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Ep. 1602 - Trump Just Forced The South African President To Acknowledge The White Genocide

2025/5/22
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President Trump directly confronts South African President Cyril Ramaphosa about the alleged genocide of white farmers. Trump presents evidence, including firsthand accounts and video footage, contradicting Ramaphosa's claims. The corporate media's biased coverage and denial of the situation are highlighted.
  • President Trump accuses Ramaphosa of overseeing a white genocide in South Africa.
  • Trump presents evidence including firsthand accounts from a white golfer whose family has been targeted and video footage of South African politicians openly calling for the murder of white farmers.
  • The corporate media largely ignores or downplays the evidence presented by Trump, accusing him of spreading false claims.

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Ever since the death of Nelson Mandela, it's fair to call Cyril Ramaphosa one of the few surviving founding fathers of post-apartheid South Africa. He helped to write the country's new constitution, which would supposedly usher in a new era of prosperity and equality. He also oversaw the transition to the new government.

And as South Africa descended into lawlessness and squalor over the ensuing 30 years, Ramaphosa gradually accumulated more wealth and power until he finally became the country's president in 2018. He's currently worth something like half a billion dollars, even as the vast majority of South Africans now live in extreme poverty.

What this means is that Ramaphosa is the personification of South Africa's post-colonial experiment. When he drafted the new constitution, he presumably did not foresee that by 2025, the country would have the single highest unemployment rate of any country in the world at 40%. He certainly didn't tell anyone that he eventually planned to sign new laws that would disenfranchise and rob white farmers or that white people would be systematically slaughtered in their homes.

But all that has happened. And yet for all this time, no one and certainly no world leader has held this deranged despot accountable for any of that. Instead, it's been something of a tradition in Washington to pretend that South Africa is somehow a great ally to the United States and to treat Ramaphosa as royalty, as Joe Biden did a few years ago. But that tradition came to a very abrupt end yesterday in the Oval Office when Donald Trump did something that no other political figure has ever done. He told Ramaphosa to his face,

in the most public form imaginable, that he's a fraud who is overseeing a white genocide. And in the process, Trump took a blowtorch to a mythology that pretty much every politician from both parties has been desperate to uphold for several decades. Now, in order to understand the importance of what Donald Trump communicated here, you have to first see exactly how he communicated it. First, of course, Ramaphosa asked the United States for money,

Yeah, because that's any visiting dignitary now. That's just that's what they do. They come hat in hand as beggars asking for our money. And in this case, he's done that because he's he's run his country into the ground and they can't even feed themselves anymore.

Then a reporter asked a patronizing question about what it would take for Trump to stop repeating supposedly false claims about white genocide in South Africa. In other words, the reporter is basically calling Trump a liar and asking him what it would take for him to stop lying. And here's how that went. Our main, main real reason for being here is to foster trade and investment so that we are able to grow our economy,

your support and so that we are also able to address all these societal problems because criminality thrives when people are unemployed, when they have no other hope to eke out a living. So that is what we need to resolve. President, this time what will it take for you to be convinced that there is no white genocide in South Africa?

Well, I can answer that for the president. It's for him. No, seriously. I'd rather have him answer. I'd rather answer that. My president will respond to you. Thank you, Mr. President. It will take President Trump listening to the voices of South Africans, some of whom are his good friends. So...

After begging for cash, Ramaphosa validates what the reporter is saying, patronizes, is being patronizing to the president of the United States, to our president. He says Donald Trump needs to listen to the people of South Africa in order to stop lying about the alleged genocide of white people. Probably the most obnoxious answer that he could have come up with, especially after dozens of South Africans just fled the country in fear of their lives.

But Trump was prepared for it. First of all, Trump asked one of the white golfers that Ramaphosa brought with him. This is a two-time U.S. Open winner named Ratif Ghuson what the situation was like in South Africa. And the golfer responded that his father's friends who own farms have been murdered and the farms are constantly being torched. Watch. I grew up in an area in South Africa that isn't farmland.

area of Polokwani. And there is some issues up there, obviously. My dad was a property developer as well as a part-time farmer. And yeah, some of these buddy farmers got killed. The farm is still going. My brother's running. But it's a constant battle with farms trying to get, they're trying to burn the farms down to chase you away. So it is a concern to try and

make a living as a farmer and at the end they, you know, without farmers there's no food on the plate. So we need, we need the farmers to produce the food. He wouldn't do it, he wouldn't even want to do what you're doing. They love farming, they don't want to leave. But it's a, it's a struggle. Yeah and, you know, food, food and fresh water is the most important thing in life. You know, about those two things you can't survive. How is the water there? The water's great, obviously, um,

All the water comes out of the borehole, out of ground for us. But yeah, it is a battle to get the water out sometimes when all the equipment gets stolen all the time that you're trying to get the water out. So does your family and your brother, do they feel safe on the farm? They live behind electric fences, you know, try and be at night safe. But it is constant whenever you leave that something could happen.

You know, both of them have been attacked in their houses. My mom's been attacked in her house when she was 80. So it is difficult. So this is a pretty extraordinary moment because, keep in mind, this is one of the golfers that the president of South Africa brought to the Oval Office as part of the South Africa's delegation, hoping he'd neutralize the supposedly fake narrative, quote unquote, about white genocide.

This is one of the people that the president of South Africa demanded obnoxiously that Trump listen to. He said, all you do is listen to these people. And then it's like this is essentially a witness for the defense, you know, basically. And this is what he says. So it didn't exactly go as planned, which probably tells you something about the level of planning that South Africa's government is capable of.

