Bad Press, Olympic Rumours & A Live Event!
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playing a lot of guitars. He's playing bass. He's doing the hand claps. And then I'm going to start singing. Look at me. There I am, a professional singer. And yet here I am podcasting with Caitlin Green, Sarah Burke, Jan Arden Podcast and Show. Here we are, folks, and welcome. Welcome to our 209 Patreon members.

We are very excited. We love you so much. We really do. I'm sending you a big warm hug. Yeah, it's very exciting. So yes, we do have a Patreon. We want to say that right out of the gate. It's going to help us keep making this podcast better and better and better. And it's going to just get you all sorts of fun things. And I am going to announce right now that our live event is going to be happening October the 1st. It's a Tuesday.

The tickets are going to be going on sale. Don't check yet. Don't be finding your phone and your computer and flipping it open and looking on all the stuff. We're going to be doing an Eventbrite event. So it's going to be really simple. That's my dog. Poppy's agreeing. He's like, yes. I want Poppy to come. Poppy will hopefully be there. And the Patreon members are going to have...

48 hours, I believe, at first stab to get tickets. There's going to be 125 tickets. It's not a huge event this time, but we want to make sure we don't fuck it up. We just want to make sure you're going to have a glass of Prosecco. You're going to have little gift bags. Caitlin and Sarah and I are going to be there. We're

We're going to be doing it in the universal space. So where my record company is downtown Toronto, I should mention this is in Toronto and we're going to be there and we're probably going to do a couple of hours of podcasting and bonus material. And we might even talk to one of you guys. We might haul your asses up there. Q and a yeah, for sure. Q and a put you in the Q and a hot seat. So anyway, that's all the, the Patreon news. So thank you. You still have time to join up. Maybe that's a good incentive to join up so that you have,

First dibs at a very, very small exclusive event. We're going to have a dunk tank that Jan has to sit in. That would be so good. I will do it. I will do it. I know you would. I'm not putting you up to it because you're such a good sport that you would do it.

I love being, I do love being dunked. I'll tell you what, I like to dunk a donut, but it's not the same thing. No, it's not. Speaking of which, I was dunked once in a hot tub full of Lucky Charms and milk, and I told you guys that before. What? No, you, I've never heard this. I've never heard this story. I was in California doing press for Insensitive. This was in 1994, and I went to a morning show, which is very similar to what Caitlin did for many years.

and the DJs were in a hot tub filled with milk. Talk about a waste of time.

Stop it. And people were coming. They were donating, which is a good idea, to some kind of something. You bought a box of Lucky Charms and you poured it into the hot tub full of hot milk bubbling around. I had to get into this thing and then sing along to myself. What? When they played my song. And here she is, Jan Harden. She's got a song racing up the charts. Insensitive. He probably said insatiable for fuck's sakes.

And here she is and she's going to jam, sing along. So I'm just like, really should have known. So embarrassed in this as people are coming by dumping in boxes of cereal. What in the fresh hell is that? Why did they tell you in advance? It's a morning promo. Did they tell you? No.

That's so that's crazy as someone who worked in morning radio, albeit not on a show of that nature. Like we weren't like shock jock radio. That is a shock job. That's crazy. Do you remember their names? Oh, who knows? Let's go with bubbles and Freddie. I don't know if you remember on parks and recreation, the show starring Amy Poehler, there was the local shock jock radio show called I run the douche. And it was so accurate to that type of radio that,

Oh, it's just it's not it's why it's why legacy media is suffering the way that it is, quite frankly. Well, we did that all across the country. We did it from New York to California and every little town in between. I remember Russ and I stopping because we were driving a lot of the stuff we were him and I are just in a car because he was playing guitar and I was playing guitar. We kept it really simple.

Um, but we went, we were, we were in Alabama and we went into a little breakfast place really early in the morning. I think we had to be at the station at quarter to 6am. So we went to a 24 hour place in Alabama and Russ ordered ham and eggs and toast and hash browns as you do. But on his ham, the ham was in a disc, right?

And it covered this whole oval plate with a bone in the middle of the ham. I had never seen that in my life. On the outside of the ham was the skin with hair on it. No. Yes. Ew. What? But these are the random memories I have of doing press. Ugh. Gross. And he's like. I'm vegan now. I'm just going to sew mine. It's official. He's like, boss, is that? I said, that's the hair on the ham.

So it was a very rustic ham, but he saw it around it. And I think I just had French toast or something. Anyway, I, yes, I don't know why I was speaking to that. We were talking about me being dunked in the dunk tank. But listen, like I said, incentive, get your Patreon, $5 a month. What can you get for $5 a month? Not even a box of tampons.

Tampons are like nine bucks now. Starbucks is more than $5. And I want to say that this is going to be a case of today's price ain't going to be tomorrow's price. You get in while the price is what it is. You know, next year we might have to go to $6. We don't know. You never know. We don't know what's happening. Sarah and Caitlin and I were talking about another podcast or group. Most podcasts do a Patreon because, let's face it, they're not as popular as me.

And I'm kidding. But, you know, people, there's lots of expensive, there's production expenses and there's lots of things that go along with making these things. And for the most part, people listen for nothing. You click onto your Spotify or your iHeart or iTunes and there it is. But Caitlin was saying that these people were charging like $70 for their Patreon.

Yeah, they have tiers of membership and their highest membership includes like certain benefits and added content and like video content. It's all something that you can build towards like as a show. But yeah, it was 70, I believe it's $74 a month. And they call those people their...

