what he says. And we see what happens with that. Like with like Tom Tillis, who's like, I'm not going to vote for this. Oh yeah. We're going to primary you. I'm already quitting. Yeah.

Like that, that was, it was like an eight minute timeframe where all of that occurred the other day. It's like, all right. You know? And like, I think a lot of good outcomes come from that process, frankly. You know, a lot of times the opposition and, you know, the GOP and the establishment is there and it hurts these bills and, and stops things that are really positive. But like,

We're kind of fooling ourselves here. What occurs is Donald Trump says he wants something from Republicans and then Republicans give him the thing that he wants. There might be little addendums and quirks and little holdouts and drama, which we can go through. We can go through the drama overnight. There was plenty of it. But at the end of the day...

He's going to get what he wants. He gets the thing that he wants. Yeah. At two in the morning, he was out on Truth Social saying, largest tax cuts in history and a booming economy versus biggest tax increase in history and a failed economy. What are Republicans waiting for? What are you trying to prove? MAGA is not happy and it's costing you votes. Then he posted again.

All caps. That's another level. So he yelled at him on true social. For Republicans, this should be an easy yes vote. Ridiculous. The pressure campaign appeared to work. Hours later. It always works. Republicans voted 219 to 213 to advance the bill.

Yeah, I mean, this is... There you go. Trump, I think, loves this scenario. He loves jumping in and... He does. He loves to fight. Yeah, and he likes being able to get what he wants, right? And the fact that he is, I mean, quite clearly the most powerful person in the world. I think certainly in my lifetime. And even more than...

you know, typical presidents, as you're noting here. It's not, this is not like, I don't know, George W. Bush, who constantly had people saying he couldn't do the things that he wanted to do. You know, we mentioned the privatizing Social Security thing. Right. And a lot of things he wanted to do didn't happen. Didn't happen. It just didn't happen. He put all of his weight behind it and it just didn't occur. Didn't matter. By the way, it would have been great if it did, but it didn't. Here is a situation when Trump does this, and I think this is,

largely speaking to Trump's abilities in this role, which is he doesn't care about being mean. He doesn't care about twisting arms. He doesn't care about what your little problems are or what ideological issue you have with what he wants. No, he doesn't. He just tells you to do it and you do it. And that is the party. You got a problem with your constituents? Tough. Tough. Do it. Yeah. Just do it or I primary you and you won't have a job. I mean, that's...

You know, I almost, in some ways, it would be more dramatic if it were like House of Cards, where he was holding affairs over people's heads. I don't even think it's that. I just think it's... I don't think so. He's holding truth social over their heads. That would have been a really terrible series. Yeah, it would have. You know, you're watching Netflix and Kevin Spacey's like, I'm going to truth social you if you don't. Okay, okay. I'll jump in front of the subway. Like, you know, I... Yeah. But that is what seems to occur. Yeah.

And I mean, I think in this particular instance, there's a lot of good in this bill. Look, there are things we can complain about and we have complained about them. I don't think it's a great bill. I don't think Trump even believes it's a great bill. I think what he believes is, is it needs to get done because you need large elements of it are good and those things need to occur. So he is willing to, as a negotiator, put up with a bunch of stuff that he probably wouldn't prefer to be in this bill.

But he doesn't have that. He doesn't have that like need to point it out. You know, like a lot of these guys that that are in the Freedom Caucus are going to like, well, what about this? This spending? You got to fix this. You got to fix this. And then they just kind of fold at the end where, you know, Trump is. He doesn't have that in him where he's like, I need to note that there are problems with this bill. He doesn't do that. He just says it's the best thing ever.

And he's always done that. This is what he did with hotels back in the day. This is what he did, you know, what he says about Mar-a-Lago. Like, I'm sure there's a bathroom that's, I don't know, maybe it's a little, it's inconveniently placed inside of the establishment. And someone, you could say, you know, I really love this place. I wish that bathroom was a little closer to the main dining hall, but yeah, whatever. He doesn't do that. No. He just says it's perfect. And look, it works.

It really does. Should we go through some of the minute by minute stuff here? Yeah. Pat, I thought it was interesting. This is from a punch bowl. One of those Washington insider email newsletters. It does look like Mike Johnson and Donald Trump will make their July 4th deadline. That's another thing that we've been talking about on this. The July 4th deadline is not a real deadline. It was just a deadline that basically, again, Donald Trump just said, I want it done by this day.

And so it is now going to be done today, which is July 3rd. Assuming Hakeem Jeffries, who is speaking right now, stops speaking at some point. That is the addendum to the thing. Here's a little bit of how he started out. To have a robust debate, passionate support, or passionate opposition. This gets truly agonizing. In connection with this bill. Ugh.

that hundreds of members on both sides of the aisle could participate in. Instead, we have a limited debate where the relevant committees of jurisdiction have been given 15 minutes each on a bill of such significant magnitude as it relates to the health, the safety, and the well-being of the American people.

Does it relate to the health of the American people? Does it? Well, I'm not sure. Well, Medicaid cuts. Millions of people are going to lose health insurance. Which, no. I don't think that's accurate. Even if it is, their prediction is basically that people won't file the correct paperwork. Yeah. It's, come on. Which is funny because, you know. It's bogus. Pat, as you've

talked about for many years. The Democrats just hate red tape. Oh, man. They just are opposed to a lot of paperwork. They want your experience with the government to go as easily and smoothly as possible. That's what they're all about. Yeah. So dumb. Sure. So ridiculous. Because that debate was so limited.

So limited. Yeah, there's no debate over this bill. Months and months and months of debate. I feel the obligation, Mr. Speaker, to stand on this House floor and take my sweet time to tell the stories of the American people. Take your time delaying the government. Good job, everybody. And that's exactly what I intend to do. He intends to do it. He's going to take his sweet time. Take my sweet time. Sweet time. Yeah.

On behalf of the American people. Oh, okay. On behalf of their health care. Health care, what? On behalf of their Medicaid. Their Medicaid, again, that's what he's talking about. The cuts in Medicaid, which are non-existent. I mean, it's a paperwork thing. On behalf of their nutritional assistance. Nutritional assistance. On behalf of veterans. Veterans. What is that? Is there a veteran thing?

segment to this bill? I haven't even heard of that. On behalf of farmers. On behalf of children. Children. Well, the ones, the few children that they don't

before they're born. Yeah, occasionally some of them get through the whole process, unfortunately. A few of them escape. Escape the womb. The abortion people and their incredible worship at the altar of abortions. Some of the babies have moments like in The Matrix where the bullets are flying at them. They dodge the tools of the abortion and somehow escape the womb. He's fighting on behalf of those. Those few that get through that.

Okay.

Okay, so it'll be interesting to see how long he can go. That is the rule, by the way. He gets to speak as long as he wants. So yeah, I know it's not like some of these filibusters where you can kind of just leave and he has to actually just keep going. So he's got and he can't turn it over to other people. Can he?

No, I think it's just him. Yeah, I think it's... Yeah, so he's on his own. He's been just reading, like, different testimonials of people. Like, what about Bill? Bill Schnagdenfergen, who lives in Pocatello, Idaho. Oh, it's the Idaho Schnagdenfergens. You know them? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Love that family. Good family. And they are not going to want to file the extra piece of paperwork to say they're looking for a job, so they're going to lose their Medicaid. Yeah.

All right. Well, maybe they should have filed the extra paperwork. Maybe. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I get... Is it... Think about what the Republicans are trying to do. And we'll get into the minute by minute of this here in a second. But like, think of what the Republicans are trying to do with the work requirements, right? We all know... We probably all know individuals who have gone on a government program and could have gotten off of that government program and decided not to because...

Why would I? If you know someone who's been on unemployment, who stays on it maybe a few weeks longer because they're getting paid to do nothing, right? That doesn't mean everyone who's on unemployment or everyone who's on Medicaid doesn't need it or whatever. That's not true at all. I understand that there's a lot of people in need and having tough times. We just came through a president who destroyed a lot of people's lives, frankly, when it comes to the economy. So I know people are going through tough times.

But like we all know that that's not everybody. And the effort here is to say, hey, if you're going to get this and you're able bodied and you're within the age of normal working, you know, working age adults, you have to show a little bit of effort to get yourself off of it.

Right? And that just means, hey, like, are you going to pursue a job? Or are you sitting home collecting these benefits, you know, playing PlayStation all day? And that, like, I understand. It's not everybody. It's completely reasonable. It doesn't mean that everybody who's on a program is a bad person doing that. But, like, it's an important thing to address, like,

that type of situation to make sure it doesn't get abused. Another one is the disability program. There's been tons of reporting on places like 60 Minutes where these roles have grown and grown and grown and people who were never intended to be on a disability program are now on it. Yeah, it's not like

Nobody's ever heard of the abuse in these programs. Right. It's widely reported. With abuse. Right. And everybody knows it. I mean, billions, hundreds of billions, probably over years time, hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars of abuse. And so is it really outrageous to try to clean some of that up? Of course not. No. It makes perfect sense. But that's a Medicaid cut to these people. Yeah. It's silly. It's ridiculous. It's silly. It's asinine. All right. Triple eight, seven, two, seven B.C.K. More coming up. One minute.

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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn 888-727-BECK. All right. So the big, beautiful bill. Okay. So there's two votes that basically needed to happen. There was some procedural vote and leading into the final vote. We are currently in between those two votes. We're waiting for the final vote. The procedural thing went well. It advanced. Yeah. Here's how it went. Last chapter of the drama over the last 24 hours had more twists and turns in the final episode of White Lotus, which I guess is a more current episode.

than House of Cards. Yes. My House of Cards reference. But I've never watched it. No, I never have either. No, I never have either. Around 3.20 a.m., after holding the vote open for nearly six hours while Johnson and Trump lobbied them furiously, several hardline conservative holdouts voted to move forward with the measure. This is incredible. I mean, you won't believe some of the holdouts. Some of the names are pretty interesting. Yeah. Ending the dramatic floor stalemate. The holdouts included ref Josh Brasheen,

Eric Burleson, Keith Self, Scott Perry, Bob Onder, Andy Harris, and Chip Roy. Now we had Chip Roy on the show the other day. He was very much against what happened in the Senate. He had voted for the House version of it.

