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#121 Walter Isaacson: Curiosity Fuels Creativity

2021/10/5
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Walter Isaacson: 本期节目探讨了好奇心与创造力的关系,以及历史上一些伟大创新者(如达芬奇、富兰克林、乔布斯、杜德纳)是如何通过好奇心驱动创造力,从而改变世界的。他认为,好奇心是与生俱来的,成年人应该培养孩子的好奇心,而不是扼杀它。在研究这些人物的过程中,他发现他们都具有对细节的极致追求,并能够在艺术和科学之间建立联系。他认为,创造力来自于自发的会议、随机的讨论以及面对面的互动。他还强调,构建优秀的团队需要多种领导才能,既需要直接坦诚,也需要团结协作。 在谈到史蒂夫·乔布斯时,他指出乔布斯成功的关键在于专注于创造真正优秀的产品,而不是仅仅追求利润。乔布斯对细节的极致追求,即使是那些别人看不到的部分,也体现了他对完美的追求,这既成就了他,也可能在某种程度上限制了他。乔布斯能够保持谦逊,并非被物质所定义,这源于他的精神追求。 在谈到达芬奇时,他指出达芬奇的成就并非源于超凡的智力,而是源于他强烈的好奇心和对知识的持续探索。达芬奇试图理解所有可以理解的事物,这成为他创造力的关键。达芬奇的完美主义有时会妨碍作品的完成,他更注重创作构思而非最终完成品,很多作品都未完成。 在谈到艾达·洛夫莱斯时,他指出艾达·洛夫莱斯是第一个理解通用计算机能力的人,并编写了第一个算法。艾达·洛夫莱斯虽然生活坎坷,但她对计算机科学的贡献是巨大的。 在谈到CRISPR基因编辑技术时,他指出CRISPR技术既有巨大的潜力,也存在潜在的风险,需要谨慎使用。CRISPR技术的应用需要全社会的参与和讨论,不能仅仅由科学家决定。CRISPR技术易于获取,这增加了其滥用的风险,需要制定相应的社会规则。CRISPR技术的研发过程中存在竞争,这既促进了技术发展,也带来了一些负面影响。关于CRISPR技术的伦理问题,没有明确的答案,需要持续思考和讨论。 Shane Parrish: 作为节目的主持人,Shane Parrish 主要负责引导访谈,提出问题,并与 Walter Isaacson 进行互动,探讨各个主题。他并没有提出自己明确的观点,而是通过提问来引导 Isaacson 展开论述,并对 Isaacson 的观点进行回应和补充。

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Walter Isaacson discusses how curiosity has fueled creativity among innovators like Steve Jobs, Leonardo da Vinci, and Jennifer Doudna, exploring their diverse interests and how they shaped the world.

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What do Steve Jobs, Leonardo da Vinci, Benjamin Franklin and Jennifer Doudna all have in common? Celebrated journalist and author Walter Isaacson calls upon his years of research to explain how curiosity has always fueled creativity among history’s greatest innovators, and how each of those individuals shaped the world around them. On this episode Issacson dives deep into the curious obsessions of Jobs, da Vinci’s ability to develop a brilliant mind, Ada Lovelace and how she developed the algorithm, and how Doudna’s work with gene editing could shape the future to come.

 

A journalist by trade, Issacson served as the editor of Time and then chairman and CEO of CNN before eventually spending 15 years as president and CEO of the Aspen Institute, the international research institute and think tank. Isaacson has also written bestselling biographies on Jobs, da Vinci, Franklin and Albert Einstein, and in 2021 released his latest biography, The Code Breaker: Jennifer Doudna, Gene Editing, and the Future of the Human Race.

 

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