It's a lot. They call them their cult members because they're the people who are willing to pay. Okay. Yeah. Thanks for experimenting. I got a round of applause for cult members. Two cheers for cults. We love them.

But they also get their names shouted out at the end of the show. And the hosts make their names very personalized. And I'm telling you, like, these people's names have warmed their way into my head now. So, like, your $74 is pretty well spent. So how would you say my name if I was a $74 member? Give me an example. Like, they might call you, like, I would think of Jan Ardeen. Like, I would call you Jan Ardeen, like, of, like, Ardeen's, like, accessories. Okay. Or something like that. Like, they would just play with it a little bit. Oh, thank you, Sarah. Okay.

great I'll be here all night tip your server thank you how's your potato how's that um but I know they have like uh I forget what they like there's one woman who she it's her name and then realtor and they always yell realtor because she like included that in her name and it's just it's it's just very it's crazy and it works

Well, we're excited. 209 members. Let's carry on. We've got a lot to talk about in the show today. First and foremost, out of the box, traveling with Will. So Will had a birthday last week.

And you guys were traveling. We missed you last week, by the way, Caitlin, because you guys were in PEI, then you were in Halifax. Tell us a little bit about traveling with a youngster because he's not a baby no more. He's like, now you got it. Isn't he at the age where you have to pay for him the next time he's on a plane or does he get the whole year of two? No. So when they turn two, they have to have their own seat. So he flew with us as a two-seater on the way there and on the way home, he had his big boy seat. Oh.

He graduated. And I was really concerned about how he would handle his own seat. Like I was like, he'll have the seat, but he'll probably still want to sit on mom. Like that was my guess. He looked pretty chill from the picture.

Yes, I posted a video of him. He was like a businessman with a Bluetooth thing in his ear, like taking calls. He was boots up on the seat, having his bottle, like leaning back, like arm up, like he was a truck driver and he was watching his Miss Rachel. And he charmed everyone on this flight. Like when people walked on the flight, they saw him. He did his little chubby hand wave, but

He would give them a wink. He's like looking at the people behind him on the seats. They're playing peekaboo. And it's these like kind of weary looking travelers. Our flight had been canceled and then moved to a later time. So everyone's tired. Like some people have been at the airport for ages. And I really love watching him visibly brighten just about every single person's day. And I will say that by and large,

I feel like the club of parents who are traveling with children, it's like you're part of a team. You're part of a, you've joined the army together. You're in the same group of, you know, whatever they call that when you're in the army. You're, what do they call that? Like a battalion? Yeah. So everyone sticks together. You're like looking out for each other and,

again, overwhelmingly people are really nice to children on flights. I know we get it. Like we hear a lot about people complaining about kids on flights, but I have experienced quite the opposite. I don't mind kids on flights. I fly so much. I fly with kids. I've, I've, I've held a person's baby, you know, while they go to the bathroom. I mean, this is after you've been chatting with them for an hour, right?

And, uh, and I think I offered this woman, this was like four or five years ago. I said, Oh, I'll hang on. I mean, it was a baby baby. It wasn't like a person looking at me going, you're not my mother. This kid was, so she was just like handed me this kid and went to the bathroom because she was going to take her with her to the, I'm like, no, no, no, no. Oh yeah, exactly. What do you, there's not even room in the sink.

To place a child. No, you're holding the kid while you hover pee. Like it would be a nightmare. I feel, I really feel for people flying with children. Now, did you get to board first? Because they say people with small children, you get to go on first. That's when I always want a baby. They no longer do that. Oh, they no longer do that. Which is sick behavior from these airlines. Yeah. Anyways, when you hit like a certain number of miles for Air Canada, you get like E upgrades. Yeah.

So we had like a, like a free upgrade. So we actually got to fly business class, which is like, you know, and they're older planes. So you, Will and Kyle all went business. Yep. So you were beside Will and Kyle was beside you in the aisle. Yep. Okay. And I didn't realize like we'd been accruing these E upgrades. Like I, Kyle didn't even know what, like what, like we didn't really clock what they were.

And I was like, do you know how we could have been flying business for many a trip? But anyways, and like out to the Maritimes, like if it's available, if it's available, exactly. It has to be on the flight. Like it has to be on the physical plane. And don't imagine a pod here, everybody. Like it's not that's not happening to Halifax or PEI. Yeah. But but it was great. And like the service was fantastic and the staff were amazing. And so we did get to load in first.

And we really whittled down our... So shout out to Air Canada. Shout out to them. They were great. They get shit on a lot, but I love Air Canada. It's my favorite. Having said that though, I just did a little quick trip to Toronto, went to a Blue Jays game with a couple of friends. We flew Porter. Oh, how was that? Dirt cheap. It was awesome. Yeah, I like Porter. We had free Wi-Fi the whole way. And I'm talking Wi-Fi where you can...

stream Instagram, where you can look at TikTok, where you can do whatever. When you do normal airplane Wi-Fi, I will say Air Canada, you can't get shit. You're lucky if you can text. It's a waste of even filling out the thing to have Wi-Fi. Why bother? But on this, on Porter, you can see outside the aircrafts, the big white satellite dome collector dealie that is on top of the plane.

