The stalker, who had mental health issues, believed he was having conversations with JC that she never initiated. This delusion led him to continue sending messages, thinking they were part of an ongoing dialogue.
JC's father confronted the stalker at his workplace, warning him of consequences if he continued to contact JC. The family also obtained a restraining order against him.
The stalker believed messages written on a dollar bill at the family's home were instructions to visit them at 3 a.m. He stood over the wife, believing she had summoned him, which led to his removal from the house.
JC got a different car to try and avoid the stalker, as she suspected he had a tracker on her previous vehicle.
Kate set up security cameras and carried a gun when no one else was home, especially when her friends were away at the casino.
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Oh, the Instagram name? Yeah. Stop. And so my dad comes back in like two hours later and is like, hey, there's like a little toy truck in the yard and I almost hit it, but there's a note on it and it says Jay-Z. And so she walks outside to this toy truck and she picks it up. She's like, somebody is watching me right now. Welcome back to the podcast, guys. Everybody's mad today. Yeah, why? I don't understand. Yeah, you saw it. I walked in. I saw it.
You know what? I'm mad, actually. Everyone's upset right now. Cash, go ahead and tell everyone what you're mad at. Because I don't think it's not me today. So I think you should just say everything. No, I'm not. Okay. Oh, okay. No. What the? I'm so sorry. Why do you sneeze like Pikachu? Gosh, go ahead and chew everybody out. No. No.
Actually, the only person I'm not upset at is Harper. And me? No. High five, Harper. What did I do? I'm not really upset with anybody right now because I just woke up. Somehow, guys, no matter what the time is, we always shoot 15 to 30 minutes late every time. If we're shooting a podcast and we're supposed to shoot it at 1 p.m., we don't shoot until 1.15 to 1.30. And Harper always shows up 15 minutes late.
Because she knows. Because she knows that we're going to be late. And she shows up late and then we're still late.
And today, I was just upset because it was like 11 minutes past time to shoot. So we're 11 minutes late and not one soul is in here. I'm the only one. Well, I was working. I was walking back and forth on the phone. I was helping though. I'm a gender so I don't have a soul, but I was on the couch. Yeah. But I was like, how are we 11 minutes late and no one's here? I got stood up by everyone. Well, I was here. Kind of. You were on the phone. I was one hand on the phone, the other one too. Thanks.
Well, anyways, guys, let's change the mood. Oh, well, I'm tired. I'm feeling a lot of negative energy from this side. I think we should really continue driving this nine minutes. Okay, so who are you specifically mad at? Because I don't feel like it's me. Well, this side of the room, I'm feeling negative energy towards. So are you saying, am I getting this right? Are you saying that they were like...
No. Well, yes. I'm saying it was literally everyone. Even people from yesterday. Because I was here. Like, I was here. And I told you. What? That that was not her fault. That I told her not to do that. Oh, so we need some context because nobody else knows. So let's continue. There was an alarm.
Kate's favorite thing is to hire people and then tell them, oh, don't worry about it. Well, I'll get it. Which just makes our job even impossible. No, because there's a bunch of wood sitting here. And one of the girls that does stuff for us came up and I said, hey, can you make sure the studio is clean? We film tomorrow. She's like, okay. We didn't have very much for her to do at all yesterday. I asked Kinsey multiple times, do you have anything? And she's like, not really. And I was like, well, I don't have very much for her either. But you can clean it up.
clean the studio and get it reset but there's a bunch of wood sitting here and i didn't i was like don't take that down i'll have one of the guys take it down and then we will vacuum back there okay but that's just like one little point to my thing this part yeah can we get a pan around of the room this is this is after it's clean all that on the table right
is from you and Maverick playing Apex yesterday. No, that's Maverick. That's just Maverick. I took my food down. And I told you yesterday. And I saw your plate up here too this morning. Cash, you have a bag of Lay's chips open, a Lunchables, a dirty cup, a prime bottle. That's exactly...
- Oh no, Alex said he walked into my milk cup and he spilt it all over the floor. - Listen, I told you yesterday, she did the best she could because all of the props and things up here, she doesn't know whether to throw away or keep. So she just moves them out of the way. And you said, yeah, you're right. She needs to do it with Alex. Alex is in Oklahoma.
Yeah. But to be fair, I've said this like the past like three weeks and the studio has never been like clean cleaned. Okay. I can literally clean it if like y'all give me extra money. But I just want to say my bit. Okay. Say your bit. Say your bit. Okay. Say two cents. All right.
My bit. Okay. I'll just say my bit. I literally woke up at 5.45 this morning to go to an Alzheimer's Association walk. 5.45? Yes. Wow. And 5.45 to 9 o'clock a.m. And then I took a nap from 10 or 9 to 11, 15. And I literally, my mom was like, up, get
yelling in my ears my dad was like yeah get up you don't want to make me come in your room and um you don't want to what make me come in your room hey we've all heard it yeah and then i literally got out of bed and i got my clothes on and i came here wow i really appreciate you just trying to take away from all the instigating i've been doing okay so back to the knife no and i also like i had a dream about kate
I worked really hard to get this going. I had a dream though, so I think I'm gonna tell the dream. Okay, go for it. She had a dream. I had a dream about Harper. She had a dream. I know another guy that had a dream. Martin Luther King, he died and saved ourselves. He died for our sins. Have you seen that meme? Have you guys seen that?
It's so funny. It's like Martin Luther King. Yeah, who's he? And it's like a little kid. He's like, he died for our sins. Like, no, wrong person. No, like she had to shut up and she ends the video. No, but yeah, Kate, I had a dream. And it was like, I think it was, it was, it was during my nap today.
And it was like us going shopping or something like that. Or it was us on the podcast. Is that because you weren't invited shopping yesterday? She was invited like five times. Yeah, they're all going shopping to match outfits and they didn't invite Harper. No, we invited her like five times. They invited me more than five times. But unfortunately, Harper's busy every single day for the next two weeks. Yeah. Every single day. With y'all. Yeah.
Yeah, if we're not filming, because obviously we can't blow off filming for shopping. So if we're not filming... Which they try to do. Which we obviously can't blow off filming for shopping. Like, the sarcasm I felt there. Like, you should be able to do that. Well, it's...