It was against the Senate version of it. And he... Did he not say he would not vote for it? He said he would not vote for it. What makes it... This goes on to this. What makes it so remarkable is that Harris, Roy, and Self spent a huge chunk of this week dumping all over the bill, only to vote for it with absolutely no changes a day later. Yeah.

It's incredible. Again, Donald Trump. Again, I get it. It's the power of Donald Trump. Yes, we all know what's happening here. Yeah. Roy went as far to say that he wouldn't vote for a rule at all and indicated he wanted to revise the package and send it back to the Senate. That's not going to happen now. We've made, I love this, we made some progress on fiscal issues, Self told us early this morning. The bill is exactly the same.

What do you mean you made progress? He's got to say that, though, to save face. Yeah, that's what I got to do, I guess. This is Washington today. Yeah. And again, we should just recognize this is what it is. It's a difficult place for everybody, I suppose. The House Freedom Caucus caved once again, it's according to Punchbowl. They will lose a tremendous amount of sway in the wake of this episode. That's a bad thing.

outcome because the Freedom Caucus is a good influence on these bills typically and I think this is accurate though because when you say you're gonna not vote for something and then you fold with no changes it's your credibility some credibility much of the conversation overnight centered around the implementation of the bill the nation's fiscal trajectory and what kinds of executive orders the Trump administration might issue to so age their concerns of conservatives and you may see some of that right like Trump may have said hey

if you vote for this bill as is i'll give you an executive order on this like there's so there's usually something that happens if you remember pat going back a long time there was a situation like this with obamacare where there was one or two i think it was one representative on the democratic side that it wouldn't come along because he just was against funding abortion right remember this i can't remember the guy's name i can't either pennsylvania yeah and

And we'll get it in the break. But he got screwed immediately. Yeah. They immediately promised something and immediately broke the promise. Yeah. It was basically like Obama will come out and he'll make an executive order, executive statement of some sort saying X, Y, and Z won't happen. He did that, I believe. But then it just immediately happened anyway. It meant nothing. Yep. Johnson said the Senate made more changes than I anticipated. Yep.

Thomas Massey was a one-man roller coaster for the GOP leadership. Thomas Massey. Massey railed against the bill all week. He initially voted for the rule to advance it. Then around 1130 p.m., Massey entered a mostly empty House chamber and switched his vote from yes to no. However, Massey, who Trump has personally targeted for defeat in 2026, switched back again to yes when all the other hardliners flipped.

That was this morning. He said, make clear he would like Trump to stop attacking him. Surprising yes votes on the procedural vote included David Valdeo from California who represents a district chock full of Medicaid recipients. He voted for the motion at 1120 as most of the members were already gone.

So it looks like it's going to happen. It's just a matter of Hakeem Jeffries shutting up at some point, and then the bill should go forward and get passed before the deadline. This is Glenn Beck.

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Glenn's newsletter exists. Sign up at glennbeck.com. Hey, it's Pat and Stu for Glenn. 888-727-BECK. A big, beautiful bill being delayed right now. The final vote on the bill.

will take place as soon as Hakeem Jeffries stops yapping. It's been going on, I think since 6 Eastern, so about an hour and a half or so. And he promises to keep going as long as he possibly can. So we'll see how long he can continue and delay the vote on this bill. Meantime, let's go to Gordon in Florida. Hey, Gordon, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.

Hey, thank you for taking my call. Listen, I want to let you know that I do not wish to be disrespectful to President Trump, the Republicans or the Democrats, but all three have not kept their word. First, Trump promised to end the Department of Ed that he's keeping the student lending arm and the Republicans have not obeyed page 35 of the Republican platform, which prohibits my tax dollars used for student loans and the Democrats.

they have student loan bankruptcy in their platform and they have not kept their word. So in our grandparents' time, they had no student loans, especially on my tax dollar. Okay, no fifth grader has student loans, no other country has student loans, and college is now becoming unaffordable. And we cannot afford to send people to college, okay? So without bankruptcy legislation,

return for student loans, which Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 calls for, uniform bankruptcy code, it's not going to force... There's nothing to force down the Department of Ed. And every time I hear someone say, oh, those students shouldn't have bankruptcy, that reminds me of Nancy Pelosi. Oh, I want Second Amendment rights for me and my private security, but you commoners can't have it. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 calls for student loans to be uniform, just like every other loan. And...

The most important thing, and I need to apologize to Trump, is that the golden rule says that the way you want to treat other people is the way you should be treated. And so I owe Trump a big apology because he wants bankruptcy defense for himself, but not for students. Okay? And so if student loan bankruptcy is not returned like it was in our grandparents' time, there's going to be nothing to force the Department of Ed...

And the lobbyists back, we're going to keep spending. It's going to cost the tax. The student loan middleman and the health insurance middleman, Trump promised to get rid of. He is not ending the Department of Ed. I want Trump and the Democrats both to succeed. But without bankruptcy returning to student loans, there will be no force under heaven that will stop the Department of Ed from ripping off students, taxpayers, and making college unaffordable. It will rip off patients too. Gordon, thank you. Appreciate the call. I think, you know –

I think he meant, first of all, Trump and the Republicans to succeed. If he wants Trump and the Democrats to succeed, it's going to be a difficult road. But what I will say, I want the government out of the student loan business. I don't think they should be involved in it. I think it's been a terrible experiment. And it was obviously a massively abused show by Joe Biden to make it much, much worse. But I want to focus on something else that he said, Pat. It is not disrespectful to Donald Trump

to have a question about one of his policies. No, it's okay. You don't have to apologize to Donald Trump for thinking that one of his policies isn't the way you'd want it to be. This is actually how our country is supposed to work. You don't have to agree with everything that he says. It's totally fine. You shouldn't feel the need to apologize to him for having a question, a problem, an issue with one of his policies.

You know, I don't think that he expects that. Right. Like, you know, don't call up and say if you've got a problem with the bill, give us a call. 888-727-BECK. It's not a personal affront to a guy that you probably voted for. That's okay. If he's the president of the United States, he can take it. Every person I've ever voted for in my entire life, I've had policy disagreements with. Oh, my gosh. Every single time. In fact, unless you are a person who has actually run for office...

That's got to be true for everybody. And honestly, as we saw with some of the votes overnight, a lot of these representatives disagree with their own positions. The only person that...

That I can't disagree with. And he's not currently reigning in the office of the presidency would be Jesus. Okay. Yeah. And I would agree with everything he says, everything he does. He went easily. I would, I think. Just follow him. Not in a Democratic primary. Short of Jesus, however. Everybody else is subject to being fallible. Yeah.

We all make mistakes and nobody's perfect and we don't worship Donald Trump. We just like him because he's done a pretty good job so far. Take the things that you like and you say, hey, these are good. Yeah. And you take the things that you don't like and you say, hey, these aren't great. I wish he'd changed that. I wish he'd changed that. And you know, by the way, Donald Trump has shown...

that at times he will hear what the American people say, particularly as supporters and change on policies. That's happened many, many times since he's been in office. So, you know, everybody gets so, everyone gets so worked up about this stuff. Mm-hmm.

I mean, now you could hear it in his voice. Like, I mean, he was worked up and it's like, it's okay to just think that you think the student loan thing sucks. That's all right. There's a bunch, there's a, by the way, to his point, there's a bunch of money in this bill for student loans. And if you're getting rid of the department of education, it,

It is an issue. Now, I will tell you, do I want the Department of Education to go away? Yes. Yeah. Have we had Linda McMahon on who told us that they were working toward that end? And we had multiple officials from the Trump administration on to say that they all say that. Do I think that's going to happen? The answer is no.

Do I want it to happen? Yes. Do I think that there are people there working to try to make it happen? Yes. Do I think the four year period will end with no Department of Education in standing? My answer to that would be no. I don't believe that that's going to happen. I will root for it. I don't think it's necessarily that they don't want it to occur. But also, if it doesn't happen under Trump, it's not going to.

That's my humble prediction. If it doesn't happen under President Trump, it won't happen. Let me change one word to your statement there, Pat, and see if you still agree. If it doesn't happen under President Reagan, then it's not going to happen. Right. I mean, this is before it was codified. Yeah. And, you know, they...

Reagan ran on wanting to get rid of it. And I think he really did, but it still didn't happen. No, it's very difficult to get these. This is why, this is why I post things like these accounts that go to babies for a thousand dollars. Once they get started, they're almost impossible to get rid of. Right. And that, you know, it's just the reality of the way this, this country works, unfortunately. Yep. So that's where we are. Let's go to Jackie in North Carolina. Hey, Jackie, welcome. Thank you.

Thank you, Pat. I wanted to say that I think that paying taxes shows respect to those who are community helpers. And I think seniors, based on their assets, should pay taxes on Social Security. And I hope people can consider hiring us. I also think we should trade some lazy Americans for some motivated people that come here that want to work.

You're saying it for legal immigration? Is that what you're talking about? I think we should consider, like, you've got a month to get your stuff together, or we'll just trade you out for somebody else for a short period of time. And then when you get your you-know-what off your... Yeah. I like the self-editing there. That was great, Jackie. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, that's one of the parts of the bill, which was a promise from Donald Trump during...

that he would not tax Social Security. And there's two ways to look at this. It is weird, right, that the government has this program where they give you a bunch of money and then they themselves tax the money they've given you, right? It's kind of a weird process. Very weird. Well, because Social Security is a tax that's taken out of your paycheck your whole life. Yes, you're taxed. And then you're taxed again when they return some of it to you. Yeah, it's weird. It doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense. One of those double taxes that really pisses me off. Yeah, it's very strange, frankly. But I mean, again, you know, this is it was a promise made by President Trump. I think, you know, I am not a fan of these little carve out tax cuts. I don't like a tax system that does that. And I think it's certainly been like.