And it was fantastic. They went by two or three times with drinks, free shortbread cookies, free, I think they had pretzels. They had something else. Wine beer when you fly Porter, you get free drinks too. Everyone got a free glass of white or red wine or a beer. And in a glass. Well, I got a paper cup for my, I had a water and I just got a little paper cup, but

It was way better than Flair. It was better than Rouge. It was better than Air Transat. If you want to do a really cost-effective flight, if you're going to Toronto, Air Canada can ding you upwards of $800, $900 for a domestic flight.

economy flight. This was $425, $450. Round trip? Round trip. Same with me coming to you. I got a good deal like that too. Yeah. Porter's great. Round trip. So, you know, and it fluctuates. If you're booking the day before, yeah, you might end up paying $525. Round trip, folks. That's still $250 a direction. I paid $50 for my suitcase. Well, my friend Lisa did. She was just like, I'm paying for your suitcase, damn it. We're staying in your condo.

But yeah, try it. Try Pry Porter. And also factor in that you're flying in and out of city center. So if you're a downtown Torontonian or you're staying in downtown Toronto, it saves you that giant haul in from Pearson, which is nice. We landed in Pearson. Oh, you landed Pearson. Okay, okay.

They do both now. Yeah. They do both, but we landed in Pearson. And that may have been my bad, Caitlin. I may have booked it that way. I probably didn't even look at City Island. It was still better, though, honestly, because I flew Porter via Pearson for Calgary. It was still better than my last few WestJet, Flair, whatever experiences. It's not terrible.

And then next week. Oh, next week we're going to Washington. Where did you go? Next week at Washington for a podcast conference. And I'm flying Porter through the city airport that you're talking about, Caitlin. And that's so easy too. I love that. Especially if you have Nexus, which I know we've kind of talked about before. I love Nexus. In and out. I love my Nexus. And I did use it. And Lisa and Bev did have to stand in the other line. I do feel bad because when I got up to Nexus –

There was a woman ahead of me with her friend and she said, my friend doesn't have Nexus, but can I take her with me? Yeah, go ahead. I'm thinking, do I even tell them that I could have taken them with me? I ask every time and the answer changes every goddamn time. Okay. Yeah. In the pandemic.

They stopped allowing friends, but you could before the pandemic. Then after the pandemic, they said, oh, we're not doing that anymore. But on certain occasions, they have let me. Like, get your shit straight. I don't understand. I think we have to start calling it AP and AN. After pandemic and BP, before pandemic. Moving on, there's lots of interesting things to talk about. So the boxer and the Olympics. Yes.

who faced a lot of vitriol. A lot of you guys already know this story. Imane Khalif, Algerian female boxer, born female, does not identify as a transgender or anything of the sort. She's a woman from Algeria.

She faced so much vitriol, so much hatred of people accusing her of being a male, that she didn't qualify as a female. It's all a bunch of shit, to be honest. She was a woman.

who was blessed with a lot of strength physically. That is just her biology. And of course, she made very quick work of most of the female boxers. And in fact, she went on to win a gold medal in the Olympics. Well, she is now suing people like J.K. Rowling, Elon Musk,

Donald Trump. Twitter X. Yeah, Twitter X. So it was a sort of a blanket lawsuit, but she's literally going on after some people, like I said, you know, JK, who basically said hateful things to her.

This photograph is basically you looking at a man who just got away with punching a woman in the face. That was JK's comment. And Trump went on to say, I'm going to make sure that men don't get to compete in women's sports using her photograph from the Olympics. So she's suing ex-consultants.

and has named some of these people in the lawsuit. So it's going to be, any thoughts on that? I hope she wins just like she won the Olympics. Because honestly, it's crazy to me. This was a Russian disinformation campaign that started against her because there was a Russian run, I think it's like the International Boxing, it's called the IBA, International Boxing Association, something like that. A league which has now been discredited and like no one believes them, no one listens to them. But they basically said that they did a test on her

years ago where there was an XY chromosome found in like her test and tried to claim this about another time when he's boxer. And first of all, they've never produced the test or the methodology behind it ever. And it's also not entirely uncommon to have that chromosome if you have certain, you know, medical conditions or just like a hormone. Like there's lots of reasons why you might have that happen.

We don't even know if it did happen. And so that was sort of discredited. But then it's like it caught on because you have the vice presidential candidate running alongside Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, saying you've seen a man pummel a woman in the ring. And like Imani Khalifa has been beaten by women before. It's not as if she hasn't been beaten by women. And they're trying to make it sound like this is a man who's running around boxing rings beating up women.

And so, yeah. It's so ridiculous. Like they literally played her like she's got a penis under there. It's insane. And I hope she wins too, Caitlin. It's insane behavior. It's just like, it's just such a strange thing. And again, you have to ask yourself, why are they doing this? Like, what is the intent here? And it's just because this just, if this fires up all the people who, you know, make up their base,

And you're heading into a U.S. election, and this serves their messaging. This serves their galvanizing of their base. And that's why they're doing it. I would love to hear a conversation between Imane and the fellow boxer who also went through this from Taiwan, Lin-Yu Ting. How interesting would it be to hear how together they're dealing with all of this? Yeah, I would love that too.

Well, I love the fact that she's lodged a complaint in Paris and her lawyers are very serious about it. And I think the discouraging thing for me is, you know, obviously so many people loved the Harry Potter series. It was a phenomenon, a global phenomenon. There's no doubt about it. The movies, the books, the theme parks, everything.

the billions and billions and billions that these beloved characters have generated over the last, is it 20 years now that this has been going on? It's, it seems like it, it seems like it never was not here. It seems like Harry Potter, but JK has been so outspoken about transgender people and their place in society and where they should and should not be. And,

I just don't get where she's coming from. You know, she just keeps hitting the idea of men going into women's washrooms or transgender men or women going into various prisons. Her examples are so outlandish and so...