I still feel tension in this room. I could cut it with a paper knife. I wanted to hear Harper's dream. Oh, so I said like this new cuss word in front of Kate. It was like a new cuss word. A new one? You invented one? No, and everybody was like, you can't say that. If you say that, you die. What? Or if you say that, you lose all your friends and you die. And so as a joke, I was like, paper or whatever it was. And then Kate was like, Harper, you can't do that. You absolutely not.
Oh, this is in a dream. Yeah. Okay, I'm very confused. Oh, okay. This is all making sense to you. Yeah. What are you talking about? This is in Harper's Head. Yeah, I thought it was a true story. Me too. I was like, what was the word? And then I walked away and then like I fell into this lava pit and then that was the end of it. Oh.
That's what happens when you say it away. Did I ever tell you about my Six Flags dream? Well, no, because Kenzie was about to say her dream about me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you had a dream. My dream was crazy. I'm scared. Crazy. So I was in my bedroom, right? Yeah. And I was, like, brushing my teeth or something, and all of a sudden I hear...
And I just knew... Is that me eating? No, no, no. It's like scuba gear. Oh. Oh! She's so haunted from the scuba diving experience. But I just... You know in your dream, like, you don't see people? Like, if somebody's coming to get you, you don't necessarily see them? That is a scary sound to hear that. Yeah, okay. I couldn't do it as well, but that sound. And I just knew it was Maddox. And I knew he was coming to kill me. He was scuba diving? He had a scuba gear gas. Wait, what? Scuba gear?
Maddox? Maddox? Maddox? Maddox? How do you say his name? Was Scooby Diving the kind of game? Oh, wait. Am I saying his name wrong? No, you're saying it right. It's just like that's not... Wow, this is crazy. Kenzie is dreaming about Maddox. Well, it's not over yet. This is the last thing I expected today. It's not over yet.
yet. So he's coming to kill me, I think. Right. And so I leave my bathroom. I go into the bedroom with my toothbrush and I'm like, oh no, what am I going to do? And then there's Harper. And I was like, Harper, don't worry. I'll save you. And so I put Harper in the closet and I like hit her with all the clothes. And then Maddox comes in and I like open the window to make him think that we escaped through the window. And I went back into the bathroom. Why is Maddox after
- I don't know, he was coming after us. - He's getting our money. - And I was just waiting for him to come in and as soon as he comes in, I like pulled the mask off so he can't breathe and I hit him with the toothbrush and I run down the stairs. - Oh my gosh. - Hit him with a toothbrush. - And you're not making this up as you go? - No, I promise, I had that dream and that was the end of it. - But why does he have scuba gear on? I still don't understand. - I don't know, but I knew in my head though that if I took the mask off of him, he couldn't breathe. - Oh, he's an alien.
I don't know what's going on. I saved Harper's life. Thank you. Maddox was coming for you and she saved you. Thank you. You had a dream. About six flags. I had a dream about six flags. Oh, it's just my reoccurring dream that you guys all heard. Oh, let me hear it again. The one where I'm outside six flags and the hail is hitting the bush and coming at me sideways. Oh,
It's reoccurring and it's not fun. Because every time I fall for the bush, I see big hail in the bush and I'm like, ooh, I want to go grab one. And then it flies at me sideways. And it's horrible. That's when the dream ends. The dream ends when the hail goes... Y'all have those dreams that just don't make sense at all? Nope. Like yours? Yeah, I had one. And that one. Last night, I had a dream. Me and you were hiking out with ruck packs. Hiking like an elk out or something. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
- Hiking, what? - Ruck packs. - Ruck packs? - Yeah, what is that? - A large backpack. - Yeah, so it's like we're hiking out. - You don't know what a ruck pack is? - Like, with the backpack you had. That was a ruck pack. - Okay, so me and Mav are walking with backpacks. - Very large backpacks. - Very large backpacks. - Like 50 pound backpacks. - Okay. - And we're hiking out. - Like big backpacks. - Like a big one. - Yeah, but there's like 10 or 15 other people. - Like one as big as. - Also hiking out. And we're also. - Me. - Kinsey. - Yeah. We're also, we're also like somewhere on some islands. - There are the big backpacks too.
The big ones? The extra large ones? Yeah. Okay. They use them in the military. They're called rucksacks. Rucksacks? Not ruck packs. Oh, I don't like that. Can you finish the dream, Mav? It's like a sack over their shoulder. Well, I didn't feel like anyone was interested in it. Yeah, don't apologize because you started out with, we have ruck packs, we're hunting for elk. No, the ruck packs are the big backpacks, too. Oh, the big ones? Oh. Mav, now I understand. Okay, Mav, I'm here. All ears. Go. Well, okay, so we had to keep walking. They're like 50 pounds at least. Or we, like, die. Okay.
There's like 50 other people walking as well with these things and we're on like some sort of island like like a Bahama type island thing and it's just like there's water on each side just like sand in the middle and that's what we're walking on. And if you stop walking we have to get like 50 miles. If you stop before the 50 miles you die. And then you died. You died. That's crazy. You stopped walking. You said I can't keep going. And I was like well I'm gonna keep walking and you died. That was it? So I left you there and they said they'd kill you. What?
Sorry, I feel like that Maverick literally just made up his dream to be like in my dream you were weaker than I Did you guys know that movie we watched your parents that scarred me for life? You shouldn't even say that movie cuz that movie is so so bad I think I closed my eyes for half of it and then on top of that the movie wasn't in English so it was like closed captioned the whole time So it was what? You said so it was
Closed captions. Hey, we had an argument last night. I'm not here to decide the argument. Oh, are you talking about our Walmart? No. Okay, that can come up first, actually, because that's better. No. I don't know either one of these arguments. They think there was a... This is not an argument. This is a factual statement. There was a dude in Walmart. Maverick wasn't at Walmart. That's a lie. He was trying to speak on behalf of Maverick.
