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When I first told Kinsey I loved her, I didn't mean it. That is so not true. No, I'm actually serious. It's true. Uh-oh. That shouldn't have been said on a podcast. And one day, when he's at VidCon in 2018, with whoever the heck he was with, he decides he's going to stop texting me, and he didn't text me on my birthday. Let me tell you something about that little story you told me. What? Do you remember what happened right before that? What?
You don't remember when you dropped me and started talking to the other guy? What's up, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the podcast. The LOL Podcast.
No, I don't I don't have makeup on okay wait does he make You know what you're bad You're actually trash at doing makeup you have makeup. Yeah I've seen tired of it recently on three different shoots. I have put I mean I mean sorry Kate has put I mean the tiniest
I wouldn't even call it makeup, really. I can tell. And I know there's makeup right there. And every time I look right at Harper, as soon as she looks at me, she goes, you have makeup on, don't you? And she makes me feel very insecure about myself. It's because it's on acne. And when you have makeup over acne, it's obvious. Okay. Yeah. I like to clarify. I don't wear makeup. Okay. No, it's not obvious because I remember yesterday.
remember yesterday there was a big bright red pimple right there and now it's all gone. Yeah, I have like a giant red pimple right here right now. So I was like, Kate, can you just like make this not red? So you're wearing makeup. No, so she's like self-tanned to that pimple. No. Is what I like to call it. It's no problem for you to wear makeup, man. It is a problem actually because I don't. I don't do it. No, you are. And I wear tanner on my redness.
Right. That is all I do. It's like you wear makeup. That is all I do. But man, somehow. You wear makeup. I've done it like two or three times. I did it on the music video shoot too. I was like, the music video shoot, I had like two giant pimples. I was like, hey, Kate, can you cover this up for the video? I walk in, Harper goes, do you have makeup on right now? I was like, how do you notice every time?
I noticed everything. I genuinely don't understand. I was going to do it, too, when we were at the music video shoot. He was like, can you cover this up? And I was like, yeah. So I grabbed my makeup bag. Oh, sorry. My covering pimple bag. Thank you. Is that mine? No, that's mine. Yours is in your lap. Wait, what were you going to do to me? Oh, anyways, you were like, oh, yeah. I was like, oh, yeah. And I was about to do it in the room with everyone. And you were like, no, no, no. And he made me go do it in the bathroom. Okay, no, no, no. Wow. You were that embarrassed? No, no.
No, no, I didn't make her do it in the bathroom because of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was good lighting in the bathroom. Uh-huh. And I had to make her do it in the bathroom. No, we have the lights in. Actually, the lighting in the bathroom was trash. Well, no, because the bathroom. Oh, it was trash. I assumed the bathroom and the lighting would be good. I assumed. Yeah, sure. I've never been to that bathroom before. And it was the other bathroom. It was the guest bathroom, not that one bathroom. And I was like, Kate normally does my makeup bad. No offense. Not my makeup. She normally covers my. She does it often. No. I'm kidding.
And I'm talking, I do this like three times a year for like a video or something or like a photo shoot. And I cover like a tiny pimple that I may or may not have at the time. Why are you so embarrassed? Because, listen. That's crazy. Okay, I didn't hide in the bathroom. I thought there'd be good lighting because normally when she does it, I'm like, Kate, this doesn't look natural at all. And so I was like, she needs good lighting in the bathroom so she doesn't make me look stupid. That's crazy. Yeah. Because every time I'm like, does that look good to you? And you're like, yeah, it looks great. I say, I don't know. You're the one that does it.
Apparently it doesn't because she notices it every time. No, it's just obvious when someone's wearing makeup. Okay. Who are you trying to look good for, man? You know what? Maverick used to wear makeup every day. Not every day. That's right. I used to wear it when I was like 17 and 18 when we were at Belmont. You were the born to dream concealer. And you were wearing the same concealer. Maverick bought concealer from Walmart. That's embarrassing. Born this way concealer. You did not buy it from
And you bought the same exact concealer. What do you mean he didn't buy it from Walmart? Born this way, it's not Walmart. It's the two-faced one. And when I first started dating him, I saw it sitting on the bathroom counter. Oh, there it is. Wow. You still had it that recently? No, I don't still wear it. I just keep it. For emergencies. But the thing is, you have a makeup emergency bag. I mean, that's even more embarrassing. I'm not embarrassed by it. This is my makeup emergency makeup. I don't really break out anymore. But if I was to have like a big pimple pop up, I would put it on. You would do your emergency makeup kit. I would.
I would put it on. I'm going to be on camera. Of course I'd put it on. Yeah. Oh. Wait, what? That's bad. I would have automatically assumed he had another girl. Yeah. But she just assumed it was Mads. Actually, that thought did run through my mind because I also found some other things in his bathroom. Oh, what other girly things are Matt using in his bathroom? Uh-oh. There was like this vanilla perfume thing. What the? And then there was also some Starbucks cards. And I was like, what the? What the?
was like but it wasn't in his bathroom and i was like what is all of this he was like oh that was kate's christmas gift and i was like it's march and he was like oh yeah i didn't give her a christmas gift this year i'm like but it's right here well i bought the gift i just never gave it to you i just
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Booking. Yeah. You bought a Christmas gift for me? I remember that now. Yeah. He was asking me about what to get you for Christmas. What year was this? This year. No. No. It was before. The year they started dating. It was right before I started dating her. It was the year before. He was like, I need to get Katie Christmas gifts. She cleans so much around here and takes care of it. I need to get her a Christmas gift. Oh.
And he's like, what do I get her? What do I get her? He's like, I don't want to get her something basic like a candle. That's stupid. And I was like, I don't know. It ain't that deep. Just like get her like a gift card to Starbucks or something. And then you never gave it to her. Well, I got whatever that stuff was. And then like $50 in Starbucks gift cards didn't give it to you though. Shut up. That's so funny.
But I decided you didn't deserve it. That's so sweet, but also so sad. Yeah, and then he never gave it to you and used it for himself. I mean, buying it's one thing. Wrapping it is like, oh. Yeah, you know, you didn't have to wrap it or anything. You could have just been like, here, Kate, Merry Christmas. Guys, I freaking fell asleep in school today. Really? Really? I fell asleep on my bed today. Geometry. Geometry.