Generally speaking, the consensus for conservatives for a long time was to try to avoid doing that when possible. Yeah. That's why, you know, the no taxes on tips thing is not... I don't... It's not going to get me all riled up. It's a very small part of this bill. Yeah. It was a promise that Donald Trump made to win Nevada. It was him purchasing the state of Nevada in the election. By the way, I really wanted him to win the state of Nevada. So I liked the outcome of that. And it worked, right? He won the state of Nevada. That being said...

it doesn't make much sense to me as a guy. I used to, I worked in a restaurant and Pat back in the day. Yeah. I rocked it at Chili's, uh, for, for some time. And, you know, I, of course, was one of the star servers, uh, just delivering, um, awesome blossoms and chicken crispers to folks all across the, uh, the, uh, South Florida area at the time. Um, and, uh,

I was getting tip money. Now, of course, one of the things you'll note, and of course, I never participated in this, but not everybody claims all their tips anyway. I got news for you. If you've ever worked at a restaurant, the tip thing, there's already a lot of no taxes on tips going on. That's part one. Part two is...

As I worked out in the front, you know, getting tips, the people who were making the Awesome Blossoms and the Chicken Crispers... Didn't get the tips? They didn't get the tips. Now, there was some tip sharing. I don't remember exactly how that worked. But generally speaking, they were more hourly than you are when you're working as a server. You're getting money in tips. And do they get more because they're not being tipped? Higher hourly. Higher hourly wage. But it is strange, right, that they would get taxed on their income while the servers would not. Yeah.

True. You know, it's a strange policy that was specifically put in for a very specific campaign reason. That is what it was. Do I hate it? I don't hate tax cuts. I'm glad, you know, servers, as we pointed out yesterday, strippers, people who get tipped, I'm glad they get to keep more of their money, whatever, right? And it's not unlimited and there's a lot of qualifications to it. You know, the same thing, you know, I could say that for a bunch of these different clauses.

And when it comes to no taxes on tips and no taxes on seniors, social security, which they didn't quite exactly do that way, but it's no point in getting into the details. The bottom line though, is like, I like broad based tax cuts. You know, I don't think we should necessarily be trying to micromanage behaviors, trying to say, oh, well these people with this income get this. And like that, I think is a bad road that leads to lots of lobbying and campaign promising and things that are made for decisions that are not economic.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. So I it's not my preference, but it's not the worst thing in the world. I'm not going to lose my mind over it. I will say this. There's no pleasing Democrats on this because on the one hand, all of the tax cuts were for the wealthiest Americans. The wealthiest 1% were the ones who got the tax cuts.

Despite the fact that every single wage earner in America got tax cuts under Donald Trump. And if they don't pass this bill, we're all going to get a tax increase. So that's one of the reasons it's important for him to pass the bill. But so they hated the tax cuts to begin with. And now AOC, who is a stinking socialist, and we all know that, is calling the tax on tips, no tax on tips, a scam. So...

so which is so weird it is so bizarre by the way the democrats immediately adopted that policy and supported it throughout the campaign it was a campaign promise of kamala harris as well because she just took it right copied it right like yes so he trump gets credit for it because it was his idea but she also supported it and the bill passed there was a bill on no tax on tips that passed i think 100 to 0 and now it's a scam now it's a scam okay okay fine unbelievable

The other one was no tax on overtime was the other promise that he made. I was trying to remember. That one's going to cost about three times as much as no tax on tips. Oh. And again, like in concept, people working hard, working extra hours. But again, it's not a cost.

It's not a cost. I should point out. Yes, that is true. We went through that yesterday and I agree with that. But the no tax and overtime thing is in a vacuum, right? You're working an hourly job. You go over 40 hours. You get overtime. There's no tax on that. You love it, right? Yes. If your situation remains exactly the same, you love it. Now, of course, economists are like, well, the economy will react to that. And so what they believe will happen, at least with some employers, is that they will lower taxes

wages and then say to essentially justify it by saying, well, you're getting more in overtime now. So, you know, you will, it will even out or you'll still make more, but we'll get to pay less. And,

There is all sorts of economic outcomes that come out of these policies, which is why you try to avoid these little bits and pieces and slices and just instead go broad based. But again, you know, it's not going to make me cry. I'm not going to stay up at night being like, you know, gosh, no tax on tips isn't the optimal tax policy. I'm glad some people get a little bit more of their money. Hopefully we'll see what happens with it. 888-727-BECK. What you're hearing are your thoughts via the mind and mouth of Glenn Beck.

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It's Pat and Stu. Great to have you with us. We did touch on this yesterday, but I'd like to reinforce it today because when your liberal son-in-law comes over to your barbecue tomorrow or on Saturday and starts complaining about the cost or the $5 trillion debt that the tax cuts, making the tax cuts permanent is going to cause, you can tell them that it's not a cost. It doesn't increase the debt.

So that is just me keeping more of my money. It's not the government's money to begin with. It is my money, and they're just taking less of it. And what it also does when tax cuts happen is increase revenue every single time. I don't know if there's ever been a tax cut that hasn't increased the revenue. Depends on how long you want to wait, right? And what their argument is on this one is...

Oh, well, it's not as high as it would have been with the taxes being higher. And it's like, well, I mean, obviously these are counterfactuals. We don't, we can't have multiple societies running at the same time. The point though is why don't they just freaking control their spending? If like, let's say this, Pat, if they cut our, that's not going to happen. If they cut our taxes to zero, it took $0 in. Right. Right. They would, uh, they would have, uh,

All spending would be debt, right? Mm-hmm.

That is what they're doing, separate from what we're doing. Right. If they take all of our money, they'd have lots and lots of money. But if they increase the spending past what we gave them, it would still be debt. However, if they took all of our money, the economy wouldn't be that great. No? You know? Yeah. No. I don't know. It'd be really, really bad. Look at how the Soviet Union is thriving. Oh, wow. They're doing great. Wow.

Aren't they, though? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I haven't heard from them in a while, but... Not like 34 years or so it's been. Yeah. Really since the early 90s? We'll have to check on them. Yeah. Somebody put a mirror up to their nose and see if they're still breathing. Wellness check. This is Glenn Beck. This was shocking to me. I'm going to be on after this program with Megyn Kelly. Oh. What?

What is Megyn Kelly doing working on July 3rd? That's a really good question. That's a really good question. I'm going to answer my first question to her in the interview. I mean, you could say the same thing about us. Right. But it's, for her, it's even more. But I mean, technically on this show, I obviously am on the show regularly. You have your show Pat Gray Unleashed. But Pat Gray Unleashed is not airing today. That's true. Sudas America is not airing today. We are filling in here on this particular program. Yes. And Megyn's just like rocking her normal show on July 3rd. Crazy. Crazy.

I mean. That's crazy. There's a lot of news going on. You know, I know Glenn would love to be here to talk about it as well. But like, I guess maybe that's it. Something came up. Yeah, he's busy. I guess something came up. He's busy. He's busy. Unlike Hillary. Right. Who does care? Oh, oh, oh, oh.

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I certainly didn't. I did not. I didn't see this one coming. This is great. You know, we were just talking last hour about how powerful President Trump is. Here's another indication of that. To get an apology and a change in policy out of the University of Pennsylvania is...

You know, probably helps that he attended the University of Pennsylvania, too. I don't know. He went to the Wharton Business School at UPenn. So maybe that had something to do with it. Maybe, but he's had this situation with other Ivy League schools. I mean, this is not this is not uncommon. He's just plain winning a lot of these issues, especially the last month or so. He has won virtually every showdown that he has faced.

But transgender athletes at the University of Pennsylvania will no longer be able to compete for the school's women's teams. What a concept. Following a new agreement between the university and the U.S. Department of Education, the university will also strip transgender competitors of historical credit for past accomplishments in the form of program awards or records.

So all the times when Leah Thomas beat females in competitions and she won a national championship in swimming, that goes away. Now, I don't know if the NCAA is going to do the same thing. I kind of doubt it. I don't think they have yet. But as far as UPenn is concerned, it didn't happen. They've taken all of that away and gone.

And so they've changed the records under the agreement. They agreed to restore to female athletes, all individual Penn division one swimming records, titles, or similar recognitions, which were misappropriated by male athletes allowed to compete in female categories. I don't, I don't know how many male athletes have competed at UPenn other than Leah Thomas, but they say athletes plural here.

Today's resolution agreement with UPenn is yet another example of the Trump effect in action. Thanks to the leadership of President Trump, Penn has agreed to both apologize for its past Title IX violations and to ensure that women's sports are protected at the university for future generations of female athletes. Today is a great victory for women and girls, not only at the University of Pennsylvania, but all across our nation.

Pretty stunning, really. Pretty stunning. Sure is. Sure is, especially when there's no scientific evidence whatsoever that males are better at sports than females. Right. There's no reason to do this because here's a woman competing against other women.

Right? Right. Yeah, she used to be a man, but that gives her no special advantage. And was she ever really a man? That's my question, Pat. Because, you know, she was certainly born in the wrong body. Oh, thank you. Okay. She was born in the wrong body. Thank you for acknowledging that. Exactly. And actually...

Actually, the real crime... Was forced to compete against men for a time. That's the crime. And didn't do well there. No. Like, last place in competitions. It wasn't good at all. Why? Because it was a she. She. He was a she. But we should also note, there's no difference. There's no... We should note that. We should note that. There's no difference whatsoever. No scientific evidence at all. No. Has ever been produced...

I've got some circumstantial sort of... Oh, gosh. Here we go. Situational... Can we do some science? Evidence. All right. Give me your anecdotal evidence, quote unquote. Okay. Yes. This is all anecdotal. You're right. I've never noticed it. I've never noticed it in my entire life. That there's any difference between men and women in sports? No difference at all. That's been my experience, but maybe you have some evidence that will change my mind. Well, we've just...

recently seen the total destruction of the women's Swiss national soccer team who lost to an under 15. So these are 14 and under boys and they just beat the women's Swiss national team 7-1, which...