You're not gonna believe this a guy followed us mom I said hold it don't I don't even hear it tell to me on the pod tomorrow Oh, so I'm very glad Then I'll let I'll let Kate talk about because I haven't heard it because absolutely ridiculous Yeah, y'all can't say no no no wait, I need to text my boo thing your boo thing there I
- What the hell? - Anyways. - Hopefully the boo thing doesn't see this 'cause I look like-- - Is he scuba diving? - Yeah. - Last night, Kenzie and I are driving home and we're like, Cash is like, "K, you gotta make me brownies tonight. "K, I really want some brownies." So I say,
fine i will stop at the store and get you some sugar-free brownie mix so we went into walmart okay first mistake don't go into walmart after dark so we go into this walmart and we walk in and there's three girls one of us goes to the bathroom and kinty and i keep walking and the guy comes up behind us and he's like hey ladies and like we turn around like we're kind of like
Kind of scary. He looks very distinct. You can tell what he looks like. Is this a dream? No, this is real. He's got a grill. He's like, how y'all doing? And we're like, walking a little faster. Keep in mind, he's wearing red. It's an important part. Yeah, he's wearing red. So then he goes, right, I'm going to see y'all later. And we were like...
I don't know if they heard that. His name was Ray, and he will see us later. And, like, he, like, he spoke, like, crazy. Like, I think he was on drugs. And so we take a sharp turn. We're like, we're going to lose Ray in the kitchen supplies. So we keep, like, running through the aisles trying to, like, get away from him. And every time we turned our head, he was there. Wait, was it yesterday? Yes, last night. I should have came to shopping with y'all.
y'all. No, you don't want to be followed by a man named Ray in Walmart in a red shirt. Every time we turned our head to like check our surroundings, Ray was there. Okay. I wish I knew Ray. I would have invited him on the pod today. I said about Ray's a nice guy. We have five
leave him. Okay? And Kenzie and I are in the camera equipment grabbing an SD card and we start walking to the brownie mix and guess who we see on our way? Ray. Ray. In a white shirt! But no, but we were in the kitchen supplies when he was following us and then we moved to the camera section which is like halfway across a store. Yeah. Okay? He has no groceries or anything. He's just walking around Walmart. He's just walking around Walmart and so then... But he changed shirts. Yes, he changed his outfit. He changed clothes.
Okay. I didn't think you'd recognize him the second time. That's the point. So then, he had a second chance. Why didn't you just text him? I just saw you, Maverick, I just saw you text Cash. Would you like to share with the group? No. No, I would not. I would not like to share with the group. I would not. Decline the offer. We prefer to talk behind your back when you can't hear.
Anyway, so we, like, kind of go around Walmart. Ray is there. Every time I turn around, Ray is there. And finally, we lose him. I think he left. But then we're, like, Ray is waiting for us in the parking lot. That's what he's doing. He's waiting for us to walk out. So I grab my pepper spray. We check out. And I'm walking in the parking lot like this. Actually, you know, most people are, like, discreet with their weapons. They, like, hold them to the side or something. No, Kate is literally. Come on, Ray. You're screaming at me.
we should just be discreetly getting to the car, right? She's like, come on, Ray! Come get me, Ray! Why is she holding it upside down like a gangster? She's gonna have to spray it like this. Don't!
Don't make me do it. Ray was not getting within 15 feet. No, then one of the girls was like, wait, Kate, make sure it's not pointing towards you. I was like, uh. That would be crazy. Unstoppable now. And we made it to the car and Ray did not get us. No, he did not. But no. Is that the whole story? Yes. Y'all think we're joking. What happened when you got to the car? Because I heard this part and this part made me laugh. Oh, we were looking under the car.
They were all on their hands and knees looking under the car. Not all of us. It would have been freaking hilarious if they looked under the car and raised just... That's like a thing. For those of you who don't know, when you're alone, you should check under the car when you're in a parking lot because bad guys will hide under your car. I had to Google it again because I Googled this before and that's actually never happened to anyone.
No, it has. Yes, it has. It's a fake thing that a girl on TikTok made up. What is? And it just went viral over the last five years. What is? When someone hides under your car and they like slice your ankle so you can't. Yeah, I agree. I mean, it's a very impractical way to kidnap somebody. I know. Get under a car and lay down. Because then to get him, you got to be like, hold on, let me shimmy out of here first.
Well, if they cut your Achilles tendon, this thing right here, you're done for. You're not moving. Yeah. What? I'm moving. You cannot physically walk if your Achilles tendon is small. I hop, and I hop fast. No, no, no. You cannot. All you have to do is get in the car.
Like your door is open. You're just going to step in your car. This dude's under the car and you can run over him. Yeah, like you take him at least three or four seconds to get out of there. Well, whatever. Like one of you guys, I'd love to see one of you guys hide under the couch right here and then like try to kidnap me from that position. You can cut their kiwis. Huh? You cut their kiwis right here. Wow, someone is listening. I do.
Wow. The boys like genuinely never believe anytime we're in danger. They think we're like making it up or exaggerating. They can't just accept that maybe there are bad people in this world that want to hurt you. Or maybe Ray just wanted a friend. No, Ray did not want a friend. Ray would not have changed outfits at Walmart. You know, was Ray special needs and you guys just wanted to say hi and you guys were just running away? No. Are you sure? No.
Do y'all believe that people put things like notes and stuff in the windshield of girls cars? And that's like their ploy. And so as the girls like getting it out, that's when they go attack them. Do y'all believe that? If you were to kidnap a girl, I don't, you don't need to leave a note on there. Like they're just going to grab you. Like, I hate to break it to you, but like, they're just going to be like, I'm kidnapping you. They're not going to be like, I'm going to hide under the car, put a note on top, get ready, like,
They're just going to do it. Have you seen the kidnapping videos? They literally just drive by while they're walking on the sidewalk and just grab them. That's scary. Yeah, I mean, I don't mean to be like the bare bad news here, but... Listen, you should keep your head on a swivel if you're a girl. Yeah, you got to be highly aware. Watch out for notes.
Watch out for those. Especially if you're alone in Target, just like a little girl. That's the other thing. Y'all think somebody's just going to kidnap you in Target? Yes. No, not inside. They follow you in the store and then when you get out. Have y'all not also heard the stories of girls going in Walmart and they go to the bathroom or something alone and people will inject them and it makes you kind of tranquilized? You're just like, eh. And then there's other two girls that have already been kidnapped and they are now like they...