They're very lazy. But they are lazy and they're things that obviously need to be dealt with on an individual basis and not this big blanket statement. It's also statistically inaccurate too, right? When you think about it, it's like,

the transgender population is at much greater risk of being on the receiving end of violence and discrimination and assaults and sexual assaults than we are from them. So we're statistically again, just we're the risk to them versus them being the risk to us. So I don't, I think it's fear mongering. I don't think it makes a lot of sense. I don't think it's founded in logic. And I also love the, did you see that photo?

or video that was going around of her. She was doing some sort of like a video from her, her house and there's visible black mold. Yeah.

in the bathroom that she's in or the room she's in. And everyone's like, wait a minute, has black mold infected her brain? Like, are we dealing with like, is this, you know, is this going to be some sort of Victorian era illness that we discover? Because she's just living in a castle alongside a bunch of black mold. But correct me if I'm wrong. Like when you're an author and an author like someone this big, you would think that your brain is capable of

understanding fluid and changing things like,

That's where I don't understand how someone so creative is missing this part of their brain. I mean, don't forget that I think it was like, what is it? The one Asian character that existed in the Harry Potter universe is named Cho Chang. Yeah. I mean, creative, she may be. Creative in all areas, you know. Maybe not. Like, maybe not. Yeah. Two things can be true at once. Well...

I think she's going to lose. I think Elon's going to lose. Who knows what's going to happen to Donald Trump, but...

watching that dumpster fire these days, him, anything he does, anytime he opens his mouth, any, anything that they're doing, it has added such a sense of enjoyment to this election season. I can't even tell you the joy that I am deriving from what the hell's happening. It's, it's, it's comical. Yeah. It's definitely popcorn worthy.

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It ends with us. So they're calling it similar to the Barbenheimer phenomenon when we had these Oppenheimer and Barbie movies. They were exploding at the box office. Well, they're saying that Deadpool, which is Ryan Reynolds' big movie, Deadpool 3, and his wife, Blake Lively, has died.

adapted this very, very, very popular movie, It Ends With Us, and that these two movies are going to recreate that box office success. Now, having said that, this thing that you sent me, Caitlin, was one of the worst reviews I think I've ever read in my life. So talk to me a little bit about

what the drama is with these people. Apparently, the guy that directed it and Blake Lively can't stand each other. Okay, so I don't know if you recall, but there was that press tour for Don't Worry Darling. This was the movie that was directed by Olivia Wilde. It starred Harry Styles, Florence Pugh, Chris Pine. Anyway, so there was allegedly drama in some way within the cast. Of course, Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles were romantically involved. So the...

The nature of the red carpet appearances by the cast and whether or not they got along or followed each other or whatever, the red carpet press leading up to the release of the film almost eclipsed the release of the film itself, which is now exactly what's happening with It Ends With Us. This is based on a novel about domestic violence by an author named Colleen Hoover, who, again, this is just my editorial. I am now upset that I'm even aware of her work because I've just started perusing it and it's not,

for me. So I blame Blake Lively for that one. But so Justin Baldoni is the producer and the director. And then Blake Lively is also a producer on it, an executive producer. I think Ryan Reynolds might be also. And because they're this powerhouse Hollywood couple. Yeah. Let's start out by saying that there's a rabid fan base of Colleen Hoover readers, some

Some of which I'm likely just offended. I'm sorry about that. But they were really, really anticipating this film and it deals with domestic violence. So it's a very serious topic. So there's a lot of attention going into this, like, you know, and because it's Blake Lively and blah, blah, blah. So then everyone notices that no one in the cast follows Blake.

Justin Baldoni, the director and producer, it's bizarre. And he also stars in it. So he stars in it opposite Blake Lively. So they're not following his social media. No. And whenever they're asked about him on red carpets, like what it was like working with him, no one answers. No one answers it. They dance around it.

And she isn't seen in any photos with him doing any press. They're not like the appearances that they had together were almost non-existent. Like they were very limited. And so now everyone so far, the dominant rumor is that Baldoni was quote unquote creatively railroaded by Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds during the movie's post-production.

Now other people believe that he did something to make her uncomfortable on set. And that's why the rest of the cast has sided with her and unfollowed him. And they don't seem to have a relationship with him.

So now there's like all this speculation. My life is so boring. I know. That's the truth. Honestly, the true takeaway is that our regular boring lives are probably much more peaceful. But as this reviewer pointed out, again, the estimation of this movie is that it's like doing well at the box office, but it's not being critically very well received.

It's not like necessarily quite good. It's just got some star power. Yeah, it has some star power. But then also Blake Lively, as she's doing her promo for this movie, is doing things like promoting her hair care line on red carpets where they're asking you about domestic violence. And some of her answers have been very flippant. When she's asked what she loves about the character, it's very like,

Oh, I love her fashion. Oh, and then it's like, you know, what do you, what, what's so meaningful to you tonight about being on this red carpet? And she's like that I'm wearing JLo's dress from 1994. Like she's giving very flippant kind of seemingly unaffected, disconnected from the themes answers. Whereas Justin Baldoni is very like in on it. And he's talking about domestic violence and saying like,

This movie isn't important to me. It's important to domestic violence survivors and yada, yada. So I think the general public has received this as Blake Lively cringe, Justin Baldoni, not so cringe, which is interesting because she and Ryan Reynolds are so beloved that it's been like the internet has taken on a side that I like everybody else. It's like when you see people that rise so high and that can do no wrong, I feel like the general population is,

the troll population is always looking for a reason to pull these people down. So I'm definitely going to go see the movie. A, I love Blake Lively. I really do. I think, you know, she's entrepreneurial. I do love her and Ryan together. I think they're such a success story. And sorry, I'm going to cheer on people that have

not only bolstered and supported so many different industries, you know, Ryan's involved in sports. You know, he took that Welsh team from oblivion and bankruptcy and has turned them into this phenomenon. And they do so many good things. You're not going to find a Canadian in the world who will discredit Ryan Reynolds. Like, it won't, it will not happen. Yeah, they both are, they both are just...

