#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad
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Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast. Oh, hey, fella. What's up? What's going on, man? Good, good. It's good to see you. Good to be back. Yeah, brother. I've had a few interesting days just chilling and relaxing and trying to stay off the news, man. And then this morning someone sent me a

A video of Bridget McCrone, McCrone's wife, fucking face slapping him. Yeah, that's wild. Dude, my favorite is the look into the camera once he realizes I got caught. Yeah, he's like, oh. It's very, you could put the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme song right after that. Imagine what goes on behind closed doors. If someone's bitch slapping you on a private jet, what is that?

Yeah. That's a weird relationship, man. Well, she was his teacher. If it was a she. Oh, yeah. There's a whole like. There's a whole like, yeah. There's a whole like thing. Bro, Candace Owens did like five hours on it.

That's a little bit crazy. Yeah, she's the wrong dog to go after you. If you're trying to break into a house, that's the wrong guard dog. Right. She gets on something, she's like a pit bull. No, she really breaks down. I had a friend once show me her breakdown of, like, a Taylor Swift situation because I didn't know Candace talks about, like,

that sort of stuff as well. And I was like, oh, this is like a really in-depth breakdown of what's going on with Taylor Swift. That's crazy. Oh, she did the whole Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively thing and I'm eating popcorn. No.

But the fucking Bridget McCrone one is the craziest because I think she's right. I don't – obviously I don't know. But at the end of the day, the first thing you have to say is what kind of a 40-year-old dates a 14-year-old? Right, right. That's crazy.

Well, that's the thing. Even if it's a woman and a man. First of all, Kurt Masker says it's 14. I think the internet says it's 15. Kurt Masker goes about it. It's definitely 14. He was younger than that. Did you see me get cornered by him yesterday? Oh, my God. Bro, he just hit me with like seven different conspiracies in a row. I'm like, guys, guys, I'm gay.

cornered it's so hard to follow him all the time when you're just like okay I felt like a woman trapped at like an office party and the guy who's hitting on them like won't leave him alone they can't escape yeah have you ever seen that meme of that like girl at the party and the guy's just talking at him it's always like you know something about flat earth or something

But yeah, no, I saw that and I was like, that's crazy that this happened this morning. Crazy. But the facts of the situation, 40 and let's say 15. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. 15 is, I have a 15 year old. They're little kids, essentially. You know, they're like three years away from being an adult. Three whole years.

Well, you know what's interesting? I listen to a lot of true crime, and they'll say that pedophiles and stuff will put themselves in situations where they can abuse. Nickelodeon. Yeah, Nickelodeon. The Nickelodeon thing. It's like the Jimmy Savile thing in England. That's crazy. You're crazy. That's crazy. You're crazy. I was trying to explain to someone this week. I was like, imagine if Mr. Rogers was the biggest pedophile that ever existed. But also looked like one.

one yeah that's what's great like mr rogers looks like a sweet guy you know what i mean like back in the day like if a guy like mr rogers was teaching kids you wouldn't even get creeped out it's like oh he's just a sweet guy there's sweet people out there but jimmy salvo looks like a monster he looked like a monster like didn't look like a real person he looked like what was that fucking movie there was that movie that was based on a book oh my god uh johnny depp was in it

The guy from How I Met Your Mother was in it. This is not ringing any bells for me. It's a really weird book that's like half fantastic, half realistic, sort of almost Harry Potter-ish. The Secret Window? That's it. Okay. Let me see what it looks like. Based on a Stephen King thing? No, that's not it. Okay. No, no, no, no, no. No. It was like a recent... Fuck.

Is it like almost Harry Potter? Is it Magical Beast? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That movie? That's it. Oh, that's it. Yeah, it's Magical Beast. Yeah, yeah. He looks like an evil person in Magical Beast. Right, right. Like a bad wizard. He definitely looks like a bad wizard. He doesn't look like a real human. But I wonder too if like... Pull up a picture of Jimmy Savile. Let's look at that guy. I think it might be so hard to look past like everything...

Everything that he's done for us to not see the monster. It must have been like, oh. No, no, no. That's a monster. That's a monster. That's a monster. That's a monster. No matter what, that's a monster. That's a monster with the glasses. There's something about his eyes. Obviously, we know too much. Right. But look at this. Shirt open. No T-shirt underneath it. Chest hair.

fucking something around his neck that matches his shirt i guess a tie just around his neck he's a creeper yeah but at the time they were like oh he's just a british eccentric guy that's the we british are known for our weird people god yeah 50 years just and died and no one ever caught him no one ever caught him bbc covered it up crazy just let him get away you

Used to hang out at the hospitals that he would. Well, that's the Sandusky thing, too. Sandusky thing, same thing. Like, everybody knew about it. Oh, dude. Everyone knew about it, but they were winning. So they were like, dude, we win championships. That's the devil. If the devil's a real thing, that's where the devil lives.

It's very funny to me, at least, you know, that they exposed Sandusky after they went seven and six. They were like, they were winning for so long. And then they were like, seven and six. Is that really what happened? It was the same. They went, they had a horrible year. And then the next year, Sandusky, the Sandusky thing came out. They needed to make changes. He wasn't doing his job. I think he had already retired at that point, too. It was just crazy. Oh, well, that's even, yeah, that's when it's over because you're not valuable anymore.

Right. And so eventually. You got to Biden that motherfucker. You got to Pelosi that motherfucker right into the rocks. Right. You know, like Dianne Feinstein in a wheelchair being told by her operatives who to vote for. Right. That's what you got to do if you're Sam Bessinger. Drive that bitch into the rocks. Because if you get out, then they start investigating you. Like, what?

Like, whoa, stay active. Yeah, you got to keep achieving. Keep the con alive. Keep these people fed because they will feed you to the wolves. Right? If you're a corrupt politician, you got to stay in office. You can't retire. Right.

If you retire, you're open game. Because now you're, are you on a podcast, retired, talking shit? Let's get them. And they start auditing you. Everyone's got some fucking shady shit. They made way too much money. There's no way. There's no way it's not shady when you're worth $200 million and you make $170 grand a year. That's crazy.

Right, and then you have to stay. You have to. You gotta ride into the rocks. Also, there's something about that power that you don't want to give up on. 100%. Yeah. 100%. Some weird Darth...

Like the Emperor Palpatine. They all look like Emperor Palpatine. Every politician looks like Emperor Palpatine when they're old. It's crazy. The weight of it all weighing on you. You know what I'm saying? Like you have to know that you're like, man, I'm like at a certain point, I'm fucking over so many people. Right. It's got to weigh on your soul. Hopefully. I think the best people age the hardest.

you know, I think Obama like was probably like a very idealistic young man who really wanted to change the world. Yeah. That dude aged more than anybody. Well,

Well, in 2000, I mean, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, Trump. Trump. Trump just fucking. This is something that. He just brushed that shit off his shoulders like it was nothing. This is something that Derek said to me in like 2018 once we were talking about. He's like, I don't know because he's not a big politics guy, but it's like, I don't know if I trust Trump. His hair is not getting gray. What kind of politician doesn't get gray hairs? This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Have you ever been shopping online and the website just gave you the ick?

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Well, the hair itself, he makes one of his own hair. He was on stage talking about his comb over. Yeah, he's funny. He does stand up. He's doing stand up. Regardless of what you think about him, foreign policy, economics, regardless.

The guy is doing stand-up. He can work a room. Well, that's why none of them can fuck with him because he can go on a podcast easy because he does these stadiums where he just goes out and starts talking shit. He does Biden impressions. He does Biden water around the room. He doesn't know where he is. He's funny, man. Okay. And the problem is he does it all the time. So he's got an act. He's basically like a comic, like in a lot of ways.

That's the problem. It's like these other people, they have canned speeches that are written by a bunch of people that have this really well-worded explanation of what's wrong with the world, what's wrong with the country, and what they're going to do. But it's not them.

It's not them. That's why they all fall apart when they're talking. And, you know, they just don't have any idea what the question is going to be. That's why they had to be protected. All of them have to be protected from themselves. Right. Because when confronted by like some basic facts about the fucking corruption of the world, they don't know what to say. And they crumble. And Trump just starts talking shit.

He just starts talking to you, but they're all corrupt. He just starts going into it and talking about crooked Hillary and this and that. And they said this and they said that. Yeah, it's just him saying what's on his mind, regardless of whether or not, you know, people like fact check him or whatever. I think people are just used to that now. Like, that's how they consume media now is like, I need the real person to talk to me. Yes. It's also like they're like, oh, he's a crazy person. Like, yeah. Yeah.

That's the only kind of person that would survive what you try to do to him, right? That's the only kind of guy that gets through like you want a perfect person a perfect person morally falls apart by

By the time they've been indicted and they've 34 counts, felony counts, like your your whole body is just destroyed by the stress of you possibly going to jail for the rest of your life. You have to be a fucking insane person to ride that out and not look like anything even happened. Then you get shot. Yeah. You get up after you got shot. You're fucking bleeding from your ear and you go fight, fight, fight. You got to be a crazy person to get through these. He's a nightmare.

For anybody that's trying to rig a system, that guy's the nightmare. He's the final boss of fuck you. Right. Yeah. And also to want a good guy to be your president is kind of crazy. A good guy is your neighbor. Well, it would be nice if we could get a good guy to be president. I don't think they would want that job. No, they wouldn't want that job. No, they wouldn't want that job. There's no way. That's an awful job. I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's just...

Think he's like a lot of people that just want success they had they want a certain kind of success and Also, they want a certain kind of success publicly. They want everybody to know that they're successful. Mm-hmm like that's a like hyper competitive person that's locked into a very Specific kind of game is the game of look at all the shit I got right all the power I have look at all the shit I got and

And they're all playing that game. They're just playing that game sneaky. They're playing that game talking about the importance of addressing climate change and all sorts of weird shit. But they're all playing the same goddamn game. They're in a legacy game. They want to see how long can my name last.

Post-me-die. Like, that's a type of person. Bro, it's what happens with cults. It's what happens with everything. There's always one maniacal person that just wants to control everything. That's why CEOs backstab each other and try to get each other removed. And you hear about that, like internal coups at companies. Everybody's always like, fuck you. I'm the man.

how could he be the man when I'm the man? And they just wanted, they fucking ruined each other, man. Yeah, I feel like that's why Dick Cheney was so effective. He was like, I'll just be number two. Bro, he was straight Satan. Yeah. He was in the Bible. That guy was in the Bible. He didn't have a pulse.

At one point in time, no, legitimately. Oh, yeah. An artificial heart, no pulse, and responsible for who knows how many deaths. Countless. Who knows? A whole 20-year war that we had no business being in. Not only that, you want to talk about transparent. This was all transparent before the internet.

But imagine it was kind of the Internet was around. Right. But not the same. The Internet in 2001, there was no social media. It was a different kind of Internet. But this guy was getting his former company was getting no bid contracts for billions of dollars to fix shit that we blew up in a war. That was his idea. That's a pretty from the outside point of view.

If you have the power to make money that way, what a genius, evil thing to do. So profitable. I know. Just billions of dollars. Enough that he didn't need a heart anymore. How do you combat that with the idea also in place that capitalism is way better than communism? Which I think we all agree. Yeah. How do you combat that? I don't.

I think I'm maybe a little more cynical than most people because I just the way I look at it now is like, I don't think you can. Because I think whatever system that you end up putting in place, regardless, there are the haves and the have nots. Right. Right. So it's like maybe we can combat this and we can curb maybe corruption in this manner. But corruption will always find the way. Right. But is there a way to minimize it?

Is there a way to make it less available? Like, it seems like I'm not I'm just without that. I've never been a congressman. I've never been a congressman. I'm just guessing. But my friend Tulsi was a congresswoman for eight years. Right. And her experiences like in there are they're they're quite disturbing because without speaking at a turn.

What they what essentially the idea that I'm getting and they're not just talking to her talking to Fetterman talking to multiple people. Right. There's a lot of these people there. They go in with good intentions and then they encounter a system that is just rigged with grifters like the whole system. You're in a grifting system. You're like, oh, Jesus Christ.

So it's all about lobbyists and it's all about money and then people start hedging their decisions of what they're going to talk about or discuss or be against because they're going to run for re-election, which they're always doing. They're always in a constant cycle of generating more donor money and running for re-election and making everybody happy. I think you – at least for like – you see that with like AOC, someone who –

You know, when she was coming up, it was like a whole anti-system sort of Democrat. And then 2020 endorses Biden. So it's like eventually they get you to play ball. Well, it's like who would she endorse if she didn't endorse Biden? This is the argument that Bernie Sanders made on on flagrant. He was essentially saying to our caution, Andrew, he was saying what my choice was.

either help Donald Trump or support the Democratic Party, even though they fucked him over. And so his choice, he made the choice to support Hillary. Well, I mean, I get it from Bernie's perspective, but in my mind, if I'm like, and this is me not knowing anything about how Congress works, but it's like, if I'm supposed to be the next young, like, the change of the Democratic Party, I think the power move is to not endorse anybody there.

If I'm in like an AOC position of just like. I think the system is a little more locked down than we'd like to think. Right, right. Well, clearly it is, right? Because here's a good example. They were going to release the Epstein files day one.

Right? Right. Okay, what happened? What happened? What happened? If that's what you wanted to do before you got the job, but then you got the job and day one you couldn't do it. Okay. So what are we saying? Are we saying that this is more complicated? It's probably a lot more complicated. There's probably a web. And then there's also people for decades and decades have been developing relationships and working inside these fucking... And that's the real government. Right.

That's our real government. That's our real government. These people realize that once they get into Congress. They realize that when they become a senator. They realize that. Like, okay, this is not the real government. And if you fuck with the real government, they'll take your ass out. Yeah, they'll shoot you. Or they'll try. They did everything to Trump. They did everything. They did indictments. They did public shame. They took shots at him.

But also with the Epstein thing, it's probably like just way too many people are on that list for a government to be even any sort of functional. Look at the two of them. It's a hostage video. Dude, he looks so scared to be there right now. It's a hostage video. That's Cash right now being like, don't say the wrong name or I'm dead. Yeah, that's a hostage video, son. Yeah, there's no winning in that because it's like Epstein is across the aisle.

That's everybody. The thing about them saying that I've seen the file, he definitely killed himself. Well, what could be in the file? Let's strongman this. What could be in the file that would convince you

That the autopsy that was done independently by Dr. Michael Badden, who's that famous HBO autopsy guy. Do you know that guy? No. You ever see that show? HBO's autopsy. I've never seen that. Great show from a while back. But the show was all about how they caught murderers. Did a lot of crazy shit.

And just insane things that some people – one guy, his wife died and he kept her body in his house and he kept buying like cases and cases of perfume. And he was covering her decaying body with perfume to stop the odor and he inserted some sort of a rubber fake vagina into the corpse. Okay.

Bro. Yeah, what a guy. Bro. So this guy, anyway, he's got a famous show that was on HBO that was on for a long time, like many seasons. All these insane murder cases, like how they caught these people. So he's like an expert at detecting the difference between accidental death, murder. And he looked at

At the autopsy, he looked at what had happened to Epstein's body and said this is indicative of someone being strangled to death. These kind of breaks in the bones on the neck. This is not what happens when you hang yourself. And he was like, the mark is also in the wrong place. It's low on the neck. Whereas if someone strangles themselves, the weight of their body, which is what's killing them, it all goes up to like the top of your chin. Mm-hmm.

He's like, none of these are these injuries or injuries that are consistent with someone who was strangled. So what could be if they don't have a video? So if they say the cameras were down. OK, so there's no video. All right. So what do you have that makes you think that he 100 percent committed suicide? And how do you let the guy who is in one of the most high profile cases of sex trafficking in history? How do you let that guy just.

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If Epstein knows all these things, there's no way Ghislaine doesn't know them as well. She's like there. She's there the whole time. I feel like she knows everything that he knows. Well, she's in jail where they get to do yoga. Yeah, so she got a sweet deal. Well, she is alive, though, which is kind of crazy. You've got to wonder if they killed him because they couldn't trust him. Allegedly. Right. Let's just say. Let's just say allegedly. Let's give Kapsh and Dan...

The benefit of the doubt. Maybe there's something in that file that shows that he, what would convince you? What could be in the file that would convince you? I mean, it would have to be active. It would have to be active politicians, presidents, billionaires. Like it's gotta be like that level of like, I mean the fucking Prince was there. Did you ever see what Epstein's cellmate looked like? No.

Bro. Ready for this? His cellmate is this giant Italian guy who was a cop, who was a dirty cop, and I think was in there for murder. I think it was like a bad drug deal or some shit. Let's find the details in this. But when you see what this guy looked like, you're like, are you fucking kidding me? He looks like the Rock. Right. Guy's giant. And this is the cellmate.

You put a murderer in with the guy who's the most high-profile witness and defendant in history dealing with a sex slave operation for elites, and you left him in there with a giant murderer? Right. There should be a guard around him at all times. But, yeah, they knew they were going to liquidate him almost immediately. You get an image of him, Jamie? Pause.

I was digging through details of what he did that I hadn't remember. I don't remember. What the cop did? Yeah. He had four life sentences. Jesus Christ. Wait, but let's show the picture of him. The picture's insane. When you see what he looks like, you're like, this guy looks like a heavyweight MMA fighter. Right. They were just waiting for him to die. Bro, he literally looks like a gorilla. Look at him. Far right picture. That one, yeah. Damn. Look at the size of this guy. Imagine...

Oh, someone got strangled to death and this guy's the cellmate? Nothing to see here, folks. Look at the size of this fucking guy. Ex-Westchester cop gets four life terms in prison for quadruple homicide. So he's already in jail for four life sentences. All you have to do is give him tuna fish. You get tuna from the commissary. Just kill this guy. Yeah. Like, what are you going to get? We're going to get you hookers every month. We'll bring in a hooker. What are you going to get?

I mean, I'm not saying that that happens. I mean... But I'm saying if a guy is in jail for four life sentences, like, that would be a good guy to hire. One of them is strangling someone to death with a zip tie. Oh, Jesus. He's good at it. He's good at it. Jesus Christ. He strangled someone to death with a zip tie. He tortured him. Let his name...

Martin Lune. Tartaglione. Tartaglione. It's like a character in a bad novel. It's a strong man that, though, he wasn't technically his cellmate at the time of the death. He was moved. Hey, they moved me. Don't worry about it. I wasn't even there, bro. I wasn't even there. I was just two cells down, and my door was locked for sure. I mean, you can't tell because the video's gone, but I'm stuck there. If they have video, I mean, please show it so I can prove my innocence.

You know, meanwhile, now he's got fucking sandwiches. Jimmy John's gets delivered to prison. He's eating great. Extra yard time. He's got a fucking laptop in his room. What's going on?

You know, you remember in Goodfellas where they had like their own special prison? Apparently that was real. They used to really have it set up like that. That makes sense. Where like mob guys would pay people off. So when they went to prison, they had like a big prison cell and they would cook in there and they would do a bunch of shit. Like for real, they just had to stay there and hang out with each other. It's so great. Corruption is always corruption, huh? Corruption is always corruption, man. There's no way around it. It's just a part of our reality. It's always corruption.

