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Zelensky Is A PAWN Stuck Between NATO & Ukrainian Neo-N@zis!

2025/3/5
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Aaron Maté
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Chuck Grassley
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Derek Van Orden
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Hillary Clinton
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Keir Starmer
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Mark Levin
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Matt Gaetz
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Michael McCaul
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Pete Hegseth
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Ro Khanna
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Stephen F. Cohen
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Stephen F. Cohen: 我认为人们没有充分理解的是,乌克兰新总统泽连斯基竞选时是和平候选人,他获得了压倒性的胜利,获得了71%或72%的选票,这代表着乌克兰人民渴望和平。这意味着他必须与普京谈判。然而,他与普京直接谈判的意愿,与他的前任波罗申科不同,需要极大的勇气,因为乌克兰国内存在反对力量,而且这些反对力量是武装的。泽连斯基为了实现和平,必须冒着生命危险与普京谈判。 乌克兰国内存在极端民族主义者,他们威胁说如果泽连斯基继续走和平路线,他们就会把他从广场的灯柱上吊死。因此,我同情泽连斯基的处境,因为他确实是一位和平候选人,71%的选票表明乌克兰人民渴望和平,但他却受到了生命威胁。我认为这种情况至今仍在持续。 特朗普与泽连斯基的通话是错误的,但更重要的是,我们需要了解特朗普是否鼓励泽连斯基继续与普京谈判。泽连斯基无法在没有美国支持的情况下与普京进行全面和平谈判,因为他的生命受到了乌克兰极端分子的威胁。除非白宫鼓励这种外交努力,否则泽连斯基根本没有机会结束战争。因此,利害关系非常重大。 Aaron Maté: 2019年10月,众议院民主党人正准备弹劾特朗普,并声称他暂停对乌克兰的武器供应是对国家安全的严重威胁。还记得他们想因为特朗普所做的最好的事情而弹劾他吗?暂停向乌克兰运送武器? Matt Gaetz: 我认为泽连斯基是一个骗子,他贪污钱财,并且想延长战争。但是,我必须承认,他受到了来自世界各地许多不同类型的人的压力,这些人迫使他继续这场战争,其中包括世界上最有权势的人和一些最大的杀手。我正在对那些支持泽连斯基的共和党人展开猛烈攻击,包括众议员史蒂夫·沃马克、迈克尔·麦考尔、参议员查克·格拉斯利,以及那些一直都在欺骗美国人民,让他们把数千亿美元送往另一场毫无意义的战争的共和党新保守派。 Ro Khanna: 向乌克兰提供武器只会加剧冲突,导致更多乌克兰人丧生。我们的政府应该积极促进谈判解决问题,而不是提供更多致命武器。 其他人:其他参与者表达了对乌克兰局势的各种观点,包括对泽连斯基的批评、对美国支持乌克兰的质疑以及对乌克兰新纳粹主义存在的担忧。

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  • Jake Tapper co-authored a book titled "Original Sin", addressing President Biden's decline.
  • The book release is analyzed as a potential publicity stunt, capitalizing on the controversy surrounding Tapper's past reporting.
  • The discussion touches on journalistic integrity and the timing of reporting controversial information.

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In 2019 historian and Russia expert Stephen F. Cohen sat down with journalist Aaron Maté to discuss Ukraine’s newly elected President, Volodymyr Zelensky, and the threats he faced from neo-Nazi militants in his own country who were pressing to escalate the civil war in the east of Ukraine despite Zelensky running on a peace platform.

Zelensky, of course, caved to the pressure from these ultranationalist elements, as well as NATO, both of whom wanted Ukraine to go to war with Russia, and now we face the end game which could mean the end for Zelensky’s presidency, and worse.

Plus segments on Putin’s offer of Russian rare earth metals to the United States, a Zelensky supporter bawling over his treatment by Donald Trump and Joy Behar begging Elon Musk not to sue her after she claimed, falsely, that he supported apartheid in South Africa.

Also featuring Stef Zamorano, Kurt Metzger and Mike MacRae. And a phone call from Jake Tapper!