I just love what they do. I will cheer them on as long as they're walking the planet. And I also take all the shit with a grain of salt from her movie. And I know for a fact, not that I've walked a lot of red carpets and not that I'm anywhere near a Blake Lively status in life, but I know that sometimes you are asked to

bizarre questions like, what are you wearing? Can you fuck off? This is a bra from Winners and pants that used to be my mother's. Like, I've often said things that are flippant and kind of silly myself on there. I've answered questions because...

They're just looking who the next person is coming down the line. And I don't think they're always the most respectful journalists. Like they're there to get their sound bites and they want to get out. I think the criticism of her has almost been the reverse though, where she is being asked serious questions about domestic violence and her answers are very, here's what I'm wearing. No, but that's what I mean. You just get sick of that stuff. You just want to have fun. It's a celebratory night. So...

Anyway, the only thing I'll say, like, again, I don't know what happened. Like I'm literally just telling you what the rumors are online. I have no idea what actually happened. I will say that even if I was super frigging sick of being asked the same questions that were kind of heavy, like the tone of them is heavy because the tone of the movie is heavy.

I would have expected that at this stage in her career. And as long as she's been a public figure, I did expect a little bit better media training from her. Like, I think that some of the answers and everything just, it just didn't land and that can happen. Like, I'm not saying that she's some bad person. That's the most I'll, I'll, I'll critique it where I'm like, Oh, that's just like, that's just bad. Knowing how far her hands were into the film in terms of like being an executive producer and all of that.

I would be interested to hear how it was received from a like domestic abuse survivor. I'm going to ask my friend who does that podcast on the network and see what she thinks. That would be an interesting take. Oh my God, ask her. Yeah. Dying to know. Yes. Or we can ask her. Well, I'm very, my curiosity is really peaked to go see it. Yeah. Not that I want to see anyone being abused or assaulted or anything like that, but I'm interested in why this story is taken on what it's taken on. But yeah. Yeah.

I love them. I just want them to be on the show someday. And if we say shit, then it's not going to happen. I really love Ryan Reynolds. And they've done so much stuff for Sick Kids. And they do seem like just such a wonderful, happy couple. So this has been surprising. But it's not unusual in the world of entertainment for the internet to pick up a plot line that they create and run with it.

So I'd love to know what actually happened. But I will say the fact is nobody follows this director and nobody will talk about him when they're asked on a red carpet. So something did happen. I just don't know what the heck it is. We're going to find out. Caitlin, our entertainment reporter, is going to get back to you next week. Sarah is going to do some digging. We have a person doing a podcast on the Women in Media Podcast Network called

that is going to fill in some of these gaps. It's called Ladies Take Control, Katie Mara's. Ladies Take Control. So you can listen to it after you listen to us today. Quick little shout out here to my friend in New Zealand, Liz Parsons.

Liz did a really, really charming Instagram story this morning, and then I'll send it to you girls. But she was talking about, I have a favorite podcast, and it is Jan Arden Podcast in Canada. She's a singer-songwriter author. She was talking about us. But she said at night she likes to listen to the birds. Just she loves. That's her podcast is nature. She walks out.

walks her neighborhood and you can imagine what the birds sound like in New Zealand. On this particular clip, I'm like, where are you? In the middle of the jungle? You know, it was just like, get into the house, run. There's shit coming after you. Meanwhile, she's very relaxed. It's like her meditation and we're afraid. Yeah. She's just loving it. And also speaking of all things podcast, we do have a new sponsor that we love. Now listen, I have loved Cove.

long before Cove loved me. Okay. I'm just going to put that out there. And they are part of our team now. They've stepped up and they're like, you know what, Chan, Caitlin and Sarah, we love you too. So they have sent Caitlin and Sarah and I a gurney of sodas. And I am not kidding you. It's crazy. It is nuts. So I have before you today, this is the orange. I have the ice pop.

This is the cherry. Cream soda. So we thought... Wait, I'm going to ASMR open this. Okay, okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, a couple of things we can go through. They are Canada's first all-natural zero-sugar soda. One billion probiotics. Well, that was an Austin Powers reference in 2024. One billion probiotics. Okay.

And they're organic and they want to promote gut health. Like it's a way to have, you know, a treat, but it's like guilt free. It really is. Listen, if you've got kids and you don't want them drinking diet, anything like all that crap that you can ingest, the colors, the everything that these are really on. So this is Sarah. What do you got going there?

You've put a cola on ice. Oh my God, I'm obsessed. I've been having one of these flavors on ice every day. Hot tip, combine the lime and the cola for like a really fresh lime cola. Okay, because I have the lime here. You should combine them. It's the best thing ever. Okay. Lime and the cola. See ingredients? I just want to tell you.

Okay, cool. You've got 70 milligrams of sodium. It's only 3% of your daily. Vitamin C, 80%. Oh, yeah. There's 80% of your vitamin C intake. Yeah, there's 72 milligrams of vitamin C in this. And all that's in there is some natural flavor, stevia extract, Himalayan salt, you know, some of the normal things that you would find that have probiotics. I'm not going to try and say those words, but bacillus subtilis. Okay.