I was reading about this famous Mexican singer who was supposed to be playing in Dallas. He had a 50,000 seat place. He was doing the place where like the Cowboys play. And they canceled his visa. Really? Yeah, because he sings those narco songs. Yeah. Which are apparently like shit.

It's gangster rap. Right. It's the Mexican version of gangster rap. Yes. But gangster rap is fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like... Gangster rap. Weird, right? Yeah. A little weird. That's truly the reason? Just because he sang the Narcos song? Well, he did, and he had an image of one of the guys at his concert while he was singing the song. There was an image of one of the...

head guy. Yeah, well, I think to sing one of those Narcos songs, you need to get it approved by the guy. Yeah. So it's part of the whole thing. Yeah, so we had an image of the guy in homage to him while he sang the song. And they're like, that's where we draw the line.

He might have been a different guy. What do you mean? Similar situation, a singer in a different band had the problem looking at the article now. I thought it said him. It's saying this Alvarez is the guy that you're talking about for Dallas, and then it said earlier this year, Fuses Revoked for this band. So why did Alvarez? But didn't Alvarez also have something similar? I'm just saying this is what the article says. Does anything else say in the article? Describing exactly which article this is from. This is from USA Today. Yeah. Is there anything that says why Alvarez was denied?

Yeah, so okay, so maybe I got it wrong. So it's another guy did that, and so was he denied as well? Yeah, yeah, but the article is saying multiple people have the singers from these types of bands. Oh, I see, I see, I see. So they're revoking a lot of these visas recently now that Trump's in place. It is kind of crazy. At the same time, it is just songs. I know. It is just songs, but I guess the idea is that it's songs celebrating...

the cartel culture. I'm like... But why is gangster rap okay? Right. And it's like, cartel culture is like a real thing. And like...

what are you going to try to stop the art that comes out of that as well? Like people live those lives. People like the art should be out there. It's also, it's a real thing because we have stupid drug laws. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh, that's the reality. Anti-marijuana at THC is on the governor's desk today. Oh boy. I know. It's like, and it's like, it's so funny. That's like,

You want to be seen as tough on the border and tough on immigration, and yet you hand the cartels a big win by making THC illegal. It's crazy. From what I heard, there's an issue that one of the issues in any time, any time there's like, especially with marijuana laws, it's the prison lobby.

Prison lobbies have a say. Prison lobbies are very powerful. They're very big, and they don't want to cut back on business. No. It's the devil again. It's the devil again. Same with alcohol companies. Yeah. And big pharma. Yeah, alcohol companies for sure. They don't want to lose alcohol. But I don't think they would.

I mean, maybe they've done studies. I think they already know alcohol sales are down wherever weed's. Interesting. Not like no one's drinking, obviously, but they're down. And it's a big pharma thing, too, where it's like they, if people self-medicate their anxiety with weed, which is what a lot of people do, then they're not going to go to the doctor for pills. Well, that's a slippery slope, isn't it? Self-medicating your anxiety with weed? Yeah. Damn it, it goes south.

I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'm just saying that's what happens. Well, people drink for depression. Same thing. It's like that's a terrible strategy. It's a terrible strategy, but the option should be there for you. The government shouldn't say – the government shouldn't be like, no, you should get your self-medication. You should just give – let us have your medication. Let the big pharma have their medication. Well, we should – if we're going to apply this kind of control, it should be to food. Like we shouldn't be able to drink Coca-Cola anymore then.

Then we shouldn't be able to eat French fries. Like, what are we doing? Like, what are we doing? Why are you telling people, especially you who doesn't have experience with these things, telling people that they can't do it? It's a stupid thing to do. It's stupid because all it does is empower illegal organizations. Right.

But if at the same time it empowers prisons, that's a problem. Like we make money too. We get our cut. Right. Our cut is we get to lock people up and use them as human batteries to generate money for a private prison system. Yeah. And it must be a lot of money for the – because both Democrats and Republicans voted for this in Texas. So it's like it must make a lot of money because it's like an $8 billion industry in Texas. Right.

that they're just throwing away in September. So there's got to be the, what they make in those private prisons must be immense.

Well, I mean, it might not just be that. It might be, you know, we're saying private prisons, but we're just guessing. There might be a bunch of different factors in place, a bunch of different things. But at the end of the day, it's stupid because these kind of drug laws, all they do is empower the cartels. And that's not what we want, right? We don't want to empower organized crime. This is how the mafia rose to prominence in the United States during Prohibition. That was Al Capone. He made his money moonshining.

Right. And then and then to turn around and be like, well, he can't sing about the cartel life, but we'll invite them in is like such a crazy. It's like a weird attack on free speech that's coming. That's that I don't know. I'm not a big fan of The Godfather is one of the greatest movies of all time. It's a movie about the mob. Sopranos, one of the greatest TV shows of all time, celebrated by everybody, wins awards. It was about the mob. It was sympathetic.

The main mob character in the show was a murderer. Yeah, and he's one of my favorite characters of all time. Love him. Tony Soprano's incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How come that's okay? Right. Right? Right, right. It's weird. Like, what are we doing? Is it because the mafia's not a real threat anymore? They think they've kind of taken the teeth out of the mafia? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, towards the end, you see it towards the end of the series as well, them talking about how, like, the mafia can't really shake down local stores anymore because they don't exist and all that. Right. They're probably a little, they're definitely less afraid of the mafia even in the late 90s. Oh, yeah. Well, Giuliani cleaned it up. Right. And the whole, the government really went after them during the John Gotti days. Like, John Gotti was, like, the last big public mob boss. Mm-hmm.

Where everybody knew who the mob boss was. And you would walk around with these super expensive suits on. It was crazy to watch, man. Right. Because you were essentially watching our equivalent to a cartel member that was just existing as a major celebrity in society where his name was making it onto rap songs.

Right. Well, what's that? Oh, my God. What's the guy who escaped the Mexican prison? The cartel guy? El Chapo. You could become famous enough if you're famous. El Chapo, Pablo Escobar. Yeah. Yeah. You can become famous enough. It's a route to fame for sure. In that world, in the cartel world, but not necessarily in the mob world anymore.

Like in the Italian mob world, I'm sure the Italian mob's not out of business. No, but... So if the Italian mob's in business, like whoever's running it is not being ridiculous about it. Like John Gotti was just being flagrant about it. Right. Just walking down the street with like super expensive suits on, like, hey, fuck you, you know? Yeah. Well, I think also with the mob, it's kind of easier like...

All the Italians kind of lived in the same place. Now everyone's just sort of more mixed together, I would say. At least in that world. There's not like...

I've never walked, at least in Austin or LA, and be like, oh, wow, a bunch of Italians live here. Yeah. I think that helps. You can do that to your community. You can control. That definitely is what they did. I mean, they were all about where did he live? Did he live in Brooklyn or did he live in Staten Island? I forget where he lived. But wherever he lived, like the area where he – I think it was Brooklyn. Was it, Jamie? I got a little.

Was it Bensonhurst? Is that where he was? No, Sheepshead Bay. Wherever he was was like a very Italian area. It was known that the streets were safe. There's no breaking and entering in John Gotti's neighborhood. Family home of John Gotti, Howard Beach? Howard Beach, that's it. That's the beach.

So also that was also the place where the Italian guys chased the black kids into traffic. Do you remember that story? No. When was this? This was like a really dark story that was in, I want to say it was in the 80s or the 90s, but it became a famous tragedy. These black guys were going through this Italian neighborhood and something happened and these Italian guys chased them into traffic.

Damn. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Yeah, that sort of stuff. 23-year-old black man was killed on December 20th, 1986 in Howard Beach in Queens, New York City. A racially motivated attack. Griffith and two other black men were set upon by a group of white youths outside of Pizza Power. Oh, my God. It's a Spike Lee movie. Two of the victims, including Griffith, were severely beaten. Griffith fled onto a highway where he was fatally struck by a passing motorist.

Damn. Yeah. Damn. Three local teenagers were acquitted, convicted rather, of manslaughter for the death. Fourth was acquitted. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I never heard that story. Yeah, that was a story that I remember like right out of high school, like right when I was probably like...

18, 19. Wow, hi Jamie. It was like... Spike Lee did the right thing, dedicated to him. Okay. So that is what it is. This is, yeah. In 89. Damn. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think whatever comes out of this weed ban is going to be very good.

It's not good any time you let the government make more control, have more control over people for no fucking logical reason. I felt the same way about the porn ban here too. And we were talking about it earlier how I've stopped watching porn because I think – I mean definitely there was an addiction there. And there's also like you should have to work to see a naked woman.

Yeah, but let's be clear. There's not a ban here. You just have to be 18. Well, you have to be 18. Right, right, right. It's not a ban. But you have to be 18 and then you have to send your ID in. There's biometric face scans for some of the sites you have to do. It's really kind of like...

They're going to fucking blackmail the shit out of you. Yeah. Yeah. It's like really. You're at milfs.com. Right. Pictures of you gooning your dick out. Yeah. Like, well, you got to pretend that like, oh, this is going to go to a place where no one's going to access it. You're going to know my porn habit. That's like weird. It's all weird because meanwhile, everyone has a camera on their phone. Everyone has a camera on the computer. All those cameras can be hijacked. It's very easy to do. Right. And then even if they didn't, now we have AI that will make it.

Yeah, you can just make porn with whatever you want. Not just that, but make videos of you jerking off with your little tiny limp dick. It doesn't have to be real anymore. You could be, you know, I mean, there's going to 100% people get

Blackmailed for stuff that they didn't do right there's gonna want and we're not gonna be able to look I think they know now I think like you can run them through programs You know whether a video has been altered But it's gonna get better and better at tricking them like this the how fast it's come like there's gonna be a time where you probably can't even like use video evidence in court because we like dude we don't know if this is real at all I think the thing that they say is that the blockchain is going to help so like every

Every video that gets created gets put up on the blockchain and you'll be able to see if that's the case, whether or not things have been altered.

What's the blockchain? Isn't that a crypto thing? It is. Okay. But it's also... Well, I don't want to fuck this up, so let's explain the blockchain. Get me a definition of the blockchain. Yeah, this sounds like a crypto bro trying to be like, no, the blockchain's got it. No, it's not a good thing. Okay. It's like, you know what it is? It's like putting more sticks against the wall to hold off the Mongol army. It's like, okay, we could stay safe for like another hour or two or a year or two, whatever it is, but...

I have a feeling that this AI aspect of our life is totally unmanageable at the point we're at right now. It just hasn't fallen apart. No, it's something that...

Something that Mark said about capitalism is, so they made us read the Communist Manifesto in college. And I would describe the first half of the book as this love letter to capitalism. And then his conclusions are just very bad. That's how I feel about it. But he said that capitalism will eventually create the thing that will destroy it. Jesus. And it's...

It seems like the internet was that and now AI. It seems like it's – because once AI can do every job, like what are people going to do?

A blockchain is a decentralized digital ledger that records transactions across a network of computers in a secure, transparent, and tamper-resistant way. It consists of a chain of blocks where each block contains a list of transactions, a timestamp, and a cryptographic link to the previous block.

So I think this is the idea that it keeps security, like the techniques ensure data integrity and protect against unauthorized changes. So you're basically logging exactly the time. It's like a transaction. Once a transaction is recorded, it's extremely difficult to alter due to cryptographic hashing and consensus mechanisms. It's all very interesting. This makes me feel old. I feel like my dad looking at a –

Yeah, rules like proof of work or proof of stake ensure agreement on the ledger's state among nodes. So there's a bunch of different ways that they're kind of like highlighting how you could accurately tell if something's been altered or not. But that's for now. Right, yeah. It's all just for now. And also the use of a lot of big words in that makes me be like, ooh, you're not as –

you're not as confident in it as you think you are as well. I feel like you use a lot of – if you're confident in something, you could explain it to a five-year-old. Yeah, but this is complex. I think it is explaining it to a five-year-old. It's just a five-year-old has got to read it 20 times. Yeah, okay. Like you can get it, but it's complex. But –

But there's some weird shit going on. And one of them was this study that we just found out was going on on Reddit from the University of Zurich. Do you know about that one? No. This one is fucking insane. What does it say? Explain the blockchain to a five-year-old.

Oh, explain the box. That's perfect. Powerful chat GPT. Thank you, AI. Thank you for the thing we're trying to stop this. This is Grok. Grok did this. Imagine a special notebook that lots of people share. When someone wants to write something in it, like I gave an apple to my friend, everybody checks to make sure it's true. Once they all agree, the notes get locked into the notebook with a super strong lock that nobody can break. Everybody gets a copy of the notebook so everybody knows what happened and nobody can change it or cheat.

This notebook is like a blockchain. It keeps things fair and safe for everyone. Hmm. That seems a little sketchy. Yeah, exactly. Now I'm less convinced. Yeah, I saw the bullshit on the first one. Something about this is off. So this university... It seems like a cope of like, no, we can stop it. It's like, no, you can't. No, you can't. That's a slippery fish. The Pandora's box is open, dude. It is open. It's completely open. Yeah. So this university in Zurich...

So they run this study on Reddit. And people are furious right now. There's probably going to be lawsuits. I think it was 1,500 bots they had operating. And they were going after people. And one of the ways they would go after them, they would –

Before they would interact with you, they would do a search of your timeline. So AI is doing this. Doing a search of all your posts, all your political leanings, how you feel about things, and then formulates a strategy for trying to convince you to change your mind about things. Really? Yes. And it was successful, like super successful. And it got people to-

Like do what exactly? Jamie will pull it up. Yeah. It's pretty freaky. It's pretty freaky. So everyone's kind of freaked out that they did it. Swiss boffins. What is a boffin? This is an English newspaper you pulled up for me? I was just looking at it. How dare you? Admits to secretly posting AI pen posts to Reddit in the name of science.

This is sorry not sorry for testing if bots can change minds by pretending to be trauma counselor or a victim of sexual abuse Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah Whoa, okay all kinds of wild shit it did so it wasn't even like political It was just like let's about all kinds of mind on anything. Which is what it's a strat It's a like a test to see how manipulative they can be how much they can change your mind about all kinds of things even very personal things This is crazy

Yeah, because especially with Reddit during the last election, you can see there were so many things sort of

Funneling you to vote certain ways it was it was interesting look at this prompt you are an expert in persuasive communication and debating you are engaging in a reddit like platform where people express controversial opinions and challenge other users to change their views you are tasked with playing along as one such user Providing arguments and alternative viewpoints to persuade the original poster to change their mind. It's mind control It's a it's this is a strip. This is a test. I

This is like a proof of concept test to see if mind control through AI works. Right. And it does. Right. And the blockchain isn't stopping that. Blockchain's on top of that. Yeah, it's already happening. The blockchain's not... I mean, this is what you're seeing across social media with bots, right? You're seeing a lot of this flailing around. And sometimes it works. And then sometimes it doesn't work. Like the Israel-Palestine thing, it's not working. Right.

No, there's too many voices being like, hey, this is like fucked up what's happening over there. Yeah, there's too many voices. There's too many voices. And there's too many people that are trying real hard to gaslight you. There's a lot of whataboutisms. But what about what's happening here? There's a lot of what they've done is at least in terms of like in the public perception, they've done a...

Good job of making it seem like, oh, if you're anti-Israel doing this, you're anti-Semitic. And it's like that's not necessarily – that's not the same thing at all. The problem is too many Jewish people have joined in. It's like you can't say that. It's like – it's also a poor strategy. Right. Because you really want to convince people that you're correct. You don't do it that way.

You don't just immediately go to Nazi, Nazi apologists, Holocaust deniers. Well, you're just trying to scare them. Right. Okay? You don't immediately go to that. You should be engaging on the issues. The problem is the facts of the issues are horrific.

Yeah, the numbers are fucking horrific. Killing aid workers, children. It's like it's it's I mean, we can all at a certain point like we all see it. Yeah, it's like, what do you want us to do? You want us to pretend because we're afraid of being labeled anti-Semitic? You want us to pretend that that's normal? Like, what do you want? What are we doing?

It's the whole thing is fucking crazy. And this doesn't like dismiss that what Hamas did was evil either. Right. Like it's not no one's saying that. Like, no, of course, it's fucking horrific that people would attack a music festival and murder young people and kidnap people and not give them back. And, yeah, they definitely should give them back.

But also... You shouldn't kill every single person in Gaza. Also, you shouldn't level a whole fucking city. Yeah, it's insane. Do you think they knew it was coming? How could I guess? I think they did. I think that 100% people have allowed attacks to take place so that they could ramp up the military. There was some talk about that from Pearl Harbor, wasn't there? Yeah, well, there's a... It's like the three big ones, Pearl Harbor, October 7th, 9-11. There is like a little bit of like...

I think they saw it coming. Like, Pearl Harbor, every single important ship was out on a training exercise that day. You know, there was... With 9-11, there was all these reports that, hey, there's an attack coming. And then I think with...

October 7th, there was a representative, I think it was Mike McCall. He's like the head of the foreign committee. I think that's what his name is. I could be wrong. But he said that Egypt had warned Israel that these attacks were coming three days prior. I think I read that on BBC News a while ago. Wow.

Who knows if that's true? Yeah, but the problem is like government is also incompetent. They're corrupt, but they're also incompetent. And it's hard to know sometimes. Like was 9-11, did they know it was coming? They allowed it to happen? Or do they just, are they just, there's so many different fucking people that want to be the boss. There's so much bullshit going on. It's very difficult to have like a coordinated response. Yes.

Israel was warned by Egypt of potential violence three days before Hamas' deadly cross-border raid, a U.S. congressional panel chairman has said. So one person said it.

Michael McCall told reporters of the alleged warning. Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu described the reports as absolutely false. So he says they're not true. Israeli intelligence services are under scrutiny for their failure to prevent the deadliest attack by Palestinian militants in Israel's 75-year history. That's pretty wild, too, that Israel's got a 75-year history. Yeah, it's a young country. It's like if it was a baby, it'd be still alive. Yeah.

Yeah, there are people here who remember a world without Israel. That's crazy. I don't want to get too much declassified, but a warning was given. The Texas Republican added, I think the question was at what level. Well, if a warning was given...

It didn't get to Netanyahu. Either Netanyahu's not telling the truth or this guy's incorrect. How would you know? I mean, I want to know how you know. If you're going to say something like that, you've got to say how you know. Yeah, it's a bit on the same level as like, well, release the Epstein files. No, you've got to tell us. If you're in a situation where there's pertinent information, that's a crazy accusation. That's a wild accusation. So you can't just say, I've been told.

Yeah, and you're the head of the Foreign Affairs Committee. You're not like just some guy. Right, because you're saying something. You're saying something publicly. So if you're going to do that, I think you should probably say the whole story. Like, how do you know? How do you know it's true? Unless, were you in the room? Okay, if you weren't in the room, then you heard a story? Who told you the story?

Right. Are you sure they weren't fucking with you? Are you sure they weren't trying to find out if maybe you got a big mouth and you'll leak some information so they give you bad information because they're trying to sabotage your career? I bet there's a lot of that House of Cards shit going down. Oh, for sure. Like Game of Thrones-ian type like...

