We're sunsetting PodQuest on 2025-07-28. Thank you for your support!
Export Podcast Subscriptions
cover of episode #221 Bruce Flatt on Value, Discipline, and Durability

#221 Bruce Flatt on Value, Discipline, and Durability

2025/4/1
logo of podcast The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

AI Deep Dive AI Chapters Transcript
People
B
Bruce Flatt
Topics
Bruce Flatt: 我认为投资的基本面没有改变,仍然是购买优秀的企业,长期持有,获得现金回报。改变的是投资环境,全球经济的底层架构正在发生变化,例如数字化、低碳能源转型和产业再工业化。我们关注的是长期价值,而不是短期波动。我们谨慎地使用债务,并确保资产能够承受市场波动。我们专注于下行风险保护,并利用市场波动带来的机会。我们拥有充足的资本,可以进行大规模投资,并获得长期回报。我们致力于建立一个以绩效为导向的企业文化,培养年轻人才,并进行持续学习和改进。我们通过多元化的业务结构,在不同市场和领域中寻找机会,并根据市场变化调整策略。我们重视与监管机构和贷款人的良好关系,确保业务的健康发展。 Shane Parish: (访谈引导,提出问题,并对Bruce Flatt的回答进行总结和进一步探讨)

Deep Dive

Chapters
The core tenets of investing remain unchanged—identifying and holding valuable assets for long-term returns. However, the investment landscape has evolved significantly, with the rise of passive investing and the emergence of entirely new asset classes, such as the digital infrastructure that underpins modern technology.
  • Fundamentals of investing remain unchanged: buying great businesses, holding them long-term, earning cash returns.
  • The environment around investing has changed drastically.
  • 50% of current investments did not exist 20 years ago.
  • Private enterprise now builds much of the global economic backbone (data centers, telecom towers, etc.)
  • Passive investing has created opportunities in undervalued, non-indexed companies.

Shownotes Transcript

Brookfield CEO Bruce Flatt reveals the investment philosophy behind building one of the world's largest alternative asset managers with over a trillion dollars under management. 

At the core of Brookfield's strategy is a disciplined focus on downside protection that has delivered 19% annualized returns over 30 years. Flatt identifies three major trends driving their investments: digitalization (including AI infrastructure), global energy transition, and reindustrialization as supply chains shift. The conversation explores Brookfield's approach to risk management, their expansion into insurance, and their meritocratic culture. When Shane presses for clarity on Brookfield's complex corporate structure, Flatt provides rare insights into how the organization's design creates both operational flexibility and investment opportunities. 

What separates Brookfield from competitors? Patient capital: the discipline to wait for extraordinary opportunities and the financial strength to act when others can't. 

If you want to understand how the smartest capital allocators think and what it takes to build something enduring, this episode is essential listening. 

Thanks to these sponsors for supporting our show: 

NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ nordvpn.com/KNOWLEDGEPROJECT). Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee 

Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/shane). All lowercase.

**ShipStation: **Get a 60-day free trial at www.shipstation.com/knowledgeproject).

*The opinions shared on this podcast belong solely to those expressing them. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the securities discussed. This podcast is intended to provide general information only and should not be considered financial advice. *

(00:02:56) Changes in Investing Over the Past 25 Years

(00:04:51) How Private Enterprise Has Built Our Tech Infrastructure

(00:07:08) Implications and Opportunities of Passive Investing

(00:09:08) Advantages of Private Companies

(00:12:36) Three Investment Themes

(00:15:11) Winners in Digitalization

(00:16:45) Application of Artificial Intelligence in Businesses

(00:21:44) Transition to Low-Carbon Energy

(00:25:24) Future of Data Centers

(00:27:32) De-globalization of Industry

(00:29:59) Implications of Manufacturing Repatriation

(00:31:11) Long-term Prospects for America

(00:36:20) Approach to Risk and Debt

(00:37:48) Impact of Interest Rates

(00:40:47) Managing Market Dislocations

(00:42:30) Long-term Investing Strategy

(00:45:06) History and Future of Brookfield

(00:47:55) Exploration of Private Markets and Insurance

(00:48:48) Investment Decision Process

(00:55:18) Understanding Brookfield's Structure

(00:59:40) Positioning of Brookfield's Businesses

(01:00:21) Talent and People Management at Brookfield

(01:02:58) Focus on Downside Protection

(01:05:03) Accountability in Investment Decisions

(01:06:32) Understanding Investment Cycles

(01:08:14) Learning and Training in the Organization

(01:09:06) Postmortem Analysis of Investments

(01:11:14) Consideration of Geopolitical Risks

Newsletter - The Brain Food newsletter delivers actionable insights and thoughtful ideas every Sunday. It takes 5 minutes to read, and it’s completely free. Learn more and sign up at fs.blog/newsletter)

Upgrade — If you want to hear my thoughts and reflections at the end of the episode, join our membership: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fs.blog/membership)⁠⁠ and get your own private feed.

Watch on YouTube: @tkppodcast)

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices)