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Kate Bowler: Know Your Own Belovedness

2024/4/19
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Kate Bowler: 分享了她对悲伤、慢性疼痛和疾病的经历,以及她如何通过写作和播客来帮助他人。她强调了在面对挑战时采取行动的重要性,以及进行关于悲伤和压力的真实对话的必要性。她还讨论了医助死亡的复杂性,以及人们在寻求帮助时可能面临的经济和社会障碍。她鼓励人们在生活中感受自身的价值和被爱,无论好坏。她还批判了人们对积极性和情绪掌控的过度追求,认为这是一种文化脚本,会给人们带来压力。她认为人们应该摆脱“应得”的观念,并通过脆弱来建立爱和联系。 Caitlin Green: 分享了她因丧子之痛而寻求帮助,并发现Kate Bowler的作品对其疗愈过程至关重要,因为Kate的作品真实地展现了悲伤,而不是回避或美化它。她还分享了她被解雇的经历,以及人们往往会为了让别人感到舒服而掩盖生活中的困境。她认为经历困境可以让人成长,并能与经历相似困境的人产生共鸣。她还谈到了人们对持续快乐的追求是不现实的,以及坦诚地表达自己的感受是重要的。 Jan Arden: 讨论了医助死亡的复杂性,特别是对于那些患有身心残疾、面临经济困难的人来说,医助死亡可能成为他们唯一的选择。她还分享了她如何克服困难,并提到母亲的阿尔茨海默症帮助她学会向朋友寻求帮助。她独自处理疾病的经历,以及这种做法带来的孤独感。她还谈到了人们往往会避免与悲伤或困境相关的话题,这源于对未知和不理解的恐惧。她还分享了她对虚假安慰的厌恶,以及她对信仰的个人看法。 Sarah Burke: 指出“正念”一词被过度使用,并将其与一种情绪控制的表演联系起来。她认为人们对情绪的过度关注导致了对各种人类情绪的妖魔化。她还坦诚地表达了她有时不想承担他人问题的感受,并指出在快节奏的生活中,人们难以应对各种挑战。她还谈论了与老朋友分享悲伤和创伤经历的重要性,以及与不太熟悉的人分享个人经历的困难。

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Kate Bowler and Jan Arden discuss the importance of authentic conversations about grief and the need to support each other through difficult times.

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This week's guest is the incredible Kate Bowler! She is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, award-winning podcast host, and an Associate Professor of American Religious History at Duke University.

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Jann and Kate discuss the importance of taking action in the face of challenges, the need for authentic conversations about grief, and the pressure to always be positive. They also touch on the topic of medically assisted dying and the complexities surrounding it. Kate Bowler shares her personal experiences with chronic pain and how it inspired her latest book, 'Have a Beautiful, Terrible Day,' which offers bite-sized reflections for navigating ups and downs in life. In this conversation, Kate Bowler discusses the challenges of navigating grief and supporting others in times of difficulty. They explore the concept of being overwhelmed by other people's problems and the need to set boundaries. They also discuss the role of religion and spirituality in coping with hardship and finding a sense of community. The conversation emphasizes the importance of vulnerability, love, and self-compassion in helping each other through tough times.

More about Kate Bowler:

Kate studies the cultural stories we tell ourselves about success, suffering, and whether (or not) we’re capable of change. She is the author of *Blessed: A History of the American Prosperity Gospel *and The Preacher’s Wife: The Precarious Power of Evangelical Women Celebrities. After being unexpectedly diagnosed with Stage IV cancer at age 35, she penned the *New York Times *bestselling memoir, *Everything Happens for a Reason (and Other Lies I’ve Loved) *and No Cure For Being Human (and Other Truths I Need to Hear). She has also co-written with Jessica Richie, spiritual reflections: Good Enough: 40ish Devotionals for a Life of Imperfection and *The Lives We Actually Have: 100 Blessings for Imperfect Days. *Kate’s most recent book, Have a Beautiful, Terrible Day! Daily Meditations for the Ups, Downs, and In-Betweens, is packed with bite-sized reflections and action-oriented steps to help you get through the day, be it good, bad, or totally mediocre. Kate hosts the award-winning Everything Happens podcast where, in warm, insightful, often funny conversations, she talks with people like Malcolm Gladwell and Beth Moore about what they’ve learned in difficult times. She lives in Durham, North Carolina with her family and continues to teach do-gooders at Duke Divinity School.

https://katebowler.com/)

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Jann, Caitlin & Sarah also talked through some comments from listeners from last week's episode surrounding medically assisted death - stay tuned for next episode but here is the article that was referenced during this week's show:

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-are-15-times-more-canadians-than-californians-choosing-assisted-death)

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