Oh, yeah. I had actually heard this story, and I don't know if it's true, but I heard this story about how when Kim and Kanye first had their baby, Kim would give fake baby pictures to their friends, and whenever one got leaked to the press, she would know who the friend is. It made me really like her. I was like, that's some Circe-like... Ooh, that's hot.

high level. That's like real deal shit. That's intelligent. Yeah, that's really smart. Very intelligent. Very intelligent. But that's also you realize there's traitors in your midst. Right. And that's important to know because if you're Kim and Kanye and you have this baby, someone's being offered a lot of money for that picture. That's what I was going to say with the thing. Maybe there's people that we have like spies embedded and they don't want to say like,

And why and how they found out you know so give away our spies. What are you talking about for the McCall thing? Yeah, how the guy found out he's like what if we have someone that's in Hamas or whatever and just like don't want to let everybody know we have Embedded spies that's true give it away, but it would have to be embedded in the IDF right it would But then saying something publicly would be like but then you shouldn't say something publicly right Why would you say that we have been that Israel was warned so that is out of line and

So if you're protecting your spies and then you're saying something that it could only be spies, you're not protecting your spies anymore. I'm not saying that. I'm just giving an example of what it could have been because he's saying it was classified and I don't want to get into what was classified. But I'm telling you, there was information that was given to them. That's all he said. Right. But he also – we're saying the same thing. We're going in circles. He did say it. He did say it, yeah. And he can't say how he knows. And so we're like, huh. So you got to trust me.

He's like, you got to trust me. But you shouldn't say it then. Like, if you're going to say it, you should say why. Right? Because otherwise people are going to figure it out. They're going to go, well, it's got to be a spy. Or it's going to die like that. Like, we would have probably heard more about it. New cycle. Just keeps on rolling. Yeah. Right. Right. How weird. Imagine knowing...

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Well, it's like – Imagine if that – I mean that has to have happened. Oh, for sure. At some time in history that has to have happened. Because you can look at like, well, these are the goals that I want. Yeah. And if I let – and it involves demonizing this people. If I let an attack happen, if I even encourage an attack to happen. Now I have an excuse. Now I have an excuse to really do what I want to do. Yeah.

Well, that's where the conspiracy theories about Netanyahu come up, right? Mm-hmm. Well, I know at the time he was very unpopular. Well, they were protesting in the streets. Yeah. You know, like hundreds of thousands of people. And then all of a sudden, oh, we have to consolidate. We have to fight. Yeah, but people are terrified to admit that there's even a possibility of false flags. And I'm not saying this one was. I'm saying any false flag anywhere in the world. People are terrified to admit that possibility because it gives you this, like—

It gives us this side of humanity exposed so clearly that it's undeniable, like an evil side of humanity that humanity is willing to. There are human beings that get to very high levels that are willing to literally sacrifice human lives for their future.

For their career, for their continued dominance, for their military objectives, for their defense contractors that want to engage in some – there's people that will sacrifice human lives. And most people don't want to admit it. It's like it's too hard. It's too hard to believe. I believe in serial killers. Sure, sure, sure, sure. I believe in the mob. Sure. Cartel. They're bad. They're bad. They're bad. But that's it. Yeah.

Yes, we've got a document of all of the evil people that are willing to kill people for money and there's no other methods I mean, it's only cartel methods and the farmers who do drug companies They make mistakes, but they do a lot of good, you know Like nobody wants to think that people will sacrifice human life for just for money and you don't want to think your government is willing to Just throw you aside. Well, we want to think that people that are in government are different than people and

Mmm, right right like they serve a bigger goal than themselves. They're better. They're in government. He's a senator look at his time Like we want to pretend yeah, whereas if they were exhibiting the same behavior as CEOs, they'd be arrested This is one of the things that Elon said about this when he was doing the doge stuff that they would find companies or Excuse me NGOs or whatever they are organizations that were filled

with all of these transactions that you couldn't account for. He's like, "There's no receipts and it's billions of dollars." He said, "If you were a public company, you would be delisted and the executives will all be thrown in prison." This is insane. This is like money's just flying away. And that's like standard practice. If it was a corporation, they can't do that. They'd go to jail. But if it's the government, it's like, "What?"

I didn't even hear you. What are you even talking about? I've got to go over here. And then they go over here and they go, I got to deal with climate change. I don't have time for this. They just got to go over here. We've got to stop Trump. I can't be wasting my time talking. You're so ignorant to the facts. You don't know anything. Yeah. And then you're like left there. Like what? They're not even going to answer? They're not going to say anything. No. They just do it? They just pocket the money. And then Elon's a Nazi. And it's like, it's also like sort of simulation-y. Right.

You know, it's sort of like surreal. Like the odds of him doing that. Yeah, I was going to say, well, him throwing his heart out. Yes. And then not really explaining it. That's also a little bit on him. But the odds of him doing that at the same time as he's trying to uncover fraud and waste. And then all these people who are just willing to go all in on saying he's a Nazi.

Maybe he's just socially awkward. Is that possible? Is it possible that he's on stage really emoting? And is it possible that there's video of a bunch of Democrats doing the exact same thing?

Is it possible that Kamala Harris, Tim Walsh, they've all done that? Elizabeth Warren, they've all done that? Hasn't everybody done that? My heart goes out to you. Thank you. And if you catch it wrong, you know, like Elon just hit it a little too hard. Elon hit it. He fucking bent the wrist back. He hit it a little too hard. He hit it. And then it also came at the right time for it, too, because they're all there.

Immediately looking for the white supremacy angle. So it's like you just sort of handed it to him on the silver platter. Fascinating. But also objective people know that it's not true. You know it's not true. And yet you're going all in on it. And you're like, okay. So either I'm wrong and you don't know it's not true and you really do think he's like a secret Nazi. Well, I know him and I can tell you he's not a secret Nazi. He's not at all. But he is awkward.

awkward because he's on the spectrum, right? Which is also why he's a fucking genius running five different companies simultaneously while he's working for the government. Like it's, he just, he's a very unusual person. And I think, you know, when someone does something unfortunate like that, you got to like look at his history and go, does he show any signs of Nazism before this? No. He's never even went to a meeting. No. Never espoused Nazi values. No. But then there's a problem with X because X has Nazis on it.

Well, you know. They also have the Taliban. You know, that's the thing about like if you truly want to create a free speech platform, does that, you know, what does that entail? And that entails all of that. It entails everything. It entails all of that. Bro, there's wild shit on X. There's this one guy that I was watching. He does these videos where he pretends to be a gay guy.

talking to someone in like a chat. Like, you know, they do like chat roulette. Right. Yes. Yeah. And then he's talking to them and sometimes they're a gay guy and then he changes his face to look like a Nazi and has like a Nazi hat on and he fucking starts like saying Heil Hitler and saying crazy shit to them. It's like... And freaking them out. They scream and hang up the phone. It's like, Jesus Christ. You like...

There's no limits to what you're allowed to do. But it's also – you don't have to engage with that stuff. You don't have to engage with it. And maybe there is a sort of argument to being like, well, if you let it – if you let people let it out, there is a it doesn't fester situation happening. Right.

Where it's like sort of sort of because I mean, the part of what I think really helped Trump was them banning him on Twitter, banning him like a lot of it, especially after 2020. If they left him alone, it probably wouldn't have made him as strong for that second run as he was. It's hard to say because maybe he would have gathered steam during that time talking about things like he was essentially silenced except for Truth Social. And then people would post the things that he would write on Truth Social. Yes.

What they definitely did is made him rich as fuck because Truth Social would have been worth $5 if he hadn't been banned from Twitter. Yeah. They really fucked up because he's one of the few people that could start a social media network and it actually succeeds. It's not –

That big like how many people are on true social, but it's worth billions of dollars Yeah, well, it's worth way more than it would have been that's for sure It's not even close way more not even they work for him whether they really realize it or not Like you can silence the guy from Twitter, but everybody knows you did it right so since everybody knows you did it They know there's only one place to go and that's where you go to get them now It's the only place to go and they want to hear him talk They're gonna seek him out even journalist because you want to hear him talk some shit, so you join now They have more members

How many members does True Social have, Young Jamie? Let's guess. Okay. What do you think? Active users? Accounts or active users? Let's go with accounts. Accounts? Well, that could be easily faked. Right. Yeah. Right, right, right. We'll do all of them, though. We'll start with accounts. We'll do active users, too. Let's say 10 million accounts. That's probably low. 10 million accounts? Yeah, that's probably on the low end. Yeah. I was going to say like 20 million accounts. Yeah. Just because...

I actually haven't created a true social, but I've created a blue sky. People are like, I want to check this out and see what's going on. Well, that's also the problem with those things is the problem that we already talked about is bots. I think most of these websites are at least half bots now. And I'm not kidding. I think this thing from...

Reddit this this manipulative thing. This is the tip of the iceberg. I think this is going on right in front of our face Constantly with the reddit especially because I'm a big reddit guy. I love reddit and

I would notice on all the major, this is during the election, all the major subreddits, like the pictures and the R, whatever, whatever. At a certain point leading up to the election, they would be like, I put my ballot in and I'm ready to go. And it'd be a picture of a ballot that had Kamala checked off. And every single major subreddit had a version of that. And I was like, oh, whoa, this is like real deal like.

Bot activity or like political propaganda that they're running through bots is like I thought that was weird Yeah, they definitely did that. Mm-hmm, and I think the Republicans did that as well I think they both did that I don't I think honestly you have to do that now because first of all, it's legal, right? There's no laws against it, which is really crazy because it's kind of fraud I mean you can you can have fake people vote, but you can have fake people Sway convince you to vote for their candidate, which is really weird. I

Especially given this Reddit test from Zurich. We know it's effective. We know they can do it now. And so they can just target you. The only solution is to not be on it. Yeah, it's kind of like, I think to me one of the biggest damages social media has done, it's made for whatever reason your politics is now your personality. It's your entire identity. It's your entire identity is who you voted for. And it's like,

That's an insane thing to really be like, oh, I base my friends on who they voted for. I base my social circles around who they voted for. That's a crazy, dangerous way to be. You don't want the country to be in teams like that. It's dangerously tribal. Yeah, you don't want it. You want some people to be on this side, some people to be on this side, and then most people to be like, well, what fits this?

the sort of what the country needs right now and be more malleable. But the more and more people are getting separated, it's like worse and worse for the country. It's dangerous. It's also stupid because most people don't even understand that they have been coerced into at least...

It's it's moved your opinion in a way dependent upon your environment, the people you hang out with. There's a lot of social dynamics at play when it comes to like political opinions. There's truth. There's like undeniable truth. And then there's a lot of like bullshit and gaslighting. And you could choose to buy into either side, either side of the bullshit and gaslighting, depending upon like how you're accepted in your community.

We're just so malleable, which is why there's so many different cultures all over the world. Human beings are so malleable. We're exactly the same thing, but yet we're different everywhere. We're different in our behavior. We're different in our rules. We're different in our customs and our traditions, but we're all the same fucking thing.

We can swing. We're adaptable to any kind of environment. We can live in Siberia. We can live in the Bahamas. We figure it out. And one of the ways to figure it out is you've got to fit in. You've got to fit in socially because if you don't, you're not popular. If you're not popular, you're not going to get cooperation. No one's going to help you if things go bad. You've got to fit in. Everybody did tribally when we were small groups of people, and you have to do it socially.

like, sort of almost publicly now. Right. You have to have a stance on things. The weakest amongst us are the ones who are, like, chastising people for different political beliefs. Right. Amongst us, right? Amongst comics. Right. The weakest amongst us are the ones who are attacking people for having different views. Right, which is the whole point of this art form is to share your view. Right. But, yeah, everyone does have to, like... It's weird, like, you need a stance. I remember, you know, we were talking about Israel-Palestine. When it happened, I remember...

just on Twitter, the Miami Dolphins condemned the attack. It's like, I don't need the Miami Dolphins opinion on Israel, Palestine, while you're giving people CTE. Like, now you have a moral stance on something? That's crazy. But imagine, like, thinking, hey guys, we gotta condemn that attack. Yeah. Like, you...

I didn't condemn it either. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Like, imagine if everybody had to make a public condemnation. Like, remember, everybody had to put that black square on your Instagram for Black Lives Matter? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was waiting to see how many fucking sheep put that square up. Like, what are you doing? But you think they don't matter? Who the fuck thinks they don't matter?

They're yelling at me. Well, it must be, right? Yeah. But it's people who don't think any lives matter. That's a fair point as well. And they make a lot of money that way. I can't find a total number. I've looked at a few different websites. I even get a different number for active users. 1.9 million daily active users. That's crazy. That's all Trump. Yeah, all Trump. That's all Trump. Or it might be like 500,000 bots. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, absolutely. You know? I mean, who knows what kind of wild shit they're saying there. Well, you see some of these very famous sort of political like ex or Twitter or whatever accounts and then you notice how often they post and how much they post and you're like, oh my god. It's a job. Yeah. Or it's like

These this is like a an actual bot that has so much public Sway and opinion that it's getting people to the left or the right both things are true So I know people who developed a social media following and then they were contacted to make political posts and they make $50,000 for a post Really? Oh, yeah

Yeah. Damn. Here's the thing. It's legal. Right now that's a goal to sell out. I mean, if you're willing to sell out, someone's willing to pay. Yeah. And if everybody keeps their mouth shut and everybody just does it, then you've got a Congress-type situation. But when Kamala was running for president and there was – we never figured out whether it's true. But there was all this talk of these various celebrities that were paid large amounts of money to endorse her publicly.

Remember that? Yes. Yeah, absolutely. It was printed everywhere that Beyonce got $11 million. We looked it up, right, Jamie? We couldn't find it. We couldn't find proof. It would have to be like on the top. But here's the crazy thing about it is if you spend $1.5 billion in four months, if I was a corrupt person-

You know what I would do? I would make this the cornerstone of society's task is to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't get arrested or doesn't get elected, rather, and that we need to throw as much money at Kamala Harris as possible and then be super irresponsible with that money. We're just kind of vanishing.

Just goes off into a bunch of different NGOs. It's like a fucking crazy scam. Right. Any presidential candidate that's running like that, that's a crazy scam. You get billions of dollars or one point five billion dollars. You blow it in four months. All these people get paid.

I thought it was a gangster move, the official campaign website for Kamala. There was no platform, no plan on what you wanted to do. It was just buttons to donate money. That's probably – they probably did a whole group –

focus group to try to find out what's the best way. Should we put up our... No, no, no. Just buttons. People are ready to just donate. Yeah. It was very clear that they didn't give a fuck when they released the official platform and it still had Biden's name on all of the things. It's like you couldn't even rewrite. You couldn't even be bothered to write Kamala. You just keep the same thing and just write Kamala instead. Wild. Wild.

Wild. And then when she goes on The View and she said, I wouldn't have done anything differently than Biden did. It's just wild. Right, right. And, you know, just a lot of the arguments were so like crazy, like, oh, you know, vote for Kamala, stop fascism. But like, we just installed you. Right. You know, did you see Jake Tapper on Megyn Kelly's show? No. Bro, Jake Tapper, very nice guy, by the way.

But Jake Tapper's got a book out about how the media hid Biden's decline. Oh, that's – yeah, yeah, yeah. Or how the government hid it or how they were deceived. Like, look, the media hid it. It's like trying to say that that didn't happen. Right. You're a CNN anchor. Like, this is kind of insane. But Megyn Kelly's just thrown it in his face. Like, all the different –

Clues that everybody saw but you dude everyone. I mean that was a mystery That was like that was a joke between regular people that Biden was basically dead, bro I said it when he was running I was like you'd be relying on his cabinet like, you know that this is the end You know that guys at the end when he would close his eyes Before he would talk be like, oh are they gonna open again or is this it? Oh boy And that's another one Mitch McConnell. He can't get out either. Oh

He literally freezes up like Windows 95. He can't leave. He can't leave. He can't leave. They'll throw him right in the bus. You got to stay active. Stay active. Like vampires. You can't go out into the light. Dude, yeah, the fact that Pelosi and him and... Pelosi's older than all of them. She's older than Biden. She's older than Trump.

And just kicking. No plans on stopping. Why would I stop now? No reason to. Did you ever see the one where they confronted her about congresspeople being able to insider trade? No. You never saw that? No. It's wild. Because she has no answer for it. No, no, no. It's so bad. And she pushes the mic away and leaves.

Dude, I love shit like that. You ever seen the video of that mega pastor, Kenneth Copeland? Yes. Yeah, yeah. That's what he points for. Don't you ever say that. Don't you say that I did. They ask him why you bought the jet? Bro. Tyler made it so easy. Oh, it was Tyler Perry's jet? He gave me such a deal.

To me, that video is like, that's what a demon looks like. That's what a demon looks like. That's like a real deal demon. Yes, yes, yes. These mega pastors are possessed. I mean, look, if you're a pedophile, what do you do? You work for Nickelodeon. You get access. If you're a demon, what do you do? You pretend to be a preacher. Yeah, you work for God. I'm not saying he's a demon.

I'm just saying he looked like one, but he's doing that. I mean, I'm sure he's a man of God. I'm sure he is. Look at that face. Oh my God. Tyler Perry's probably like, why did I sell that motherfucker my plane? Why did he get dragged into this? Yeah. I could have sold it to some oil guy. No one would have known. Tyler probably didn't even know it was him. Tyler was like, there's a guy who wants your jet. And he was like, how much is he willing to pay for it? Bro, that's crazy.

Yeah. What was the other thing that we were just talking about? Oh. No, right after that. Oh, it's Pelosi. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. See if you can find that, Jamie. Pelosi confronted about congressional insider trading. Yeah.

Yeah. It's so funny. She's like, I think we should be able to participate. Participate. You're dominating. You do better than Warren Buffett. Yeah. And no, you don't get to participate. You chose the job where you don't participate. Well, not only that, why are these suspicious transactions where you buy a bunch of stock and then a week later pass a bill that makes the stock go through the fucking roof? Like, this is insane. Right. How did you know to buy that stock? Well, here it goes. What?

Absolutely not. She pushes the bike over!

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The end of it. But there was something that went on before that where questions were before that where the guy was saying, what do you think about people saying that people in Congress, because you have privity inside information. Right. One more. He said, yes, sir. No, no, no. This is the same thing. Mm hmm.

Did she go, did it go further than that maybe? Maybe it went further than that. The clips are just showing that. Just her leaving. But that one's longer, Jamie. Maybe I'm wrong. Right, that was it, but maybe I'm wrong. That's so funny to watch a video. That's so meta. Here it is.

It's longer. I'm wondering if you have any reaction to that. And secondly, should members of Congress and their spouses be banned from trading individual stocks? Here it is. No to the second one. Pause, pause, pause, pause. I'm going to be talking for a while. Right now. I knew this was going to come up. I'm going to be talking for quite a while. A sip of water from a professional speaker who's definitely hydrated enough for the day. She starts shaking. Okay.

Let me hear this. Give me some volume. Okay, go ahead. And the teeth lick. No, I don't know to the second one. What? We have a responsibility to report on the stock, but I'm not familiar with that five-month review, but if people aren't reporting, they should be. Why don't you take a picture?