And, um, absorbic acid, which is your vitamin C. I think what you meant to say was phyllostylar. Yes. Yes. No. Um, this is delicious. Okay. Childhood racing back into my childhood, those popsicles, those three colored popsicles. The rocket. That looked exactly like this can't the rocket. I haven't tasted this yet. I saved it for you guys today because this is their new summer flavor.

This is my favorite one so far. Delicious. Doesn't it taste like it? The little popsicle is right there on the can, which I just noticed. It's so freaking good, this Cove Soda. I can't tell you how weird that flavor is. You know when you just sort of go back in time? I feel so nostalgic these days. Suddenly you're 10 years old. Exactly. Yes. And you guys might be a little young for this because I'm 20-odd years older than these women. I thought you were 21 total.

Okay, fine. Let's just leave it there. Okay. Can we just leave it there? The thing of it is, as I get older, you're going to get older with me. So I'm very, very relieved about that.

But I remember, and you guys may remember this, imagine going to cottage country, you know, a middle of a hot July day and you go to the little confectionary, your, what do you guys call it? Convenience stores? We call them confectionaries. They always had the pot machines outside the stores, like rain or shine. And you would lift the lid and pull a glass bottle up through these steel doors.

that would open. Do you remember that at all? I never had glass bottles. And then the opener was on the outside of the pot machine. The bottles were massacred from pulling them out. So they got recycled, recycled, recycled.

I don't know why, but this flavor, I'm racing through a time tunnel. And these guys also have cream soda, root beer, ginger ale, orange, lime, cherry. It literally tastes great. I wanted to have this with vanilla ice cream to make a root beer float. I just didn't have any ice cream. So good. So good. Okay. We'll give the, I'm going to try the cherry. Try the cherry. Okay. I have to say this about the ice pop while you're tasting. Okay.

So I was at a get together with all my friends with children yesterday, like our call it summer reunion. We can only see each other like quarterly. It feels like these days, all the kids,

the ice pop flavor. And the second best was raspberry, but they loved the ice pop flavor. Cove has raspberry. Yeah, and orange. Okay, like I said, I got another delivery yesterday that went to my friend Nadine's because I live out in the country. She's like, you got more Cove sodas. I said, what in Jesus' name is going on? Anyway, the cherry is fantastic. It tastes like BC cherries. This also would be very good in a float. Mmm.

They have a Dr. Cove, like a cherry. They have a Dr. Cove. I'm looking at my stack. There's like, there's root beer. I'm looking at your stack too. There's orange cream soda, Dr. Cove, which is like Dr. Pepper. Then there's grape, grapefruit, then lemon lime, ice pop. There's grapefruit. So like there's a lot and I will, I would imagine I have yet to try this, but I'm going to Prince Edward County for like a long weekend adventure with friends next weekend.

I'm going to bring these and mix them with vodka. And I bet you it would be so good. Yes. There you go. I think they support that. They better. Kove, thank you. Thank you for your generosity, for one thing. Where you can find it, we should say. Go. Yes, do it. You've got a list. So they've got variety packs in Costco's in Canada and the U.S. right now.

And we have some exciting news about where they're launching coming soon. But if you go to JanArdenPaw.com, we've got a Cove page up there. And there's a little store locator so you can find out like if the Sobeys near you has it because they are in other places. The first time I found these sodas, which was probably over a year ago, I found them in Co-op.

You know where they get you going into the checkouts? They have the gum and the candy bars and they have magazines. And sometimes they have a couple of balloons tied onto the cash register. There was these Cove sodas sitting there. And very clever, Co-op had them sunk in ice. So it was last summer. And I'm thinking, I'll just get that. I didn't even know what it was. And because I gave up Diet Coke...

I don't know, years ago now. I think I've had a couple over the years that I've broken down.

But it's just not great for you to drink it. So I was always looking for a pop to drink. And so I love this. And it's not aspartame, guys. It's stevia. And normally I'm not a sweet, like, drink person. I'll have a flavored soda water but without any sugar. But I will say that sometimes, and especially in the summer, you do kind of want one. Like if I'm having popcorn or if I'm having something salty, I do want something sweet to kind of offset it.

and this is good because it doesn't have any calories in it, so I don't feel bad about that, and I feel good about what is in it. You know, if you're someone who kind of likes, like, the tang or the, like, the citrus side of things, then you want to go for, like, the lemon-lime or the cherry, but if you are craving, like, sweet, go, like, root beer, cream soda. Ice pop. Ice pop. Yeah, the ice pop is great. They're all good. You know that rule in baseball? Like, if you strike out, you're supposed to bring your team beer. Have you guys heard of that? Yeah. Yeah.

So, I mean, I do that a lot. But last week I brought a whole lot of Cove sodas with me and I was like,

Grab whatever you want, guys. What do you mean if you strike out? If you're not performing for your team, you're on beer duty for the next week. Oh. Yeah. So I just brought a bunch of cove and I was like, please, everybody enjoy. I live in a one bedroom condo. I don't know where to put all this stuff. Well, they're stacked in my pantry and I'm not giving them away to people. I'm going to hoard them. But I do a couple. I do like a couple every day. I do one a day for sure. Once again, cove.

You know where to find them. You can go on to our page. You can go into the show notes. You can find more information about them. Especially if you've got kids or not kids. I'm a big kid. I'm always going to be a big kid. Vodka, right? You can add to vodka. I highly recommend it alongside skinny pop popcorn. I'm just going to say that's my snack right now is I'll have a Cove soda with a skinny pop popcorn and like maybe some olives. And that's my snack. With olives? Yes.