I'm so embarrassed. Did you like jump in your sleep? Yes. Oh my gosh. That's what I was about to say. That used to happen to me all the time. I was looking at my friend like dozing off and then I looked at her and then I went, but like I like jumped. I like went back and jumped. It was really embarrassing. And then the teacher like looked at me and like looked back. And also I go to tutoring every morning or not every morning, but like sometimes. Does that mean you're stupid?
No. You can't pass it on your own. It means I'm studious. You have extra classes. It means I'm studious. Studious? Yes. Sounds like stupid.
well don't worry i didn't have a student you didn't have class what you didn't do class you choose not to do class yeah i dropped out my parents did graduate them early because they was because i was that smart no think about it anytime you graduated early what do you think of genius spell graduate super scientist that's me they just gave up they said he's not going to college he doesn't need anything what i'm saving you from spelling graduated i want to hear him say it
I've read it yet, Cash. Can you tell us the months of the year in order? Let me tell you something. A spelling bee or the months of the year does not decide someone's IQ. Okay? What decides someone's IQ is like their intelligence and like more things besides. I feel like everybody over the age of 10 should be able to state the months of the year in order. Yes, and you know I have issues doing that because...
I'm dyslexic and that I mix things up all the time. I go to tutoring. Yes. And I mix J and G up a lot. Wait, you miss what? J and G. Do you spell Jesus like G-E-S-E-S? He did do that once. He did. I'm not going to lie. That's actually Malvin Alex's favorite story. We said, okay, spell Jesus. He goes, G-E-S-E-S.
We go, oh, gosh. That's so embarrassing. No, for some reason, Jason G. Then we said spell ceiling. He said S. Wow. My DoorDash is trying to literally go crazy. Wait, is he here? No. Oh. But I just got a message from DoorDash. Treat yourself to Fat Shack.
Dang. You're down bad over there. It's okay. Cash has like concealer on. Okay, yeah. Okay, Mav, I have a question. So when you found this Christmas gift that you had bought me but never gave me, instead of just being like, oh, I'll give it to her now, you just threw it away? Yeah, you kind of did the hard part. I think I just gave it to Kinsey. What? He put it in a drawer with all the other stuff that he put in drawers. This man just throws like...
Wow, so can I get my Christmas present? I don't know if that is Starbucks cards are still there Kinsey Christmas present and you you said no good. It's mine now. Who's the year? That's crazy. Also. I'm kind of confused. I didn't get it to her It would have been two months before yeah Because buying it is hard to take them until we were married well
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Stop! Everyone's going to come from inside the deck. Sacrifice! Sacrifice! Sacrifice! You know, I have a birthday coming up. June 23rd. Yeah. All I'm saying is I do expect double in Starbucks gift cards on that day because of this incident. I want to test cash and intelligence. It is June 23rd.
I knew it! I am so good. Test my intelligence without spelling me or months of the year and I will ace it all. Okay. Spell ceiling. Say the months of the year. I'm asking AI to give me a hard trick question here.
Okay. I can get anything. You think you can get anything? Anything besides spelling or the months of the year. And the months of the year, I'm actually pretty sure I've aced now. Yeah, there's a literal calendar right there. Like, are you stupid? Yeah, but it's only stuck on February. Okay. You have 10 seconds to answer. Okay. Easy. 10 seconds. Easy. After I finish talking. Easy. Easy. A farmer has 10 sheep and all but seven run away.
Later, he buys three more sheep. Then half of his flock gets eaten by wolves overnight. Wait, hold on. Kate talked. No, sorry. I hate questions like this. I'm zoning out. Oh, my gosh. A farmer has ten sheep. Okay. And all but seven sheep run away. Later, he buys three more sheep. And then half of his flock gets eaten by wolves overnight. How many sheep does he have left? Starting now. Nine. Eight. I have this. Seven. He has like six and a half sheep.
How does one have six and a half? No. Yes, he has five. First of all, don't have to you knew that. That was the easiest answer ever. It was a trick question. Ten sheep. Yeah. He loses three. All but seven run away.
Okay bet he gets three more sheep bet no no all but seven all but seven yeah, so oh so he is seven All but seven so three run away. He buys three more. It's like a trick question that you idiot Yeah, that's that's that's exactly my point I added all the sheep all the sheep up and then I added three more so 13 Yeah, six and a half. That's true. Yes. Yes, thank you
He has six and a half sheep. Yeah. One was gone out. No, I won. So a farmer. No, I won. No, no. I win. No. Have y'all seen this reel? No. There's like talking about a math question and it's like, Susie was 10 feet under the water and then she swam five meters and then you see like a girl and she's like above the pool swimming in midair. Have you seen this reel? No. Oh, wow. All right. What was yours, Harper? Well, what's it called? What's it called?
Susie was like, nobody knew what you were talking about. No, no one did. No, so basically a farmer rode to his farm on Saturday. He stayed there for one day, but he rode back on Friday. Okay. How long was he there for?
So a farmer was, a farmer rode on his horse. The horse's name was Friday. Dude. No, I knew that one. He would never know that. Yeah, I did know that one. That was from iCarly. You knew that? Yeah, of course I did. I was in so deep on that one. All right, Matt, ask me another one. And I don't want anybody's help or interruptions. Yeah. I'm kidding. All right. I hate these questions. Let me hear it, please. His name was Friday. Okay, I mean, I haven't read this one. I don't like this one, though.
Well, then don't ask me that one. What vegetable makes you cry? Five, four, three, two, one. Onion. Yep. Do you guys feel like we're low-key kind of... You know how iCarly, they have like a little competition with that? Should we do that? Little competition with what? The horses. Your mom. And then Neville won the competition. No, Kate, no one knows. I don't know what you're talking about, actually. Neville's the one who's like, I will rule you. You'll rule this day, Carly Shay. Carly Shay.
You know, one time I got on a random business call for something, like a brand deal or something. I don't even know. And Neville was on it. What? It was just me, this other guy, and Neville. His contact and Cash's phone is Neville from iCarly. Well, I've been...
I've met. And I was like, what? I met Schwoz. It was so random. He met Schwoz. Who's Schwoz? From Henry Danger. He's in one of my posts. Oh, I've never watched Henry Danger. Was that at the Kids' Choice Awards? Yeah. It was so cool. And then his son. So at first I walked up to him and I was like, oh, Schwoz. And then he was like, yes.