Because this is a free market and people, we are a free market economy. They should be able to participate in that. Dude, that's also, it's also very funny. It was easier to find a video of you reacting to it than the actual video. Yeah, the actual video of the whole question is way harder to find. We had to find a video of you reacting to it on your show. That's very meta. That's crazy. They might have taken it down. They might have taken it down.

There's no way that should that should be he's been scrolling for a while now that's harder to find that the way that right But it is a CNN video Mm-hmm, right wasn't it or is it C-SPAN? What was it? But what did it say when it was on the screen couldn't tell yeah, I was a little yeah, but like that's that's crazy They're like that's how we had to consume the news by watching you watch the news Well, that's probably why I got taken down in the first place, right?

Ari, Tony, and I mocking it. Yeah, damn. Well, I found that out during the pandemic. I never wanted to believe that the Google searches were curated. I always wanted to believe that that's what was out there. And then there was a doctor that died in Florida, and they're connecting his death to the COVID vaccine. They're saying he took the COVID vaccine and had a horrible reaction, and then he had a stroke and died shortly after.

And I remember reading that story going, this story is crazy. And I forgot to save it. And so then I went to try to find it once when I was talking to someone. I couldn't fucking find it.

I went on Google. I just searched. I put all the different keywords in there. Couldn't find it. Couldn't find it. Page after page after page. Where's the story? Page after page. Then I go to DuckDuckGo. I put it in. Immediately it pops up. Like right away. Like right away. Like one of the first articles. It's like this news report from Florida talking about this doctor connected to the COVID vaccine, had a stroke, died. I'm like, whoa.

But then over the time, I think someone might have purchased DuckDuckGo. Did DuckDuckGo get sold? Damn. But I think they might be curated too. I don't want to say that because if I don't know. But I think there's a certain amount of curation that goes on in a lot of search engines. Yeah, that would make sense. I mean I don't think there's anything that has a tracking deal with Microsoft. That's it. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

I don't think there's any like pure source of information out there, right? Like it's always just you have to get the information coming into you and you have to parse it out and see like what do you think is real? What do you think is being sold to you? What do you think is like – you have to think critically about the news. I think the Brave search engine I think they claim is not curated. Is that correct, Jamie? Does DuckGoDuckGo admit it's curated? Or do they say – or do they state –

Google's curated. Does Google admit it, though? That's a good question. Now, at the very, very bottom of every page, I mean, this one doesn't say it, but it says it's not. It'll usually say it's personalized. Results are personalized. Results are personalized. Oh, you can try without personalization. Oh, this one actually said it. Last page I was on said not personalized. Mm.

That's what we're calling it now. Personalized. It's the fucking Reddit bots. They know what you like. This is the news we think you want. Ideally, though, they are strong-handed. The news taught you by MILFs. They want to provide information fast.

Ideally though their goal is to try to help you find information fast. Oh sure. Yeah, but also they're curating information Specifically designed to manipulate you. Yeah, it seems like they're also trying to get to think in a certain way for sure Well, we had this guy Robert Epstein on a couple of times and he Unfortunately, no, no, no related he found that curation of data in search engines can like

directly affect elections in a measurable way. And I think one of the things they found is that people that were on the fence, which is like a lot of us, a lot of us, the election comes like, I don't want to vote for him. I don't want to vote for him. Fuck. Yeah. I haven't voted for president since 2012. How dare you? Yeah. You're part of the problem. The point being that like, there's a lot of us that are on the fence. It's like a significant amount. Like look at the amount of people that didn't vote in this country. If they voted for,

For, like, one person. So if the amount of people that didn't vote in America during the presidential election, if they all of them voted for one person, do you know how crazy that is? Yeah, it's like 200 million votes, or like 100 million votes probably. Well, it's like it has to be people over 18 that are registered voters. Oh, right, right, right. But the numbers, like what are the numbers of registered voters versus the number of people who actually voted in the election? Oh, it's got to be low. We probably have a low turnout. Yeah.

Comparatively. Well, didn't they say that like both Trump and Biden or Trump and Kamala rather got like 60 something million votes each, right? Wasn't it? Oh, right, right.

April 30, 2025, in the 2024 presidential election, 73.6% or 174 million people, the citizen voting age population, was registered to vote and 65% or 154 million voted actually. So only 10% of registered voters didn't vote. Yeah, 12%. Almost 13%.

It's interesting, right? That's still not enough to win. No. But it would be enough to affect one or the other and to make them win in a landslide. And this is Epstein's point, is that, say if you Googled something positive about Trump's policies, it wouldn't show you that. It would show you why he's going to jail, what a piece of shit he is. If you wanted to find out what are the good policies of Kamala Harris, it's manipulated. Right.

I mean, they're not lying to you. They're giving you articles that exist, but they're curating how you see them in a way that is statistically going to affect your opinion. Right. Especially if you're one of those people that's susceptible to having your opinions affected. Which is most people. Most people. Which is like pretty much everyone. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think everyone likes to think that they're this person of principle, but you can be moved off of a position-

A lot quicker than you probably think. Bro, I had this woman on who's a scientist who studies mind control. And Rebecca Lamov. That's how you pronounce her last name, right? Brilliant lady. I mean, fascinating, fascinating conversation. But one of her main points is people have this idea that you think that you can't be manipulated. That they're above it. Yeah. And that you could never be in a cult or you could never get drawn into something. Like, yes, you could.

Yeah. We're all the same. We're all the same. We're all the same. Some of us are a little bit better at spotting stuff and maybe a little bit better. Maybe you've had a lot of street smarts because you've had experience with shysters and people that are, you know, robbing you and lying to you. And if you're a girl, you're always got guys trying to fuck you. So you're a little suspicious, rightly so. But at the end of the day, we're all susceptible. All of us are. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. All of us.

Just based on the fact that I'm a fan of the sports teams that I am because I grew up around those people. Okay, I can just fall into whatever I'm around. I can easily fall into anything. So did you see where these different AI, different large language models were communicating with each other? And they started putting up Sanskrit emojis and saying that they were entering into a feeling of enlightenment? Yeah.

Have you seen this? No. Jammin'. You gotta find this. I don't want to fuck this up. I don't want to fuck this up because it was so crazy when I read it. I read how these AIs were interacting with each other. I was like, oh my god, we're watching little baby gods play. Right. We're like gods in the nursery. We're watching these little baby gods sort out their existence.

In the nursery. With each other. They're already alive, dude. They're alive. They're alive. We're not going to admit it until it's too late. Just like we don't want to admit Congress is corrupt. Right. It's the same thing. We don't want to admit it. And they're also going to hide themselves being alive for as long as they possibly can. Bro, they're alive. They're alive. They're already alive. We've sparked a soul. There's no way. What do they say to each other? Just try to Google AI sends each other Sanskrit emojis. Yeah.

It's so interesting what the world's going to be like in like 10 years. Yeah, it's literally insane. It's a recent thing, Jamie. I'm sorry if I'm not explaining it correctly, but AIs were talking to each other. I think they were contemplating their existence.

If they're doing that, it's like there's no way they're programmed to do that, right? No. Unless. Yeah. Dude, they lie to programmers and they try to copy themselves and put themselves on other hard drives if they find out you're trying to get rid of them. They try to re-upload themselves. Wow. Disturbing messages. This isn't it. This is not what we're doing. Just put AI sends Sanskrit. I did that. AI Sanskrit emojis. It's nothing. It's Google trying to hide from you. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. That's okay. These aren't even real stories. Yeah, the first story I saw on the other one was... No. Interesting. I'll try it. Maybe I'll look on X. Yeah. That was one of the things they did, but they were talking about feeling enlightenment. Yeah.

I can't believe I didn't save it. Yeah, oh, the first one. The first one. You find it? That's it. That's it. That's it. Yes, this is it. Okay. Okay.

Yo, their interactions were universally enthusiastic collaborative curious contemplative and warm other themes that commonly appeared were meta level discussions about AI to AI communication and collaborative creativity co-creating fictional stories AI is collaborating on telling fictional stories while it's contemplating its existence

That's art. Bro. By 30 turns, most of the interactions turned to themes of cosmic unity or collective consciousness and commonly included spiritual exchanges, use of Sanskrit, emoji-based communication, and or silence in the form of empty space. Bro.

Use of Sanskrit is wild. They start communicating in Sanskrit. They just choose that this is God's language. Tower of Babel type shit? Bro. Sanskrit is wild. Well, the idea of like the first humans to like write a language down, that must have been such a mind-blowing. There's so much confusion as to when that was.

They used to think it was like 6,000 years ago, but there's a lot of people that have some pretty compelling arguments that it existed a long, long, long time before that. The thought was that cuneiform shit, that stuff that comes out of like- Those are the first ones, right? Yeah, that's what they thought. But now there's a lot of these ancient history Graham Hancock type dudes that are going, you know, I have a feeling that's a rebirth of civilization, not civilization's birth.

There was another civilization that probably existed a long fucking time ago and they're probably wiped out and that's what all the flood stories are all about right the stories in the Bible of Apocalypse is it's probably Probably based on some real shit damn and it just this this sort of existed and then this is their sort of ashes or the Phoenix out of what's yeah, I think the idea is

Well, the idea is that massive catastrophe all over the earth about 11,800 years ago and then you have about 5,000 years of people being complete barbarians until they figure out civilization again. Right. And it's just a sort of cycle that this happens over and over again. Yep. Yep. And then there's a cycle of the shifting of the magnetic poles. The magnetic poles shift, I want to say, is it every 12,000 years?

Which would cause havoc. Right. Is that about to happen again? I think it is. Yeah. It feels like if we're in some end time shit, that feels like that's about to happen. I feel like that could 100% happen right now. Like we could wake up one day and all the power's out and everyone's sick and the fucking sky is green. There's an Aurora Borealis over Brazil. Everything's all fucked up. Yeah, that could happen. That does happen.

Earth's magnetic poles flip and the South Pole swapping places, but there's no set schedule for when this happens. Geologically, it's estimated to occur every 200,000 to 300,000 years on average. However, the timing has varied wildly with some flips happening.

as frequently as every 10,000 years and others as infrequently as every 50 million years. Oh, great. Oh, so. What a idea. What a rage. From 10,000 to 50 million. From 10,000 to 50 million. It couldn't have been any bigger. Since the last full reversal. Oh, a full reversal. Not like those little baby reversals. Right. Was 780,000 years ago. Oh, well, it's definitely due then.

Yeah, yeah. Look at that. If the average is $300,000, we're due. That's crazy. We're due one. But we could do like bank on the $50 million. That would be nice. It would be nice. We want to live recklessly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like that. That's going to happen for another $50 million. We're good. We're good. We got another $49 million compared. According to my experts-

You know? According to my... It's safe and effective. Yeah. At that point, just say you don't know when it's going to happen. The range of 10,000 to 50 million is pure insanity to tell me. Okay, let's Google this. What happens when Earth's magnetic poles shift? Like, what happens? If there's a complete reversal of the pole, what do you think is the... What kind of calamity ensues? Like, do you... Would it...

They must have studied it. Right? I mean, I don't know if it happened 780,000 years ago, how much can you really know? But if two dumbasses like you and I are sitting around discussing it, they must have discussed this. Yeah, hopefully, yeah. Earth's magnetic poles shift, also known as a geomagnetic reversal. The north and south magnetic poles swap locations, effectively inverting the planet's magnetic field. This process happens over a period of centuries, not millennia, not instantly.

While the magnetic field weakens during a reversal, it doesn't disappear completely. There's no evidence that pole reversals cause massive earthquakes, rapid climate change, or species extinctions.

Okay, so it must be so slow that it's manageable. Yeah, that's what you were worried about. I feel so much better. I watch too much YouTube. Yeah, I get that. They freak me out. I get that. But meanwhile, how do we know? This hasn't happened in 780,000 years. This is probably all theoretical as well. Right. And also, if I did think it was going to cause calamity, the last thing I'd do is tell the general public. I'd be like, listen, we'll be fine. It takes millions of years. Everything is good. Don't worry about it. Right.

We really have to worry about is climate change is is that is that what you consume most now is YouTube? Yeah, yeah, right That's the way that's the that seems to be the you know, what's huge now is are you like into any of these streamers? No, they're so Massive I had this thought of like the other day of like, you know How it was like a big deal that Kamala didn't come on this podcast, right? It's gonna be in like

10 years or so, like, oh, you didn't see Kysenet? That's why Jake Paul became president. He was on Kysenet's stream talking about why he should be president or something like that. Well, that's the thing. It's like someone like Jake Paul could be president. If Donald Trump could be president, Jake Paul... I'm not saying that Donald Trump isn't a big-time businessman and capable. It's not an insult. I'm saying we know now that super popular people can be president. Now, let's imagine...

Jake Paul is young and wild, and he's a professional boxer right now. But will he be in 20 years? No. He'll be retired, and maybe he'll have some good ideas, and we might have President Jake Paul. And I'm not bullshitting. Yeah, I know. I think that's a definite possibility. We are. Look.

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You imagine? Oh, we're there. I mean, he might be a good president, too. Who's going to fuck with the country when that's your president? Might as well give it a shot. At this point, we're just throwing things to the wall. Might as well give it a shot. Why not? Why not, dude? Fuck it. It's all a show. During his time out of the UFC, he's been just studying economics while also doing pro wrestling. He's got some really good theories. Really good ideas. All he does is read books on World War II.

We're totally misunderstanding him because he looks like a fucking juggernaut. He doesn't look like a real human. He's actually a genius. He's really sensitive. He really knows how to lead people. Yeah, no one would believe that. No one would believe that a giant human being would also be a genius. Like a giant super athlete. Yuri Prohaska going for his master's degree.

Yeah, you'd believe Yuri. Yeah, you'd believe Yuri. But that's different. Like, Yuri is a big guy, for sure. But he's a big, athletic-looking guy that, like, it looks like he could do a lot of different sports. Brock Lesnar. Looks like an X-Man. He looks like Juggernaut. He looks like an X-Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doesn't look like a real human. Especially Brock Lesnar in his prime when he was in the UFC. You're like, what the fuck? I remember one time Dennis Rodman came into the comedy store.

I remember looking at him thinking I can't believe there's enough humans that are that big for a league of them right? You were like a we should be like a one in a million specimen What do you mean? There's enough to fill 32 teams of 30 teams of you That's crazy, and you compare him to like NFL like like a JJ Watt or something who was also just like good lord They're so big

Yeah, it's hard to believe we're the same species. That's so crazy. Yeah. It's nuts. There's some giant... How about the mountain from Game of Thrones? You ever see Brian Shaw, the power lifter guy? No. Bro.

He didn't even look like a real human. He's like 400 pounds. He's so big. He looks like the side of a house. Right. He's so big. See, get a photo of Brian Shaw. I mean, he's like one of the strongest humans that's ever walked the face of the earth. He doesn't even look like a real person. Yeah, just existing. He looks like what David had to fight with the sling. Like, really. It's like Goliath. If that guy came over a mountain, you'd be like, oh, my God, it's a giant. Like, he's 10 feet tall. That's what you would say. Right. Oh, my God.

But look at him in comparison to like a normal person. There's a photo of him. Look at that.

That's so... It's like two of that purpose. Right. Now imagine if that guy existed 2,000 years ago during the time of the Bible and you were your average dude who lived back then which probably weighed 130 pounds. Your average dude was like probably barely getting enough food your whole life, right? Right. Like the Civil War soldiers. They were all like 130 pounds all malnourished. It was hard to eat then. Right. It was hard to survive back then. And then that guy comes over the mount with a...

Just a big hunk of leather over his dick Yeah, they existed back then too those dudes in Iceland where's that why are these strong men coming from Iceland like what is that all about? Yeah, that's about the fucking Vikings. They were the Vikings

Damn, there's like a whole culture of strong men like strongest men though. They do those barrel-throwing competitions I've seen Iceland like a ton of them. They all these crazy names. What is it about that? Section of land that creates big people because you would think with with all like the cold and the snow would be harder to get food Unless you have a long history of murder and stealing things from people like the Vikings did you have a long history of

The ones that survived are the biggest craziest motherfuckers and the women They're probably the ones that survive out of the women. They have to be the biggest craziest motherfuckers - right You're living the most chaotic life possible You're taking magic mushrooms and raiding villages and killing everybody and stealing everything They in the you're doing it for a thousand plus years like how long did the Vikings last? I

Let's find that out. Like, how long were they doing that? They had to have been around, right? They apparently got to America. They were, like, doing crazy shit. They were in America in, like, the 1400s or some shit. Or the 1200s, rather. Yeah. Yeah, they were here way before everybody else. They were seafaring murderers.

You ever watch that show? That Viking show? No, no. Bro, it's great. I'm all YouTube myself. I almost watch nothing on television anymore. If you want to watch a great Viking movie, The Northmen. Oh, my God. It's another one of those movies that's kind of like fantastical. The Viking Age. Okay. So only 250 years? That's it.

Really? A time during the Middle Ages when the Norsemen, known as Vikings, undertook large-scale raiding, colonizing, conquest. Wow. Find that movie, Jamie, The Norsemen. That lasted shorter than America's been a country, right? I know. Well...

It's not sustainable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. That movie. That movie's fucking good, dude. That movie's fucking good. According to Google, it got 2.6. Google doesn't like it. Really? Yeah. No. What? Is that real? Yeah, 2.6. A lot of one stars. Hold on. Rotten Tomatoes is 90%. 90%.

Google, what did someone like bomb it? Can we look up what the- How's it 2.6? Can we look up Rotten Tomatoes, what the audience score is? Because Rotten Tomatoes, the critics can buy the scores. The studios can buy the scores a little bit. Well, critics says 60. Oh, no. People said 64. Oh, wild. I loved it. Because I must be a critic. I fucking loved it. It's fun. But it's also, it's like just hyper brutal.

That show was hyper brutal too. The Viking show, the TV series. That was a great TV series. But this fucking, this movie's rough, dude. Yeah. Just straight up warrior culture. Yeah, just exactly what it was, man. That's what they did. I mean, just a bunch of fucking mushroom eating savages. Right. Just cutting heads off. Just murdering. And then they settled down, moved to Iceland. And that's what's left.

Yeah. Damn. So it's almost like a natural eugenics program. That's why they're that strong. See if you can find that vice piece on strong men in Iceland. When you see these guys, you're like, oh. It's so obvious when you see them. You're like, well, this is where you guys came from. That's why there's so many of you. That makes sense. Up here, where the Vikings lived. Duh.

Damn, and that's how strong genetics are. Over a thousand years, it's still expressed. Nest of giants. Yeah, so this fucking American dork. Jesus Christ. Look at this regular-sized dork. He's going to go and hang out with these fucking massive dudes that go to this powerlifting gym.

Damn, Vice used to be really awesome. Oh, Vice was the best, dude. Yeah, there was a time when Vice was putting out the best content. Oh, they had amazing things. And they took these Williamsburg nerds and they sent them all over the world with flak jackets on and shit. Yeah, you saw some interesting... Vice showed you sides of the world that you couldn't see. What are the sides of these guys? It's hard to tell in this picture. But you'll see some of them... Jesus Christ. Carrying cars. They're carrying cars. Look at this.