No, like as another option off to the side. Cause I'm trying to go low calorie cause I'm back on new. Why are you back on new? I went ham on biscuits and lobster while we were away. And I never watched what I eat on vacation. Cause that's not fun. Yeah. Did you put on some weight? Oh yeah. Big time.

So what's big time to you? Listen, I don't want to, you don't have to answer this, but what's big time? Is it three pounds to you? Well, big time to me again, like big time to me. And I'm like, I'm now people are going to hear me say the number and be like, shut the hell up, which is like, which is fine. I'm not, I don't want to know what you weigh, but for you on a two week vacation, if you put on five pounds, is that crazy?

Yeah, like that, you know, that that's gonna I know what that will take to get off. And so that's like, oh, that's gonna be work. But I also wasn't necessarily being super cautious with what I was eating before we went away either. I didn't like have I've been living my life. And so I gained I've gained about 10 pounds.

I would say more than like what my goal like baseline is, which is not, and it's not an unrealistically low number. We talk about weight on this show for sure. Yeah. And so I was just like, oh, I'm going to go back on a Noom kick because that's why I like that is I can just start tracking what I'm eating and be more conscious of it. And I noticed that the weight comes off fairly easily because like I am active also. So Noom is an app. It's N-O-O-M. They should also sponsor us by the way. Yeah. And it's calorie counting app.

Maybe I should go on Noom. I don't know. In a perfect world, I would love to probably lose 15 pounds. That's not, you know, I think in a perfect world, but my happiness is not contingent on that. And I'm quite, I like how my clothes look. I'm all, you know, I'm in there. I'm in the hot tub. I'm putting on bathing suits. Do you know what I mean? I'm not...

But I think as I'm getting older, I don't want that 15 pounds to turn into 50 pounds. And so that's what happens. And I find seasonally I gain weight when I'm at cottages and I'm traveling in the summer and I'm not exercising as much. Like,

I'll gain a little bit of like holiday weight, Christmas weight, whatever you want to call it. And then the same thing with sometimes in the summer. And so that just means to me that if I'm doing that twice a year and I don't then adjust afterwards, you just continually carry that year over year. And so I am just aware of the role that that plays. So like today I've logged my Noom already and I've put in like I've logged my breakfast and my mid-morning snack and

I've already achieved my steps goal. I went to a Pilates class and I put all this stuff in and it's like all there. It'll like tell me everything here that I need to know. It has my weight loss zone at the top for calories, how many calories I've already consumed. And when I stick to this, like I do see results. So that would hook into your Apple like steps counter, right? Like your Apple health.

Oh, no, it does, actually. You're right. It does, Sarah. How would it count the steps into the app, right? A thousand percent. So it does it with your phone. Your phone's not always super accurate, so I will say that. Yeah. Like if you have like an... One of these guys. Yeah. If you have an Aura or if you have a Whoop, I don't know that it communicates directly with those two, but I don't have them, so I don't know. But so all... It just gives you a general estimate. Like it... Does it connect to your MyFitnessPal for like...

where you put your meals or you put your meals directly into Noom? - You put your meals directly into the Noom app. And at the bottom, you'll have like, you input different data. And so today I just said that I did a low intensity 60 minute Pilates class. - Is Pilates ever low intensity?

Kind of like it, they base it off of it's, it's really common sense. They tell you, here's how they gauge if it's hard or not. Low intensity is easy breathing and a little sweat, like a casual walk, which is kind of how I found it. Then medium intensity would be quicker breaths, moderate sweat and talking takes effort. I haven't had that. That was not my intensity of Pilates today.

And then high intensity, heavy breathing, lots of sweat, talking nearly impossible. And so it put an hour long light Pilates class at 250 calories burned, which is pretty good.

So it's guessing what the calories are. It's guessing. It's totally guessing. And so the results are really in what happens on the scale after about a week or two. And it's a slow intro, Jan. If you wanted to join this. It's about $30 a month, isn't it? I think so, but I have a promo, so it's not as much right now. Do you have a promo that if you get a friend to join, you get? I think I do, actually. Should we try all together? Yeah.

We could. I love it. And then they really do need to sponsor. I'll try it. I'll try Noom. I'll try it. I'll sign up when we're done. But look, get back to me when we're finished the podcast today and let me know if there's some kind of a, if you get, they must have, if you get people to join, we will help you give them a discount or whatever. Like a referral deal. They should. Yeah.

The things that should sponsor me personally, like stuff that I... Well, my Cove is going to be like a free ride. So that's why I do my Skinny Pop or like regular, just like a natural pop popcorn and olives when I get a salt craving. Or like you can have dill pickles or whatever works for you. That's my midnight snack. I love olives. Yeah. And they're salty and I love a salt. You get bad dreams. What? Bad dreams with olives. Really bad dreams. I get terrible dreams with olives. That's so weird.

It's like end of the world. I'm being chased and, and I'm growing a beard dreams like those kinds of dreams. I've never heard of anyone having bad dreams from all of us. Never knew. Anyway, listen, we, we, we need to wrap this up. We're going to do our Patreon bonus material. So don't, when you finish here,

Patreon folks, you will be able to click on and see us talking about breakdancing in the Olympics. The Ray Gunn saga. Jen is stopping you. Hold your horses. They're not going to get that here. So thank you for listening. Thank you, Cove. Thank you, Intact. Thank you, you know, all our sponsors at Wonder Bra. I'm wearing my Wonder Bra right the frick now. Me too, guys.