Wait, is that his real name or his? No, his acting name. Oh. So I kind of felt bad. I was like, Schwoz. And then he was like, hello. And he doesn't actually sound like that, but like that's how he sounds in the movie. And I was like, hi, or the show. And I was like, hi, can I get a photo? And he was like, yes. And then his son recognized me. And then he all of a sudden, and then like Schwoz got very nice after that.
I'm sure he was nice before. He was nice before, obviously, but he got even nicer after that. Matt, do you have one, bud? I do. Okay, please. Are you ready? Yeah, challenge. I haven't fully read the question, so if it sounds stupid halfway through, just count me on. That's all right. Here we go. A thief steals a bag of coins from a merchant and escapes on a horse traveling 20 miles an hour. The merchant, furious, chases him on a faster horse. What? Oh.
Really? Yeah. Well, I asked for no interruptions and I got one. All right. A thief steals a bag of gold coins from a merchant and escapes on a horse traveling 20 miles an hour. The merchant furiously chases him on a faster horse at 25 miles per hour. The thief has a two-hour head start and the merchant begins his pursuit exactly two hours after the thief.
However, the thief drops half his coins after one hour of writing and stops for exactly one hour to gather them before continuing at the same speed. I didn't make it out, alright? It wasn't even over yet. Well, the set distance would be equal to 20 plus 20, negative T, parentheses. No one knows what you're saying. I was expecting, like, the Friday one. Okay.
meredith bought 75 watermelons those kind of questions yeah and she ate 25 the merchant went off two hours later and approximately went 25 i got one i got one okay if you say what i think you're gonna say what i don't know you can't hear that you can't hear you okay well i said it okay all right well i don't know what matt said but johnny ate or johnny has 100 burgers
Okay. Is Cash Johnny? No. What the? Did Johnny eat? No. Johnny has 100 burgers and Johnny ate 90 of them in a day. How many does Johnny have now? 10. None? I didn't even hear the question. Johnny has 100 burgers, but he ate 90 of them in a day. How many burgers does Johnny have now? 10. 10. Math? What is the question? Oh my gosh. What? Johnny had 90 burgers or Johnny had 100 burgers. He ate 90 burgers in a day. How many does he have left?
Johnny had 100 and he ate 90. Johnny has 100 burgers. He ate 90 of them in a day. How many does Johnny have now? 100. How many days have passed? Just the one? That's the whole thing. Okay, well then. He has 100 burgers. Nope. Johnny has no burgers because Johnny died from eating too many burgers.
That's a realistic one y'all's aren't realistic. Well, I guess Johnny has a thousand gallons of water He drinks 900 of them. How much does he have left? Not in Johnny's dead because yeah drink too much water Okay, fine I got one I got one ready wait, let me think about it somebody else talk for a second We're back
Hey, Harper had something to talk about. Yes. That we can't talk about. And that's okay. We'll talk about it later. I can cry without eyes and fly without wings. What am I? An angel. He's in so deep right now. Wait, what was the question? I'm not really good at riddles. I was asking for like a... Math? Do you think you're better at math? Yeah, that's my strong suit. What was the question?
I can cry without eyes and fly without wings. What am I? I can cry without eyes. I hate riddles. And fly without wings. I'm so good at them. Oh, here's a good one for cash. Okay, bet. Better be math. I'm not going to lie. I'm so bored of this. Time. How many months? No. No. It was clouds. Clouds, no. How many months have 28 days? One. Well, then except for February. Frick! Wait! Wait!
That's a trick question. Okay, all of them do. But actually, to answer your question, actually, only one. Only one. And don't y'all sit here and tell me that all of them have 28 days. Because yes, all of them do. But not all of them only have 28 days. Dude, you're a smart cookie. Wow. This is great. Let's move on. Cowboys are so boring. Kate, I'm flexing here. On the years that February doesn't have 28 days, how many days does it have? 28. 28.
You know what I'm saying? 31. February? I'm looking at it right now on the calendar. 29. Did that say 29? Really? Oh, yeah, 29. Yep, you're right. All right. Wait, what? Move on. This year it did have 28. Okay, ready, Cash? A clock strikes six times in five seconds. I'm sick of this. How long does it take to strike 12 times? Wait. I swear Matt has not had to say one without being interrupted. What? These are just so boring. Okay, fine, Kate. We'll do it your way.
Yeah. So today I was really tired. I didn't even want to get on the podcast. And, you know, I really just didn't want to do anything today besides eat in my bed and be skinny.
But those two things don't work at the same time. No, they don't. So I blamed Cash. I blamed him for not letting me be a bozo. I also blamed Cash for not letting me sleep tonight. Because he existed. And then didn't exist because he left me. So then I couldn't sleep again. But then he came back and I still couldn't sleep. Because he already ruined my sleep once. And so now I can never sleep.
forever why are you making me sound like that because that's how you sound man no i don't i talk with enthusiasm in my voice talk with enthusiasm real quick let's see it i just did okay well all right a farmer has 10 cows okay no no cows no cows all right a farmer has no cows i guess cash has no cows listen i
I do this. I'm fine. I have a fun game. I have a joke. This is called. Not another game. Oh, you got a joke? I have a joke. Okay, okay, okay. We might as well hear a joke. Yeah. It might make you all oh, oh. Okay. That made me oh, oh. Anyways, a cow is standing on the ground. Oh, yeah. You're going to talk about cows, but I don't. A cow is standing on the ground. What is it called? Wait, what? A cow is standing on the ground. Ground beef. Yes.
Why is nobody LOLing? Wow, that's funny. I got a game. It's called Am I Telling a Truth or Am I Telling a Lie? So two truths and one lie. No, it's just am I telling a truth or am I telling a lie? So two truths and a lie. No, it's one truth and one lie? No, it's one thing. Can you please just... Okay, go first. Everyone says if it's a truth or a lie. Yes, it will be one statement. Wow. What a good game you invented. Now you guys talk so much that I forgot the statement. Oh my gosh. So one truth
I'm going to rage. No, it's just a statement and we have to guess if it's a truth or a lie. Yeah. That's so stupid. No, it's just one. It's like the reverse. No, Cash. No. Why, Harper? Why? Why? Why?