And now they're hauling this other girl out of Walmart y'all have not heard that people No
I just think that you guys think that we're very overdramatic and maybe we are, maybe we are hyper aware, but would you rather us be hyper aware and not get kidnapped or would you rather us be ditzy and not give a crap about our surroundings? And then when four guys run off on us, we're friends with them. We're like, Hey, no, I mean, I'm not saying like, but I'm just saying, I think it's funny how you guys always think you're about to get kidnapped. Like you guys probably think Alex is going to kidnap you. Like he's over there recording you.
No. That man records you every week. Every week. He never knows. In your own home. Oh, wait. You're on a pod. I don't like when you do that. Huh? I don't like when you do that. Okay.
part of my body is freezing right now can i try fan off do you need a hug it is so cold i wish you guys could feel my toes like i even told them i turned it off before hey fun fact oh speaking of hugs uh if you guys watched i don't know what episode it was but it's probably not too long ago um i lit a pile of logs on fire right here yeah um and before that i had
the lighter fluid and gasoline outside and I was running tests to see how much gasoline and how much stuff I needed. And the first time I filled up the gasoline cup like this full and I poured it all out.
The one I did here, the gasoline was... The cup was like this full. Like not even a quarter inch. Not even a quarter... Yeah. And then I filled it up this much for my test outside. And man, y'all should be grateful I tested that. Because that thing went... The house would have been gone. We would have burned down the house. And then actually, I started freaking out outside because I lit it like five feet from our house. And it started spreading in the grass in the park. And I was like...
like oh and so like i run and i grab my my water jug my gallon jug and i poured out and there was like nothing left and i was like oh so i run and i start grabbing hugs from our outdoor refrigerator and i started putting the fire out with hugs oh my god did you say one of the rest of those i don't know what's wrong with you yeah well they're in the grass and then they're like why do you get so stressed out when we do things like light stuff on fire what happened you're gonna start a grass fire in the neighborhood park no i hugged it to death
So here's the other argument me and Kinsey had last night I need to come into the story more. Okay. We're having an argument. I Need to start this
Tensions are high in this household. Fine, you start it and then I will add on. I firmly believe in every relationship, every relationship, every couple. What are you about to say? There is one person in the relationship that is more attractive. And I think females often automatically think it's them. And I think that is a crime.
Against men. And now pause. This got brought about because he was like, honey, honey, if anyone were to get kidnapped, it'd be me. For sure. And so they tell me that that doesn't mean that he thinks he's way prettier than I am. That's his crazy statement. What? Listen. No. Matt.
is obviously a newlywed and like you guys have been together like seven months like I think you still have some like learning to do because yesterday yesterday the way he was talking to Kinsey was insane and I actually I don't know if you heard me I was like don't talk to her like that like he was talking so rude to you what did you say and then I turned around and I said something way worse to you and you laughed and I laughed and it's funny hmm
Well, it's one thing if you go to one extreme and it's obviously it's a joke. We were all three sitting on the beanbag and Kinsey was sitting on the couch downstairs. I said, can you make your dog be quiet? Oh, yeah. Because Stella was like super upset like all day yesterday. We don't really know what was wrong. She's just kind of whiny. And so she had been whining like on and off all day. And Matt turned around and he's like, can you make your dog shut up? Mm-hmm.
That's when I said it that way. That was the joke. And that's when she left. When I said, shut up. I said, can you make your dog be quiet? Or I said, what does your dog want? I said something like that. Well, the way he said it is just not in a very loving husband speaking to wife way. And all I said was that may be your opinion. Politely stayed the brick out of my relationship because she, she did not take it that way. Okay.
Why did you snap? I can't even snap. That was the, you just lost every aura point you possibly could. No, I tried so hard. Are you, we gotta, no, pause. We're not gonna pretend like that. No, listen. Politely stay out of my relationship. Bro. What was that? What was that? I never want Kinsey to, I, because I. Please put that in the intro. That was freaking hilarious. Politely stay out of my relationship.
But I couldn't snap, so it was even worse. There was times when Cash spoke to me like that, and it hurt my feelings. And I just want to make sure Kinsey's feelings don't get hurt. Thank you. I appreciate that. Look at her laughing at you. No, I'm laughing at you because you look like a fool. She's like, I'm not like you, Kate. My feelings don't get hurt. Well, if you want me to never say anything to him, I will keep my mouth shut. No. I quite enjoy y'all yelling at Maverick.
- Yeah, yeah. - See, that's toxic too. Y'all see that? That's real toxic. - Well, I think the main thing is that you started it. - I didn't start anything. - Wait, there's no problem. - He wasn't saying that you were severely congested. - Let's get back to the issue at hand. - Wait, hold on. Harper wanted to say something. Y'all always interrupting her. - What the heck is that chocolate thing?
This? What chocolate? The brownie? That'd be Maverick's brownie from last night. Oh. Do you want it? Do you like it? No, I don't want it. I just... It's from last night. Please, I don't want that. I really don't... Oh. See, like, there is a trash can up here. Do you want it? No. Not... No. It was really good. I'm gonna make it better. Smartie dust? Yeah. Ew. I love Smarties. That's all you right there. I love Smarties so much. Smartie brownie. Wait, guys, look. Smarties kind of look like drugs. Every time you say that, I get nervous. Oh, ah!
Wow. Wait, did you ever see those videos, Harper? These were big when I was in like junior high, where people would take like ham or bologna or something and they'd go and it would like suck down their throat. And then they would cough it back up. What? Like they want a snack during class? No, no, no. Well, we did this like at home, not in school. But my friend... Are you okay? Why? No! Are those things in your way? Yes! Really thought you were going to hit the microphone. Really had me scared.
That's sharp, I don't like that. Back to the issue at hand. Okay. Is it good? - It's boneless. - It's just a horse now. There we go. All right, sorry. Now I can actually sit properly. - Like a lady. - Okay, so here was my question to you guys. Which one of you honestly is the more attractive person in the relationship and more likely to get kidnapped?
I would have to say my boo thing. Because right now, I don't think anybody would want to kidnap me looking like this. Kate, go ahead. Who's your boo thing? You'll have to find out. Okay. Kate, go ahead and answer. I think more likely to get kidnapped is probably me because I physically could not stop it from happening. Well, that's a lie, actually. I could stop it.
If any of y'all wanted a kidnappy, I'd just stalk you on the spot. I'd take that back. Don't even attempt. Have you got any ideas? I've stopped five of them before. I sure have. There was a recent rating come up to us in the parking lot last night. It was because I was ready. But anyways. Are you asking who we think the more attractive person is? Yeah, that's more what I'm getting at. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, no. No.