And things only got worse from there as Trump dimmed the lights in the Oval Office and played a tape of South African politicians openly calling for the murders of white farmers. In other words, Trump once again called Ramaphosa's bluff. He listened to the calls for genocide coming from South Africans and he made Ramaphosa and the rest of the world listen to it as well. And as you watch this, notice the expression on the South African president's face as he genuinely cannot believe what's happening. Watch.

It has to be responded to. Let me see the articles please, if you would. And turn the lights down, turn the lights down and just put this on, it's right behind you. Johan. There's nothing this Parliament can do, with or without you, people are going to occupy land. We require no permission from you, from the president, from no one.

We don't care, we can do whatever we want to do. Who are you to tell us whether we can occupy land or not? We are going to occupy land? A revolution demands that at some point there must be killing because the killing is part of a revolutionary act. To kill, namaza, kill the poor, the farmer, kill the poor, the farmer,

Look, these are articles over the last few days. Death of people. Death. Death. Death. Horrible death. Death. I don't know. To pick anyone, white South Africans are fleeing because of the violence and racist laws, and this is all...

I mean, I'll give these to you. So when you when you say, what would I like to do? I don't know what to do. Look at this white South African couple say that they were attacked violently. Well, I could do that. Look, here's burial sites all over the place. These are all white farmers that are being buried. So just I mean, it's an incredible moment. Again, remember, the South African president, what queued this up perfectly was,

And you could not have scripted it any better where the South African president said, well, what Trump needs to do is just listen. And so then Trump says, OK, we'll listen. Yeah, let's do that. Hey, what do you think? Let's all listen. Let's all just listen for a moment. Now, if you have listened to this show or been active on social media over the past year or so, then you've seen or heard most of those clips.

that we just saw there or heard. And you've heard stories like the ones that Trump just cited. And that's because in South Africa, black politicians have openly called for genocide for many years now. White farmers have been tortured in their homes for decades in attacks that are clearly racially motivated. And instead of stopping the carnage, the government has just passed a law allowing the government to seize land from white people without compensating them. All this has been known for a long time.

But in their coverage of this Oval Office meeting, the corporate press pretended to be surprised by this footage from South Africa. So before we go back to the Oval Office incident yesterday, let's take a brief look at that coverage. So here's ABC, for example. And watch as they deliberately give the impression that they had never seen anything like this footage before.

There was a striking moment when a reporter asked President Trump, what would it take for you to believe that there are not these, not genocide being committed toward these white farmers? And the South African president, Terry, actually jumped in and he said that it would take President Trump's friends, some of whom he brought, it would take

President Trump listening to them to understand that what he believes is untrue. And just to point out as well that President Trump, ever the producer in chief, he asked the team to dim the lights at one point, rolled the video to try and bolster his claims. You could see that the South African president during that moment was visibly surprised. And at one point said he didn't know where these videos were coming from. He hadn't seen them. We do not know the source, Terry, of the videos that were played.

We do not know the source of the videos. Pretty extraordinary. I mean, there's only two explanations for how that reporter could make a statement like that. Either she's monumentally lazy and she's confessing that no one at ABC News is capable of verifying the authenticity of footage that's been available on the Internet for years, or she's deliberately lying to ABC's viewers and trying to get them to believe that the footage might be fake.

Those are the options. And if anyone at ABC News was actually interested in the truth about what's happening in South Africa, they tell their audience that, yes, the footage is real. And the genocide of white people is something that they are openly encouraging over there. Now, for his part, after Trump played the footage in the Oval Office, Ray Mofosa offered this response. And as you listen to this, see if you can spot the very familiar sleight of hand trick that he uses. Watch.

Let me clarify that because what you saw, the speeches that were being made, one, that is not government policy. We have a multi-party democracy in South Africa that allows people to express themselves, political parties to adhere to various policies,

And in many cases, or in some cases, those policies do not go along with government policy. Our government policy is completely, completely against what he was saying, even in the parliament. And they're a small minority party.

which is allowed to exist in terms of our constitution. But you do allow them to take land. No, no, no, no. You do allow them to take land. Nobody can take land. And then when they take the land, they kill the white farmer. And when they kill the white farmer, nothing happens to them. No. There is quite... Nothing happens to them. There is criminality in our country. People who do get killed, unfortunately, through criminal activity, are not only white people.

The majority of them are black people. And we have now utilized- The farmers are not black. I don't say that's good or bad, but the farmers are not black. First of all, he's right that some of the clips show politicians from minority parties in South Africa. That's true. It's not very reassuring, though, for two reasons. First of all, these minority parties are filling stadiums with tens of thousands of people chanting about murdering white farmers.

So we're not talking about one fringe politician here. And of course, if it was the reverse, if it was a stadium full of white people chanting, kill the black people, thousands of people saying that, nobody would be reassured by saying, oh, that's just a minority party. So this is a very common sentiment in South Africa. And secondly, as Trump pointed out, the government of South Africa has just signed legislation that calls for white people to lose their homes and their farms without any form of compensation whatsoever.

That's a pretty good indication that indeed the government is aiding and abetting the ongoing genocide. Now, Ramaphosa had no answer to that. Instead, he simply pointed out that in South Africa, the majority of people who die are black. It's one of those lines that only works if you're a race-obsessed, illiterate moron who doesn't understand the concept of per capita, which of course describes most South African leaders. So maybe the talking point works there, but it doesn't work when you're dealing with intelligent people because intelligent people recognize that

the significance of the fact that over 80% of the population of South Africa is black. So obviously, most of the people who are killed in South Africa are going to be black. Nobody's disputing that. The relevant question is whether white people, particularly white farmers, are being targeted because of their skin color and whether they're dying at a rate that's higher than black people, given that they're only something like 6% of the population. And

Of course, no one in South Africa's government wants to address those questions because they know the truth. White farmers are being killed at dramatically higher rates than you'll see in actual war zones or places like Afghanistan. By some estimates, the murder rate for white farmers is something like 150 per 100,000 people. And that's why white people in South Africa are currently leaving everything behind, their farms, their homes, everything, in order to fly to the United States and stay in holiday inns off the interstate in Idaho.