No, I want to do a truth, two truths and one lie, because that's what I became prepared with. No, it's going to be okay. Just let him go. No, no, no, no, no. Trust me. We're going to do two truths and a lie. Harper! It's going to be fine. I know, but it's not, because it came with one truth and a lie. What was it, man? It was so good. Okay, I have mine. Can I go? Yeah, you go. Wait, are you just saying one statement? Am I saying one lie and one truth? No, this is just a statement.
Wait, we're just saying statement? Just one single sentence. Well, no, it's not a statement. I don't know if this requires a statement or a question. I get the point. I get the point. What are we playing? I get the point of the game. No, we're gonna... Okay. Oh, my gosh. We're gonna play two chutes and a line next. We can do that next. But... Oh, I'm sorry. I was saying, for now, we can play the statement game. Okay, let's play the statement game.
the statement game i'll go first okay cash sweats a lot in bed so every night i wake up and roll over and find that he is sleeping on a towel so is this supposed to be are we guessing if it's true or false yeah well that would be true yes yeah see that was easy that was glad we got the gist just that was just insulting the game okay fine fine fine um one time did i pee on honey what
Did you? I hope that's a lie. Does anybody want to guess if that's true or false? It's false. I'm going to actually guess it's true. I'm going to say false. It is true. She ran under the stream. It was not my fault. I was peeing outside. Honey's crazy. Stella too. She got some splash as well.
This is false because that is disgusting. Disgusting doesn't mean it's false. No, you should have said something so we could give them a bath. Why would you not tell us? I mean, dogs are dirty, man. They didn't mind. Dogs pee on themselves. I've literally kissed Stella's back before. No, Stella does not pee on herself. That girl spreads her legs.
far from me. Stella's got the craziest stance when she's going to the bathroom. You know that stance that Kate does sometimes with her toes pointed different? That's how Stella goes to the bathroom. That is true. Sometimes I look out and like Stella and Honey are like going to the bathroom and sink and Stella just looks way more like proper, not proper, but cleaner with it. So.
um i wish you would have told us when you put his hair gets stuck in her pee all right i got a statement okay statement that's crazy incoming statement i once squeezed eggs out of a snake ew why do i feel like it's true oh that is true that's true yeah true that's if it were coming out of anyone else's mouth i'd say false no and kenzie wouldn't have just kenzie wouldn't have just thought of that i feel like you think i'm an idiot no i just think maybe she's trying to bait us
She could be, but no, she definitely squeezed eggs out of a snake before. Watch. I got one. I got one. This one is for Maverick and Kenzie. You guys remember the other day when we were getting stuff out of the cars and I was like, oh, guys, I just scratched your car. I'm so sorry. Remember that? Yeah.
So did I scratch your car then? Or did I scratch it two months ago and I never told you and I felt like I should tell you guys and I was finding the proper way to do it so I told you then. That is crazy to act like you just accidentally scratched it in front of us instead of telling us beforehand.
Did I? Did you? I mean, if you scratched my car two months ago and just didn't tell us because you were worried about it, I mean, that's pretty crazy. Well, did I? Well, did you? Yeah. Now you tell the truth. Did you hit it with your door?
Uh, did I? I was wondering how a TV could do that because it was kind of deep and I was like, that's kind of crazy. Wait, you guys actually believe that? No. I mean, I believe it. Wait, what was it? A truth or a lie? Oh, that was a lie. I scratched their car the other day with the TV and I was like, oh, I scratched your car. But I was telling the truth just now. I didn't do it two months ago.
Okay. Okay. Wow. Kate's wasn't as good. That's all right, though. I got you guys. We all have flops down there. Okay, I won. I can solve a Rubik's Cube in 24 seconds. False. False. False. I believe it. Kate, you just flopped. I can only solve one in 30 seconds, and there's no way you're faster than me. You can't solve one in 30 seconds, because I know that I'm faster at a Rubik's Cube than you are. Oh, my gosh. Ain't no one solving a Rubik's Cube. Nobody's solving a Rubik's Cube if I mix it up.
Yes. What? I mixed them up good. Where's my Rubik's Cube? I can guarantee I can solve a Rubik's Cube faster than everyone in this room except Alex. Maverick, you're such a liar. How am I a liar? What do you mean? Because you had this conversation with me before and we sat down and you did it like 20 times and you couldn't beat my score. Wait, Kinsey's better at Rubik's Cube than you. That was shuffling cards. We also did that and I beat you in that too. No, we shuffled cards. We did not do the Rubik's Cube. We did do the Rubik's Cube. No, ma'am. Yes, we did at my house. No, ma'am. Yes, we did.
Oh, and you're a crappy Rubik's Cube? Oh, yeah. She got a little crappy one. No, I got a Speed Cube. I'm just like... A Speed Cube? Speed Cube. That's not what they're called. Oh. America's Speed Cube. And it's really good, actually. Y'all can judge me all you want. It's a good cube. Let's play the two truths and a lie game now. I'm so sore from pacing. Pacing? From pacing. Yes, I was pacing across my room the other day, and it was... Why were you pacing across your room? You were pacing your room so hard, you got sore? Yeah.
What the? What type of pacing were you doing? I was very worried, okay? About what? Nothing. Just work. Yeah. Just work? Alright, let's play two, three, two, one. Who wants to go first? You. No. I can go first. Wait, wait, I didn't get to make a statement. Oh, okay, okay. Yes, he did, didn't he? No, I didn't. Alright, make a statement. Let's hear it. Okay. Dude, yeah, make your statement. He doesn't even have a statement. Why you gotta interrupt me like that? I'm sorry. Final statements, come on. Okay, final statements.
When I first told Kinsey I loved her, I didn't mean it. That's a lie. Yeah, that's a lie. Well, you know, Kinsey, I'm going to hope that it's a lie, but that is true. That is so not true. No, I'm actually serious. It's true. Uh-oh. That shouldn't have been said on a podcast. Why would you say that, actually?
Are you being serious? When did you say you loved her first? And why would you lie? You are so cooked. No, it came out accidentally. And then you're like, oh, I can't take it back. Yeah, no, I know what that means. Yeah, you better. That's what I'm saying, dog. Because you're like, all right, but I love you to your mom or something like that. Or it's like, all right, but I love you. I've accidentally told waiters, like, thanks, love you. I'm like, oh, dang it. Yeah, no, I know. Stop trying to cover that up. I don't think that. No, I'm serious. No.