Is a brutal beating in soccer. One to nothing is a brutal beating in soccer. Seven to one is like... The worst defeat in the history of the sport. It's like 150 to nothing in football. Yes.

In the first quarter. Yes. Yes. That's what it feels like. Seven goals. And people don't realize this, but in the entire history of MLS, Major League Soccer, there has never been seven goals scored. If you add up all the games. Oh, you add them all together? Yes. Yes. You add up all the games together. There have never been seven goals.

Wow. So it's even worse than I thought, but that doesn't mean anything because it's just anecdotal. Right. Anecdotal. Well, in 2017, you might remember the U.S. Women's National Team. The U.S. Women's National Team. A good team. You'd think a high-level team for women. High-level. Like number one in the world. Okay, number one. Number one in the world at the time. Lost to the FC Dallas Boys Under 15 team. Under 15 years old, they lost 5-2.

Which, again, is another slaughter. Destruction. Yes. Yes. Five to two. Five to two. To the under 15-year-olds. And what was the qualifier? The Dallas? The FC Dallas boys team. FC. So not the national team. It's not even a state team. It's a FC Dallas. Dallas team. Under 15-year-old. Which I'm sure they're really good. I'm sure they are.

Again, if Pat and I put together a squad of... We put Steve Dace and Jason Whitlock and Glenn Beck on a team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you know... They'd probably beat us. They'd kick our ass. The women's soccer team would probably beat us. However, that's not how the comparison should go, you'd think. You'd think that... You'd want...

To show that there was an advantage, you almost wonder why do these women's teams agree to these contests? I know. Why? The reason they do it is to train against good competition. Right.

This probably does help improve their performance. Now, why would it help? That's the thing. There's no scientific evidence. I don't know why they think it would help them. That's stupid. I don't know. It's dumb to want to play against boys. Maybe it's just soccer. Maybe that's not a good example. Let's go to tennis.

Okay. Let's talk about Serena Williams. Yeah. Wow. She's fantastic. One of the best tennis players of all time. Number one tennis player in the world. She's probably the greatest female tennis player of all time. Arguably. Yeah. I think Navratilova, Graf. Navratilova, Chris Everett, you know, Billie Jean King, Steffi Graf. There's a few. They've got a case. She's up there. You can make the case that she's top five. Sure. Certainly all time. Definitely, yeah.

She was the number one player in the world when she was on David Letterman's show to talk about because David Letterman brought up the number one men's player in the world. And

And here's what she said. Men's tennis and women's tennis are completely almost two separate sports. So I'm like, if I were to play Andy Murray, I would lose 6-0, 6-0 in five to six minutes, maybe 10 minutes. In five to six minutes, maybe 10 minutes, she loses 6-0, 6-0. No, it's true. It's a completely...

it's a completely different sport. The men are a lot faster. Wait, what? And they serve harder, they hit harder. It's just a different game. It's so amazing. There's so much about that clip. You've played it before, probably years ago now. Yep. But it had been a while since I've heard it. What's interesting about it is like,

she's completely comfortable admitting it. Talking about it. She knows. She's saying something that she believes is very obvious. She's not pretending that women are the same as men. She's not even pretending. And she's not like a hardcore conservative, we should point out. Oh, no. But like, what's interesting also about it is both David Letterman and seemingly the audience are very uncomfortable with her making this point.

They were. Wait a minute. Even in 2013. Are we allowed to agree with this? Yeah. And this is 12 years ago. You didn't realize this 12 years ago? Come on. Come on. Come on. Now, the other incredible thing here is that she's saying this when there's no scientific evidence. Ha!

whatsoever that it's true. She did have some other anecdotal evidence, however, because Andy Murray at the time, he was the number one man in the world. Okay. It's not fair to play the number one men's tennis player in the world. Why would it, would it not be fair? There's no scientific evidence to support that. There's a difference between these two genders, but okay. No, but she did have some anecdotal evidence because back in 1998, uh,

Serena and her sister Venus were in a clubhouse at a tennis club bragging about the fact that they could beat any men's player outside the top 200 in the world. Now, again, if there was no difference, you wouldn't need to have the qualifier of the top 200 in the world. That's exactly right. But that's still quite a statement. Yes. Interestingly, Karsten Brosh, the 203rd ranked tennis player in men's tennis at the time, said,

I will say, other than this story, have never heard of. Never heard of Karsten Brosh. Right. He overheard them say that. And he said, you know what? I'll take you up on that. Let's see about that. And they did. And Karsten Brosh crushed Serena 6-1. 6-1. And then thrashed Venus 6-2. Now, at the time, Venus was a little bit higher ranked than Serena. She was number five in the world. Serena, I think, was...

20 in the world, but they were teenagers. They were like 18 and 20 or something at the time. But he demolished them. And he said afterwards, I really didn't play my hardest. Because he didn't have to. I mean, I'm surprised he didn't play them left-handed. But it's not...

difficult to find these anecdotal stories but again these are not this is not scientific proof it's just anecdotal evidence and you can take it with a grain of salt yeah let me give you some more anecdotal evidence before because i because i know there's no scientist science here but let me give you one another piece of anecdotal evidence i stumbled upon yesterday allison felix

She's an Olympic runner. She ran a personal best 49.26 seconds in the 400 meter at the 2015 Beijing World Championships. That's impressive. That's fast. Impressive. Now, neither you or I, Pat, could challenge that number. No. It would not be close. Maybe even in our cars. Okay. Yeah. It's a fast person. However... In a Tesla, you can maybe challenge that. You can maybe do that. Yeah. However...

In one year, that number, 49.26 seconds for the 400 meter, was beaten over 15,000 times by men and boys. But just the 15,000. Okay. It wasn't 15 million. 15,000 in recorded events. Obviously, it happened a lot more in practice. But 15,000 in recorded events. Okay. Now, that's an Olympic runner. Really, really impressive. Yeah. Yeah.

15,000 times in one year it was beaten. Okay. So that's just a minor thing, but not science. That's not science. No, it's not science. There is, as USA Today just told us this year, there is no scientific evidence that supports the fact that men are better at sports than women or boys are better than girls. And you could also look at every record.

In track and field. Yes. And you will also see a difference between men and women. But again, that's just anecdotal. Like you said, it's not scientific evidence. Now, I have one other piece of evidence I want to bring to you. Okay. And if you could just, you have your library with you. Just pull this out real quick. It's the Journal of Applied Physiology.

Volume 138, issue two. All right. And that's, of course, January 2025. The Journal of Applied Physiology. And just flip that, if you could, real quick to pages 274 to 281. As you're getting that ready, we'll take a quick 60-second break, and then I'll let you know if there happens to be any science that supports this idea. But we know there's not, so. Well, I mean, that's what USA Today said. This is going to be a futile effort, obviously. Of course, I'm sure. Yeah. All right, more coming up.

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All right, Pat, we are here. We're doing the sexy programming here today. Getting the ratings with a Journal of Applied Physiology, Volume 138, Issue 1, January 2025, pages 274 to 281. Read along. Shameless. Oh, yeah. This is the sort of programming that we like. Okay. This is what the summary of the study says. Again, there's no science to support it. This is the summary of the study.

There are profound sex differences in human performance in athletic events determined by strength, speed, power, endurance, and body size such that males outperform females, period. Yeah.

I'm helping with the punctuation because you can't read. If you don't have the journal in front of you, you might not be reading. That was the end of the sentence. These sex differences in athletic performance exist before puberty and increase dramatically as puberty progresses. These sex differences are markedly greater in magnitude...

Then the advantages that policymaking bodies seek to eliminate when they regulate equipment or drugs that could enhance performance. And that's a really important part of this, because one of the arguments they will say is like, OK, maybe there is a difference. The people that will admit it. But they'll say, well, if you start taking hormones or stop taking them.

If you change, you know, we'll change equipment. All that is outweighed by just the fact that dudes do better at these things than women do. There's seven points that they make to summarize this. Males outperform females in athletic events dependent on skeletal muscle strength, speed, power, and performance.

Male-female performance gap is evident before puberty. Male-female performance gap increases after the onset of puberty is associated with changes in body structure, physiology, and function. Surge in testosterone among males is the principal driver of

of increased male-female performance gap in adults. Change in female body during puberty and female physiology during athletic career can contribute to male-female performance gap. Testosterone suppression modestly reduces athletic performance, but a large, significant male-female performance gap remains. When females use testosterone after puberty and train for sports, athletic performance is enhanced.

but the male female performance gap does not close

That's the end of that sentence, in case you were wondering. I was. Thank you for that. And I always kind of felt that maybe they might be right when they say that there's no science that says it because there would never be a need to have a study that would tell you this. When you've got so much evidence. Everyone knows it. Your eyes. All human beings are aware of this fact. Every record. Every record. Every example of men playing against women. And here's the other thing.

How many trans women, you know, women now switching over to being a man, taking testosterone, all of those things. How many of them are competing against men in men's sports?

To my knowledge, it's zero. When you get to the professional level, it's zero. Zero. I don't see it anywhere. I mean, so I've mentioned this example before. My son plays relatively high level baseball. And he is, you know, is in a tournament. And one of the really good teams in this tournament had a girl on it. And this is, I think, 12-year-old levels. And she was a pitcher. She threw harder than...

players in the tournament like was was legitimately impressive and want to actually hit an over the fence home run in this tournament where there was maybe three or four hit in the entire tournament like really really good yeah now at some point

Now, this is, we're talking about the best female baseball player, certainly in this area, who's one person who was able to rise to a level where she's competitive with a bunch of other 12-year-old boys. She's a very good player. This is not going to last, unfortunately. Now, when puberty happens, that's going to change. Right. She's going to get to a place where, and I don't know what her future is, probably playing softball and probably an

excellent girl softball player. But right now she's able to compete in that level and good for her. And you know what? There wasn't any dad that I saw was like, damn it! No! Get her out of there! She's beating up on the boys!

on the boys because girls are superior at the sport than boys. Nobody complained. It's not even honestly changing genders. It's the competition aspect. It's taking opportunities away from women and girls after they've worked their whole lives to get to where they were and then you got it stolen by some guy who can't compete against the men. Now he's competing against you. It's just so unfair. It's wrong. Not to mention, we should point out a big part of this was the fact that

Leah Thomas was getting dressed in the same room as all these college-age girls, which was actually much more offensive than the scores and the times. This is Glenn Beck.