I don't want to say it because it's so cringy, but I do look at him every single day and I'm like, oh. When he's not acting weird, because he acts normal, believe it or not. Cash is a normal person. What is that? See, that's insulting to me, actually. No, you just act. You make yourself so icky on social media, but he doesn't act like that. What do you mean he doesn't act like that? Icky on social media? What? When you fart in the microphone. I would argue that he's worse off camera. That's like I don't fart.
don't fart in everyone's faces and pull down my pants and fart on everyone okay okay i guess you're really selling yourself i guess i guess it's not social media i feel like cash has two personalities he has this like being a normal person and then he acts like that and it's usually like last night he'd been playing video games with all the guys yeah and then he comes into the room i don't know if you can say that i'm not saying what you did what
What? I'm not saying what you did or said. Please say, can we bleep it? I got it. I'll tell you after. Just cut it. Just cut it out. It is so true that he has two different personalities, though. All my friends and family, the first time meeting Cas, they were like, he never speaks. Yes, he's like a dud. A dud?
None of y'all will believe this, but the amount of people that I've told Maverick and everyone here been like, is your brother really shy? Like he just doesn't talk. Or does he not like me? Did I make him mad? I'm like, no, he's just Hollywood. He doesn't talk to you unless you have followers. No, the thing is, I just either care to talk to people or I don't. And I don't talk to you. And that's based off your follower count. If I don't talk to you,
Then there's good news for you. I don't want to talk to you. That is good news for you. That is just flat out how it is. When I go to basketball...
Right? I go there to play basketball. If my friends come, if Maverick and Alex and my friends come, I will talk to them. If I'm just playing with random people at the court, I don't care to talk to them. I'm here to play basketball. Okay? If I'm getting a haircut, I'm going to put my AirPods in and get my work done. I don't care to talk to the hair lady about what Teresa said yesterday. Really? No. Okay, well...
What did Cash do last night that we have to bleep? Well, I'm not saying what he did, but he comes in and he makes a joke that is like not a joke you should make to your wife at all. Let's hear it. Because she doesn't appreciate it. Can we hear it? No, because we're going to have to bleep it. That's fine. I'm not... No. That's fine. Completely fine. It's totally fine. Because we're going to hear it. It's totally fine. I'm not saying... I'll tell you guys after. Cash, say it. Say it. All you got to know is...
No, okay. Well, I was no and that might have to be bleeped. That should be yeah, that should be bleeped Oh, yeah, that's bleeped for sure. Oh, sorry. That's bleeped. Did you ask her to? I didn't now that's all I'm saying. That is all I'm saying and we're not saying anything else.
But you get the idea of what a joke was. Can you just cut that whole section out? I think I understand. Do you understand? No. No, it's fine. Okay. Are we going to cut this whole section? No, no, we're not going to cut the whole section. We just got to bleep my word. Okay, we're just bleeping my word. Okay. Why'd you do that? What? My word. Wait, bleep the word. No. We already bleeped the word. Pretty much, you get the gist of the joke. It was inappropriate, and it's not a joke that a man makes to his wife. Wait, I didn't get the gist. I wasn't even listening. Okay.
I think anyone got it, Kate. Oh. Yeah. Why do y'all say that word? Why? It's weird. It's so weird. Wait. Are we talking about the same thing that happened last night? Yeah. What are you thinking about? Yeah, I want to know. I'll pass it down. No. It's like the phone game. That's how words get twisted. That's how words get twisted. That's how words get at the end. Okay.
Oh, I can't say that to you. Unfortunately. I just hate being a minor. I want to know what it is. We should restart the phone game. Can't you say something again?
Anything at all? We're just going to leave this off? We don't know who the prettier person is? Oh, yeah. I think Kenzie's the prettier one. Kate, answer. See, that's what I'm saying. I think Cash. I do. I know it sounds weird. You're probably like, why would... Actually, sometimes I get tagged in, like, thirst edits of Cash. And they're very bad. And it's when he was doing his dance. I do my little dancey dance. I put on my pantsy pants. I actually, I also... Funny you say that. I saw another...
I don't know. Never mind. No one's going to care. Moving on. Okay. Well, my personal opinion is...
I would say 99.9% of the time the woman is more attractive. Really? I always think women are more attractive than men. Yeah, I look at a man and I'm like, hmm, that's interesting. Who would be attracted to that? Yeah, who would be attracted to that? Like, not even like you specifically, Mav, but like specifically you. Oh, wow. No, but I look at myself and I'm like, now why would they choose me over another woman? Hmm. What?
Why are they choosing me over another man? No, he said woman. No, I meant woman. Oh, what the? It's just, I'm sorry, guys are smelly. Yep. We fart. Ew. We grow facial hair. Yep. We do too. We just aren't, I just don't get the appeal, honestly. Yeah. Like, for some reason, all those things I just named, and the women go, ooh.
No, no, no. They fart, they smell. That's why we try to change you. That's why I try to change you. I say shower three times a day. I say make sure you put cologne on because I don't want to smell your natural scent. Wow. Maybe you should try my stride. That's why no one follows me around in stores. What? That was gross. In fact, normally when I walk into the aisle, everyone leaves the aisle.
Wow That's a crazy effect you have one time we did do that I mean math from a little prank video Yep and he was like hide the camera and I'd walk next to someone at Walmart and I'd play a fart noise on my phone and I'd be like Excuse you Speaking of stalkers, can we talk about your soccer or whatever? I
I can't tell you're pointing at me. No, her. I mean, I guess we could. Okay, because this stalker was actually crazy. This is like a whole podcast episode, I feel like. No, no, no, no. She should be here to tell it too, I feel. Well, she's not here today. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Time out, time out. It's a real stalker. You guys actually have a real stalker story that you've never told us? Yeah. It just, what, never came up in conversation? It was years of stalking too.