I'm serious. When did you tell her you loved her for the first time and why would you lie about it? Wait, pause. No, wait, Kinsey. Do you remember when he told you the first time? Yes. What was it? How'd it go? He said, I love you. Yeah, well, obviously we know that. Actually, I said, I love you first. Oh, what? And then he like basically told me not to say that. And then he told me. He said, don't you say that ever again.
And then she started crying and I felt bad and I said I love you. I did. I just cried. And then I said I had to say I love you. Wow. I think the story actually is true now. No, it's not true. It is true. Why did you say that? Oh, no. This is crazy. This is crazy.
wait you actually started crying yes i'm gonna start crying again why would you say that cry don't cry it's in the past we're married i love you i love you it's fine everything's fine wait why'd you tell her to not say that what oh don't just it was too soon how soon was it when'd you tell him this like on the first date no oh my gosh don't act you're such a liar it's actually april 1st today so how'd
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so good actually with that yeah i was at the chick-fil-a drive-thru and i was like oh no and you were like five snaps deep like you were like playing it i was like don't cry i'm fine i'm recovering oh i can't believe you just lied to the entire world like that it's april fool's day april fool's is my favorite national holiday it's same i love it love it more than anything anything
Not funny, didn't laugh. More than anything. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, but you know, there was just something that I would like to hit on out of that story. Why did you tell him to never say that again? I'll be honest, I don't remember any part of that story. Don't say that again. I was very happy when you didn't ask me. Okay, well, Kinsey, why did he say that? Oh, we had had a serious... Well, first...
He had asked me, when do I think is an appropriate time to say I love you? I'm assuming because he didn't have the courage to just say it. Is that so deep? Or is it really that deep? Or actually, I think it is. I mean, it is pretty deep. Yeah, it's pretty deep. So, how'd it go? He had asked me...
Probably like a day or two before when is like the appropriate time to be able to say I love you because he didn't have the courage to say I love you. What a stupid question to phrase it that way. You asked that? No, the way one girl came to say. No, she phrased that so bad. Dude, did you have your makeup on while you said it too, man? Maybe I did, but that wouldn't matter. When's the appropriate time to say that I love you? Hey, buddy, you're wearing makeup. Oh, good thing I got my Starbucks gift card with me.
I don't remember exactly how he said it, but we had a conversation like that. He was definitely like, so when's the time to say that I love you? Well, that sounds asinine, and I definitely didn't say it that way. What? What? Nobody knows what that means. What? Oh my gosh, how many times do we got to tell you? Stop using words above seven letters. No one knows what they mean. Seven and under. That is under.
Acid? You gotta spell acid first. That's how you spell acid wrong as well. Wait, hold on. A-acid. A-S-I- Oh, A-C. A-C-acid. A-C-I-D. That's how you spell acid. Right? Right?
Why is no one telling me right? Yes, that's why you spelled acid. But I didn't say acid. Well, it should be like A-S-E-D. No, asinine. Seven letters. Asinine. A-C. No. A-S? Yes. A-S-I-N-I-N. So A-S-I-N-I-N. Is that the whole word? No. E. E? Yeah. So that's seven letters. Seven letters. Yeah. Okay.
Did I say seven and under or did I say under seven? You said seven and under. I don't know, but if you can't do a seven-letter word, that's a problem. Okay, well, no one else could either, so. All right, so I think we should all really stop interrupting Kinsey now and let her tell your little girly story.
What's an acid on my dad? And so we had that conversation, and then a few days go by, and then we had another really deep conversation. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're saying everything too fast. I can't soak it all in. It's acid on me. It's too acid on me for me. It's acid on me. All right. Someone give him the definition. That's my new favorite word. So Mav came to you. Do you want the definition? No. Should we just let him use it? Yeah, we should just not use the definition of the word. Okay. So Mav, what happened? What?
I just need to know the story. So we had that conversation about when to say that. And then a couple days later, we were having a different conversation.
That was really personal. Like what? What did y'all say in it? Can't tell you. It was personal. No. And then about an hour after that conversation, I told Mav I love him. And he was like, do not tell me that just because I told you some personal stuff about me. And don't say that. Wow. She's really changing the vernacular right now.
It's preposterous the way you form it. Oh my god. And did you cry when he said that? Yes. Wow. Do not say you love me. No. So wait, then who said I love you after that? When was the first time after that? Oh, then... Guys, it was a lie. When we said a statement, it was a lie. Yeah, we'd like to hear from Kinsey. Oh, then I explained to him how I can say I love you whenever I want to say I love you in...
You said that? Some sort of those words. And that I was not saying that just because of our one conversation. And then he was like, oh, okay, fine. I love you. Wait, then you followed up with I love you? I don't know. You told her not to say it and like seconds later you said it back? It was like an hour and a half long conversation. Okay, that's not very long. An hour and a half later you told her you love her? Fine, I love you then.
I'm not saying. I told you. He already knew he loved me two days before. It just took him two days for courage. How long were you guys into dating when you said this? I don't know. A month? No idea. I actually really, I don't remember. I feel like you have to. Wait, do you remember?
Cash and I were saying I love you before we were dating because we had been talking so much. We were talking when we were 12. That was my go-to. Oh, wait, Cash. Wait, when did you say it and you meant it? What?
I've made it pretty good on the wedding day. Okay, that's pretty good. I've made it a real good day. Okay. I love you. Harper, have you ever said I love you? On accident, yeah. I mean, I've been like, all right, but I love you. See you tomorrow. No, have you ever told a guy you love him? Yes. I accidentally told my ex. I was like, we're on call or in the car or something, and I was like, all right, night, night, love you, see you in the morning. And I say that to my mom every single night. I'm like, all right, night, night, love you, see you in the morning. And I gave her two. Did you give him that? No.