They're not doing that for fun. This is not a tourist trip. They're doing it because their lives are endangered in South Africa. But even after Trump explained all this in the Oval Office, even after Trump played the evidence of white genocide for the press and for the president of South Africa, the corporate press is continuing to lie universally about what's happening in South Africa. They're simply denying that white people are being targeted. So we'll put up a selection of the headlines on the screen now.

I'm not going to read all these, but every single one of them accuses Trump of falsely spreading claims of white genocide in South Africa. They say that Trump abused the South African president with lies, even though he literally played 10 minutes of video for him and listened to firsthand testimony from the country. Pretty much every media outlet did the same thing. This is one compilation that Chaya Reitschik assembled. Watch.

The dramatic scene in the Oval Office today, the tense confrontation, President Trump ambushing the president of South Africa. Up next, another Oval Office meltdown, President Trump ambushing the president of South Africa. President Trump is being accused of conducting something of a diplomatic ambush of South Africa's president in the Oval Office. To be with you, I'm Katie Turr. President Trump orchestrated another Oval Office ambush today. Today, Donald Trump meeting with the president of South Africa.

and attempting to ambush and humiliate that leader. Zelensky territory where essentially he was a bit ambushed inside the oval office. Felt like an ambush in there, kind of like the president Zelensky meeting in the oval office. This was an ambush, it was orchestrated. Romaposa brought his best diplomatic self to this meeting but nothing could have prepared him for this multimedia ambush. What started as

To some degree, an ambush. Well, Katie, I mean, it was an ambush. Ambush. Ambush. Ambush. An ambush. Ambushing. Ambush. Ambushed inside the Oval Office. So the talking points went out. They're never very subtle about it. And this was shameless. And talk about coordinated. This was coordinated to a pretty amazing degree, even by these people's standards. But there was one outlet that told the truth seemingly by accident.

Here was a photo that the AP posted buried in an image gallery inside their article about how South Africa is supposedly safe for white people. But this is an image in that article. And here's the caption, quote, A view of crosses planted at the White Cross Monument, each one marking a white farmer who's been killed in a farm murder, is seen on a hillside in South Africa. OK, well, that's the reality of what's happening. And occasionally it gets out.

But you won't find similar reporting at the New York Times. Here's how they discussed what the white golfer said in the Oval Office. Quote, two of South Africa's most famous golfers were drawn into a tense Oval Office discussion about race in their country on Wednesday after President Trump ambushed his South African counterpart, Cyril Ramaphosa, with videos intended to support his false claim of mass killings of Afrikaners. Mr. Goosen shared that his relatives on farms live behind electric fences in fear of crime, like many other South Africans.

But the guys live a great life despite what's going on, he said, close quote. Yes, that's what the New York Times took from the golfer's statement. They left out the fact that the farmer's friends are dead, that the farms are being torched, that his elderly 80-year-old mother was attacked in their home. And the reason they left those details out is that ordinarily, most criminals don't set fire to farms or beat old women for no reason whatsoever. But they will do those things if they're motivated by racial resentment, which is clearly the case in South Africa.

Now, over at CNN, meanwhile, they tried to convince their 15 or 16 viewers that the song about killing white farmers, which is often repeated at political rallies in South Africa, really isn't meant to be taken literally. Watch.

Larry has been debate over that song, that anti-apartheid chant. Right. And for people who don't have a historical context, it does potentially appear more literal. Talk to us about the debate that has happened inside of South Africa with the recognition of how it appears to people when they hear those words.

It is an inflammatory song, without a doubt. And many in South Africa, even black South Africans, don't think it should be sung in a post-apartheid world, 30 years plus after apartheid. But there are many who grew up under those years of white minority rule who understand the historical context of this song, Kill the Boer, Kill the Farmer, that

that Julius Malema has made popular again. It sort of fell into disuse. It's not been that commonly sung after the end of apartheid in 1994. But it's brought it back again to reanimate the issue of the majority of land in South Africa still being owned by white farmers.

Yes, it's just it's just figurative. It's just which is why, again, if there was if there was a whole stadium of white people chanting, kill the blacks. All right. They'd be fine with it. Right. Because then those white people could say, no, we just meant it figuratively. That's all. It's just figurative. Figuratively kill them poetically. Kill them with kindness is what we meant to what we're really trying to say.

Yeah, I'm sure they'd buy that argument, right? So you've got, you have stadiums of people chanting, kill the farmer, and then you have farmers being killed. But still, it's all, don't draw any connection between those two things. They're simply incapable of bringing themselves to say that, yes, it's bad to call for the mass executions of white farmers. They can't acknowledge that post-colonial South Africa is a failure.

For the same reason they can't acknowledge that Rhodesia was a functioning, thriving state, the breadbasket of Africa, they called it, while Zimbabwe, the new name for Rhodesia, is a hellhole that needs to import food in order to avert famine. One after another, these post-colonial African states are demonstrating that colonialism wasn't so bad after all. In fact, it turns out better than the alternative.

Now, it's obvious why they can't admit any of this. Every single left-wing agenda item from the modern civil rights movement to DEI, everything is predicated on the idea that past oppression, as they define it, justifies handouts and preferential treatment today.

But that logic falls apart when you realize that any effort to supposedly balance things out and make up for the alleged sins of the past only means the murder rate will be 10 times higher than it was in Afghanistan at the height of the U.S. occupation. Everyone is poor. Elderly women are regularly tortured and beaten to death in their own homes. That's what that means. That's the reality. And it's gone unsaid for generations. And people in South Africa of all races have suffered because of it. So have people in this country.