Guys, I'm wearing my Wonder Bra right now. One of my Wonder Bras that I ordered, and it was not, it did not say sports bra. It's the best fucking sports bra. It's like a minimizer. It's very comfy.

And there's no underwire. So I'm using it as a sports bra. So thank you, Wonder Bra. They are a great, it's a great summer bra. I will say that because it's light and there's no underwire. I don't need a minimizer. I need a maximizer. Look, no lines. Great travel bra. Yeah. Great travel bra. Listen, before we go away, we're going to play you some voice notes because that is part of our weekly show. So without any further ado, Sarah's got them queued up and we thank you. Keep leaving those voice notes.

Jan Arden Pod is our handle across all the social platforms. So you can find us. Patreon, sign up, five bucks. And I just want to mention her name because she sent me a message and was like, oh, I finally figured out how to send a voice note. I just want to very quickly. Carol. Carol Hempstead Sloot figured it out. I don't know which one of these is her, but let's listen to some voice notes. Here we go. Hi, Jan, Caitlin, Sarah.

Just wanted to send you a quick note to say I'm Julie from London, Ontario. Been listening to your podcast since the beginning, and I really do enjoy listening to you talk, the banter, the laughter, just an overall, you know, fun conversation to listen along to. And I really find that it really does make my week. We're like a drug. So...

Also wanted to just mention how excited I am that you have Cove Soda on board. I love Cove Soda. One of the best probiotic drinks I've tried. Really do just want to say thanks to you guys for what you're doing. And I look forward to your podcast for next week. Take care. Love you guys. Bye. I love that.

Thank you. Well, we love you too. That's so nice. That wasn't even planned, the Cove Soda. Here's another one. Oh, for fuck's sakes. Oh, hello, ladies. I'm just listening back to some of the older shows, and I came across the one talking about the fires in Hawaii. And, Jan, you had said that you purchased a fire ladder to save yourself and the little puppers. Yes.

I was just wondering how that worked out for you because you said you were going to make a few test runs and put a weighted backpack on and go down. So I'm just wondering, I'm just curious how that you made out with that as that seems like a very good purchase. And perhaps depending on your review, I might get one. Please enlighten me. Okay. Well, you have to get one.

Okay, I got the ladder and I'm going to put a video up on Patreon. I will show you where it is. So it's in a bag. I leave it on my deck. I'm like, first I had it in my house and I'm like, why the fuck are you having it in the house at the back door? What if that's on fire? So it's outside in its bag on the deck. It's super easy to unzip. So my friend was here with me and we took it out of the bag. It's plenty long enough. There's maybe three feet missing at the bottom. You can handle that jump. I can handle that.

So we took it, I put it on my railing and I gently put it down. Now listen, in a fire, I'm not going to gently put it down because I have glass, um, a glass railing. So I didn't want to bust the glass and hurt myself. And I don't want to break the glass when I'm climbing down there. So I haven't put a weighted backpack on. That's a very good question. I did get on a chair and

And I went on the other side of the deck and went down like three rungs. I can do it. No problem. I can do it with Poppy. I can, I could do it with him stuffed. I'm thinking adrenaline, but I definitely, I do need a chair to stand on a chair, put my leg over the balcony and start crawling down this ladder that is hooked to big metal hooks on the railing. And then, like I said, I've got a three foot,

maybe even two and a half foot that it doesn't quite hit the ground but fuck that's better than going 18 feet your deck sounds very high I'm high so I'm on an escarpment so the front of my house looks like a ranch style Sarah's been there but where my bedroom is it's three full stories at the back of my house so the top of the house would be I would say 60 feet oh geez okay

Yeah. And then it goes down from there. So yeah, it's, I'm going to say I'm definitely on the third floor, but anyway, thank you for asking that. And I am prepped. I'm ready. I've done it.

And I'm going to show you a picture of the bag out there, but you definitely need, I feel a lot better that I've got that fucking ladder. It's ridiculous and I might break my leg, but you know what? Poppy and I will live. Here is our last one for the week. Good morning, Sarah and Jan. This is Angelique from the Annapolis Valley. Hey, what about me? I was just listening to your podcast on liking the feeling of new friendships. Must have been last week. I know that love bombing is a thing. Have you ever been friend bombed?

What is love bombing? Let's look this up. A form of psychological and emotional abuse disguised as excessive flattery, over-the-top, gift-giving, and needy or jealous behavior. So she's talking about that. Oh, yeah. No, I've heard of love bombing, but friend bombing, is it the same thing than a friend does it? Yeah, but like trying to go after your friendship rather than like court you. I have been friend bombed. Oh. But it was love bombed in disguise. Oh, dun, dun, dun.

Okay. I don't think I've been friend bombed. I think that some people come on too strong for the point that you're at in your friendship. And I have experienced that where it's like, I would, I would call it an acquaintance, but they are clearly thinking it's something else.

Okay, that's fair. Sarah, you friend-bomb me so bad. What do you mean? No, it's not a true story. But I think one of our early experiences together involved a friend-bomb though. No, I... Which we can just leave it at that. Okay, let's leave it at that.

We'll have to talk about what that is after we get, maybe that's a Patreon. That's what we call a tease in radio. That's a tease. Okay. I'm going to say goodbye. Caitlin Green, Sarah Burke, Patreon, $5. You can sign up now and you can be first in line to come and see us live October the 1st in Toronto. Watch for it. Eventbrite. Watch for it. It's not announced yet. It's not on the books yet. It's going to come. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time. Toodaloo.

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