Whoa. No, no, no. I kissed her on the cheek because we made it up in Minnesota. And we, she's right. This is my mom. So I go, muah, muah. Night, night. Love you. See you in the morning. Oh, that's cute. And then, and then, and then I walked out of his car and I was like, all right, night, night. Love you. See you in the morning. I mean, I mean, and then, yeah, it was a whole thing. Was it awkward after that? No, he was like, it's fine. Don't worry about it. I remember the time you told me that you love me and I was like,
Wow, does he mean it? Was one time after Cash, you know, had called it off because he was calling it off every month and a half. And you were like, maybe he means it this time. I remember I didn't talk. No, no, there was this one time that like, it was, okay, because we had not talked to each other for like six months and then we started talking to each other again like as, you know. Wait, why didn't y'all talk for six months? Oh, okay.
Probably because she called it off, but it's not really that important to the story. You want to hear the traumatic? I would love to hear the traumatic story. I did. I did share a bit about this in the interview. Can we title this episode the first time I said I love you? Well, we never got to play two Jews in a lie. Well, I know, but I think that's a good title. The first time I said I love you. Okay. Yeah. You say your story and then I'm going to say mine. Well, I don't know if I should share the full story because I shared a lot of this in our, our,
Other video? Oh. Yeah, don't say that yet. We're not allowed to announce that yet for like a good like month. What? Anyways, I will give you kind of a... You know what it is. I'll give you guys kind of like a rundown, but you guys will get the full story in detail later.
Anyways, so pretty much Cash and I had been like on and off texting and stuff for a couple of years. And when I was almost 14, so it was the end of eighth grade. Almost 14, 13 years old. No, no, no, no, no. This is a key point. This is a key point. Okay. The fact that I wasn't 14 yet is huge. Oh yeah. So I was 13 and I was getting my braces off in like a week. And then like two or three days later was going to be my 14th birthday. And I was hot.
There's no way you were just waiting for the braces to come off, Cash. No. I had to see what she looked like underneath. No, it's even worse. I had like a week until I was getting my braces off and I was so excited. Like for months, I was like, I'm going to get my braces off and I get to show Cash like what I look like without braces. Like this is so exciting. Like two or three days before I go to get my braces off,
he just never answers my texts again ever for six months straight he didn't text me we had been texting every day FaceTiming every day and one day when he's at VidCon in 2018 with whoever the heck he was with he decides he's gonna stop texting me and so he didn't text me and I got my braces off and I didn't get to show him what I look like without my braces and he didn't text me happy birthday and I remember
And I remember after I got my braces off and he didn't text me, I was waiting and I was like, surely he's going to text me on my birthday. Like he knows my birthday is next week. We were just talking about it and he didn't text me on my birthday. And then, I mean, why did you go back to this guy? Yeah, like this guy sounds horrible. And so I asked a month. Hey, really slow down. I really want to take it in. You're dropping a lot of bombs. Okay.
So after about a month, because I sent my last snap to him, it was normal. Like we were like texting and Snapchatting. And so I sent him like a random snap and then he takes a few hours to answer. And I'm like, oh, that's weird. Like he usually responds pretty quickly. And he didn't. After like a day or two, I was like, I did something wrong. And I like,
was like panicking inside and I couldn't just keep snapping him or anything. And so like after like a week, I like double snapped and I was like, hey, like what you up to? He didn't answer. And after about a month, because I don't think I said anything after that, after a month, he opened my snaps and you know, you can see when someone opened
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That's it and then he never responded and I was like he left me on open but I was like well I'm not gonna keep reaching out to him when clearly he doesn't want to talk to me So for six months straight we did not talk Yeah, that took some guts to not snap him back Yeah, let me tell you something about that little story you told what um, do you do you what do you remember? What happened right before that?
No. What? Oh, she doesn't remember. She just slipped her mind. Oh. Poof, it's gone. Just like that. Yeah. You don't remember when you dropped me and started talking to the other guy and started lying about it? She started talking to Mitchell. We got all into this. I gave you guys all the details. And you started lying about it to me?
and locking me out of the house party whoa locking you out of the house party i don't know if you guys know what house party is but it was a group facetime app and you could see when your friends were on facetime with other people okay okay and she was on facetime with this other guy let me say something party let me say something yeah i went into full detail about this and you guys will get to know it soon but do we want to keep talking about it now i've heard this story
So I'm pretty sure we've talked about it on the pod a little bit. I've heard the house parts. I don't know. Okay. Well, I guess we'll stop talking about it because we are coming out with a physical paper object. Wait, why can't we say it?
Starts with B and ends with O. No, no, now you gave it away. It starts with B and ends with an O. Wait, okay, but can I tell you something? It's physical paper. We're coming out with something that might be something like we just said, but it's not going to be out for like a month or so. Pookie. Or like probably two months. Pookie. Probably two to three months. Let me tell y'all something. You'll get all the love.
So we're putting a bunch of our deep stories in there that we haven't said on the pod and stuff. It's stuff we want to say on the pod, but just can't. But you can't. Yeah. So that is to be continued. Yeah. Well, so basically, let me just tell you something. I literally got brainwashed by this guy. Really? Okay. Did you? Been there, done that. Yeah. So. Why is it so easy to do as a guy, man? I mean.
I've already watched so many girls. By the way, I never hung out with him either. So that's even odder. That's a joke, by the way. Yes. Odder. Odder. No.
No, but yeah, I was literally brainwashed by him. He was like, I love you so much. Love you, love you. Wait, you were brainwashed or you just fell for him? No, I both. Like, literally, it was so bad. Yeah, I think girls throw around the word brainwashed. What do they mean? I fell in love. That's a heavy word to throw around. I'm just saying. Brainwashed may not be the correct word, but maybe it's like led on. I don't think we use the word. Let's not use the word brainwashed. That's above seven letters. Gaslit?
Remember the rules. It's very five letters in there. Brainwashed is literally eight. No. Oh, my gosh. You're even worse. Okay, well. Did you say brainwashed is eight? Brainwashed is B-R-A-I-N-W. Did I spell it wrong? Don't tell me I spelled it wrong. You just spit. I know I spit. I have a spit problem. Everybody knows this. B-R-A-I-N-W.
A-I-N-W-A-S-H-E-D. It's 11 letters. That is way over the minimum. That's two different words. Minimum is over the minimum. What? Minimum is over the minimum. That's over the maximum. It's over the maximum. All right. Well, yeah. So, yeah. One night he was like, he was like, okay, but I love you on accident. And he was like, crap.