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It's Pat and Stu. This is kind of an addendum to what we were talking about on the trans issue with the men competing against women. Also sort of adjacent to that, a little issue in Houston, Bel Air High School.

The parents of a student there have filed a federal lawsuit against Houston Independent School District because they violated their constitutional rights by continuing to refer to their daughter as a boy at school without their knowledge or consent. So this started, I guess, when she was a freshman and the school started participating in her transition, in her gender transition.

Started referring to her as he instead of she renamed her. They won't say because they're trying to protect, obviously, the privacy of the student. But went from a female name to a typical male name. The parents found out about it at some point during the school year and went to the school system, wrote them letters, visited the principal. The teachers told them to stop writing.

This is our daughter. This is not our son. Stop transitioning her at school. This is... This is like... These are really crazy requests by the parents. Can you believe it? I can't. First they're micromanaging what flavor goldfish are being brought in and now this. This is what it gets to.

That's unbelievable. You'd have to make that point. Houston, Texas. It's not New York City. It's not Los Angeles, California. It's Houston, Texas. Now you lived in Houston. Yes, for eight years. And you, I think, agree that it's not exactly, the city itself is not exactly a conservative place, even though people around the country might hear Texas and think, oh, I can't believe this is happening in this conservative location. A lot of these cities in Texas are very liberal.

They are. Yeah. Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, they're all run by Democrats. So although Dallas, I think did the mayor in Dallas, he switched to Republican, right? So, I mean, that's an amazing, that's an amazing development that he switched from the Democrat Party. But anyway, yeah, the inner cities, even in Texas, are run by Democrats. But this is in Bel Air. I mean, it's kind of away from the urban areas.

of the city a little bit. And you would think, all right, well, this is a little bit more conservative area. And you'd be wrong because they're doing this to these parents and they're pissed off. And I mean, this is why we homeschooled for 23 years just because of this kind of stuff. You just, I mean, the things that are going on in public schools right now, and there are some great public schools and there are some great public school teachers that

But there's also this kind of stuff happening that you just can't abide. I mean, at this point...

you don't just do the lawsuit but you take your child out of that school system don't you I mean I would we well we did yeah and it was less it was for less reason than this not even close we weren't at that point at all right uh I did the same and my kids go to private school and and you know I I think the the conservative movement made a mistake for a couple decades

focusing too much on colleges. Yeah. Where again, like, you know, universities are important. It's an important part. Yes, it's true. A lot of our lawmakers, a lot of our elite professions are run almost entirely by Democrats educated at universities that are taught by professors that are almost entirely Democrats.

uh democrats and left-wing honestly democrats doesn't even say it right like they're a lot of them are just like they're like mom donnie clones um that being said and that is important most people aren't

they don't even go through that. Like, you know, if they go to college, they go to a much less prestigious university than something that is in the Ivy leagues. And, um, and they might still get a lot of left wing thought pumped into them. I mean, that does still happen, but like,

Creating a foundation earlier in the kid's life is really, really important. And it's something that was ignored for a long time, honestly, probably until COVID. And now there was always a bubbling around idea of something like school choice. It was always a conservative policy. It was a priority. It was something that I fought for. You fought for. Glenn fought for for a long time. But honestly, I didn't see much. There wasn't a lot of appetite for.

for this in lawmaking circles. They'd entertain it. It would be talked about at think tanks, but it wasn't. Nothing would happen. Nothing would happen until COVID. And the world has changed in a big way. I mean, Texas just added a big program. New Hampshire has a program. I think it's over a dozen states. It might be a couple dozen states now where some version of school choice has been

and passed. And so this is changing. There's now opportunities for you in a lot of these states if you have kids and you don't necessarily have the funds to direct them into a private school or for whatever reason you're not able to do homeschooling, which is an awesome option as well. You can now redirect the money that you're already paying for schools. I have my entire life paid for both private school and public school for my kids. They just don't use the public school part of it.

And if you don't have the funds to do that for whatever reason, now there are plans that can help you with that in a lot of these states. And I can't encourage it enough. Homeschooling, awesome if you can do that. If that's not up your alley, private school, finding the right private school, not just any private school, but finding the right private school. And we send our kids to a Christian school, same thing.

Man, it makes a massive difference. I can't tell you. I've had a few friends who have kind of converted. They had their kids in public school, brought them over to private school. They rave and rave and rave and rave about it. It changes the way your kids are. They marinate in goodness.

You know, faith, you know, things that you just don't get in a lot of these public schools. And that does not mean that there aren't great teachers there that are trying their best. And thank God they're there doing that. But there are other options. And I think like addressing that, when we first put our kids in private school, I remember my thought process, which was, you know, things are going pretty well with the show. You know, things are going well, like,

We can afford to do this. We're blessed to be able to do that. And we're going to do it. And, you know, worst case scenario, if things, you know, break down, you know, Glenn starts drinking again or whatever, which, you know, we always think is 50-50 at any given week. Any moment. Any moment. You know, and things break apart and whatever, career falls apart, whatever the story is, we still live in a good town and we can always put them in public school. I have...

completely converted from that way of thinking to now saying like, it's the best money I spend every year. I will live under a bridge and,

And I will put them in this school or, you know, school like if we ever were to move before putting them back in public school. And part of that is just that the environment has changed quite a bit in public schools. But part of it is just seeing, I think, the change. You know, you see your kids and they really are different. I mean, if you think about how, you know, homeschooling, there's a great argument for homeschooling, which is,

you're raising your kids and you are giving up your kids for a lot of their hours that they're awake to somebody else to sort of raise, right? Like when they go to a public school or a private school. So that decision is really, really important. And doing that yourself is obviously optimal for a lot of people. But like,

It's the same thing when you think about the difference between public school and private school. What environment are you sending them to for half of the hours they're awake every day? And if you don't expect that to have any influence on them,

I got news for you. I mean, you probably worry about the influence a television program would have on them, right? Oh yeah. You know, the music they're listening to, you probably worry about that stuff. And then you can, you know, a lot of people just kind of think, well, this is my option. I'm going to send them to this school. Hopefully there's another option for you. There's not for everybody, but we're working on that and working the right direction to make it more of a possibility for everybody to be able to choose the school that they want to go to. And it's a great, that's a great thing that's happened since COVID. It's critical. Yeah. Yeah.

Let's go to Russ in New York. Hey, Russ, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu. Hey, good morning. How are you guys? Good. Doing well. Thanks. I'm a seven-time member of the U.S. bobsled team. I did skeleton one man on your stomach head first. Oh, my gosh. That looks like you're just heading towards certain death. Yeah, well, I'd rather be a bobsledder than a sore loser. That's a Winter Olympics humor there. Hello.

I like it. Yeah. Ten years after I retired, I went up to watch a race, and one of the young guns said, hey, come on, you know, let's see what you got. All right, challenge accepted. Now, I hadn't been on a sled in ten years, took three training runs on a track that I had never been on before, and raced and came in 11th in the national championships. However, if I would have raced in the women's national championship, I would have won the race by over a second.

and been the national champion and been the USA one slider in the next year's season. That is phenomenal. That is amazing. That's incredible. I mean, is there any part of you, Russ, that's like, you know, I could put on a wig? I mean, this would be incredible. Give it a shot. Do a little conversion and see if you can win a gold.

Thank God East Ventura didn't come out until after that. I really didn't want to do an Einhorn.

Thanks, Russ. Appreciate it. That's awesome. Again, like I, there's nothing wrong with women's sports. I freaking love watching Caitlin Clark play. Like I really do enjoy it. You know, I have a daughter who's in gymnastics. She's great. Like she does great. You know, she's incredible gymnast does things that I could never even conceive of doing. I mean, I mean that legitimately, I can't even conceive of the stuff that she actually does. But like,

there's a real place for women's sports and it's great, but why can't we just admit things that are true? Yeah. Right. That's all we're asking. Exactly.

And it's why there are women's sports. Yep. Right. You wouldn't need them. That's why we separate the men from the women. Because that would be the logical solution here, Pat, right? Yeah, just let everybody play together. There's no WNBA. There's just an NBA. Right. And when Caitlin Clark is good enough, which, you know, again, I love her. And this is not a bash. She would not be good enough. No, she would not. Of course, to play in the NBA. That's not a knock on her. It doesn't mean she doesn't have incredible skills. But she would not be able to make an NBA team or, honestly, probably a Division I college team.

You know, it's just the truth. You know, it's just the difference. So that does not mean she's not incredibly talented. She is. And the reason we know about her is because we have women's sports. And that's great.

Yep. You know, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just like, because if there were no scientific evidence to support this, Pat, you could just combine them and you'd have probably 50-50 men and women. Right. Right? Right. Yes. That's not the way it works out. No, it isn't. It is not. 888-727-BECK. More coming up. You know, truth makes the left so mad. And right about now, they're all losing their minds. We must be doing something right.

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And decided that, you know what? Men can't compete against women anymore at this university. Plus, we're going to remove all the records that Leah Thomas set in swimming here at this university. Pretty incredible. Do you hold, let me ask you, push back a little bit on this and ask you this question. There's definitely fault here. There's no doubt about it. But is the fault properly placed on Penn University?

Or should it be more thought of as a problem with the Biden administration? Because one of the things they said in their statement was we were consistent with the rules at the time. Yeah. And, you know, again, I think a university should stand up and fight it. Right. But like, yeah, this is what the government was telling them to do.