- Oh, this is so good. - Yeah, so I think you should continue. - I need to get some popcorn. - No, I feel like her, would your sister come on and say it? - Yeah. - No, no, no, no, we need to talk about it now. - I feel like it would be better if her sister came on, right? - Nope. - Nope. - Yeah, yeah, let's talk about it now. - Yeah. - I can't wait. - Okay, I'm gonna try to make it super quick. - I can't believe you just-- - Wait, wait, wait, I got it, I got it. You just impersonate your sister right now. Oh, perfect. - No. - We'll pretend you're her, just talk as her. - I'll be the stalker. - Hey, JC.
No. No, no, no. We're not acting it out? Okay. Okay, I'm just going to hit main bullet points. Okay, so it happened whenever she was in eighth grade. Oh. Oh, my God. But say the story as her. Like, talk as her. Like, I. I'm not going to say I. Yeah, say I, because it's way better for the intro. That would be confusing, because then I'm going to be like, is it Kenzie? Is it Jacey? It's way better for the intro if you say I. Oh, yeah, true. Say I. So you're Jacey now.
Hi, J.C. Hi, J.C. Close your eyes and imagine J.C. now. Do I have to? Yes, you have to. I'll get you a name tag if you'd like. Would your sister be upset if you did that? No, she likes it when Kinsey tries to act like her. Oh, perfect. Okay, let's hear it. J.C., tell me about your stalker. It started when I was in eighth grade. Okay, I can't do it. It started in eighth grade. Okay. Okay. And you're getting it.
You sound just like JC. Keep going. Thank you. Okay. For Valentine's Day, there was a lion. So we're the Livingston Lions. Yeah. And there was a lion with like candy and chocolate. It was cute with a little note. And it was like, happy Valentine's Day from your secret admirer on our front porch. Okay. Okay.
So that was eighth grade. The same thing happens freshman year. And so she's like asking all these people in her grade, hey, is it you? Is it you? Like trying to figure out who her secret admirer is because this person is dedicated two years in a row. I mean, that's why they're called a secret admirer. Okay. Admire in secret. That's kind of creepy. That's kind of stalker. Very stalkerish.
So she's like accusing all these people, just joking around about it. And year three comes. She's now a sophomore.
and she says or it's valentine's day and we have this little dog his name is coda he's like literally this big but he yaps at everything like a leaf could blow at the front door and he's sprinting to the front door and he's gonna start screaming his head off okay well the night before valentine's day everything is calm we're having valentine's eve it's valentine's eve and um
- Why do you even have to say that? - Yeah, you just messed everything up. - Oh, sorry. - Messed up her flow. - My flow is all messed. - No, I'm actually interested in this. - Me too. - Yeah, keep going, keep going. - It's like one of the few times I'm interested in a story on here, man. - Okay, anyways, so sophomore year, this is the third year in a row, Valentine's Eve, as Cash says.
Everything is quiet. Nothing happens. We eat dinner. We go to bed. The next morning, JC walks outside. Okay, wait. Time out. Sorry. I really don't want to interrupt you. Nobody got that? It was Valentine's Eve. Everything was quiet and nothing happened. Oh, yeah. It was Christmas Eve. It's not that funny. So far, this stalker story is way better than your stalker story about Ray. That was our stalker story, first of all. Thank you. Sorry. I'm not going to talk. We're zipping. Go ahead. Throw the key. I can't do that. Ah.
You gotta keep the key? Yeah. Okay. Anyways, she wakes up and she sees this and she's like, oh my gosh, a third year in a row? Like, this guy really likes me. This is insane. Okay. Okay.
We're going to fast forward a whole other year. Okay. So now she's a junior. Oh my gosh. Four years. Now she's a junior. Okay. And I'm going to try to hit all the bullet points, but I don't know if I'm going to hit them all. Oh, the point of me saying... You have time. Yes. And I'm interested. The point of me talking about the dog was that sophomore year, whenever he did it at nighttime, he like put this thing on the porch because...
Early the next morning, we started school at 7 a.m., so we had to leave at 6.30, and it was already there. But the dog never made a noise, which was creepy. He was sneaking. Did he kill the dog? No, the dog was still there. But it was just really creepy because that dog knew when somebody was at the front door all the time. Oh, my gosh. And anyways, so junior year comes around, okay?
And poor little Koda is dead now, so it doesn't matter. But... Okay, well... Yeah, that was a little morbid. Rest in peace, Koda. Anyways, so Jacey gets this follow request, and all of her friends have sworn up and down. They're like, no, Jacey, we're not messing with you at all. This is a serious thing. That is a funny prank to pull on your friend for five years. Five years. So we're on year four now, because it's her junior year. Jacey gets this follow request on Instagram, and...
It says, like, check your front yard or something like that. The Instagram name. Oh. So she's like, what the heck? The Instagram name is check your front yard? Yeah. So this person made the account. Yeah.
yeah and so she walks outside and she's like what is going on that's actually terrifying okay wait go so she's like this is kind of weird but she like looks outside for the whatever she's looking for and also it's valentine's day okay and it's after school oh my gosh and so she goes back in the house she's like well that was weird my dad comes back in like two hours later and is like
Hey, there's like a little toy truck in the yard and I almost hit it, but there's a note on it and it says JC. And then like within like seconds. Yeah, a toy truck. Within seconds, JC gets a DM from that Instagram and it says, hurry, it's about to rain.
And so she's like, what the heck? So she walks outside to this toy truck and it starts sprinkling, which is freaking crazy. And she picks it up and she's not standing there. She's like, somebody is watching me right now. She like takes it inside and she like checks it out. She's like, are there cameras on this thing? This is insane. But she opens a little note and it's like your secret admirer. I love you. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it says, sorry, this will be like the last year that you get a note. And she was like, okay, that's freaking weird, but all right.
So another year goes by. Now she's a senior. Okay. Going on five years. Going on five years. Dude, by this year, I'd have to be staked out at like 4 a.m. outside the house waiting on Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day would be my favorite holiday. Me and my boys would be all in tree stands waiting. Mogi and Ben. The toy truck is arriving. Truck is in yard.
So her senior year gets another one. And it says something like, I've loved you forever. You'll always be my favorite girl or something weird like that. And it says, like, I'll see you never. Like, this is for real. Like, this is it. That's the last one. This is insane. Yeah. So what is that? Year five? Oh, my gosh. So she goes to college the next year.
And she's like, okay, well, nothing is going to happen, right? And she comes back home from College Station because she went to A&M, like, frequently to see family, you know? And one time she was in town and that same Instagram handle DM'd her again. Oh, okay.