And it's a lie that yesterday in the Oval Office, Donald Trump confronted and debunked in the most direct way that he possibly could. And in doing so, Trump didn't just demolish one of the central mythologies of the left, one that until now has sustained the vast majority of their depraved social experiments. Trump also signaled that in this administration, doublespeak and innuendo are not going to be the default mode of communication with foreign leaders or anybody else. Instead, we'll be direct. We're not going to cower from the truth or sugarcoat it with euphemism.

Every single aspect of society would be improved if we all adopted that level of discourse. We need a lot more of this if we're going to reverse the damage that South Africa's leaders have done, and more importantly, if we're going to prevent that ideology from spreading here. That's been the main goal of true conservatives in this country for many years now. And yesterday in the Oval Office, for the first time since the 1960s, Donald Trump gave us reason to think that we're going to succeed in that effort. Now let's get to our five headlines.

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It is, in fact, the bipartisan ideas that are always the worst. When both Democrats and Republicans get together and agree to do something together, that's when you know that it's just a monumentally bad idea. It's bad enough when one side wants to do something, but when they both want to do it, then watch out. So that brings us to the bill that just passed 100 to 0 in the Senate. Not a single dissenting voice in the Senate on this bill. NBC News reports, quote,

The Senate this week unanimously passed the No Tax on Tips Act in a surprise vote, which could boost momentum for an idea floated by President Donald Trump during his 2024 campaign. If enacted, the legislation would create a federal income tax deduction of up to $25,000 per year. With some limitations, the tax break applies to workers who typically received cash tips reported to their employer for payroll tax withholdings, according to a summary of the bill.

Currently, workers who receive cash tips of $20 or more monthly must report those earnings to employers. According to the IRS, cash tips can include funds received directly from customers, tip sharing from other employees, or tips paid via credit card. And so that's the bill. And it passed the Senate 100 to nothing. And I think it's a terrible idea. I know this is a Trump priority. I know that all the Republicans in the Senate support it. I don't. I think it's dumb.

I just think it's dumb. And there are a few major problems here as I see it. First of all, as you know, I am in favor of abolishing the income tax for everybody. I despise the income tax conceptually. I think in principle, it's an oppressive, evil scam. It shouldn't exist. I'd like to see a no tax on any income whatsoever policy. But this kind of legislation is not working us towards that goal incrementally. Okay, this is not...

If that was the point, then I would support it. But there's no way in hell it would get 100% support in the Senate if the idea was just to chip away at the income tax gradually until nobody has to pay it. Nobody involved in this actually thinks that this is part of a process to get us to a point where there is no income tax at all. So that is not what's happening here. That's not what this is.

Instead, this is just more of the same. This is more of what makes the income tax so oppressive to begin with. This is the powers that be, our overlords in Washington, using the tax system to arbitrarily pick winners and losers. This is the government using the tax code as a system of punishment or reward, right? This is not moving us towards a better system, but rather this is doubling down on what makes this system so screwed up in the first place. So

Why exactly should people in the service industry get this special deal? That's what I don't understand. No one's explained. I mean, you can explain why. Yeah, it's nice for them to not have to pay taxes, but why them? Like what makes them so special? What about anybody else? If you have two people who are both making, let's say, 45 grand a year and one of them works retail and the other one works as a waiter.

Why exactly should the waiter get to have most of his income exempted from taxes, but the retail worker doesn't? What makes the waiter so special in comparison to the retail worker? Why? And please don't give me any nonsense about how tips aren't income. Tips are a gratuity. They're just a gift. It's not really an income.

That is a distinction without a difference in this case. And also the service industry has been screaming at us for decades that tips are not just a gift. They're not just a gratuity. They are income. That's why we've been guilted into giving tips to everybody in the first place. Because for so long, they've told us that, well, these waiters, you know, they don't get paid a real hourly wage. And so this is their income. And so it falls on you as a customer to directly pay their salary, basically. Yeah.

So if that's the case, this is income. You can't have both ways. So what tips are income when it comes to guilting us into giving tips, but they're a gift when the IRS comes calling. That's that's nonsense. I mean, pick a lane, pick a lane here. And so there is no coherent reason for this other than our politicians just waving their magic wand.

and deciding to grant a special privilege to one random subset of the country. Again, this is not how you fix... This is not a way of fixing the problem with the system. This is just creating more of the problem that needs to be fixed. So it's a bad idea. It's unfair. It's unjust. And also, obviously, you've just created a situation where people are going to look to convert more of their income into tips.

You've just created all kinds of new complications. You've given the IRS more to do, not less. Any positive change with the tax code should always be in the name of simplifying it. It should be working us towards there not being an income tax, but at the very least, it should be simplifying things, making it more fair, making it more just, more even, and simpler so that the IRS is less involved, not more.

And all you've done is create an extra loophole that now the IRS is going to be more involved, which again is the opposite of what we should be doing. And yet 100% of the Senate was no one in the Senate had an issue with it. I mean, what I'm saying here, these are at least, you might not agree with me, but you have to admit that they're at least reasonable objections. And yet this is like the only thing we've seen in a long time where everybody agrees in Congress, at least in the Senate.

So, and on top of that, now you're going to have, so if you love this situation we're in now where, you know, when you go out and you're running errands or you're doing whatever, you get asked for a tip now 20 times a day, right? So if you love that, if you love getting asked for a tip, well, good news. Now it's going to be 40 times a day. Now it's going to be 60 times a day. Thanks to this brilliant bipartisan idea of,

Now the IRS is going to be more involved. The tax code is a little bit less fair and less even. And you're going to have people begging you for tips even more now because the tips are exempt. So great. So this is an idea that just doesn't make anything better. It makes everything a little bit worse. Every problem that this idea touches, it makes that problem worse, not better. It doesn't it does not solve anything.