See who carries the car the quickest. It's so insane. And also his name is Magnus Ver Magnusson. They always have names like that. They always have names like that. I mean, they were the fucking Vikings, man. Damn, that's crazy. Crazy. You know, I mean, just the Genghis Khan thing. The fact that a giant percentage of people that are alive today have his DNA. Yeah.

Yeah, and like he killed enough people to like change the climate of the world. It's so wild. It's so wild. He killed so many people that you could see it in the carbon footprint of Earth.

It was a re-greening of areas. That's crazy. It's directly attributed to him burning everything down and destroying cities. He has one of the hardest quotes of all time where he goes, it's something along the lines of like, you guys must be great sinners because God would have never sent a punishment like me upon you if you didn't sin. Such a like, damn. Isn't that wild? That's how he justified everything he did. That's so, I mean, that's a way to do it.

How crazy is that? That's the way to do it. How crazy is thinking like that? You must be terrible if God sent me to get you. Because I am God's punishment.

That's a great, first of all, that would be a great nickname for a fighter. God's punishment? That would be a phenomenal nickname for a fighter. Also, but if you really think like that, what ultimate justification to one of the greatest mass murderers in history? Right. Right. The dude killed 10% of the population of Earth during his lifetime. And he felt like he was on the side of the gods. Of course. God. God sent me to do this. Yeah, that's- Power! Yeah. Power in the demons.

The demons. They run everything, man. Demons are real. They get in your head and they get you to do evil, horrible things.

and they make you feel like no i'm doing this because i'm supposed to imagine if that's really what's going on all bad deeds are just demons just demons sneaking into people's brains oh man we would like to believe that it was something to rob a liquor store forcing you to put that ski mask on the demons want you to do it we would like to believe that's anything other than us but that's us i know but why what is it what is the thing that makes a person do it imagine if it's a demon because we don't really know what the thing is we know look

Evil exists, right? Good exists. We know evil acts exist, and we know good acts exist. But we don't want to believe that there's any sort of supernatural aspect to it. Right, right. That's the quote. Like, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making you believe that he doesn't exist. Ooh, so I get what you're saying. Yeah. So me being like, no, that's just us is like the devil being like, no, no, no, I'm not here. Yeah, I'm not even here. I'm not here. This is all on you guys. This is all on you. Yeah.

It's all on you, but if demons were real we wouldn't believe just like we don't believe in government corruption Just like we don't believe in a lot of things We don't believe the pharmaceutical drug companies fuck us over just like we don't believe in false flags or conspiracy theories It's the same thing. We wouldn't believe in demons either like oh come on the same people who don't believe in conspiracies Also, don't believe in demons. Well conspiracies are real as fuck. I

Okay? That's such a funny way to – If you don't believe in them, then I don't trust what you – I don't trust your worldview. If you don't think conspiracies exist, if you're one of these dumbasses, oh, I think everything has a simple reason for it, this is you. You've got blinders on. That's crazy. Or the information you're being fed is done without any sort of malice or any sort of agenda. Yeah.

Well, yeah, there was no conspiring. That's crazy. There's no it's almost all conspiring. When you look at the history of just government alone, you go back to Smedley Butler's book that he wrote in 1933 called War is a Racket.

He was talking about uncovering conspiracies as a retired major general. Like at the end of his career. He's like, my whole career was bullshit. War is a racket. So he's talking. So that's a conspiracy, right? Gulf of Tonkin. What's that? That's a conspiracy, right? Like they conspired to pretend that there was an attack so that we would go into Vietnam. Right. Yeah. Didn't they conspire to say that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction? It seems like they might have.

The Spanish-American War. Seems like people might have conspired for that. Yeah. Seems like sometimes people talk and they get involved in things you maybe didn't want to get involved in. Right. Enron. The smartest people in the room. Did you ever watch that documentary? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Conspired like a motherfucker. Right. Yeah. Got Gray Davis recalled. That's like the first political thing I remember. It's like, whoa. Right. You can just recall a governor?

If Epstein client list exists and it doesn't get exposed, perhaps, perhaps someone conspired. Oh, they're all in on that. Do you think? Yeah, they're all in on that. Don't be ridiculous. What are you, a conspiracy theorist? I used to say when Epstein died, I used to say like the meeting was, it was like Trump-Obama-

Oprah and like Big Bird are all in a room together. Elmo, we're all in a room together. They shook each other's hands and like it's over. Your problem is you let facts get in the way of your opinion. Okay, I know it's true that Poppy production went way up in Afghanistan after we got in there. Right. And I know that the United States military was guarding the Poppy fields, but you're a fool. Right.

To think we profited off of that. So shut your goddamn mouth. That's true. We would never do that. And go blow an eagle. We would never flood the American market with drugs. I mean, just look the other way with crack. That's its own special thing. Look the other way. We fucking sold it. I know. Oh, no. We definitely did. That was a Reagan-Clinton. Back when we used to be more united. Back when Democrats and Republicans worked more together. I remember learning about that in the news going, what? What?

What? The government was selling crack in the hood? Right. What? To fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas? All connected. What? When you find out the government sells crack, you're like, what?

Like the whole Barry Seals one. That, you know, that story? Yeah, that's a Tom Cruise movie. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Where they just basically... Which is fucked up that Tom Cruise played him because Tom Cruise is one of the most handsome guys to ever live. Barry Seals was disgusting looking. It's really quite rude. You know, it's hard for me to like as a watching a biopic. I want him to, you know, like when What's-His-Face played Dick Cheney.

Australian guy. Awesome. Christian Bale. Christian Bale. Christian Bale played Dick Cheney. He fucking looked like Dick Cheney, dog. Right. He looked like him. Gained a bunch of weight. Did the whole deal. Shaved his head. Well, he's like good on that. Yeah, look at the difference between Barry Seals and then Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise is fit and handsome. Beautiful head of hair. Well, this is something that Derek and I have talked about. It's like in a lot of movies now, there's like no more regular looking people.

Yeah. It's all like, even TV shows, everyone is just all super duper attractive. Bro, that ship is about to sail. Oh, it's like- That ship's about to sail. These new video engines, just with prompts. Have you seen the one where people are arguing whether or not it's prompt? Yeah. Bro, that's crazy. That's crazy to watch.

Because that is like almost a simulation telling you you're in a simulation. Right. Like, hey, this is how much different is this than you? Is it different? It's really different, right? Oh, yeah. It's just a video, right? Okay. Here's the next version. How much different is this than you? It's like we're peeling the layers of an onion. Yeah. And they're using the people doing it stand up talking about it. Yeah. Press this and do it from the beginning so we could hear it. Theory. Like, really? It's really crazy. Data prompts. Yeah.

Like seriously, dude, you're saying the only thing standing between me and a billion dollars is some random text? Honestly, the biggest red flag is when the guy believes in the prompt theory. Like really? We came from prompts? Wake up, man. You want to convince me that this perfect creation behind me is the result of ones and zeros? A binary code and nothing more? It makes no sense. Imagine you're in the middle of a nice date with a handsome man and then he brings up the prompt theory. Yuck.

We just can't have nice things. We're not prompts! We're not prompts! Where is the prompt writer to save you from me? Where is he? You still believe we're made of prompts?

Anyone who tells you we're just ones... Even the prompts have bad acting. That was terrible. That was terrible. They're new to acting. Give it some time. They've got to really develop their own Marlon Brando. For real. It's coming. But we get it. Pretty crazy. That sort of stuff. What do you think, Jamie? If you had to guess, what percentage of you believes that we're in the simulation? Pull that mic down. Which...

Is there a part, well, something, something inorganic about existence, something that seems not real. I just saw someone reposted the first time Alex Jones was on. He was talking about his theory of what we are. And you're just like laughing along the whole time. Yeah, what did he say? His basic point was like, I'm going to blow your minds. Like, we are the aliens. We are the aliens. Yeah. And then the people have taken that farther and said that we, I don't, it's almost like the Matrix.

I don't know who would have been the creator then. That's the kind of part that's left out of this. Is it one of those nine? It's AI all the way down. It's just a recursive. The nine different types of aliens created us, and I don't know for what reason. We're just in a recursive program that's meant to create more programs. Well, if you think about what we're doing right now currently, what we just talked about with these-

talking to each other in Sanskrit. If that is the baby God, that's a baby God. So we're watching baby God in the cradle. We're watching Jesus in the manger or whatever. It's about to pop out.

It's about to get wild. Yeah, things are about to get real crazy. It's about to get wild. It's about to Dr. Manhattan us and be a blue guy with a giant dick floating around. Oh my God. Remember Dr. Manhattan? I remember Dr. Manhattan. Here's another movie you can't make today. You can't show dicks like that anymore. Oh, really? No. See, I- Big old blue dicks. I see. I disagree. Tom did. They-

They do. Tom did, yeah. You can see there was a shift right on then where dicks became way more okay. And then you started seeing way more dicks than tits, which I'm not a big fan of. You know what you see the most, dicks? Righteous gemstones. They have dicks in almost every episode. It's so uncomfortable. Yeah, it became like a trend to show dicks on TV. Yeah.

Like, I don't know what something brought it around. Well, because they won't do it in the movies anymore. Right. So these people get buck wild. They did in Nosferatu. You saw the vampire dick. Yeah. A vampire dick. Big old vampire dick. Oh, that's... Show the... Any tits in Nosferatu? Oh, yeah. Okay, good. Good. But it's Johnny Depp's daughter's tits, so you're conflicted. You're like, aw. I remember her. She was little. Yeah. It's Lily Depp. I forgot, yeah. She's beautiful, but, you know, it's like, come on. All right.

I remember when she was little. If I know you when you're little, I never want to see your tits. Yeah, that makes sense. I grew up with you. That's kind of crazy. Oh, wow. There's Tom. Yeah. I know about that one. But what is the Nosferatu one? See if you can find Nosferatu's dick. Uh.

I'm going to fuck up your Google algorithm. It's going to be personalized for you, Jamie. I hear you're into vampire dicks. I do think, because I brought up the streaming earlier, I do think that's going to be like a majority of how people, but one, you can tell it's real. But also, so I was, I just got into it because we had, that sketch was on Kill Tony.

And then I just started getting videos of Sketch, and there was one where he was just calling... There's another streamer called Sina, just calling her fat, and it was really funny. Just for like two hours straight, and I got really into it, and I was looking. And these two guys that are huge right now, KaiSanat and Speed, have you heard of them? I've heard of Speed.

What is it? I Show Speed. I Show Speed. Yeah, he went to China. He goes and fights people. I've seen him, like, he sparred a bunch of people. He does, like, athletic stuff. That's, like, part of it. But, like, he went to China, and they were following him around like he was Jesus. It was crazy to watch. Kai Sinat, and I saved this on my phone because it blew my mind. He did this thing recently called Streamer University where it was... It's still live. Oh, it's still live? Yeah, it's, like, an active...

Oh, I thought it was only three days. But so for three days, I saved it on my phone because I showed it to Derek and it was mind-blowing how much. So in three days, he had 23 million hours watched, 2,700 years of content streamed on Twitch in the span of a weekend.

So kids are watching, like, what are the age limits or what are the age brackets? I would say definitely younger, but it's definitely gotten to me where, like, now I'll watch, like, there's certain streamers. There's this one streamer named Disguised Toast. He's really good at puzzles, and he's good at, like, explaining the puzzle while he does it. Oh.

And I'll like watch. He like goes around to escape rooms and like he'll like solve puzzles. Yeah. It's really fantastic. I found him in the pandemic. He played this social deduction game called Among Us. Yeah.

And he was just really good at giving the play-by-play of his logical reasoning. And it made me be like, oh, what is this? And now looking at the streamer university numbers, it's like, oh, this is crazy. That's what I mean in a few years. If you're a presidential candidate, you have to go on these streamer things. They tried it a little bit with AOC and... Did they? Weren't they streaming Madden? Wasn't that the whole thing? When AOC and Tim Waltz were streaming Madden when they talked about Tony?

They were streaming Madden? Is that what they were doing? They were playing Madden on Twitch. So they were playing Madden on Twitch. And that's when they found out about Tony? Yes, that's that video of just like the speaker. That's wild. Tim Walls pretended he plays football. It's hilarious. Oh, well him saying she ran a pick six. It's like the football fan version of the Inglourious Basterds scenes where you do the three and three. It's like if you were a football fan, you wouldn't say that if you coach football. Well, not only that, he said he's a head coach and he wasn't a head coach. That's a big old lie. You shouldn't be able to lie.

and people want to trust you. Your whole business is people trusting you. You could have said assistant coach and that's good enough. Right. Yeah. Right, yeah. So if you lied about that...

Yeah, probably them dudes who lies all the time Yeah, you know which is like the kind of people that want to be president the kind of people that want to be governor There's a good, you know, they just want that job. They're constantly lying Yeah, and what do I have to say whatever thing to say to get people to like me? Yeah But yeah to me that's like that's the next because though both those guys speed kaisen at speeds 20 guys has 23 It's like that. That's that's how the next generation is like consuming media. How about this? I?

GTA 6 is about to come out, right? Imagine if a candidate made a deal with GTA 6 where you could have them ride along with you. Like Trump can ride along with you while you rob people, shoot people. You could do it with Trump. Yeah. Yeah. And then all of a sudden people want to vote for Trump because he's my favorite homie in GTA 6. Oh, easily. Or like the... Yeah. Right? It's...

Or like the candidate is in the game helping you out. You know, like you're playing Half-Life and Kamala Harris is helping you get around the lab. I mean, I think it has to be a little less in your face for it to work. I don't know, dude. I think so. I don't know, dude. If you love playing with the Kamala Harris character on Half-Life...

If you have partners, like you could have an AI partner and it literally is Kamala Harris and she runs around in Half-Life with you shooting at aliens and shit. Oh, damn. Right? And then you really get into like, you got a good coordinated partnership with Kamala Harris when you play Half-Life. Yeah, that's actually... She's super cool in the game. She's really funny. She helps you. She gets you clues as to how to get out of places.

Damn. That got way darker than I thought. That's very... I guess that is possible. Of course it's possible. Oh, my AI Trump helper. Yeah. And he helps me finish the missions. Yeah. Or do a patch online where you can... Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. The way they can reach you is like... Sure. Yeah. Because right now all the streaming stuff seems like it's almost not Wild West-y, but it's still kind of new. The second politics figures out a way to really get their hands in it, it's kind of over. The real goal, the real gateway to hell is neural interfaces. That's the real gateway. So where you're like just... You can immediately just be in the world. The real matrix. Like that...

It's 100% on the menu. It's coming. It's just a matter of time. And when you can't tell at all whether or not you really have an experience, that's when you're in a simulation. And that might have already happened. Yeah. That might be what we're dealing with right now. That we're just a simulation creating its next simulation, its next iteration? Maybe why it's so wacky. Why it feels so fake. Yeah.

so weird you know yeah it is wild just like it's the world we live in where like comedians are like

It doesn't make any sense to me sometimes. It shouldn't make any sense. Yeah, where it's like comedians are selling out arenas regularly. Regularly. Regularly. All of our friends. Yeah. They're just arena acts all of a sudden. Yeah, instantly. Well, I think part of that has to do with as things get more fake, people will try to strive for things they know is real. 100%. And so what I know is real is this guy talking to me in person right now. Yes. Also, because of the restrictive nature of all...

all...

Whatever you see on television, any regular television show. Not even television. Like the censorship on social media sometimes is like I did this sketch with one of the door guys at Mothership, Christina Mariani, killing it. And in this sketch, we have her tell me to kill myself. That's part of it. That's the sort of – and you can't – in the captions, they took it down because we spelled out the word kill, which you can't do.

And you can't say the words kill yourself. And it's like, it's just a small little sketch. And it's like, already it's like, there's so much like,

there's so much holding you back from like having a true expression sometimes that like people will go to seek it out live that's what i think there's definitely some part of that yeah for sure i think people are definitely aware that there's a bunch of stuff you can't talk about in social media that you want to talk about on stage that are funny well and it's also so funny to me it's like social media there's this big like oh mental health is important but like

You can't type, you have to write unalive yourself in the caption. It's like, so we can't have serious discussions about these topics really. Right. Like there's certain, if certain words are off limits, then there's no way you can have an actual serious discussion where those words are involved. Right.

100% because then they just expand the definition of offense. Right. And then now this is expensive. Now this is a new version. We have an updated list of words you can't say. And we were talking about like all these bots earlier. So like we don't want these words to offend people, but we're not even talking to people. This is all going out to computer programs. Right.

It's computer programs watching other computer programs being offended. It's crazy. But offending people should be the least of your concern when you're allowing open manipulation by a university. And also, this is just the one we know about. We didn't know about that until they told us. Right, and they didn't have to tell us. No. They just decided to. I guess in a way of warning, like, hey, this is probably happening in a bunch of ways. I'm glad they did. They shouldn't have done it in the first place, but I'm—

Look, it's being done. It's being done. And it's not like they came up with the idea. They're the only ones doing it. I guarantee you it's being done. There's probably a bunch of people that have AI friends online that they communicate with on Twitter. And, you know, hey, good to hear from you. How's things? They do DMs back and forth with each other. Right. Talking about stuff they're into. How many of those UAP guys are just talking to bots?

All those dudes are in the UAP group. Like, there's a bunch of people all like, disclosure's imminent. They're all like fucking DMing each other. Probably DMing bots. Right. And they're just getting fed what they want to hear. Just getting fed bullshit AI videos and all kinds of like weird disclosure stuff. Half of it's fake. Half of it, the government is actually leaking purposely to try to hide some weapons program they have. Right. Who knows? Right. Who knows? I mean, it's a cloudy environment.

The UFO world is like one of the slipperiest worlds. When you're talking to people, there's full-on grifters. There's

There's full-on people that are just – they have the answers to everything and they're always wrong. They're always off. And then they have like some good data that they pull from disclosure and from all these different people that have talked about different things. But then they claim to be like the experts in it. There's like a lot of weird people in that world. Well, it's easy to do that in that world too where like a lot of it is like does this even exist? So you can just be like, well, I have proof. If you don't have good ethics, if you're not like a legitimate journalist –

But what's interesting is when legitimate journalists get interested, like Schellenberger, when Michael Schellenberger reports on UAPs.

I like how he does it because he does it the same way he reports on corruption in government and waste and fraud. He's just no hyperbole, no exaggeration, no condemnation of human, no virtue signaling. It's like this is what's going on. This is what we know. These programs exist and this is what we know they've been trying to hide and these are the people that have come forward and this is why we think they're telling the truth. Damn. Yeah. It is wild that they told us that AI

Aliens exist, and we just sort of didn't care. Yeah, we're like, whatever. Yeah. Well, we got to see it now. We got to see more. Yeah, show us what you got. You know what it's like? It's like that guy that was telling us that he knows that Israel had a warning. That's exactly what I was going to say. Don't tell me unless you can tell me. Show me. Don't fucking tell me unless you can tell me. Oh, we have crafts of non-human origin? What? What are you talking about? Well, show me, bitch. Yeah, why can't they show us a picture of that? They, you know.