That's true. That's true. It was so bad that before Biden left office, what he was going to do with this new ruling in the NCAA that the schools can now pay athletes, right? They can now pay them $20.5 million. They can spread that out over their athletic programs. And so pretty much all colleges that are going to make the payments to athletes, they don't have to do it, but they can opt into it.

So the the colleges were obviously going to devote most of the money to football and men's basketball because those are the moneymakers. And that's where you devote the most funds and resources. The Biden administration ruled before he left that you had to spread it out equally between the men's and women's programs.

Which President Trump has rightfully done away with in the meantime. But in the beginning, it was like, no, you got to spread that out. Well, that's asinine. Right. Because they don't bring in the same kind of resources that the men's teams do. So you're not going to devote the same amount of resources to them. So, yeah, I think the Biden administration was a part of that.

at least in part, at fault. Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, they should have... Number one, I think they probably agree with the Biden administration, so I don't give them a break there. Number two, they should have, if they didn't agree, step up and say, hey, this is wrong. But, like, they were put in a position where if they were following the rules, this was the chosen outcome from the Biden administration. Which is crazy based on Title IX, for instance. I mean, Title IX...

It really was passed for women, actual biological women, so that you had to have the same amount of sports for women that you have for men. And so that's what it was initially for, was because most schools were devoting all of their resources to men's teams. And Title IX changed that. And so to go against that and now say...

No, no, these guys can compete against the girls in girls sports. It's fine. Bizarre. Bizarre. Absolutely bizarre. And not to mention, as we mentioned, like what's going on in the locker rooms, which in somehow the Me Too era is the right thing to do for women. It's like inexplicably stupid. But they don't care. Look, it's one of the reasons why Donald Trump's president of the United States right now. Because people saw what was happening and were like, uh, no more of that. Exactly right.

This is Glenn Beck. 888-727-BECK is our phone number. It's Patton's do in for Glenn. We were just, we got into a conversation about college sports and now we haven't, you know, we're not ready at all for the hour of broadcast because we haven't talked about any of the topics. Like, unless we're going to do an hour on college baseball right now. Yeah, I think that's what we'll do. Yeah. Yeah. Just an hour on college baseball. I think people would love that. Yeah, I think so too. I mean,

I really have gotten into it a little bit. I would. Yeah. I love it. You know, my son really loves baseball, you know, and so we, we did a tournament. He had a, like a little league. It was, I think 11 U tournament in Omaha a few years ago and a couple of years ago now. And we went to the college world series that year. It was when Wyatt Langford was there and Paul Skeens. And it was that year. And Skeens throws what? 203 miles an hour or something like that. It's incredible. Yeah. Um,

And it was just really fun to watch. You know, it was just really cool. The whole city is focused around it. You know, I had never been really spent much time in Omaha. It was really cool. You can walk to almost everything down there. It's a really cool experience. If you like baseball, especially if you have a kid who loves it.

taking them there and like getting a hotel room in the city and just spending the city time in the city. It was really, really fun. Just a really cool experience. So there's so many of those events around America. America is great. Yeah. I hate this idea that it's, it sucks. It's freaking awesome. There's so much cool stuff to do. So, so do it to do it. So do the cool stuff. Yeah.

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in history. In the history of Pixar, it's pretty amazing. I think it only had 20 million or something on opening weekend. Elio didn't do well. Now, there's a couple of different trains of thought on why the movie didn't do well. Get into that. We got RFK is eyeing some changes to the vaccine injury compensation program. Tell you about that. And much more coming up in one minute.

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Oh, he was supposed to be gay. Gay coded is the way they're saying. Gay coded. Gay coded. So it wasn't outwardly a story about a kid falling in love with a kid that was a boy, but it was hinted at. But they were going to do that. Yeah. They were going to make it seem as though, yes, if you read between the lines or whatever, that's what was happening. Yeah. Like, uh,

Those that worked at Pixar, this is from Hollywood Reporter, those who worked at Pixar when Ilia was in production were delighted by footage they saw roughly two years ago. Among the moments cited as favorites by those in the animation studio at the time included a sequence where the boy collected trash on the beach and turned it into homemade apparel that included a pink tank top.

The movie's team would refer to Elio showing off to this hermit crab as a trashin' show. Get it? It's not because he made the clothing out of trash. If you bought a ticket to Elio, don't remember seeing this. It's not that you chose the wrong time to refill your soda. According to multiple insiders who spoke to the Hollywood Reporter, Elio was initially portrayed as a queer-coded character.

Again, queer now okay to say. It was an insult back in the day. Not anymore. Not anymore. Now it's the only way you're supposed to say it or something. It reflected the director's identity as an openly gay filmmaker. Oh, that's beautiful. Other sources said they did not intend the film to be a coming out story as the character is 11 years old.

But either way. Thank you. Jeez, I hope not. I hope that's not the focus. Man. Either way, the characterization gradually faded away throughout the production process as Elio became more masculine following feedback from leadership. Gone were not only such direct examples of his passion for environmentalism and fashion, but also a scene in Elio's bedroom with pictures suggesting a male crush on.

Hints at this trash fashion remain in the released film with a boy wearing a cape decorated with discarded cutlery and soda can tabs, although without any explanation for the unusual attire.

It is, of course, always a catastrophe when you make a movie and then try to like rework it into something completely different. Yeah. It usually does not work out well. And it didn't. However, my understanding of the testing of this film was so bad. That's what I heard too. That they had to change it. It wasn't just the leadership at Pixar or Disney. It was test audiences didn't like it. They were like, I don't think I want my kids to be seeing this queer coded movie.

And so that was my understanding of why they changed it anyway. But it didn't work even afterwards. So it didn't go well. You stand at odds with Sarah Ligetich.

Oh no. Now I know normally you try to align your goals with Sarah. I really do, but it didn't work out this time. Now, you know, I just, this is not for you, Pat. This is for the audience who might not be aware, but Sarah Ligatish, of course, uh,

is a member of the company's internal LGBTQ group, Picks Pride. Sure, Picks Pride. Yeah. Now, there's really a... I want to say this just up front in case people are questioning this. There is 100% really good reason for a child's movie company to have an LGBTQ group inside of it. Kidding. That's definitely necessary to make cartoons for children. Yeah.

Incredible. You gotta have that. You can't just have people who are just individuals.

who have individual beliefs, wants, lifestyle choices, all sorts of things. You can't have that. I just want to make a good movie for children. Just want to be artists and make great movies. Yeah. Can't have that. You got to have an agenda. You got to cordon people off into little groups designed by who they want to have sex with or what private parts they admire. That's the way you do it. That's the way children's theater is presented today.

Great idea. And I'm sure Sarah just loves that. But she was deeply saddened and aggrieved. Oh, no. I hate to hear that. She was aggrieved, Pat. No. By the changes that were made. Don't say that. Not just aggrieved, Pat. Deeply aggrieved. Deeply aggrieved. Wow. Think of that. That's painful. That is kind of what's... Now, they're saying like, well, that made the movie a disaster, which, you know, of course...

You know, Superman 2, this happened in... A version of this happened in Superman 2. It's a different version, but like Superman 2, if I remember the story right, and some nerd will definitely correct me on this, but they started off the movie with one director. He was kind of doing it more serious. Okay. And then they were having all sorts of production problems. They brought in a different director who kind of rewrote it into a campy comedy. Is this two or three? I think it's two. Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nerds Unite. Feel free to call 888-727-BECK if I have this wrong. Is this the one with Richard Pryor? No, that's three, right? Yeah, I think so. Four is the nuclear weapon one, I think. Okay. Two was Zod.

Yeah. Right? Yes, I think so. Kneel before Zod. Yes. It was that one. They had the three anti-Superman superheroes. The big tall guy who couldn't speak. The attractive lady. Right. And Zod. And Zod. Yes. And they were all up against Christopher Reeve. Against Christopher Reeve. Right? I am pretty sure I've got this right. I think so. It sounds like it.

But yeah, and if you remember, there's a lot of goofy jokes in the movie. I don't know if you remember, like it's,

there's a lot of like slapsticky weirdness in it. It doesn't seem to fit. And that was because there were two completely separate directors, one of which came in after half of the movie was already shot or something. And so a lot of times that doesn't work well. I liked Superman too as a kid. It's been a while. I did too. I will say since I've seen it. It's probably... It came out what, 79? Was it really that... I think so. So anyway, I remember liking it. But...

It doesn't. So it could be part of that is the problem here. Like you start with someone who has a vision for a movie and you bring in, you know, all these changes. My understanding of the rating was very, very poor as they went through the testing to the extent of like almost no one.

in the test groups liked it. Now that's a problem. That is a problem. Yeah. You shouldn't always go through, you know, the panels of people and follow their guidance. Like a lot of times they might have, you know, opinions that aren't right. And you stand by your artistic vision sometimes, but there are probably limits to that when your company is putting up a hundred million or $200 million to support your project. Yeah. Yeah. I'd say so. A Superman too, by the way, 1981, June of 81. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Also, RFK checking out some potential changes to the vaccine injury compensation program with the stated aim of improving the ways in which vaccine toxicities are identified and victims compensated. He said, I brought in a team this week that is starting to work toward these changes and

It was established in 1986, the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. The U.S. Vaccine Injury Compensation Program is a no-fault system of resolving vaccine injury petitions, and he wants to change that. He doesn't want the companies, the pharmaceuticals, to be completely exempt from all of this now. Okay.

And this also gives him an opportunity to get into the whole autism thing and where that's coming from. Because he still believes, it seems to me anyway, that he still believes that autism might be brought on by vaccines that are given to children. RFK? RFK. I would say he's certain of it. He's certain of it. I would say he's certain of it. He's certain of it. I will say, one of the things, like, look, look.

who was running for president against Donald Trump and calling him all sorts of terrible names. Okay. At one point realized he was not going to win and decided he wanted to get a lot of power. And there was one way to get it, which was to endorse Donald Trump. Okay. That's the story. Yes. And he did offer himself up to both candidates. Yes. Both candidates at the end of the process. Kamala first. We should also note Kamala did not call him back. That is what occurred.