100 to zero, though. 100 to zero. So we played this week the clip of Brandon Johnson, mayor of Chicago, saying that he prefers to hire black people because they're better people. They're more generous. Well, he was just confronted about this during a press conference. And when I say confronted, he was really confronted. I don't have a lot to add to this. I just think it's a great, I just want to play it because it's a great moment. Let's watch it. Real Chicagoans woke up this morning relieved that the Department of Justice is finally investigating your race hustle.

As someone who grew up on the south side of Chicago, I've heard a lot of race hustlers in my life, trust me. But they were usually marching around outside of City Hall, which is what makes this so embarrassing and dangerous. Very, very dangerous to the city of Chicago. Okay, we need the question.

I'm more than happy to ask this question. It's long overdue. For over a year, real Chicagoans, white and black, have been telling me that your black power rhetoric is bringing the city backwards from a place that had overcome. You want the question? Please. Real Chicagoans want to know, why are you a racist? Well, you know, first of all, I reject the idea and the premise that somehow that that's an actual legitimate question. You want that?

All right, we're going to go to the next one. Alice? The next question, my follow-up question is, a businessman, Robert Gomez, had his riverfront restaurant license yanked. You said that the reason you hire black people is because they're the most generous race on the planet. His riverfront restaurant license was yanked and given to a black restaurateur.

That seems to that has once again reinforced the belief among real Chicagoans, white and black and Mexican, that you are a racist. What do you say to those people? Again, I reject the premise that somehow that your question has any legitimacy. Thank you for your time. So that is, I believe, that's an independent journalist named William J. Kelly. Great question. Fair question.

And Johnson's response is, first of all, a very dumb person response. I reject the premise that your question has any legitimacy. That's a classic example of a dumb guy trying to sound smart. He could just say, I reject your question. He could say, I reject the premise of your question.

But he makes it as wordy as he can because that's his way of trying to advertise his own intellect. He thinks that being smart just means using more words, when in fact it's actually the opposite. Smart people are able to get a point across using fewer words. So this is a dumb response. This is a dumb person trying to sound smart. It's also cowardly. And this is someone who is not capable of defending his position. These race hustlers never are. And also afraid to. He's a coward.

They all are. That's the thing you notice about these race hustlers. Something we noticed when we were making our film, Am I Racist? Available now on dailywire.com. That they're just such cowards. When they're in a friendly environment, they'll be very explicit about how they feel. They'll just come out and say the thing. Brandon Johnson came out and said he prefers his own race. They're more generous. They're better people. He'll hire them instead of white people. Came out and said it.

But when these same people are in an environment where there's a chance of like the slightest bit of pushback, they crumble, they backtrack, they equivocate because they're cowards, dumb, racist cowards. All right, let's put this up on the screen so you can see it. A group of trans activists have been, have put up a giant trans flag at Yosemite National Park, put up clip 12 there. So they hung it on the...

the famous El Capitan rock formation, and you can see it here. So now we have this giant hideous thing defacing God's beautiful creation. Imagine you go to Yosemite National Park all the way out to this rock formation, out in the wilderness, away from the hustle and bustle of daily life, away from all the nonsense and the noise, and you arrive there and you look up and you see an enormous trans flag. Even out in the wilderness, you still have LGBT people shoving their nonsense in your face.

Even out in the woods, even out in the woods, you have trans people demanding that you pay attention to them. This is like this is like a much worse version of what happens if you climb Mount Everest these days, as as, of course, I know from extensive experience. But if you climb Mount Everest, you get up two thirds of the way and there's a line, you know, there's like you came all this way, the highest point on Earth, and there's a freaking line you have to wait in.

Soon they're going to have a visitor center at the top and like a gift shop and a Dairy Queen. So it's depressing, but this is way worse. So why are they doing this? Well, empty lives, desperate for attention. We know why. But what reason do they give? Here's a guy dressed like a park ranger from somebody's nightmarish acid trip who is going to explain to us why they're doing this. Let's watch.

Some carry hate. We carry the largest trans pride flag to ever be flown in a national park and unfurled it on the side of El Cap to prove a point that trans is natural. The Trump administration and transphobes would love to have you believe that being trans is unnatural, but species that can transition sexes can be found on every continent and in every ocean on planet Earth.

So call it a protest, call it a celebration. We are bringing elevation to liberation. They try to erase us from government websites and education systems and libraries. So we raise this flag higher than ever before. So every trans person knows that they have people that love them in their corner. The people united will never be defeated. I like how the name tag on this guy's wearing says gay in case he didn't pick up on that.

In case you didn't notice, in case there was any confusion, he's gay. Just so you know, that's a gay guy. You wouldn't have known otherwise. I know when you look at a dude in a park ranger outfit with a miniskirt wearing more makeup than a Republican woman on Fox News, when you see all that, I know you think, well, that guy must be straight. That's straight all day. That's straight if I've ever seen it. But no, it turns out he's gay. So, yeah.

I know when you see a dude who it looks like if Kathy Griffin was a character on Yogi Bear, when you see that, you think that's heterosexual. If I know heterosexual, that's what that is. But no, he's gay. And honestly, all I could think when I watch this is that I hope this guy is not an actual park ranger. I don't think he is, but I don't know. Can you imagine getting lost in the wilderness and you've been lost for nine days and then suddenly this guy shows up to rescue you?