So he called me back and he was like, sorry, I usually say that to my friends. And I was like, oh. What? Friends? Yeah, he was like, sorry, I usually say that to my friends. That's, like, I didn't mean to say I love you. Because I remember, like, the first time we were ever talking, he was like, yeah, I think it's kind of weird if people say I love you so easily. And then he said that and I was like, yeah. And then, like, a month later, he was like, yeah, I kind of just used her for clout. I was like, oh. Okay.
Could have told you that. And I literally posted a TikTok about him. Not actually, like, about him, but I was like, I have a crush. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't work out. Well, that's good. Anyways. Didn't work out. Yeah. Hope you learned. I have a voice lesson after this. Oh, but I didn't even... Maybe you can write a life lesson about that in your book. I didn't even... Bookie. I didn't even tell you guys when I remember, though. So, anyways, skip forward to the whole drama of us, like, ghosting each other. Cash and I started talking again, and we had been, like... This was, like, six months later. We had been texting, and...
And about three weeks into like us texting again, he was kind enough to actually say it to me this time. I don't think we should keep talking. And I was like, okay. And so at least he told me this time. So we don't talk for like a day or two. And then he randomly texts me first. And he's like, I miss talking to you. And I was like, I miss talking to you too. And like I was really sad and I was like crying and stuff. And then, yeah, he said, I love you.
Over text message? Yeah, he was like... Me and Cash. He was like... What? Obviously it meant something to her. Yeah, I remember him saying it because I was like, I miss talking to you too. And he was like, I know, like, I miss talking to you. I love you. And I was like... See? You see that facial expression she just made? She was like this. Instead of, don't say that again. Yeah. That's so bad. Kate texted me back. She's like, unsend that right now.
Y'all laughing, but I definitely know there's times when people have said, I love you, and y'all are like, oh, no, don't say that. I say I love you to all my friends, though, you know, but not, like, guys, of course. No, in a relationship, when somebody says that, man, it is kind of like, frick. I still say I love you to my ex, though, because we're just good friends. Well, that's good. Yeah. That's good. That's good. Yeah. Yeah.
What? What? I'm glad you have enough love to go around. Yeah, there's enough love to go around. I'm pretty lovable, you know? I wouldn't say that. I mean, like, he said it first. Hey, man, we never turn on these lights behind y'all. Hey. Oh, we've been pretty dull back here. I knew something was wrong. Don't worry, I got it.
So, uh... He starts laughing to himself. I wouldn't say that to him. Is he gonna toot in my face? Since he's your ex. No, but we do really still love each other. Move your head. Are y'all still together? Move your head. No, we've been together for three years. Wait, you've been together three years? Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I guess like you dated someone for three years. Yeah, on and off on and off for three years. Oh my gosh No, yeah, we meet him or a thing for like three years on and off like he cheated obviously Multiple times, but we still say I love you as friends. No, and we still go to dinner No, it's not we're friends and we go to dinner together and I think we're even going to dinner tonight sounds like you're You're dating currently. No, we're not
I'm talking to somebody that we know. Yes. And I'm talking to a person right now. Wait, why? Why, though, would you tell your ex that you love him still after you've broken up? Harper! Harper!
And why would you continue to go on dates? Okay? Yeah, because I go on dates with my friends like like what? I go on a date with her like almost every night about girls I'm talking about. Why do you go I know but that's not a date I don't date my guy friend. I know I know but I still go to dinner with my friends So I like literally on a dinner date on Sunday night We went to Whataburger together and I didn't have any lashes or makeup on and he was like dang You look pretty ugly right now like as a joke cuz we're friends duh. Oh
Sounds like you're flirting. So y'all are chill with it. So it sounds like me. Yeah, we're chill with it. Guys and girls cannot be friends without one of them catching feelings. No. Trust me. We do not like each other. And we just say I love you. Whoa, slow down. We're getting ahead of ourselves. Yeah, no. I stand by that. You're dating. No, we're not. Next thing you know, he's going to say I love you. And you're going to be like, what? We always say I love you. Oh.
- What? - Well, they're already there. - Wait, wait, so you go on dates with this guy and you say I love you and you previously dated him before and you're clearly not dating. - We're not dating or talking, we're just strictly friends. - Did you kiss him at Water Burger? - No, I didn't. - Did you kiss your friend? - Harper, Harper, I used to be friends with guys. - And you took them on dates and then you told them I love you? - Well, pause, pause, pause. - And you previously dated them before? - Listen, I used to be friends with guys, okay?
I had all the guy friends. I actually really did. Yeah. Before my sophomore year of college, I had a lot of guy friends and I had specific guy friends. I would go hang out with just one-on-one and I'd go eat like what a burger or whatever with them and just hang out. And I never said, I love you too. Yeah. And guess what? Did they ever try to buy your meal? Listen,
What do you mean? Yeah, sometimes. All trying to kiss her. He buys my meals for me. No. We're back. Wait, what'd she say? What'd she say? Yeah, it's cut. We're back. Wait, say it real quick. No, we're back. I don't know if it had to be cut. Oh, it did. What was it? Anyways, he started telling me he loved me and I didn't think twice about it. I was like, oh yeah, you're just my friend, you know? And then one day he tried to kiss me and...
And then it was all over. And then you spit in his face and said, don't do that. Our friendship was over. Did you kiss him back? No. Unfortunately, I grabbed his face because I was so shocked and I just pushed him away. It was really sad. Dang, I would have wanted a refund on that food. That is rough. If I buy you food, I at least deserve a kiss. Guys and girls can be friends, but they can't be like close, close friends. That was my rule. Yeah, no, I don't kiss this guy. Wait, is that what you and Alex kiss? No.
It always worked with Kate. No, I don't kiss this guy. We just say, like, I love you. Like, bye, I love you. Listen, I'm telling y'all, nothing was worse than being the older brother to Cash when he was hanging out with his friend Kate. I mean, I had to sit inside a Whataburger for three hours. Dude, Matt took one for the team. In the middle of the night. I think I watched both the Mission Impossible movies, too. I said, Matt, here's the plan. We're only in town for the night, so we're going to pick up Kate.