And she should have. She should have. She should have. Now, Donald Trump was smart enough to say, hey, there's a slice of this population that has some agreement with me on things, some disagreement with me on things. But bringing this over in a closed election is advisable. He embraced RFK Jr. and kept his promise to RFK Jr.,

And it seems to have worked out. Yes. It worked out certainly politically well. Yeah. The thing, and all of that is understandable. We all understand how that happened. That's totally fine. There's a big part of the MAGA movement that I would say is MAHA and is consistent with, with, with RFK juniors beliefs. What I can't,

take and I will say this is this idea that R.K. Jr. is on the edge of his seat trying to figure out whether he thinks vaccines are causing autism. He's been consistent for this for multiple decades. He is not going into a process and I'm going to think about this. I don't know which way is this going to turn

out we know how it's gonna turn out he believes it and that's fine like he does again I you know whatever your opinion is on that you make up your own mind as long as he's not telling parents what they must do your opinion on it because I don't I don't really read between the lines it's it I will say it's my kids are vaccinated I feel fine with that choice I'm not not concerned about it some people are we have I have really good friends who work here who are much on the opposite side of that and and that's

Totally fine. You should be able to make your own choices for your own kids. And as long as RFK Jr., which he did say he would not take away choices from parents, if he's consistent with that, whatever. I care about the government's recommendations on these things about as much as I care about the recommendations on the food pyramid. As long as it's not mandated. Right.

Right. Don't mandate it either way. I am completely with RFK Jr. and opposing mandates on vaccines. Parents should be able to make their own choices on these matters. Yeah. You know, so as long as he doesn't violate the things that he promised, I think, number one, I won't have a problem with what he's doing because I don't really care what the government recommends. I don't care. They also tell me to eat healthy. I don't do that either. Number two, as long as he doesn't violate what Donald Trump recommends,

what he's promised to Donald Trump. And that was, hey, stay in your freaking lane. I'll stay out of the global warming and global warming and all of that. I will say there's always been talk about whether he's going to ban aspartame, which I will say I've got a beautiful can of right here in front of me in my Diet Coke.

Is he talking about that? I don't see. This is where I think the line is. Yeah. Donald Trump is not going to take kindly to trying to ban aspartame. Because he loves that stuff, too. He loves his Diet Coke. Yeah, yeah. So, like, I think if he stays in his lane. He'll be fine. Some of the stuff you do, I will really like. Some of it, I probably won't. But honestly, like, when has the HHS secretary made a difference in my life?

I don't know. I mean, I can't remember. It never has, I don't think. Happening. They make a lot of recommendations. They say a lot of things. I ignore all of it. He has the potential to make a difference in our lives. He could. Because he really wants to ban certain things. Right. But he said he would. He said he would.

Now, again, I don't know. I have an opinion of RFK Jr. and his credibility on his promises in life. So does his wife, by the way. And they don't necessarily believe. You mean by that? What? Many of his female partners have opinions on his promise quality and find it to be lacking. Yeah. But that being said, I think Trump...

will hold him to his lane. Yeah, I do too. And if he does that, whatever. So I'm not honestly all that concerned about our... I think that's a healthy attitude about the whole thing. Yeah, I think so too. I mean, and I think like... Look, he did something important in the campaign and he... And I think it did help. I think it did too. Now, I am not of the opinion. Let's see if you are. Are you of the opinion that Donald Trump loses without that endorsement? No, I am not. I am not either. So I think it was...

I think it's helped. It might have been closer. Yeah. A little bit closer. Yes. I think Trump still wins. And it was close. Yeah, it was. I know we're a little bit...

Too at ease with how close that election was. It's like how I feel sometimes after five, four Supreme Court decisions. And I'm like, oh, we got them. Wait a minute. We were one person away from losing all religious freedom. I shouldn't be so confident in the five, four. It was a little closer than I think we sometimes mentally remember. Yeah, because we had a bunch of swing states that Trump swept.

But again, in the blue wall states that Kamala needed to win, the biggest margin in any of those states was 1.8%.

So it certainly didn't hurt that he jumped on board. You know, maybe, maybe it was the difference. And it certainly has expanded Trump's coalition to a lot of people who have traditionally been on the left. Yeah. And that is, you know, not easy to do. 888-727-BECK. More coming up in one minute.

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It's Pat and Stu today. And we were talking about RFK and the whole Maha movement. You know, we already...

Red number five or 47 or 63. I thought it was 40. Have you missed it? It was maybe. Oh, no, actually 40. That happened during Biden, actually. Oh, I thought that was RFK just recently. No? Maybe there was another one. I know he's been doing some of this stuff. There's another red. I think that he's considering getting rid of. He's pressured food companies to get rid of that. And some of them have. But the red 40. And you love the chemicals.

Oh, I love that. You want chemicals in your food. I'm fine when the food dies. I know. Again, I don't care at all about any of that stuff. By the way, I like it. I love it. I like the fact that the Froot Loops are super brightly colored. Yes, me too. I want the blue to be vibrant. I don't want it to be blueberry blue. I want it to glow in the dark. I want it to glow in the dark. I want it to be actually...

Actually nuclear soaked. That's kind of me. Marinated in nuclear waste. I have all sorts of flaws. And then bring it to my bowl. This is low on the list, frankly. But I don't... It's not my concern. And I don't like that he's... It was actually the Biden administration, I believe, that banned at least that first one. Red 40? I think it was Red 40 that they banned. Now, again, you look at the Red 40 research. Am I convinced that it's a problem? No. Does it have...

Very loose ties to a small percentage of children having additional short-term ADHD effects. Yes. Is that a reason to ban something? I would say no. And most of the other stuff, there's almost no support for it. That being said...

It's not going to change my life, honestly, again. A lot of the stuff I fall back on... It's not that big a deal either way. You just, like... Is it something to fight over? Not really. Yeah, I'm not... If you don't use it, the food is just a different color or you find a different way to color that food. Yeah, and that's what they do in Canada. Yeah. You know, again, like, I...

From a fundamental standpoint in Europe, right? Fundamentally, I don't want to chase the policies of Canada or Europe. I found them to be negative. Yes. And I don't like, I like, you know, I like our old approach, which was, hey, let's keep everybody, let's keep it open. Let's let people make their own choices. Yeah. All these things that you're talking about, by the way, we should note are already on the market.

You can go buy, you can go buy Fruit Loops with all sorts of different ways of it being colored. There's all sorts of alternatives that are fruit flavored cereals that, that have. Or don't buy Fruit Loops. Or don't buy them at all. Yeah. So like, that's how awesome our country is. Yeah. Without this rule, there are already dozens of companies that produce Fruit Loop flavored cereals that have different colorings than Red 40 if you don't want it. Red 40 is cheaper. Yeah.

It's cheaper. So that's why they use it. It's not because they want to poison you or whatever. It's because it's cheaper and they can make more of a profit and keep the prices lower. So Kellogg's is not specifically trying to kill me? No, not necessarily. I don't think that's their goal. If you go and you... Now, look, going to get...

Beets are one of the colors they use. Another one, there's some really gross stuff that they use, frankly. Crushed up bugs to get red flavoring as well. That's one of the natural flavors they're encouraging. Not my preference. I'd rather not have the bug flavors. But you could still find it. It is sometimes more expensive, though. That is true. This is Glenn Beck.

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All right, it's Pat and Stu for Glenn today. I've been saving this topic for Stu. Thank you. I appreciate this. This is the end of my week. Uh-huh, uh-huh. So I wanted, I knew this is a hot button issue for you and would get you riled up. Because you're a huge RFK Jr. fan. I know you love him. Again, I know a lot of people do love him right now. I get it. They do. I, you know, this is... But it's strange because they might agree with RFK Jr.,

On one thing. On one thing. Maybe two. It might be a big thing. Maybe two. But the rest, if you're a conservative and you...

And you were going to vote for RFK Jr. I'm not sure that was the best choice. Right. And look. Because the guy's radically liberal on many, many things. Right. And hopefully most of that is not affected in his current job. Yeah. Right. And so far, I don't think it has. Yeah. You know, he stayed in his lane. Like, you know, a lot of people on the left are like freaking out. Like, he's changed the people on the vaccine approval board.

And like, you know, there are also other doctors who are in the administration, like Jay Bhattacharya, for example, who is also kind of skeptical on a lot of, you know, what happened during COVID, for example, and all that. But it's, you know, maybe closer to where I am on some of these other issues. But like, you know, they're all kind of working together. And I think anyone...

The reason I didn't like RFK Jr. as an HHS secretary is it's basically another full-time job for the administration to monitor him and make sure he doesn't go into all these areas he's promised to go into his entire life. That is a concern. It's a concern, and it should be a concern that they monitor. But look, that was the deal. This is the job. So this is what they're doing. So one of the things that RFK Jr. has thrown out, and it's a fascinating topic, is the

autistic rates that have skyrocketed if you just simply look at the statistics from 1950 where the rate of autism was 1 in 10,000. And you look at the rate today, which is 1 in 31. I mean, that's...

Significant, obviously. It's like... Massive. Massive. In diagnosis. But what... Yes. Part of the problem is that the 1 in 10,000 is probably not real because diagnostic...

of finding out that somebody has autism has changed the very definition of what is autism. And if you're on the spectrum, that's changed. Right. There was the spectrum to most people, I think is a new term. Yes. Over the past. I think it is a couple of decades, right? Where it was either you were autistic or you weren't right. And now there's a spectrum, by the way, these are good developments. Like the fact that this part of it, I'm not saying, you know, the increase in rate is good development, but the fact that like,

doctors are looking at this in a much more nuanced way of understanding what's happening to each individual child is really really positive yes um so that that's a good thing um you know the rate going up obviously is not a good thing yeah it could be a bunch of different stuff but you know you don't want the rate to get higher obviously so you can explain away i think part of the gap

From 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 31. But let's say you take it all the way down to 1 in 1,000. Maybe that's even too high. I don't know. But that would be a reduction of 90%. Which is, you know, who knows? But at that number, it's 1 tenth of the initial estimate. Still, to get to 1 in 31 today, you would think, all right, something is going on. Right? Is it...