Imagine you're huddled around a campfire, you know, and you're starving and this guy emerges from the darkness. You would assume that you have died and you're going to hell. That's what you would assume. That would be your first thought. You would think, okay, this is the demonic entity that has come here to drag me to hell. This is it. This is how it's going to happen. Anyway, so he says that trans is natural.

Now, I've recently addressed this kind of line of argument as it pertains to homosexuality. It's a really bad argument. It's a very dumb argument. Just because something occurs in nature doesn't mean it's acceptable or moral or okay or normal for us to do it as humans. Just because a certain behavior can be observed in the ocean, that doesn't mean that we should model ourselves after it. Your role model in life should not be an octopus or whatever.

If you do something and you can't justify it by saying, hey, what's everyone upset about? Hammerhead sharks do it too. It doesn't work. For example, squids are cannibalistic. Is it squids or squid? Is squid the plural of squid? Anyway, so they're cannibals. They eat their own species. And that is acceptable behavior for a squid.

But if you get caught at your dining room table, chowing down on your neighbor's torso, you're not going to be able to get off the hook by saying, hey, what's the big deal? Squids do it. Oh, I see. Oh, OK. OK. So when a squid is a cannibal, nobody cares. But what I am, everyone's got an issue with it. You're not going to be able to do that. It's not going to it's not going to be a convincing line of argument. And it especially doesn't work here because, yes, it's true that

that some species can change their sex. And he puts up on the screen an image of a clownfish as an example of something that can change their sex. And yes, clownfish have been observed changing sex. But human beings do not change sex. That is not a thing that humans have ever done or will ever be able to do. Humans are not clownfish. Clownfish also have gills. They can breathe underwater. We can't do that either.

You know what's crazy? Our lives actually don't resemble the lives of clownfish at all. If we were to do Kamala Harris's favorite thing and make a Venn diagram, and we've got humans and clownfish, there's very little that's going to be in that middle little bit. There's not a lot that you're going to find. It's going to be a lot of things. There's not a lot of commonality between humans and clownfish. So...

And so, yes, clownfish. And this is one of those things that doesn't really cross over. They do change sex. Humans don't. Our whole point about quote unquote transgenderism isn't exactly that it's unnatural. It's that it's impossible. It's not real. It doesn't exist. It's not a thing in the human species.

Clownfish literally physically change sex, which means that a clownfish with the reproductive capacity of a male can switch and develop the reproductive capacity of a female. This is a survival mechanism in their species. It is not a survival mechanism in ours. Trans people don't do this. Even with the help of surgery and drugs and hormones, they still don't do it. There has never been ever in history a male human

who developed or in any way obtained the reproductive capabilities of a female human or vice versa. This has never happened, ever. It happens in clownfish, but not in humans. Now, I'll be the first to say, if that did exist, if there was a male human who said, I'm going to transition into a woman,

And now suddenly through some dark magic actually has the reproductive capacity of a female can bear children. Um, then I would say that, yeah, okay, well, that's, that's a trans person. The first one, there it is. That's what that would be. But, um, that doesn't exist. It's not a thing in our species. So, uh, so that's it. And, and, uh,

And that's why you can take the trans flag down from the cliff there and let everybody enjoy God's creation without your incessant whining. That would be good. Let's get to the comment section. If you're a man, it's required that you grow with a sweet baby game.

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Indeed, she can be. All she needs is talent, skill, sportsmanship, intelligence, and most of all, greatness. Acquire those things and she can be great. Yeah. And also speaking of Ryan Clark, I just saw this morning that apparently, and I didn't know this when we talked about yesterday, apparently he also has a mixed race kid.

He was forced to put out a tweet, I think this morning, where he confessed that he has a mixed race kid, which normally wouldn't be the kind of thing that would come up in a conversation about basketball. I mean, it's not the kind of thing you would normally have to confess. But he, of course, was condemning RG3 for marrying a white woman.

And it turns out that Clark has a mixed race daughter. So he's done exactly the same thing. In fact, he hasn't done the same thing. He apparently had sex with a white woman and produced a kid, but did not marry the mother. So as opposed to RG3, who married, you know, the mom. So he's a he's a hypocrite, a racist and a deadbeat all at the same time. Just a real catch that guy.

Let's see. Yeah, I'm definitely calling BS on the racial slurs. Someone yelling racial slurs in a multiracial crowd. Someone would have caught it and someone would have made a big deal out about it for the cameras to see like they did at the BYU volleyball game. Right. Well, exactly. And also just the idea of a raving, shouting racist going to a WNBA game is very funny to me.

That's a very funny idea. The idea that someone went to a WNBA game and then looked around and was shocked and appalled by all the black people. That's, that's funny. That's, that's a good, that would be a good, you know, like old Chappelle show bit or something. Uh, somebody, some racist white guy sits down all excited to watch some WNBA basketball and then looks around and sees that it's almost all black women and goes, what the hell, what the hell is this? Since when do black people play basketball?

Uh, that's, that's pretty funny. So, but I don't think that actually happened. Uh, let's see. I, I honestly forgot that Starbucks exists until there's something in the news about the employees complaining. People still pay for overpriced, bad coffee. Yeah. I'll keep making better coffee at home for cheaper. No, listen, you know what? I'm, uh, I'm not going to go along with the Starbucks slander. I mean, slandering the employees is fine, but I will on a pot of, and slandering like slander the company and the employees and the corporate office.

I will unapologetically defend the product, though. I'm not going to go. You know, this is something conservatives do with a lot of things. I think it's kind of lame where it's kind of like when you have conservatives that will there's some actor who's a lame, woke liberal. And so then then then they'll also they'll also pretend that the actor is not a good actor. And sometimes they're actually not good actors. But oftentimes, like, no, they're good actors. I mean, they're good at what they do. Not all of them, but many of them are.