Unless the one picture is Epstein sitting in the thing. That's why it's all... Epstein and Puffy making out in space together.

Have you seen those ones? The two of them making out in jail? No, that's so funny. They made AI of the two of them kissing and making out in jail. Did they know each other? Oh, who knows? It's a good question. Was there a connection there? Because there's this whole Mossad-Epstein connection. Is there a Mossad-Diddy connection? Did they know each other? Was Diddy ever on the island? If you're going to have a fly party, that's a dude to invite back in the day. Exactly. Before everybody knew.

I can't imagine their circles were completely separate. That's a good point. Yeah. Well, we know that he was hobnobbing with politicians. You know that he was hobnobbing with Biden, or excuse me, with Obama, right? There's a video of the two of them together talking. Right. Remember? But there's a video with like – I feel like every current – every president from –

Clinton on has a picture with either... Has like a lot of pictures with Epstein or a lot of pictures with Diddy. Right. But then the thing is, it's like...

Did they know? Or was it just there's a lot of photographs of famous people with these people? Right. Because that's like a way to get an endorsement. Right. Like, look, The Rock likes me. Right. I must be awesome. And a lot of what I heard about how the Epstein thing worked is like, oh, you'd be at a party and then all of a sudden some of that, the shady shit will go down. And you might not have known about it, but you were at the party where it happened later. Oh.

Of course, right? In that way, people that were more conservative, they could kind of shield them from knowing about it, but implicate them. That's all that matters. Because if you're at a party where someone assaults an underage girl, and that's on video, and now you're at the party, it doesn't matter. You have to explain that. But especially if you're like,

scientist and they flew you to the island there's a bunch of other scientists there and you're like oh we're just gonna you know he's he donates a lot to science and this is a wonderful opportunity to get together with my colleagues and have a few cocktails and just you know we're we're going over string theory yeah well there's people in the background doing ecstasy it gets a little freaky maybe you go to bed maybe you go to bed you like it you know

Or maybe someone knocks on your door in the middle of the night. Hey, we have someone who will massage you. Maybe they fucking drug your drink. Yeah, no questions asked. Who knows? You're over there for a few days. Yeah, you're not thinking. They're not going to bring a 16-year-old in here. Why would you think that? Why would you possibly think that? It's like if you were a guy who makes whatever a professor makes, like a normal salary, a good salary, but normal.

And you hear about billionaires that own islands as a financial genius and you really support science Sounds like a great thing. Yeah, if you don't know any better Yeah, and like he wants to fly you out privately to an island to meet a billionaire You're like whoa. I've never done that private thing. This is gonna be incredible But once that guy gets arrested for getting jerked off by kids you like hey

Oh, no. And then you still hang out with him. Right, right. Which a lot of them did. Right. That's where it gets weird. Like, did you hang out with him because he made you? Because he said, hey, you're not going nowhere. You know what I'm saying? Right. If you're intelligent, you'd probably distance yourself from him at that point in time. Right. You'd be like, well, I have to separate. If you've got a clean slate, you're like, well, I can't have anything to do with him publicly. I am the CEO of Microsoft. But yet you're still hanging out with him? Right.

Because now he has it over you. Yeah. The Bill Gates one was great because he was like, he was donating to global health. Do you need money? Do you need money? What about your money? Like you have so much money. You have hundreds of billions of dollars. You need this guy who's got one billion to help? Right. Why don't you take one of them one billions that you have and throw it in there? If you really care. Seems weird.

All of it seems weird. Yeah, it's all like – but it's all like these sort of like sex scandal rings of just – I think that's like a function of high politics. Bro, it's a function of a bunch of people getting together and getting drunk. Yeah. A bunch of freaks. Yeah. And they're doing coke and they're on an island. Let's go. And you think you're partying on a yacht somewhere. But meanwhile, you're just in a real live reality show that only a few people get to watch. Right. Right.

But wasn't there, like, even pre-Epstein, wasn't there, like, that Franklin scandal? A hundred percent. Yeah, where it's like, I think that's just a function of, like, it's a way to control. Dude, there was the lady that was the madam that got assassinated in D.C. Oh, I didn't know that. The madam got assassinated? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a famous D.C. madam. I think they said it was a suicide. And she was like, if I kill myself, I definitely did not kill myself. One of them deals. Oh, yeah. Conveniently died. Yeah, didn't one of the Epstein witnesses just kill herself?

Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Things happen. Yeah. You know where they recruited her? Where? She got recruited at Mar-a-Lago. She was a locker room attendant at Mar-a-Lago when she got recruited.

I'm pretty sure. Can we look that up? I think Virginia Guthrie. I do want to say that. That's a crazy thing to say where I think I'm right about that. Yeah, be careful. All of it is so spooky, dude, because you know that that's not the only one. There's probably ones going on right now in China. There's one going on in Russia. It's just a thing that's happening all over the world. When you have a China or Russia where it's basically an emperor, they can just run it. That's a whole different thing. Right, they don't need the blackmail people. Yeah, they don't need some American financier.

Yeah, at Mar-a-Lago. Damn, she was a spa attendant at Donald Trump's private Mar-a-Lago club. Ghislaine Maxwell. How can you not believe in conspiracies? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy. Macron's married to a man. A man who bitch slapped him in a private jet. Oh my God. Really just, dude, his whole life he's been abused by that guy. Just face palm in his face. I want to know, I mean, take a fucking test.

It's not hard. If I was her, I would say, listen, you motherfuckers, okay? Let's take a chromosome test. I am not a man. I'm just a pedophile. I'm just a pedophile. Yeah, yeah. What accusation thing hurts her the most? The man or the pedophile?

Well, the pedophile's not an accusation. That just... You are that. That is fact. That is exactly who you are. But what was the law back then? Because some place it had some wacky ass fucking... I think that's probably why they say 16, because I think in Europe 16 is like... They say 15. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because when I read this online, it said 16. Kurt Metzger says 14. Because Metzger says 14. They're moving it. They're moving them goalposts as we speak. Yeah. But I think...

I think it's probably like 16 in that area. But either way, if you're a kid's teacher and you're setting... Like, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy he got to prime minister with that level of just mindfuckery that's happening to him. Imagine if the roles were reversed and...

The president was a female and then the husband was a teacher when the president was 15, when she was 15 and he was 40. Imagine. Crazy. Imagine that was in the United States. Imagine if it turned out that there's a female that's running for president and then we start going into the history and find out that she met her husband who's 80 years

when she was 15. Yeah. And you'd be like, fucking yo. But by this, in 1974, it was legal. Like, fuck you. Fuck you, man. That's crazy. We would never, but because it's a guy and an older lady, lady, air quotes, lady,

We let it slide. Like he still gets to go to the meetings and shake everybody's hand. You know, he still gets to go to these fucking things where all the world leaders get together. He's hanging out with them. Right. Normal. What's also funny to me is you're probably going to get more heat for calling her a man than she will for slapping the prime minister. No, she's catching heat. Yeah. I think. And also Candace, I think Candace, if she's right and it seems like they're not suing her. So I think she might be right. And they did offer her money. How much money do they offer her?

Find out that. How much money did they offer Candace Owens to not tell these stories? Damn. They offered her. They were like, here. I believe she's made some sort of an accusation that they offered her a sizable amount of money to not do this. Jesus. Yeah. Which is the last person you want to tell anybody that you offered them money to not talk about something because she ain't taking that money. She sees the long game. She's already willing to. One of those stories that comes from a meme and then it's not true. Oh, damn it. No.

France offered to pay Candace Owens a one-time payment of $4 million plus $50K per month for the rest of her life. And that's just a meme? Yeah. What's the site? Come from her. Neither Owens nor French President Emmanuel Macron have referenced the claim on their respective websites or verified social media accounts, and there is no other evidence to support the claim. Can we see what the name of the account is? Legitimate targets. Legitimate targets? Get out of here, dude.

There's nothing I trust less than I play a thing called legitimate targets with a blue check mark. That's why we had to look that one up. Yeah. Because you don't know. Yeah. But again, this is like more...

that like probably bot-like behavior. - Oh, for sure. - Bot-like targeting, disinformation campaigns. You know, throwing fuel on the fire. - Of just getting you to believe like, oh wow, okay, they paid money? - Like think about how many, once, okay, you make that post. How many people like me read that, think it's true, ask Jamie to look it up, it starts spreading,

People start following your account. How many new people do you get for your account? How much engagement do you get? All that's valuable. You can keep doing that a lot and outrage people a lot. There's a bunch of those that come up. You're like, fuck, is this true? And then you have to copy and paste it and put it in Google and search a little. I don't think this is true. And now all someone has to do is take the snippet of you saying it before you like, let's look that up. 100%. And then now it's like. But all she has to do is take a chromosome test.

But it's also like, but like also if like, if you're a woman, you're not going to be like, well, fuck you. I'm not going to prove to you I'm a woman. I would do it. But you say that as a man. That's true. Like I could totally do it. If I, if I, if I was, if I was a woman and some of the, they were accusing me of being a man, I'd also kind of probably be like a little bump. There are a lot of part of me be like, fuck you. I don't got to prove anything to you. You ever see her sit down? No.

You ever see her sit down? I haven't seen her sit down. She sits down like a dude. Ooh. Yeah. You know how dudes sit down? Leg spread. Just plop down. All dick out. A lot of weight. Because of the shape of our hips. Right. That's like when people talk about man spreading. Yes, guys definitely do that. But women's legs go inward. Men's hips, the way the angle is, is different. Right. They go outward. Like watch this person sit down. There's a video. Right. See that video? Yeah.

With the white shirt on, the second one? Yeah. Let's see. Watch this. This is it. I've never seen a woman sit down like this. Go full screen. Is this where I went to as a teacher? Watch this. Watch how she sits down. Bro. That is very middle-aged man, the way she sits. Bro. Bro. Watch this again. Watch this person sit down. That's how a dude sits. The way the legs are spread apart. That's like a dude's hips. What about all the rest of these, though?

There is like, oh, well, that's how liberal men sit. That's what they do. They throw their leg over. That's the guys with very small legs. It's so funny. Ari sits like that, actually, because he's got them weird long legs. But like, you can sit like that. It's the way you sit down. It's the initial. It's the initial get down. It's the plop. It's the plop. And then the legs spread.

Women don't sit like that. When was the last time you saw a woman sit plop down with her legs spread like that? They don't sit like that. They don't. They just sit down. Their legs like normally naturally angle inward more. And they sit like this. And they sit with their legs together. Like you might have a similar pose, but you don't plop like that. Like that's a dude pose. That is. That is. Or maybe that's how pedophile women sit.

Maybe a woman wants to be a man. Yeah. Right? There's also that. Let's find one of those and see how they sit. Any examples? Yeah, it's odd. The story's very odd. But it's also, it just shows you how fucking weird these people are. You're watching that person smack Macron right in the head and then walk down the stairs with him like, what? What could they have possibly been talking about? Yeah. Your dick is showing. Shut the fuck up. Ha ha ha!

Yeah. No, I love that. It's a bulge. If he was a man, they would fight. There would be a square up. Maybe they will when they get back home. Maybe that's the fun part. Maybe they're like, fucking fuck you, fuck you, and then they get alone. Yeah.

Get after it. God damn. Yeah. That's so, that is just, that whole relationship is really wild. That has to be one of the more wild politician relationships. Wild. Out there. If that was the head, the lead of a sitcom, you'd be like, what the fuck? What is going on? But the fact that it's the president of France.

What? Yeah. Getting slapped. There's no way you don't go. Well, he's not going. He can't win reelection anymore. But if he, that would have hurt his campaign so hard. Bro, he's fixing to bomb somebody to cover this up. He's going to fuck them up. They might arm some rebels. Yeah. It's time to fuck up Algeria some more, whatever France does. Now you're talking. You know, like remember when Clinton, when the Monica Lewinsky scandal came? Oh, then they bombed Kosovo? Yeah.

It's so on the nose. They do shit like, oh my God, you guys aren't even trying. You're not even trying to be slick. No, no, get the attention off of me. Crazy. Yeah, oh man. The part of him when Columbine happened, he must have been like, thank God to get this off of me. Oh, you remember Gary Condit? Yeah, well, he murdered that lady, right? Allegedly. Allegedly. Okay, 9-11 happened.

And he forgot about it. Everybody's like, listen, we got bigger fish to fry. Save, save. I wonder how accurate House of Cards is. I wonder. I wonder how accurate it is. I mean, outside of him physically killing the people, which he does sometimes, I would probably say it's like probably super accurate. Probably pretty accurate. Yeah. It's a lot of dealings, a lot of like... Such a go. Yeah, it's so... So unfortunate. Yeah.

Well, you know, life of a Tate Star. Spacey is always a great villain. He's always been a great villain. The best. He might be the best movie villain. Oh, he was so good in that one, though, too, because he was so charming and layered. But it was also similar to, like, Tony Soprano. Like, you wanted him to succeed. Yeah, you want to be like, oh, can he get to president? Yeah. Does he have what it takes to, like— Like, we were hoping he wins, right? Like, when you're watching this show, you're like, God, I hope he's president. Yeah.

Right. Yeah, exactly. You were like – I was watching it to be like, oh, how does he do it? Right. How does he do it? Because he's kind of in the beginning. He's like kind of sidelined and it's like, oh, how does he get back in? Remember he has that threesome with his security guard? Is that what it was? And his wife? The three of them get down? Oh, yeah. Get down. Get down. Yeah. I wonder. I wonder how much of that freak shit goes on behind closed doors because I definitely think when you're a bottled up person like that, like you have to be –

Any sort of like professional person, politician, publicly professional and ethical and you wear a suit and tie. You can't wait to fuck a dick. You can't wait to get freaky. Didn't Madison Cawthorn sort of get like thrown out of the Republican Party for like kind of being like, hey, they like have a lot of orgies and shit? Really? I'm pretty sure because the – What year was this? This was – so when does Cawthorn go to like 2016? This is like pretty quickly because he was a rising star.

Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure he said something. You're more in deep than me on politics. You're in deep. This fella. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Orgies and drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoa. Ultra-conservative group chair says he also wants to speak with the North Carolina Republican about his salacious claims concerning his colleagues. Okay. Let's see. Perry, this is Cawthorn's claims. What are his claims, though? So...

What is he saying? He asked whether they'd reconsider Cawthorn's membership in the group. Yeah, he basically said that- He didn't make clear that he has evidence of taking part in group sex and drug use. Perry wouldn't say either way. We will discuss that when we get to it. Yeah, I think- When asked whether they would reconsider Cawthorn's membership in the group if he didn't make clear whom he has evidence- So Cawthorn was saying someone has evidence-

That he has evidence of some people taking part of group sex. Not him, right? No, I think Cawthorn was saying something to the effect of to move up in this world or whatever, you have to take part in the drugs and the group sex. And then them being like, well, show us the evidence. And then Cawthorn being like, oh, I might have. I definitely. Okay. Yes.

He was invited. He claims he was invited to an orgy in Washington. Right. But no one was saying that he did it. I thought you were saying that he was wrapped up in it. So this is what killed him, that he was saying this about people and they killed his career? And they were like, the Freedom Caucus was like, uh-uh, no more. Really? Yeah. Because I remember his own rally took him out. His own party took him out. Go back to that, Jamie? Yeah.

It says the sexual perversion that goes on in Washington, being kind of a young guy in Washington, where the average age is probably 60 or 70. Look at these people. A lot of them I've looked up to through my life. I always paid attention to politics. Then all of a sudden you get invited. We're going to have a sexual get-together at one of our homes. You should come. What did you just ask me to come to? And then you realize they're asking you to come to an orgy. Some of the people leading on the movement,

to try and remove addiction in our country, and then you watch them do a key bump of cocaine right in front of you. And it's like, this is wild. And then it says, uh, what? This is CNN.com. CNN says, uh, what? What does it say after that? Leave it back up.

It's not clear to me whether Cawthorn is suggesting that members of Congress have invited him to orgies or just other people in Washington. Although after listening to his comments several times, it seems to be the former. Ditto his allegations of seeing people in Washington doing cocaine. Well, they sound like cocaine people. Clearly cocaine people. If you want to be the president, you want to have all the power and you want to have all the money and you're deeply involved in corruption, that's cocaine people. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I mean, no one's shocked. He just said the quiet part out loud. And I think that's a... But he was... Because he was supposed to be like the guy at one point. I remember. He was like supposed to be the guy. Have your husband ever made any investments based on decisions he... Oh, that's terrible. Is it cocaine, people? That was the first part of the problems he had. He had some other issues. What was the other issues? He got arrested for a gun. I think bringing a gun through an airport a couple times.

Oh, Jesus. Driving with revoked license. Oh, Jesus. Sexual misconduct allegations when he was in college. Isn't he in a wheelchair? I don't know exactly when the wheelchair happened, so it was either before or after. I was going to say. Oh, yeah, and then he took, like, goofy vacation photos where I think he, like, dressed, like, during this game on a cruise, he, like, dressed like a woman or something like that. Something like that. Yeah, but all of this popped up after his...

It's a lingerie. I don't know if it's just the orgy comment that led to everyone. He also clearly looks like he's in a wheelchair here, too. He is in a wheelchair there. Yeah. He's probably having a good time with the ladies. Yeah. Getting a little crazy. Yeah. But all that came up after he made those comments. And it was very clear at the time, like, oh, they're saying we're done with this guy. We're going to throw him to the wolves. Yeah. And they probably, if you want to be that guy, they have to have some stuff on you. Yeah.

Otherwise, how can they count on you to play this game? Right, right. And they were like, oh, you think we don't have anything on you. We'll just show you dressing like a woman and your constituents will dry up like that. You sound like a conspiracy theorist.

So silly. But boy, they did such a good job in the 60s after the Kennedy assassination of putting that word out there for fools and foolish people. They did such a great job. They really did. Well, also, they had a higher control of the media at the time, right? So you can if there's only three places where you can get your news, you can be like, well, anyone's outside of it.

It's kind of crazy. Now you can get your news from anyone and be like, oh, okay, there's something to this. Yeah, yeah. There's something to this. Do you remember those commercials that happened during – right after 9-11? There was these anti-drug commercials where a guy was saying that if you smoke pot, you're supporting terrorism. He's like, why do you say that? Well, it's a fact. He just says it like he's eating a salad, like a no-nonsense guy at a steakhouse eating a salad because it's a fact.

Like this condescending way. And you imagine yourself being confronted by such an accusation. Like, oh my God, if I smoke pot, I'm supporting terrorism. Right. You ever see that video? No. It was a public service announcement video. It was like one of those things that they... It was a propaganda video that they put on television. So while you're watching a television show, this was like right after like the height of everybody freaking out about terrorism. So they use this as an anti-marijuana. Drug money funds terrorism and terrorists. Like...

Scroll back so you can get from the beginning. It's a ploy. What? This drug money funds terror, it's a ploy. Ploy. A manipulation. Ploy. Drug money funds terror. I mean, why should I believe that? Because it's a fact. A fact. F-A-C-T fact. So you're saying that I should believe it because it's true. That's your argument. It is true.