Oh my gosh. Check your front yard? No. It wasn't Valentine's Day anymore, okay? And it says, like, I would say, please meet me at whatever the church name was. I'd really love to meet you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Did she do it? What?
Well, she shows me my mom, and my mom's like, absolutely not. If somebody wants to meet you, they can meet you at our church on Sunday where your family is. We know you're safe. Even if this is just like crush, it's kind of weird that they haven't said anything about it. So we go to our church that morning, okay? And JC walks in, sits down. We're all sitting there. And this really, really tall guy, I don't know if I should describe him. It's fine. No, it's fine. He's like...
slender man, tall and skinny and just like, just kind of looks interesting, but comes and sits next to her. And she's like, okay, doesn't think twice about it. And after the service, he like looks at her. Doesn't say a word, just like stares at her. And she's like, can I help you? And he was like, my name is blah, blah, blah. And she was like,
oh, okay, nice to meet you. Like, I'm glad you're at church. And he was like, I've been sending you all these messages and stuff. She has no clue who this guy is. And she's like, oh, okay, well, I appreciate that. And obviously not interested at all. This guy's really creepy.
And he didn't say anything. He just kind of stares at her. And my dad is like losing his mind at the moment because he's like, who the heck is this dude? Like been messaging. This guy is taller than me. No, literally this guy is like the size of the light. That's not really, but he was tall. Yeah. Okay. And so it's time to leave. And he asked JC, he's like, would you like to go to lunch? Yeah.
And she's like, oh, yeah, I really appreciate that. But like we already had lunch plans, which we didn't. Yeah. So we leave. Everything is. Oh, no, wait, not yet. We're about to leave. OK. And our youth pastor walks up to my mom and dad and pulls them aside. And it's like, hey, this is completely your business. Like you can do what you want. I know like your daughter is.
like y'all's responsibility and I have no say so but just as JC's old youth pastor I would really like to like warn you a few things like I've heard a few things about this guy and it's not great but like again like y'all know what y'all are doing my dad was like I have no clue who that kid is like what are you talking about so he goes on to say well I've heard some not so great things but this family at the church has been housing him for a little while maybe you should talk to them
And so my dad's like, okay. Well, later on, they have a conversation with this couple at the church. And so this guy, we'll call him X. X has been staying at their house for a few years, okay? And he's about four or five years older than J.C. Was Slender Man his ex? Yes. Okay, okay, okay. Yes.
And he's been staying at this couple's house. And he's been having these mental episodes where he'll look at things or see things. If the chair at the dinner table is turned a certain way, he might think that that means something about the time of the day and that you might be sending him a message. He's having some mental episodes. He's not all right in the head. Oh my gosh. And he's like me. And they said one of the last straws for them was that
One day, maybe there was change on the table or something. You know how people write things on dollar bills and they just get passed around? You don't know where it comes from? Well, apparently there was something written on the dollar bill and the change section on the table. And so the couple goes to sleep that night and they wake up at like 3 in the morning and X is standing over the wife and just staring at her in the middle of the night in their bedroom.
And so the husband... Hold on. That's my biggest nightmare is waking up to someone just like... Yeah.
That's like, dude, I feel like you're lucky to be alive. If someone is standing right there, that's terrifying. That's scary. So my wife like shakes the husband up. She's like, um, and he's like, he gets up and he's like, what are you doing in here? Like, this is like, you're not allowed to come in this room. What are you doing? And then he like, so seriously and honestly, like is not trying to be rude at all. He's like, no, she told me to come in here.
And she was like, no, I didn't. It's three in the morning. Like go to bed. And he was like, no, I saw it on the change on the table. You told me to come in here at 3 a.m. And like, he told them as if it was like a factual statement and like why he thought all those things. And they were like, no. And so that was the last straw for them. Apparently there were other things that had happened before that, but that was it. So he got kicked out after that. Anyways, long story short towards the end, um,
Jacey apparently did meet this guy. So there's this thing called Tiny Tots Basketball, which is like Little League Basketball. She met him in Little League? No, no, no. Met him in Tiny Tots? No, no, no. My little sister and brother are four years younger than us and five years younger than Jacey. And so they were in Tiny Tots Basketball when Jacey was in eighth grade. So they're in like fourth grade and fifth grade. And he was a senior in high school and he was coaching them a lot.
Oh, my gosh. And J.C., as an eighth grader, and me as a seventh grader, would go watch this. So this guy's like five or six years older than J.C. Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. Would go watch, obviously, our little brother and sister's tiny tots basketball game. And he, as the coach, I guess, was drawn towards J.C. as an eighth grader. I don't know. That's sad. Oh, my gosh. So that's when it all started. But so J.C. would come into town every now and again, back to...
Okay. After the whole church scenario thing happened, every time JC would come in from college, she would get either a DM message or some text message from a random phone number, or he would leave like notes in her mailbox. But every single message, it was like he was having a conversation with her.
that she had already responded to. Like, he would start it off with, fine, we hunt, or, like, something like that. Like, he was responding to something that she said. But she never texted him. She's never texted him. But in his head, they're having conversations. Oh. But he always knew when she was back in town because he would only leave a message whenever she came back to town. And she lives two and a half hours away at college, so she was like, oh, he has to have, like, a tracker on my car or something. And...
Eventually, Daisy got a different car, so that stopped happening. But not because of that. Not because of that. She just had to get a different car, so it stopped happening. Dude, whoever bought that car is like, why did you get these notes? Do you think he actually had a tracker on the car? He probably did. Wow. That's crazy. But...
I'm not sure how much I can share about what my dad did, but this guy could not hold a job. He kept having multiple different jobs. X? Yes, X. And so my dad, though, but it's not a big town. Like, if you go eat dinner somewhere, you're going to see somebody as a waiter. Right. So he pulled this guy...
out of a restaurant one time and was basically like, if you touch my daughter again, like there'll be consequences, but probably a lot other words and things were used. But yeah, while this guy's at work, can you imagine like just being pulled out of the restaurant while you're at work and be like, yeah,
um anyway so after that he didn't really talk to jc too much and because she had a different car and he didn't really know where she was and when she was but there were other people who had started filing police reports on him and things just like got worse and worse like
technically the police can't arrest you if you're on somebody's property delivering a pizza, obviously. Right. But, and they can't really arrest you if you like hold the door. But if you break in, then they can get you for breaking and entering. But if you don't actually touch somebody, then you can't be arrested for like cause of murder or like. Sure. Things like that. So things slowly started progressing for him and he's like put himself in and out of minstrel institutions and everything and.