Uh, but they're also woke leftists. And so I think a similar thing happens with, with, with Starbucks where you got conservatives that will pretend, oh, the coffee isn't even good. No, it's like, it's pretty good. We don't have to pretend it's not good. Um, it's, it's the best you're going to get from a chain coffee place. And it's also better than a lot of people make in their homes.

I mean, you'll hear from people that say, oh, I can make better coffee at my house. And, you know, and they've got like a $12 drip coffee maker and they're making Folgers. And it's like, well, no, you're not making better at your house, actually. You're not even making diner level coffee at your house. So give me a break. Now, if you're making, you know, if you're going the whole French press route, that's too much effort for me. But if you're doing that and you got some gourmet coffee beans and you're grinding it yourself, making French press, then yeah, that's better than Starbucks. But

I'm afraid to say most of you are not making better coffee at your house. And Starbucks is pretty good. Again, for a chain place, it's pretty good. Now, like a local coffee shop will often be better. But of course, in most places, especially most urban places, most metropolitan places, the local coffee shop is going to be way woker than Starbucks even is.

So if you want to avoid wokeness, it's if you want to avoid it entirely, that's hard to do and also find good coffee, unfortunately. So and look, Starbucks is way better than Dunkin Donuts. So don't even give me a break. All these people pretending that Dunkin Donuts is better. And Dunkin Donuts is probably a woke company, too. You know, they all are. It's probably not as woke, unfortunately.

The service at Dunkin' Donuts is also bad in a different way, but the coffee is not better. Dunkin' Donuts coffee is... It's like if you had boiling hot water in a rusty bucket mixed with mulch and it sat there for two days and then you strained out the mulch and poured it into a cup and poured it into a normal-sized cup, like a Leftist Tears tumbler, and then put...

19 tablespoons of sugar in it and mixed it all together. That's Dunkin' Donuts coffee. So give me a break. Let's see. Oh, look, another transitional job that people make a career out of wanting to wear their own flair like it's office space or something. Yeah, that's maybe the most absurd thing about the Starbucks strike is, I mean, the very fact they have a union at all is ridiculous because Starbucks isn't supposed to be a career. You're right. I mean, sure, if you want to work your way up and get into management,

That could be a career. You want to move over to the corporate side? That could be a career. If your ultimate goal is to open up your own coffee shop or something, that can be a career. There's plenty of careers in the coffee world, but just being a barista on an hourly wage wearing a name tag, that is not a career. So why are you wasting your time fighting? On top of all the other problems with the whole striking over the uniform,

Why are you wasting your time fighting with them about it? Just put the stupid thing on. Do your job. Hopefully you don't plan to be there for 10 years anyway. Do it to the best of your ability and move on. That's it. It's that simple.

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Now let's get to our daily cancellation. You know, very often people ask me what it's like to be a best-selling, world-renowned children's author. They'll wonder how it feels being a member of one of the world's most exclusive clubs.

And, um, and if for some reason I choose to respond to these people, I always have the same answer, which is that my life really hasn't changed much since the massive success of my book, Johnny the walrus. Yes. Occasionally I'll get some flattering messages from my peer and very good friend, JK Rowling, or, you know, an oversized royalty check might arrive in the mail with millions of more dollars, uh,

in it from my book. And yes, it's true that Amazon once listed Johnny the Walrus as the best-selling book in the LGBTQ plus category, which has endeared me to millions of trans and non-binary folks all over the world. In fact, many of these fans still follow me around to this day, obsessing over my every move. And yes, the book cemented my status as one of the great wordsmiths of our generation, and frankly, of all time. I think most people would agree.

But really, I don't think of Johnny the Walrus, which is available now at the Daily Wire's online shop, bundled with a Walrus plushie on sale for the low price of $29.99, as something that I need to promote or talk about very often. The art speaks for itself in this case. And having freed that particular literary dove and released its brilliance and beauty into the world for everyone to enjoy, I have mostly moved on with my life.

But the same cannot be said for people who have made the decision to purchase my book. You might think that in a country with the First Amendment, you can buy any book you want. And you certainly think that you could purchase a book about Johnny, a boy with a very active imagination who dresses up as a walrus. To be clear, the message of the book is pretty simple and straightforward. Johnny isn't actually a walrus. And I mean, not to spoil it. And people who try to convince him to undergo walrus affirming surgery and to eat worms are wrong.

We're not talking about a classified bomb-making manual here or an Al-Qaeda guide to hijacking an aircraft. We're also not talking about anything deviant or grotesque or explicit or vulgar or anything like that. We're talking about a children's book about a kid who thinks he's a walrus. So how, you might ask, could this book possibly be controversial in any way? How could anyone who buys this book possibly lose their job or be threatened with termination simply for owning it?

Well, enter the Intermountain Education Service District in Oregon, which oversees multiple school districts in the state. And the district currently employs a licensed social worker named Rod Face, T-H-E-I-S. I might be browsing that wrong. Currently, Rod decided to place a copy, recently rather, Rob decided to place a copy of Johnny the Walrus on his desk in his office. And he also displayed two other books on the windowsill called He is He and She is She.

This is an office that says staff only on the door and students are only inside the office when he's evaluating him as part of his job. And here's what the setup looks like. You can see it there. So the book is not exactly shoved down anybody's throat. It's not plastered all over the wall like the various pro-trans, pro-pride month propaganda that pretty much every school in Oregon posts everywhere. It's just a book on his desk. No parent or student complained about the book as far as anybody knows. Not that they have any reason to do so.