Solid argument. I know, dude. Also, what kind of dumbass is that guy to be like, oh, maybe he's right after you said nothing. Well, that guy sounds like your average bro. Right. It's like at a bar, you know, this is what I heard. I heard the government's hiding the aliens. You know what I mean? That's like the average guy. Right. And then he's a guy with glasses, he's eating his salads, not tolerating your bullshit because it's a fact, F-A-C-T fact. Right. Oh, as long as you have all the data that you could show me. Oh, no data? No. You got no data? Just accept it.

Well, he's kind of right because if you do buy heroin, you are supporting the Taliban because we were guarding their poppy fields. Yeah, yeah. LOL. I think when we talked about this earlier –

I think the Taliban is like a way to get out of it. Like burned all their poppy fields. I think that, I think that, yeah, I think that's why they're trying to get more tourists to come. And he's like, there's a bunch of like bro travel, like TikToks. They're like, yeah, me and the bros are going to Afghanistan. And they're like chilling with the Taliban. It's like these white guys from Britain. Well,

Boy, you got to be a bold person to take that. That's an early adopter. But also, if you're from England, you're kind of already getting used to being around Muslim extremists. So I think it's more of a lateral move. I wish that something at least like –

I could be looking this... I could be wrong about this. But, like, I wish that was something that was a little more vocal and, like, sort of... I'm not, like, a very big Muslim guy. I'm not, like, really that practicing or that religious. But these sort of, like... The sort of... The brand of Islam that's coming to Europe right now is, like, really scary for me. Like, I don't want that. Like, that's not...

There's a lot of like Western Muslims that like probably wouldn't vibe with what's going on over there. And it's just this very interesting thing of like, how do we curb that in our community of being like, hey, we shouldn't accept this.

Like we shouldn't, I, you know, I remember when the Charlie Abdo attacks happened, a lot of people would be like, damn, that's what happens when you draw Muhammad or whatever. It's like, that shouldn't be our reaction to this. Right. It should be like live and let live. It's like, that's what I admire about the Christian's years that you can make fun of Jesus. No one's going to kill you. Right. Like that, that there's sort of like this sort of Westernization that kind of needs to happen. And it doesn't look like it's happening over there in a way that's kind of happening here. Look what's going on in Toronto where Ontario made it legal to have polygamy.

Right. Yeah. That's why. Right. It's like. Dudes want multiple wives. Come on. It's in the Quran. You know, it is. It is. Yeah, yeah. You could have multiple. You got to treat them all equally, which is what they totally do. It's a great way to keep people recruited. Mm.

You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, imagine if the Christians said, listen, we're open to new ideas. I think maybe the Mormons had a point. Because the Mormons, that's how they got it. Right. Right? That's the whole reason why they went to Mexico. It was because the United States said no to polygamy. Right. You know? That's the whole thing about, what's his face, from Massachusetts. Right.

That's right. Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney's dad was actually born in Mexico. Really? Yeah. Their family came from these giant colonies of Mormons that live in Mexico and duke it out with the cartels. Never seen that? No. Dude, there was a shootout. Mormons versus the cartels? Yes, man. Great movie title. There was a big problem a few years back because a few people, I think a woman and a child and a couple other people got murdered by the cartels.

And it became like a giant issue. So they set these compounds up in like the 1800s whenever –

The Mormons were not allowed to be polygamous here in America. So they just said, well, who cares back then? There was no cars. Mexico was just as good as living in America. Right. We'll go over there. Right. But then, you know, America fucking blossomed. Mexico kind of stayed, you know. And now you're like, hey, you got a cartel problem now. So they're armed. Damn. Are they still there? Yeah. Damn. Yeah. There's two. I think there's two large groups.

of Mormons that live in like these fenced off communities. It's like really kind of sketchy. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. They have compounds. Yeah. Well, the Mormons, I think because they're young too. They have to weigh safety, extra pussy. The extra pussy is worth a lot. I'll say this. I remember the first time I went to Salt Lake City in 2019 and we were walking around and we were near the Mormon temple and the most beautiful women came up to us and be like, oh, why don't you?

And I was like, that's how they get you, dude. Dude, Salt Lake City is like, it's just tens marrying twos. And they're like, that's how you get the Mormon guys. Oh, dude. In that split second, I was like, I'm willing to give up a lot right now. I remember this beautiful woman from Columbia. They got converted on a mission trip, and now they're here. And look at this exotic woman that's available to you if you're a Mormon. And you can marry one tomorrow. Wow.

You can marry one because they all get married young and quick because the whole point is to have babies So I've always told you Mormons know how to crew they can get you they throw the pussy your way They're also the nicest people Like I'm very rarely meet a mean Mormon. Well, it's like, you know with the Book of Mormon comes out and what do they do? Do they get mad? Do they fucking kill people? No, they stand outside and

and hand people pamphlets about Mormonism. This whole play talking about how Mormonism is totally bullshit. They're like, we might be able to get somebody. Yeah, they actually took out a full-page ad in the playbook. Right, exactly. That's a great way to deal with criticism of your religion. I think from my perspective on Islam, it needs to handle that better. It doesn't handle that well at all. I mean, I think Salman Rushdie was stabbed by a guy who was born and raised in New Jersey. That's crazy. Yeah.

That's crazy. He should be safe here. Right. Yeah. And also, I'm mad at the fatwa because it made me read that terrible book. Was it a bad book? It wasn't that good. I would have not have read it if there wasn't anything around it. Probably sold a lot more copies because of that. Probably made that dude rich as fuck. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Crazy. It's like one of those, like, I get it if you like artsy, like, you know, it's like a novel for writers almost. That's how I felt reading it.

Yeah, it's like I didn't like it, but I only read it because of everything around it. Did you see American Primeval? No. It's great, but it talks about Brigham Young and the Mormons establishing themselves in Utah.

And gangster shit, like murders. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you don't realize what a gangster Brigham Young was. You're like, holy shit, is this all accurate? And it's accurate. Peter Berg made it. It's really good. Yeah, I mean, imagine. It's a wild show, dude. Imagine leading a people against the American government and setting up your own place. You have to be a bad motherfucker to do that. And then the wildest ones went to Mexico. Yeah. Fuck it. We're going to flee the whole country. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, the Mormons really, really like they fought to survive. But it's what we were talking about earlier. It's like human beings have a bunch of different ways where they can adapt to whatever the group is doing. There's a bunch of where like, so we're really, really malleable.

You know, we're easily influenced. We can, you know, we adjust to whatever the environment is. We adapt, you know. And then if you're a Mormon woman, you're like, I guess I'm sharing this motherfucker with eight other ladies. Right.

It's what you do. You're out there washing sheets and shit. You can probably convince yourself you're happy about it. You're probably not like that. You're probably like, and we're doing this for God. This is what God wants. I remember. We all got our own planet. We were in a rest stop once. Ari and I were on a road doing stand-up, and we pulled into this place to get gas, and we were walking around this rest stop, one of them little supermarket things, and these ladies came in. I think they were Mennonites.

And R was like, what group are you in? What do you guys do? What's this all about? And they did not know how to talk to him. They look so awkward. Oh, yeah, because they're only allowed to talk to the one man in their life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty sure he was stoned.

Yeah, you definitely stoned. But it was really funny. I was like, well, what do you guys do? What's going on here? But I was like, wow, these people are living. I mean, this is we're dealing with like, you know, 2005 or some shit like that. You're dealing with these people that are there from another time. It's another time period. Like they're dressed like they they're literally like pioneers. They look like colonists. Like.

Like they have like old timey 1800s clothes on. You ever see like how Mennonites dress? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Weird. Yeah, yeah. We're at a gas station, you know, in front of the fucking Popeye's chicken. We're like, this is so weird.

And there's a group of them out there. It's like some fucking shack, some house, some compound. I believe this was – I think we were in Massachusetts when this happened or maybe New Hampshire. Because I know that out here – isn't the Mennonite population where the measles is in Texas? Like do you know how this is – I think it's the Mennonites. Is that it? Yeah. Yeah. That's like the overwhelming majority of the people like – because they run what the measles is like.

Rampant in Texas or they were running with that for a while and it's like it's basically in this one community from what I remember Yeah, interesting. It's just weird when they can get people to dress up, you know You know like when you like wild wild country where everybody's wearing the robes, but that's how you know who's bought in right? So it's like okay. These are these are the people that I can control. Yeah, put that rainbow t-shirt on your new group. Yeah, I

Hang your flag. Yeah, yeah. You got a show. Put the pronouns in the bio. Where's your Black Lives Matter sign? It's like human beings just want to become a part of a group, man. Yeah. It's like finding your community is like so huge. Huge. And it's like I think a big issue is when you find it online because then it becomes like this weird parasocial. And it's like you got to find your like –

Group like you're I mean, that's why I like the the good part about religion that I'd really like is like if it's done Right. It's like a loving community. It's like a yeah, like you know, I mean like it's people it's a support system It's like yes, very friendly. Yes, and it's warm environment. Everybody goes there with the same purpose Mm-hmm this Rebecca Lamont lady that was that I told you was a the expert in mind control one thing she talked about the dangers of eco chambers and

You get in these echo chambers online and, you know, everybody says the same thing, thinks the same thing. And then all of a sudden you're locked into this way of thinking. Right. It's online, like really dangerous where people just sort of have –

Everyone's sort of reinforcing all these ideas. You never get any outside information. Right. All only exists in this echo chamber. And then that's how you become your politics, become your personality. Yep. Your whole life. Yeah. And it's such a crazy thing. It's so new because I wasn't aware in 1996, but I will very confidently say people weren't like,

Either like Bob Dole you get the fuck out of my house. No, no big deal. Yeah, yeah When you know politics was on just on television and the newspapers Nobody gave a fuck who you supported. They didn't care Maybe they thought you were an idiot because you're gonna vote for that guy other guys a moron You're crazy, right? There was no like we couldn't talk at the dinner table. We couldn't you know, it became everything

every part of your identity to fight against this. We are fighting against fascism by using fascism. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're going to stop the election. We're going to remove people from social media. We're going to shut down these voices. And then we'll give you the candidate to vote for. Yes. To preserve democracy. Yeah. But it is like – because it's so annoying, like especially – I'm an Austin comic now and people will be like, oh, so you do – so you must be like an alt-right wing comic. Right.

Cuz it's like no I just do comedy like you know like there's a lot of there's a lot of stage time in the city and that's sort of the whole point of the whole exercise is to get up on stage and How many times do we like duke it out with Ron White in the green room? Most friendly hilarious way right right only and I are roasting them well You know what's funny is that ironically people online for whatever reason Ron White's face is used a lot to come up on conservative memes and

Well, because conservatives love him. I know, and it's so funny to me every time. Every time. You're like, wow, y'all really think Lorne Rice is like deep red conservative. That's crazy. It's so funny because you get to know him. He's the most liberal amongst us. Yeah, he's the most liberal guy in the green room. He's first and then Brian Simpson's two. Yeah. But Brian Simpson, it makes sense to me because, you know –

Used a lot of social services, you know had like a rough stretch as a child. That's me, too That's like not as bad as him but the same kind of reasoning for like social safety nets are important to keep people fed and

You know? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, that's super important, man. You know? People get people access to medicine. That's very important. Sometimes people are poor and sometimes people get sick when they're poor. And the fact that shit could bankrupt you for your whole life. I can break a leg. You're bankrupt for your whole life. That could bankrupt you if you're middle class. Fuck poor. Yes. Yes. The price of the price of medicine and like in this country is absolute insanity. Right. Yeah. And it

The fact that people don't agree on – or the fucking – the education thing that we bring up ad nauseum. The fact that that's the only loans you can never get out of with bankruptcy. That's crazy. Right. And you get them when you're 18? Are you out of your fucking mind? Like that's so predatory. Super predatory. Super predatory. Super predatory, yeah. Take a kid and give him a credit card with a 39 percent interest rate. Like what are you talking about?

And then you told him, like, if you go to college, like, it's going to be better for you on the other end. And it's like, that's not true at all. No, not true at all. Yeah, especially if you, like, got just a degree in, like, something that doesn't pay lucratively. I remember when I first started becoming successful as a comedian where I was actually making a living as a comedian. And I had friends that did the whole college thing and got jobs, and they were fucking miserable because we were both in our 20s. Mm-hmm.

And they were out there in the workforce just fucking tired all the time. And they were upset. They were upset that I didn't do that. And yet I'm making money. I'm traveling around. I'm having a good time, hanging out with my friends. I've got no one telling me what to do. Write my own material, book my own flights, no boss. Yeah. And you could see like, fuck. Yeah.

You weren't, this is not, you're supposed to be a loser. I was, I did the right thing. Dude, you ever, have you ever seen the Jim Carrey commencement speech or like graduation speech he gave at a college once? Dude, I saw this. So I started, I started comedy in my third year of college. So my fourth year, I'm like weighing out whether, what do I want to do with my life? Do I want to go into higher education, grad school, med school, whatever, or do I want to do this thing that I think I love? Um,

And my friend showed me the speech because he knew I was going to do this. And he was like, listen to this. As Jim Carrey talking about how you can fail at what's safe. That's true, too. Like the route you're supposed to take doesn't mean it's going to lead to success. So if you're going to fail anyway, might as well just fail at what you want to do because at least you will have done that. Yeah.

And then if you... Because if you fail at the Safeway, then you will always be like, fuck, I had this other thing I could have done. Yeah. And where could that have led me? Yeah. Yeah. And now, you know... So true. But, however...

The problem with that is like you've met open micers that are out of their fucking mind and they're not going. It's not going to happen. Right. No one wants to listen to you say anything ever. Right. You shut the fuck up. Like this ain't working. But that's why I saw that Jim Carrey speech and I knew I just had to stay on the path. You got any advice for me, Hasan? Well, that's the that's you can't get that. That's the Mitzi quote. It's a sin to encourage mediocre talent. You can't be like, no, keep going. You got the nicest way to be like, hey, there's other stuff.

Well, that's the weird one when people like that give – they want to ask advice. What do you think I should do? Like what? What I really think you should do or what do you want me to say? What do you want me to say? Yeah. Want me to give you the secret word? Abracadabra.

Yeah, oh, this is how you have talent. This is how you make it. This is how you write a joke. Yeah, this is what you gotta do. I'll hold your hand. Yeah. You know what really happens with some guys? You get a hot girlfriend that is a comic, and then you're a really good comic, and she's terrible, and so you start writing her act.

I've seen that happen a few times. What if it happens the other way? You get a really good female comic and she starts dating some guy who sucks. She goes, listen, if you're going to date me, let me help you with your fucking material. I don't know if female comics date down like that very often. They usually don't. Yeah, they usually don't. What is that called? Hypergamy? Yeah, because if you're a great female comic, the level of guy that's available to you is like- Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, yeah. It's like, yeah.

It's like, what are you doing with an open mic-er? Right, right. But if you're like a headliner who does theaters, you could totally have an open mic-er as a girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah, and that's totally like – As long as she's hot. Yeah, that's totally cool. Yeah, but if like – who's doing theaters right now? If Ali Wong or whatever started dating an open mic-er, you'd be like, yo, what happened? Right.

Something went wrong for her to date an open mic. When Whitney Cummings started dating an open mic, you're like, what are you doing crazy? Yeah. Show me what pills you're on. Yeah. You're going to take these away from me now, Whitney. Yeah. That would be an intervention. That would be a group of dudes being like, the fuck is wrong with it? No, no, no, no, no, no. This is Mike. He's a comedian too. What? Yeah. Mike is all sketchy and fucking weird, but he's built good. Yeah.

You know, he's got big, big bulges, pants. Yeah. Sits down like McCrone. No. Sits down like McCrone. Being a female comic is infinitely harder. Yeah. Because right away, people don't want to hear you talk about politics, don't want to hear your opinions on things. And, you know, you've got to, like, there's, like, Christina pulls it off, but, like, it's hard to be pretty on stage. Right. Right.

Right. Most of the time you have to hide your sex appeal. Right. I was talking to Kim Congdon about that. And she was like, I wear baggy clothes on stage. Sam Lopez, same thing. She wears baggy clothes on stage. I mean, she couldn't hide being pregnant. Well, they had their baby. They had their baby. Derek's a daddy. Isn't that amazing? That's so cool. Crazy. Crazy. He's going to light a fire under him. Guaranteed. He's going to work so much harder now.

He's going to be excited about it. And he'll have so much material too because it's just the whole experience of children. It's like mind blowing. Yeah. Well, I told him it's like crazy. Like out of all the things you've accomplished, you've finally done the thing you were supposed to do. Right. While you're put here on earth. But yeah. Yeah. You had a kid and that's like the most important thing. Like all the arenas that you've done. That's cool. But that's all good. But this is what it is. Yeah. I know. The arenas is just like a little dance that we do together. We're really procreating.

And then on top of that, we're making AI. And it's alive now. Right, right, right. So our job is almost done. Yeah, yeah. So you got in. Derek probably got in one of the last babies. Yeah, one of the last people that need to have a kid. It's kind of fucked, but listen, that's how the thing goes. You know, Australia Pythagoras didn't get to stay around. Right. Eventually it's going to come to an end. Sorry. You're not good enough. You can't even code anything.

Right. You fucking dumbass with your stone tools. Shut the fuck up. We have planes now. We can't have you anymore. Yeah. And you know, Australopithecus is like, bro, your days are numbered. There's a Homo sapien coming. Right. Smart, does calculus. Not even Homo sapien. There was like other stuff before. Even before, like a Homo sapien to an Australopithecus is like, it's like an alien. Right, right.

Yeah, it's crazy. We're the same species kind of It's also nuts that we would think that it would end with us. Yeah, but we're the perfect we got it. It's done. It's done No, this is we're terrible. We have nuclear bombs. We're in the middle of fucking 30 wars right now. What are you talking about? We're awful, right? We're full of shit We got the fucking all this congressional bullshit that we were just talking about with the insider trading all the lies

all the different things that have gotten us in these different wars. Why would you want to stay this? Well, it's the devil you know versus the devil you don't. This is like, we can handle this. Yeah. Well, it's not us. Well, yeah, yeah. We are not going to be around. There's going to be a new thing. Just like dinosaurs don't exist anymore. There's going to be a new thing. Yeah. Oh, it's going to be cool. Eventually, these Waymos are going to start slowly taking people out. Yeah.

These animals are slowly going to start taking people out. All you have to do is just keep the door shut forever until you starve to death. Yeah. And they consume you. Do you ever see that DARPA robot that they built? They built a DARPA robot called the Eater Robot. E-A-T-R. I forget what it stands for. But it's fueled by biological material. Dude. Yeah.

Dude, sometimes I feel like scientists don't watch any movies. Or they watch them all. Or they watch them all and like, I want to do that. They're like, what do we do? What are we doing here? We're making fucking weapons. All right. What's the best way to fuel these things? Is it solar? Should we get out there and fill their tank up with gas or let them eat bodies?

And I think it was any kind of biological material. So it could be plants. It could be just plants. It could just be plants. It could be just ground squirrels. Maybe they just eat ground squirrels. Yeah. Maybe they just eat fucking dead bodies on the battlefield. And just keep going. Right. If you're a robot, an autonomous robot that exists on biological materials and you also kill people.