That's pretty much it. Oh, my gosh. Wait, wait. So how did it end? JC did get a restraining order on him, but he's still in and out of mental institutions and everything. He doesn't ever talk to JC anymore, though. Wow. So is he still in the hometown now? Mm-hmm.
So he still lives in the hometown with JC? No. Oh, JC lives there now? Oh my goodness. So this guy is like, he's just always there. That's terrifying. At least she has a husband now. That's really scary. That's terrifying.
Well, there's that. Yeah. Yeah, that's insane. Like, I just can't wrap my mind around that. That was one of the most interesting stories that we've ever told on this podcast, and I don't know how you guys just now brought this up. I know the retention rate was probably so high. There's so much I'm leaving out, too. There's just not enough time. Oh, my gosh. Like, I don't know how you guys just now brought this up. Like, you guys haven't even told me this ever off the podcast. I know. Like, this has never come up in conversation. And this is, like, the first thing I would tell people.
I have actually lots of stories. Wow. I just never tell them. Oh my goodness. Gosh. That's insane. If that happened to Kate, Kate already- Oh, Jace is going through it. She's pretty scared. We all- Yeah, but Jace is kind of a tough girl. You know? No offense, Kate. What are you trying to say? But you cried over a tick. Oh, I mean, I'd shoot him. Yeah. If that's all I could shoot him.
That's crazy. I so can't believe that. No, I'm telling you, I would not want to stalk Kate. She would, too. Even if the guy's just like, hey, I just stalked. Bam! Oh, my gosh. It was a thing when we first moved in here. Everyone knew not to, like, try to sneak in the house and scare me. Guys, I'm talking, it was a thing when I would come home. I'd be like, Kate, it's me.
Okay? I'm walking into the house. No, seriously. And Alex would do it for me. I'd come home. Yes, yes. We came back. One time, we come back from the casino. We open the door and a light goes. Hey.
And it's like beep, beep, beep. And we're like, what the? It's literally like you walk into a yard and like- There's a trap set everywhere. Like the spotlight shines on you. You ever seen Home Alone? That's what happens to this place when we leave. Oh gosh. Listen, there's an explanation for that. Because Cash and Maverick and all the guys, when they're here, I'm fine. But this night, they were going to the casino and they were driving like an
hour away they had a free night at the casino so they were gonna like stay the night there and my friend is like hey the ac is out of my house can i like come stay over and i was like this is perfect the guys are leaving yes come stay over so i didn't want to sleep in my bedroom alone because i was like scared and so my friend and i were sleeping in the guest bedroom together and i had told her like i just got these security cameras and i was like we'll be fine i'm gonna set these up and like that's even more crazy there's two of you and y'all set up all these security cameras i was telling
I was telling... First of all, you guys act like it's absolutely... Hey, safety first. Yes, you guys act like it's insane. Our address is out there. People know where we live. Oh, no. He's scared. Oh, me. Can we... Can we... No, no, don't say that. We walked in the door and... Yeah, you cannot say that. What? No, then I'll tell you later. It's... Well, we can bleep it and just get her reaction. No, no, no. No, no, no. Okay. But when we walked in the door this night, the light shined on us like... And then the camera starts making noises. It's like...
Oh my gosh, yeah, I've come in and I'm like and she's in the kitchen and there's just a gun sitting next to her I'm like, okay Can you are you allowed to say that I
Yeah, yeah, you say it. Kate walks around the house strapped when no one's there. I sure do. Because we have millions of followers and people know where we live. And if you try to hurt me, I'm going... Okay.
Actually, I think that's fine if she's in her own home and you come in and you're trying to do it. I'm just imagining the nine-year-old that's watching this on their television with their parents sitting there and it's just Kate. I will... Okay, yes. Maybe the nine-year-old's like... It needs bleeped, probably. No, no, you don't have to bleep it. I mean, that is a little... I mean, most of our audiences... If you just say... If you bleep out that word... Don't know how to bleep, but add a little...
- Okay, but it's gonna-- - I would. - Listen, y'all need to understand when y'all bleep some things, it makes it sound worse. - Yeah, true, that's true. - Because if she's like, "I will bleep you," like what the heck could that mean?
like sometimes i'll bleep out harper's words and i'm like what did she just what did he say like yeah no you don't gotta bleep that it's fine yeah no i i will bleep you i that honestly might be one of the craziest stories we've ever told on the pod that was a good story and like just one of the most like life-threatening dangerous things that's ever happened yeah normally we just joke around but that was actually serious wow
Wow, I should tell stories more often. Kansas is like, I got a list of stories that are life-threatening. Wait, I've got three already. My house caught on fire twice and somebody broke in. So I have three more episodes for you. Somebody broke into your house?
It was a really scarring moment. See, and that's why. I was about to say that's like my dream, but I don't mean that like that. It's obviously not Kate's dream. It's not my dream. It's just, you know, for some reason, I feel like if somebody broke into my house, it's like one of those moments where it's like. Were you going to be Batman for a second? Yeah, me and Matt just like did to him to the floor. And it's like, yeah, you can call the cops if you want, but we already got the guy. And like, yeah, I don't know.
or kate will just if you come that is what probably would happen me and matt would be like finally got yeah i'm not crazy i promise i don't i don't like it but i will not die like what i in reality i had pepper spray last night but like you know pepper spray doesn't do as much damage i just still can't believe this guy stalked you for five years
or jc stocks jc for five years six six years that's insane that is like that's dedication that is a next level stalker going on in his head yeah no but i get it like one year or two years but stalking someone for six years six years is insane she was in eighth grade that's insane
Well, alright guys, thank you so much for watching this episode. Now that we scared everyone. Well, okay, actually, I'm being so serious, I don't want to scare anyone, just the people that want to hurt me. I wasn't even talking about you, I was talking about the stalker situation. Oh, you guys are all probably fine. Like, don't stress, you know, live life. Thank you so much for watching this episode. We'll see you guys next time. Peace out, bro.