But that didn't stop the Intermountain Education Service District from demanding that Rod remove the book from his desk and then suggesting that he attend a mandatory re-education seminar entitled Making Schools Safe and Inclusive for Transgender Students. They said that my story about a little boy who pretends to be a walrus is in fact a hostile expression of animus towards students' quote, actual or perceived gender identity.

They claim that the mere presence of this book on the desk constitutes a bias incident. And they said that if Rod didn't comply with their demands, that they would fire him. Now, specifically on October 21st, 2024, the principal of one of these schools in the district emailed Rod to discuss, quote, some concerns brought to the principal about a couple of books on display in your office. In that same email chain, the principal told Rod to place the books out of sight.

Quoting for the lawsuit, according to Principal Wagner, the staff member was concerned about messages that could be considered offensive to transgender students. When plaintiff asked why this staff person thought this, Principal Wagner responded that the staff member had looked up the books online and then determined that they were offensive, close quote.

So in other words, the staff member who complained didn't actually read the book. And the principal, when he read the book, determined that it wasn't offensive or inappropriate. Nevertheless, the principal told Rod that he had to remove the book because he supposedly has to maintain a neutral environment at the school. By November, there was an official bias complaint from a staffer and the superintendent,

who's a spineless coward named Mark Mulvihill, ruled against Rod. He determined that the book's display, quote, amounted to a bias incident because the books, quote, promote a binary view of gender which excludes and invalidates an understanding of gender diversity. And their display, quote, communicates a message of exclusion and diminishes the validity of non-binary and transgender experiences and contributes to an unwelcoming environment which directly contradicts the district's commitment to inclusivity and diversity.

Now, to his great credit, Rod did not back down. He secured representation from the Alliance Defending Freedom, the premier Christian First Amendment advocacy group in the country, which won the Dobbs case that overturned Roe v. Wade before the Supreme Court. And now they've stepped in to defend him.

They just filed a First Amendment lawsuit against the district to force them to end their censorship. And in their investigation, ADF determined that various schools in Oregon tolerate books that contain, quote, violence, suicide, explicit language, domestic abuse, drug and alcohol use, and sexual content.

And those books include the Twilight Saga, The Hunger Games. There are also books that feature same-sex relationships and non-binary characters, which are on display and available for students to read in sixth grade classrooms. Additionally, some of the books in classrooms that are next to Rod's office contain, quote, sexually inappropriate material, including a book where a boy masturbates, along with books that reference contraceptives and contain descriptions of explicit gore. And even though several parents complained about those books,

In that case, the parents did complain, and they didn't complain about my book. Still, those books are on display. Now, in case you're unfamiliar with my book, there is no explicit gore in Johnny the Walrus. Neither Johnny nor the Walrus, nor anyone else, engage in sexually explicit behavior or domestic abuse or drug or alcohol use. This is a representative page from the book. And as you can see, characters are having fun, but they're doing it completely sober.

There's nothing explicit is being exposed here. But the Intermountain Education Service District has chosen to ban Johnny the Walrus, ostensibly to maintain a neutral environment. And at the same time, ADF found that there's no concern about the left-wing messaging that staffers and teachers are posting throughout other schools in Oregon, including schools outside the district. One special education teacher displays a pride flag, for example, and a counselor has posted various BLM slogans all over the place.

But apparently there's no concern in these Oregon schools that any of this messaging might upset, say, a conservative student or disrupt the neutral environment. So why is that? Well, according to the lawsuit, the assistant superintendent of the district, Amy Van Nise, interrogated Rod at one point. And her interrogation gives us a window into the worldview of these people. And apparently the assistant superintendent asked him, and this is verbatim from the lawsuit, quote, why can't Johnny be a walrus?

And that about sums up this whole incident as well as the logic of trans activists more generally. Why can't Johnny be a walrus? It is the perfect encapsulation of how mindless and truly sinister these people are. Johnny can't be a walrus because he's not a walrus. He's a fictional human, not a fictional walrus. My book is intended for children between the ages of three and seven, and every single one of them can grasp this concept very quickly.

But the middle-aged representatives of this district who are supposed to serve the interests of taxpayers are pretending not to understand it. Or maybe they actually don't understand it, which would explain the quality of education system in this country. At this point, it won't be enough for Rod to win this case. Superintendent Mark Mulvihill, along with the assistant superintendent and HR director Amy Van Nise, need to be fired immediately.

The federal government has a responsibility to make sure that any school district that engages in this kind of discrimination is brought to justice because we're talking about civil rights violations here. The First Amendment, your freedom of speech and religious expression, is a federal issue. It's a fundamental right. The government cannot arbitrarily punish certain viewpoints and reward others. Any school district that suspends the First Amendment or that targets Christians because of their beliefs should lose all federal funding. And the people responsible should never be allowed to teach again.

Now, to be clear, I'm not saying that any teacher should be able to place any book they want in the classroom or plaster any message they want on the walls. The issue here is, first of all, that they're treating my book differently from all these other books, which is unconstitutional on its face. And the second issue is that my book is sane and reasonable while theirs are pornographic and disturbing. Each one of these issues independently is grounds for Rod to win this case.

So we'll be following this lawsuit and we'll let you know what happens in Oregon. In the meantime, if something like this is happening where you live, get in touch with us or with Alliance Defending Freedom. Conservatives control the federal government, but state and local attacks on constitutional rights appear to be accelerating in many cases. And these people will win unless we fight back. Now, Rod, to his credit,

is taking these leftists to court. We'll need a lot more people like him if we're going to preserve the right of every American to read whatever inoffensive children's books they want, including masterpieces like Johnny the Walrus. And that is why this Oregon district that's threatening to terminate a social worker for reading my book is today canceled. That'll do it for the show today. And this week, we're off for the weekend and Memorial Day. We'll see you on Tuesday. Have a great weekend. Godspeed.