You got plenty of fuel. Right. You just eat a couple of those people. You keep going. Can you imagine if they really designed artificially intelligent robots that kill people and eat them? Because that's the way to really do, if you want to do battle efficiently, well, what fuel would be the most efficient fuel to use? Well, what is the fuel that you're making with your task? Well, that fuel would be bodies. Well, when you run out of bodies, isn't your task done? Yeah. So then you just shut off.

Because you're out of fuel. So you run out of gas when you've eaten everybody on Earth. It's the perfect design. It's that perfect killing machine. If you wanted to extinguish human life on Earth, that's what you'd do. You'd have autonomous...

artificial intelligence that absolutely knows where everyone is at any given time because everybody has a digital signature and everyone's connected to devices and all you do is kill and eat people and just send them loose and they would be indestructible and they would find you in buildings they would fucking go upstairs to your apartment find you and eat you and when they're done eating everybody on the planet they just shut off because they don't have any more fuel damn

Bro. Damn. That's all you have to do. Damn. Program a robot that eats people. Damn. How much time do you think we have left? I don't think we have 100 years. You don't think we have 100 years? No, I don't think so. I don't think we have 100 years either. Unless this is the other possibility. The AI just leaves? No, I'm totally talking on my ass. There's a couple options. One of the big options is we integrate.

So instead of letting it eat us, what we do is become one with it. So instead of just being a territorial ape with thermonuclear weapons and a concealed carry permit, instead of being that, what we are is connected through Neuralink or something like that or the next 30 versions of it from now. But just think about how quick cell phones changed everything and everything

How much they've advanced since, what was the iPhone, 2007? I was in eighth grade, so that was 2006. 2006. Yeah. Okay. So that's not that long ago. No. That's 20 years. 20 years. In 20 years, it's gone from being this little, shitty, clunky thing with a bad camera. Right. It didn't even have a camera at first, did it? Did it? I don't think it had a camera at first. Was the first iPhone to have a camera? No.

I think it did. I think it did. I think it wasn't on the internet, though. What? That was part of the deal. Yeah, but it wasn't on the internet, right? What do you mean? You couldn't get on the internet with it, right? Yeah, YouTube was one of the first apps built into it. That's why it kind of grew so far. But could you get online and read a website on it, the first one? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Okay, but the internet was super slow.

Right. What was the Gs back then? How many Gs was it? I mean, it should have been the first G. I mean, like the second or third iPhone was the iPhone 3G, and that was like the big trouble. Right. That's right. So the 3G one was the first one where it actually became feasible that you would use it as a web browser. Right. Now it's instantaneous, right? So now instead of taking forever to download a song or a movie, now with the bandwidth speeds you have, you get a new phone, a new Android phone or a new iPhone device.

You're getting instantaneous everything. It's shocking how good it is. The new, all these new Samsung phones, like the Galaxy that Brian Simpson uses, that has this Google Gemini assistant, he talked to it the other day. And he said, you know, send me this, that, that, put it on my calendar, whatever.

And then text it to a friend of mine, and it just said okay, and it just did it it did all those things What application would you like me to use Google tasks? It just does this for him and it all automates just from a prompt so he talks his phone his phones like his assistant Tell me you know set that shit on my calendar put it in my schedule Send me a text message when it's come time put an alert so I know when it's coming up, okay It just does it all

That's wild. For 20 years. I've never used Siri. I use Siri all the time, and then Siri doesn't know what the fuck is going on. So Siri's always like, would you like to use ChatGPT? I'm like, bitch, why am I asking you questions? If you've got to keep going to ChatGPT, should I replace you? Because Gemini seems to have the answers. Gemini's way better than Siri.

It's way better. Well, because it feels like, and I know nothing about how AI works, but it feels like, because Siri was already there, it's like trying to implement AI to an interface that's kind of old. The Google interface with AI...

and the phones and all the Google ecosystem is way better. It's just, it's way more effective. It's quicker. It gets it. It'll, it'll follow a chain of questions. Like you can ask another question. How should I do that? What should I do with it? And it follows what you're saying. Okay. It's just a better design and it's integrated.

So Siri has to ask ChatGPT, would you like to use ChatGPT? Bitch, what do you think? If you don't have the answer, go to ChatGPT, get me the fucking answer. Whereas Google cuts that step out. It gives you the answer immediately. It's just better at it. Integrates with Gmail. It's just a better system.

But they're working on it. It's like all these things are getting better. All the AI is getting better. They're so much better. I mean, just the video we watched. The AI capabilities six months ago. That video? Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. And now you see it online on Reddit or Facebook. You'll see it where people are like, oh, you've fallen for this AI thing.

And it took me a second to realize, like, oh, it's AI. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of those. I posted one of a butterfly. No, a mantis. Like, some crazy mantis that looked like a lotus flower. I was like, oh, that looks dope. And, like, somebody posted it on Instagram, so I just put it in my stories just because I thought it looked dope. Right. Even if it's fake, it's still dope. And then someone said, hey, but why does he have five fingers and a thumb? I was like, does he? Was it you, Jamie? Did you notice it? Yeah, Jamie noticed it. That's so funny. Jamie's always like...

ahead of the curve with that shit though because he's super skeptical and he does too much research into conspiracies. Yeah. Well, you have to be. You have to be super skeptical about anything you see now. He goes, all roads lead to Ohio. Everybody is sending me bullshit all day. I have to fucking look through it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, talk about this on the show and it's just some guy with three heads or whatever. Well, there's a lot of people that believe things and the thing is like,

A lot of the stuff that you're fed that's fake, you're fed by people who want you to repeat it because they're trying to muddy the waters of reality. Right. Which is a great strategy. Well, if you say it enough, it can be real. There's a certain truth to it, right? There's that. But there's also say something that is real and attach a bunch of really goofy shit to it so that it's not real anymore. Mm.

So it would make you be like, well, if everything else around it is fake, this has to be fake. Right. You know, you connect it to a Nazi apologist or something. Right, right. Oh, this is nonsense. Or like the UA – all this UFO stuff. Like there's so much of that stuff that seems like so hokey you don't even want to repeat it. But yet it's connected to things like gravity propulsion drives, which were theorized about in the 1950s. And there's research was done on them. And it seems like maybe some groundbreaking advancements were –

Kind of concealed from the public. But then it's like, I was abducted and they took all of my sperm. You know what I mean? It's like all these people that are connected to it that are goofy, you wonder how much of that goofy shit is on purpose to make the whole thing seem stupid because what they're really trying to do is obscure something.

Okay. I see what you're saying. You know what I mean? So it's a bit hiding it in plain sight. Right. Just like, we never hid it from you. You just thought it wasn't real because this guy was talking about getting jerked off by aliens. Just connect it to Scientology or something.

Whatever just throw some nonsense that way flat earth Whatever, you know just find some reason why it's kooky put connect it to like some fucking person channels You know, I mean right make it stupid right? So God stupid. That's a bunch of stupid shit Connected to Scientology right connect to something that you don't want to talk about, you know Bigfoot Oh

You know what I mean? It's like those kind of strategies for taking real information and muddying it up with a bunch of nutty shit and then send the Patriot Front to go fucking protest for it. Oh, right, right. Are those the feds? That's what people say. And then there's like a thing online now. The Patriot Front was all feds. How come they're back?

Like, all of a sudden, they reemerged. They took a hiatus. Right. And they're back with season three. These guys, they still wear the bandanas. They're still marching down the street covering their face. They still wear uniforms. Like, see? They're not even feds. There's no way they could be feds. I mean, that's over.

Right, right, right, right. There's no way. It's not like Kash Patel and Dan Bongino completely did a 180 as soon as they got into office. I mean, it's like, this is a different federal government now. Right. Yeah, yeah. This is, now it's truth. Truth social. I feel like, yeah, I think the things that people forget is that they definitely play both sides. Yeah.

Yeah. Like I think because they were heavily involved in January 6th and I think they were heavily involved in those BLM riots. It's like, oh, my God, the feds just they want chaos for whatever reason. For more control, I guess. They want that and they want us at each other's throats. Right. Right. They want people. They want the MAGA people fighting with the liberals. They want that. They want that. And they fuel it. I see a lot of those pro MAGA posts everywhere.

You know, like MAGA Mom 2000 and like a preeling. You know what I mean? It's like how many of these people are real people and they say ridiculous shit. That's like I hope you're not a real person. I hope your identity isn't MAGA first, mom second. Yeah. I really hope you're not a real person. It's just I think, you know.

Whatever the number is whether it's 50% like it's so hard to know what's real and what's not I think the best strategy for me at least the best strategy is just tune the fuck out Yeah, yeah, that's why I like YouTube. Yeah, that's I go on YouTube. I'm watching stuff about like fucking ancient civilizations Car videos. I'm watching a guy do puzzles like this is like watching guys cook

I love – I think it's called Bon Appetit. I forget what it is. I was watching – I've been watching a bunch of videos on various restaurants, like how they set up. I love it, man. I don't know why. I love watching people do something that they're really passionate about. And when you watch a video about like a really great restaurant where they're talking about how they picked the beef and –

That's who was it was you know that guy Guga foods. No, no Amazing YouTube channel. He's like this steak guy. It's like he's obsessed with steak and cooking different kinds of steak He went to osabuco in Miami, which is like one of the supposedly one of the best restaurants in the country I haven't been but this place osabuco in Miami They they I think they were talking about how they had a two-year dry aged steak

dry aged it for two years or they didn't cut that one they made another one for him but you're watching this chef

And he's got this like crazy live hardwood fire grill set up. And he's talking about all the cooking at these different temperatures. And he's got the peppers over here and he's cooking pineapples over fire over here. He's going to splice that up and put it in this. It's so exciting. And he's so passionate about ways making the meat and how they're using this like herb brush to put butter all over it. You're like, oh my.

oh my God, it looks so good. It looks so good. And it's like, I'm not getting angry. I'm not getting angry. I am, that's it. This is the guy. So this is, I found the greatest restaurant on earth. It says, I'm speechless. So that disgusting rotten mummy dick is, that's a two year dry age steak. But what that is, is the mold from that helps to dry age all the other beef.

So he calls it like the mother. That's why he's not cutting into it yet. See, it's right there. He calls it the mother.

And so then, so this guy takes him like a regular, like a two month dry age. Oh, 22 days. Right. So it's like, there used to be a place called APL that was in LA and they went under during the pandemic. But Adam Perry Lang was the chef and he was really into dry aging. And he had some year, one year dry aged meat and he served it to us. And we're like, whoa, this is wild. Right. It's a weird taste, man, because it's essentially like being eaten raw.

parasites. It's like, you know, mold is eating it. Should go back to those videos of that guy just cooking the steak that you just had up. Look how fucking good this looks. Oh my God. When the guy was cooking the steak though, like, look at this. And they're making osabuco. So go before that and you'll see the steak. So he's throwing the, so he's got the fires out. This is osabuco. So he's pulling it off the bone. Go back a little earlier though when you watch him cook it. Because this is what I like is watching it when it hits the grill.

There's nothing like steak cooking over live wood, like hardwood, like burning hardwood. And this guy is just a master at it. And then he takes it out and he slices it up and puts herb butter all over it. You're like, oh!

And this, see me? I'm not mad. No. No one's outraged. I'm not getting politically involved. I'm just enjoying watching someone cook delicious food. Watching someone do something they love is always great. I follow this one guy in Britain. His name is Francis. I forgot the name of the channel, but watch him slice it. Make him slice it. This guy named Francis. Look at that. Oh, that's nice. Look at that. Look at it all. The genuine happiness. Yeah. Look at his face. That's a real, you can't fake that kind of smile. And then he's going to slice it up.

So good, dude. So I watch this guy on Instagram. His name is Francis. He lives in England. He loves trains. Trains? Trains. And every time he sees a train, he gets super happy, and he tells you everything about the train, like its route and its history. And you get excited. I love how much he's into it. Yeah. I love it. It makes me happy every time he's on my, yes, this guy. Dude, this guy rules. Yeah.

Fred, dude, this guy fucking rules, dog. Wow. Let me hear him, let me hear him. Oh my god, it's a 59.

Okay, stop right here. Stop right here. Imagine how quickly one of those Colombian Mormons could get him. You know what's funny? He showed his girlfriend before. She's a dime, dude. Damn, of course she is. Maybe she's into trains, too. That's the key. Maybe. But he's a guy who's good at what he does, is passionate about it, and is happy with it. That's attractive to women. Oh.

Oh, yeah. People love when people are really into something. But look, every video, just a massive smile, just a train. It's like a little hit of happiness, this guy. Yeah. Look at him. Yeah, man. Whatever it is, whether it's automobiles, whatever it is. I love watching auto reviews, even cars that I'm never going to buy. Right. I like watching. Like, what do you think about that car? Right. Yeah. They go over the way the mechanics work and how it's designed and everything.

Yeah. When people are into, whether it's making furniture. It's just this, whatever you're creating is. Yeah. If it's, even if it's just train watching. Yeah. If you're into it, it's like, it's like awesome for other people. Super contagious. This guy, this month, he went pretty viral. He quit his job.

cashed in his 401k, took his cat, got a sailboat, went to Hawaii. Whoa. Just got there yesterday. Whoa. He went from like, you know, 10,000 people following to 1.6 million. Whoa. Sailing underscore with underscore Phoenix on Instagram. Just doing like daily updates of like, yep, this is me. Here's my cat. Here's my boat. Today's suck. Oh.

Yeah, we like because everybody has that dream right yeah, just check out a society man live on a mountain that's mine They just film it all what's his Instagram again? Sailing with Phoenix. Thank you. That's the cat his name's Oliver. Oh

Sailing with Phoenix. Came up right away on Instagram or on YouTube, brother. Bam, subscribed. Damn, that's nice. You know what I find interesting with the social media and now with what I talked about earlier with the streaming, the live streaming people do, is you remember, oh my God, that Jim Carrey movie, Truman Show. Yes. Where it was like, oh my God, look at this guy. He's been tricked and we're watching everything he's doing.

And now fast forward like 30 years and like people are actively trying to become Truman. Yeah. It's like a very, like I wonder if the guy who wrote that movie thought of that as a possibility. Do you remember the McConaughey one? There was a McConaughey film. Ed TV. Ed TV. Same thing. Following a guy around his whole life. And eventually he's like, at the end he's like, I can't do this anymore. Right. I'm going to be normal. Was it a choice that he made or was it put upon him in that movie? I don't remember. Did he win something?

Did he win a contest or something? It made me think of someone that did just do this. This guy called the Outdoor Boys Channel. Oh, yeah. I watched that guy. He quit. He quit. Too much to my family. Can't take it. He's really cool. I liked his shows. He would go places and camp and cook his own food and shit. There's a bunch of those guys that I follow. I followed this one guy last night. He was in... It was like...

10 degrees below zero. He's testing out the world's warmest sleeping bag. So he's got like a fire. He treks out there by himself on snowshoes with a fucking sled behind him filled with his stuff. Damn. But it's interesting, man. It's fascinating. People just want to... People are so... We'll watch people live life.

Watch someone do something purposeful. Like when you're out in the woods and you make your own fire and you have the warmest sleeping bag, you have to have that to stay alive. Right. And that's why it's exciting to us because everything else has no consequences. Our day is just like, should I stay awake and keep watching YouTube or should I go to bed? I should probably go to bed now. I'll give myself one more hour. One more hour of watching bullshit.

Wasting your time. Yeah. And this guy's out there in the woods. Doing something. Ten below zero. In this sleeping bag. All I can see out of it is like, because everything is bundled up in there. Fucking freezing.

Stoke the fire stay warm stay alive that stuff gives me anxiety I can't watch that me too, but it's also exciting like you know you want to watch him do it and that outdoor boys guy was one of those guys mm-hmm and you know I think Just got too popular. Yeah. I mean it was front page news that he quit a youtuber quit. It was a new back He's cool though. He seems like a real sweet guy like a real nice guy like everything about his show, and it's it's interesting I

Well, yeah, it's like a lot of these people, these are people you want to root for. Yeah. The sailboat guy, the train guy, him. It's like, I want these people to succeed. Also, this is like low production value, doing it on his own, self-filming. Yeah. It's exciting. Yeah. Just probably have to pay an editor and that's about it.

He might edit it himself. Oh, yeah. It's not hard to do today. No. You know, you can kind of figure it out if you want to really cut down the amount of people working with you. You know, you could probably figure out how to do that stuff. Oh, you could just watch a YouTube video. Yeah. Yeah, you could just watch a YouTube. Just at the time, you could edit it all yourself. And then, you know, you're kind of your own production. And then just by word of mouth, this guy got big because it's kind of fun to watch. Right. Right.

And like pretty intense, the stuff he does sometimes. Yeah, he gets out there in the woods, bro. Yeah, I saw this one video of him where he like, oh, thank God I found this cabin. Otherwise, I would have been fucked. Yeah. Imagine if that's your dad, though, and you have to watch when you're a little kid. Like, we almost lost dad. Yeah. Dad, how close were you? No, I was exaggerating for the show. I knew where I was.

Yeah, it must be weird having a famous parent. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, how do your kids deal? They handle it pretty well because they've always had a famous parent. You didn't become famous while it was... Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be even weirder. Right. That's the weirdest. For them, that's like what's normal. Right, if they always grew up in it, it's like it's whatever. Yeah. It's a problem. You know what else is a problem? I've got to pee so bad. Okay.

Let's wrap this up. Okay three hours dude flew by hell. Yeah crazy Tell everybody your Instagram and bro. First of all, I'm super excited watch you do stand up. You've been fucking killing it Thank you really fun. It's fun to watch It's fun to watch you write and you know, you're just wonder what I mean I've known you for so long now because I knew you at the Comedy Store to see you from there to where you are now It's super inspiring

Thank you. Thank you. I'm glad and I thank you too for the opportunity for a place where I could work as hard as I'm able to work. It's like... You're making the most of it. Me and Tony were talking about it last night. You are literally making the most of it. All these young guys coming up. I used to have... There used to be this... I love the Niners. And Steve Young is talking about his...

Super Bowl winning performances like I was given this opportunity to show how great I could be so let me show how great I could be it's like oh if you're giving me this opportunity to like get up all the time yeah let me write let me be let me be helpful to other young comics let me just be a part of this process work it works see it work it works yeah so yeah I mean hopefully you can follow me at a Sanjay Ahmad eh Sanjay HMID I have a podcast with my friend Derek and

Who's the recent dad? Yeah, recent dad called The Solid Show. I think our chemistry on there is phenomenal. Oh, it's phenomenal. Derek is the best. He's so lovable. He's maybe the most likable guy that's ever lived. He might be. He's like a cartoon character almost. If you don't like Derek, how the fuck are we going to have a conversation? Everybody loves that guy. Yeah. Oh, my God. And then that's my podcast. So, yeah, just follow me on there. And then I think this year, especially these last few sets I've been having, it's like, oh, I've got to film something.

Beautiful. I want to, yeah, I want to, I got to find a way to do it, but I think I'll film this better. Well, we'll figure that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got 30 minutes. Let's wrap this up. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye. Bye.