You're gonna go inside a water burger for a few hours. Maybe two, maybe three, maybe four, maybe five. What do you think? We don't know. You should have dropped him off at the theater. No, it was late at night. It was like 2 a.m. And I was like, me and Kate are gonna finally have time without friends around us. Our first time ever being alone. Another time you did me extremely dirty. What? We're honoring Maverick right now, Kate. We're taking him on for the team for four hours. Yes, I sat on that horse.
a hard Whataburger booth with no cushion. Why didn't y'all go into the Whataburger and let him take the car? Well, you can't kiss in a Whataburger. Yeah, obviously, Kenzie, all right? What was I thinking? Y'all don't understand. My phone died, okay? I was in there having a talk to, no offense, Whataburger employees, but the ones at this one were weird, okay? They're on the night shift. Oh,
I'm in there lonely. What do you think they're thinking, though? Like, in the back, they're like, man, this man's been, it's 2 a.m. Guys, I told them what was happening. Sorry, quick intermission. My voice teacher might call me, so I might have to go in a few minutes. All right. She calls you. Well, can I finish up? Matt, I really, I never formally thanked you for that. Thank you. Yeah. That's crazy. And to the Whataburger's employee that were there on the night shift, you're welcome, too, for entertaining me. Okay? What the? What you doing there, man? I provided lots of conversation. I prepared two truths and a lie.
No, no, no. What were you going to say, Kate? Oh, well, this specific trip, when Cash had come down, him and Maverick were in town for the night, and the next morning they were flying to Florida for Playlist Live. And this Cash and I were in the car, and he had been telling me in Oklahoma, like the week leading up, because, you know, obviously I was 14. I was like, I need, like, one of his hoodies. But, like, I never asked. I needed it. He offered to bring me one, and I was like, heck freaking yeah. Yeah.
And so he FaceTimed me and he was like showing me his hoodie. He's like, which one do you want? And I like told him which one I wanted. And he's like, okay. And we get, he comes to Texas and the night he comes to see me before he flies out to Florida, he's like the hoodie you picked, like I want to wear it in Florida. So when I get back, I'm going to see you again the night I get back and I'm going to give you it then. And I was like, okay. It was like two days, two days he was in Florida. And when he comes back to Florida. Did you live there? No.
When he comes back from Florida, he again makes Maverick drive to my house and get out. This time you just sat in my front yard or something. I don't remember. I don't even know where he went. Oh, yeah. I sat on the curb. I sat on the curb. You put me on the curb for like two hours a game. Yeah.
Yeah, I remember your street. I was like, I'm getting to know this place very well. It was in the middle of the night. And this time, Cash comes back from Florida, and I'm all excited to hear about his trip, and I'm all excited to get his red Adidas hoodie. And Mav gets out of the car, and Cash just looks at me with this look on his face. And I was like, oh, no. Like, he's calling it off again tonight. And...
two days ago he was gonna be giving me his hoodie and so i was like that was a big commitment i know and i was like he was like yeah we just we can't keep talking i told you guys we called it off about every about every month and a half so he was just like listen i gotta keep the hoodie no literally i thought you were gonna say you gave it to some other girl in florida he literally maybe he did that's why he didn't give it to me that was probably what he did maybe then i was like
Did you? Wait, did you? Well, no, hold on. So I didn't... I don't know if that happened or not. But when I went to Florida, I did meet another girl. And that's why I called it off. That's crazy. Like a respectful person. Yeah. Because we weren't dating yet. So I was talking to you, Connor, and then I met this other girl. No, you said...
look i want to give you my hoodie like you sometimes say that's very long i want you to be that one that's like not even to first base that's like you got on a plane and met another girl and you're like want to make out no no okay yeah well anyways and so i was like i'm sitting there crying he's calling it off and i was like can i at least like still have the hoodie and he was like i just don't think that's a good idea
find out that the reason he didn't want to give me this freaking hoodie was because I just happened to pick his favorite hoodie and he didn't want to give it to me. I just don't think that's a good idea. I don't know why it was your favorite hoodie and you gave me the option to choose it when you were like, which one do you want on FaceTime? Obviously she's going to choose the one you wear all the time. Man, dude, 15, 16 year old dudes are dirtbags, man. I mean, that is... Yeah, so mean. And then get this. Get this. What do I got to get? He's in Florida meeting another girl
I start seeing TikToks of another girl wearing his hoodie. No. Okay, that picture, you remember that picture? The red hoodie? No, the blue champion hoodie. You remember the picture? Okay, but to be fair, that girl I didn't like. Well, she had your hoodie and I didn't. That's all that I knew. She had your hoodie and I didn't. Wait, that blue champion hoodie was nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen the videos of him with that on.
yeah you still didn't give it to her well that would no but that girl wasn't a girl i like she no you still haven't given it to kate you said you still have no no it's still on his side of the closet i'm not allowed to wear it wow that's crazy why yeah yeah it's for the other girl no i obviously she can wear it i'm worried guys she's not calling me well it's concerning guess we're gonna maybe she doesn't think you're that good at singing oh well she's like it's a lost cause
Guys, I'm so scared. No, I remember that time in my life. I was down bad. She was fired. Because I was so stressed out because I was like leading Kate on and then I canceled on you. And then I was like breaking up with Kate, but we weren't even dating. And then this other girl I was like starting to like and I was like, but I still like Kate. Yeah, that was 12 hours ago, by the way. And then I was so torn and my hormones were going everywhere and I didn't know what to do. Don't talk about your hormones. And then... I'm going crazy.
And then yeah, I ended up making a lot of mistakes along the way and then I ended up with Kate. Yeah, I was like the last option apparently. No, so happy ever after. Wait, did you end up with Kate before or after that girl got with your best friend? Uh,
No that was before before by the time after that trip No, I liked that girl for a very short amount of time and after that trip We talked for like a week or two and then we were like yeah This probably isn't the best thing and then that's when I came right back to Kate like two weeks later. Oh and then Number two Starts with
No, what? Miriam. M? Who was the best friend that went to the... Well, I can't just blast it all over the internet. No, it wasn't Michael. Is that what you're asking? Michael? What the? That's what she was asking. Oh, the best friend that got with her? Oh, I didn't care at the time because that was like months later. Oh. Uh-huh. Whoa. Well, now we're all just one big friend group. Okay. Well, that's gross. I'm going to do the outro music, okay? All right.
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