Is it something in the food chain? Is it something if you discount vaccines? And I don't think there's a single study that really shows that, yep, it's coming from vaccines.

I don't know of one. They even looked into the mercury situation, the thimerosal. Yeah, that was a big one. That was a huge concern for people and they took it out. And but the anti-vaccine side... Yeah, the anti-vaccine side basically won that argument. Like they were, hey, we're concerned about thimerosal and these vaccines. Yeah. So they won it. They took it out. And of course, as you know, as those, I think a lot of those same people would note now, the rates have increased dramatically since that time. Yeah. So that...

You know, doesn't seem to be the case. Doesn't seem like that's the case. But is it so? Is it food coloring? Is it preservatives? Is it pesticides? If you look into, okay, the way that we keep bugs off our food and all of that kind of stuff, are there too many lingering pesticides that are toxic to us and that causes autism? I don't know. But something I think, I think there is something environmental about

that goes into this and the increased rates? Yeah, there may be. Um, I think, you know, they, they haven't, I don't think they've located it. If, if that's the case, I think, you know, and you mentioned the, uh, the increase in the rate, uh,

And you know, some of it may be diagnostic. We know for a fact some of it is diagnostic. For example. No question. Example of this is Elon Musk. Elon Musk, if you, he has said before publicly that he has Asperger's, right? Yes. Well, currently speaking, no one has Asperger's because Asperger's was combined into the autism spectrum in 2013 as a diagnosis.

Right. So like, that's a big one. There's also another one called pervasive developmental disorder that was also combined into this. Um, so we know some of it comes from that. Some of it comes from doctors being more aware of it. And this is, you know, again, that part of it is positive, right? Like with the fact that we have doctors who are maybe understanding this a lot better and are able to deal with it in a, in a better way is, is, is overtly a positive. Um,

You know, they have found some stuff in genes and they're able to find them when babies are in their fetal state.

a correlation with autism now that would indicate that it wouldn't be environmental that would be natural part of it right because you're finding it before they're even you know born or eating strange um so part i think it's a complicated picture and you know i am all for some of these efforts as they're described right to to come out and try to find what's going on i know you know i was listening to an interview with jay badasharia where he says you know i don't think

Now, I disagree with R.K. Jr. on, you know, the causes of autism as it applies to childhood vaccines. You know that. And again, this is a guy who is a pretty skeptic. He was certainly skeptical of a lot of the lockdown efforts and the closing kids schools like he was on our side. He's in the Trump administration currently. And he says, look, R.K. has a sincerely held belief.

And I don't think there's anything wrong with looking into it and trying to find what the truth is. In fact, I think that's what science is supposed to do, right? Yeah, I think so. So I don't buy from RFK that this is a sincere effort, that he might just be like, guys, you're not going to believe this. Vaccines have nothing to do with it. My entire life's work was a lie. You don't expect that outcome. And I also don't expect Anthony Fauci to show up and say, guys, by the way, masks didn't work at all.

and uh yeah wow did i blow it like i don't think either of those things are going to happen yes but i do think it's a great like it's always a good idea to try to advance science and get more knowledge when it comes to these things and he's promised some big study that's supposed to come out by september i think it was yeah right yeah so that'll be interesting so that will be interesting it comes of that another interesting part of this i thought and again it's hard to determine every single case you know we have i have

people I talk to all the time that are sure that they know what, what, what's causing an individual case might be caused by. And then like, you know, I,

I can't even imagine like if you're in a situation like that, it's really difficult to deal with. And I, you know, one of the things I don't like about saying all of this is caused by vaccines is it puts a lot of the blame on the parents. Like, you know, this is a choice that a parent has made. And like you're saying, you're basically blaming them for this really tough thing that they're dealing with their kids. And I, it might, maybe that is the cause, but that's, I don't know. I, I, I don't,

That mechanism bothers me at some level. Like, I don't think it's not like the parents, if the parents make a choice that they're going to have to vaccinate their kids and something bad happens afterward, and then you kind of apply that. It's not the parent's fault. It's not the parent's fault. And I think that's important. It's been recommended by health professionals and you trust them. All right. Well, they told me to do this and I'm doing it. Parents torture themselves over these decisions. I know. And that's difficult. But one of the, one of the, another part of the diagnosis argument basically goes like this.

they, what, when you get tested for autism, typically that happens early in life, right? As you're growing up. And what they found is about a one in three, one in four, uh, one 31 rate. Was it, you say, what was one 31? That percentage is something like, you know, 3%, 3.7%. Um, and, and what they found, uh, when they test kids, that's the rate that they get. One study I thought was interesting is they decided to go and run the same tests on adults, uh,

Adults who were in the period of time where the diagnosis was more like one in 10,000 and one in 5,000. And they ran the current diagnostic tests on them as adults today. What they found was the rate was about one in three.

So really, you know, I've never heard that. That's an interesting, that doesn't prove by the way that there's no environmental facts, but like, I think it's an interesting thing. It, you know, and it's, what's tough about that, I think is these parents, these adults went through their entire lives without any assistance, without any treatment, without any of the help that maybe kids today get, they survived. They may have even thrived, but,

But like, would they have had a better childhood? Would they have been, you know, had they dealt with, you know, better treatment and maybe had a more flourishing life later on? That's an interesting part of it, right? It is. I think, you know, hopefully the kids today are getting that.

So I look, if it is like the best case scenario here is that it is something like vaccines, right? Something that is easily curable and understood. Right. And I hope they do find something that is like, okay, we can just pull this out. You know, like the Amerisol, we can just pull this out of the vaccines and everything will be fine. That didn't wind up being true last time. I hope it is something that we find. That would be great. Yeah. You know, something that we can do something about. Yeah. Would be awesome. Agreed. Yeah.

But you know what? Science and scientists don't know everything. I was just reading an article this morning, in fact, that scientists are now saying they may have been wrong about the origin of life, that it

That it may not have happened the way they think in some sort of primordial soupy goo that we all sprang from the ocean because of the chemicals in the water. And life started that way. Now they're starting to doubt that and say, no, it might have happened some other way. I mean, they're certainly not going to go toward divine things.

that started life. But it's fascinating that they continually tell us that they know virtually everything and there's consensus. And then we find out down the road, no, we don't know that. We don't know that at all. It's the origins of life right now. The Big Bang Theory has been called into question by scientists. Einstein's theory of a static universe that it's the same, that's out the window. But

But don't ever challenge them. Don't you dare challenge them on climate change. No. Because there is absolute consensus on that. And that is settled. Settled science. Don't you dare be a climate denier. No science is ever settled, Pat. That is what it's actually supposed to be. Right. That's the process. It should always be.

You should always be looking at it. So it's very healthy that we are right now. We're looking at these things and trying to figure out, all right, what is the deal here with autism? Totally fine with that. Because we just have no idea. 888-727-BECK. More coming up. Back. We'll be right back. ♪♪♪

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Pat and Stu for Glenn today. 888-727-BECK. We got Stu all fired up as we headed to the 4th of July. That's the important thing. The important thing to know. Well, I mean, I could get you fired up. We could bring up an alligator Alcatraz.

uh we could bring that up because you not my favorite thing i i don't love it um now you don't love what about it because i know you are very hard on the border yes you've been a strong uh protector of our border as long as i've known you exactly um you do want illegal immigrants uh to be detained and deported yes if that is what is necessary what i don't like is the alligator part of it okay i think

Is that a thing, though? I kind of take that as just like a catchy name. Even if it's not, it's just a bad optic or a bad sonic. It just sounds bad because, you know, it sounds like something they would do in...

El Salvador. Okay? If you escape here, you're going to be eaten by an alligator. First time that happens, I mean, alligator Alcatraz goes away and immigration enforcement becomes much more difficult. Now, I don't think anybody's ever going to be eaten by an alligator, but to me, it's kind of a...

I don't know. It doesn't seem American to me. That's interesting because I took it as such a basically a sideshow to the policy. Right. The policy. I know you agree. Yeah. The policy. I agree with 100 percent. Right. And I when I because they asked Trump about it, they're like, what about the alligators? You're like, I guess if they escape.

They'll get eaten by alligators. I guess that's the plan. Now, it's funny because like, no, we don't really want that. It's a real, right. And I don't think Trump wants, even if he doesn't care about human life, he's the only one who even talks about all the lives being lost in these wars. He's the only one that ever brings it up as far as world leaders are concerned. So yeah, I know he cares about the life involved. Yeah. And it's like, I don't, it's interesting like where I think the typical politician, right, would say,

No, it's not really good. We're not talking about people getting eaten by alligators. We're talking about a detention facility that's away from the population that is convenient to an airport. It just would have been a much better spin on it. And Trump...

intentionally goes the opposite direction. Exactly. He makes it sound theoretically worse to the left. Like he, I don't know if it's trolling or what, like it must be because there's no, no part of this policy has anything to do with alligators eating migrants. That is not, I mean,

I guess in theory, it's hard to escape from, right? Yeah. Because you're so in the middle of nowhere, but like no part of this is like, Hey, we think a good look, we're going to enforce the border by putting people in areas where they, if they leave, they'll be eaten by alligators. That's not the policy. Right. Right. It's just a catchy name for a place that's in the Everglades, but it plays into the left. I see what you're saying. And all of their nonsense. And it just, to me, it would have been better to avoid all that. Right. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Look, if you are one of the weird ones that don't want all illegal immigrants eaten by reptiles, okay. I'm out there on a limb. If that's you. Out there on a limb. All right. Have a great Fourth of July. Great Independence Day. We will be back on Monday, and Glenn will return. This is Glenn Beck. ♪♪♪

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