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Fox Gets Broken on Live TV as Trump Gets Outplayed

2025/6/12
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Ben Meiselas
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Howard Lutnick
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Jesse Waters
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Ben Meiselas: 我认为加州州长加文·纽森实际上让福克斯新闻崩溃了。福克斯的宣传员认为称特朗普为“strong man”是一种恭维。杰西卡·塔洛夫是福克斯上唯一支持民主的声音,我很喜欢她。加州州长纽森和觉醒的多数美国人,以及支持民主的力量正在赢得这场辩论。福克斯不得不转移话题,开始谈论西蒙·拜尔斯。 Jesse Waters: 我认为称特朗普为“strong man”是一种恭维。因为Newsom的言论,我认为特朗普应该采取更强硬的手段,打破这些反抗者的脊梁。非法移民认为他们拥有这个国家,不尊重法律和执法部门。特朗普应该采取更强硬的手段,打破ICE反抗者的脊梁,确保每个人都明白这件事不会放缓。我不是白痴。 Jessica Tarlov: 加文·纽森代表了大多数美国人的声音。特朗普在移民和驱逐出境问题上的支持率很低,他最好的议题已经被他破坏了。过去我们听到的是要抓捕罪犯,但现在却是去美甲店、工地、生日派对和移民法庭抓人。现在没有正确的方式参与这个系统,纳税,为家人创造更好的生活,并希望获得公民身份。斯蒂芬·米勒很生气,因为他们每天驱逐的人比乔·拜登少。瓦拉德霍·冈萨雷斯等共和党核心小组代表知道这样做是不好的,他们希望优先移除已知的罪犯,而不是农场工人。

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This chapter analyzes how California Governor Gavin Newsom's actions and statements, particularly his criticism of Donald Trump's immigration policies, caused a significant shift in Fox News's coverage and exposed internal divisions within the network. The Quinnipiac poll results showing Trump's low approval ratings are highlighted, and Fox's subsequent pivot to less controversial topics like Simone Biles is examined.
  • Gavin Newsom's criticism of Trump's immigration policies
  • Fox News's internal divisions exposed
  • Quinnipiac poll showing Trump's low approval ratings
  • Fox's pivot to less controversial topics

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21 plus and present in Illinois. Must be first online real money wager. $5 deposit required. Bonus issued is non-withdrawable bonus pass that expires seven days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See full terms at fanduel.com slash sportsbook. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. What a total and utter mess state regime media known as Fox was. I think California Governor Gavin Newsom literally broke Fox News.

because the whole day yesterday you had like Fox propagandists like Jesse Waters saying, so what? Governor Newsom's calling Donald Trump a strong man. Isn't that a compliment? Strong man. That's a good thing. Like being super strong. Watch what Fox propagandist Jesse Waters says here. Play this clip. So he's calling him a strong man. I think that's a compliment for Donald Trump. I hear strong man. The guy's in a bunker like Biden with a prerecorded video. Oh,

This is an attack on democracy. They're really going to go with the dictator hoax. They got more desperate than that. Then you had Jesse waters go, you know, you know what? Because of what Newsom said, I think Trump should go harder. He needs to break the, break the back of these people, break the back of these ice resistancers here, play this clip. Maybe the crazy base on the left thinks it's good because they love to see the country burn, but it's not good. He's illegals. Jessica thinks they're living in Mexico.

They're waving the Mexican flag. They don't like America. They love living in L.A. because L.A. is great. It's nicer than Mexico and you get free housing, free health care, free food. They don't even lay a finger on you. That's the problem here. They think they own the country. They don't respect the laws and they don't respect the law enforcement.

I think Trump should go harder. He needs to break the back of this ICE resistance and make sure everybody understands that this thing's not going to slow down. You can't be held hostage in your own country by foreigners because that's what this is. It's an extortion attempt.

Every time you try to enforce the law, we're gonna burn stuff. That's not how it works. - And then I love this where you have the only pro-democracy voice on Fox, Jessica Tarloff on that show, "The Five." She does a great job. I'm a big fan of Tarloff. And she goes, "You do realize, Jesse,

that gavin newsom is speaking to the majority of americans you saw the recent quinnipiac poll which has donald trump at a negative 12 approval or a negative 11 approval on a total approval of trump negative 12 negative 11 on immigration negative 16 on deportation watch tarlov put him in his place gavin newsom is speaking for a majority of americans right before we came on air there was a new quinnipiac poll that was released so donald trump negative 12

approval in general, negative 11 on immigration and negative 16 on deportations. He has taken his best issue and decimated it by making these deportations in a hasty way. It used to be go after the criminals. That's what we heard was going to happen. Now it's go to the nail salons, go to the job sites, go to birthday parties, go to immigration courts. There is now no

right way to do it. There is no way to be part of the system, pay your taxes, make a better life for your family, and hopefully get citizenship. Stephen Miller is mad because they were deporting less people on a daily basis than Joe Biden was. So he went and he said, go to 7-Eleven and you go to Home Depot. And now Americans and Americans

who, yes, they're here illegally, are living in fear of what the government is trying to do. And just one more thing, the GOP caucus...

like valadejo gonzalez uh representatives they know that this is bad valadejo saying please prioritize removal known criminals gonzalez focus on convicted criminals not farm laborers okay so then jesse waters comes back and he's like i'm not a moron i'm not stupid i'm not a moron play this clip it just uses one of these little scissors i'm very dexterous how do you know what a cuticle is brett asked me to ask you a cuticle is the

part of the nail that meets the skin. Okay? I'm not a moron, Jessica, despite what I sound like. This is how you know California Governor Newsom and

And the majority of Americans, the pro-democracy forces who have now woken up, how they're winning this debate. So then Jesse Waters and then Fox, they have to pivot. What are we going to talk about? What do we talk about? Simone Biles. Let's talk about Simone Biles.

apologizing to Riley Gaines. This stupid dispute that Fox has been manufacturing and talking about. Simone Biles, that's what we talk about, right? Let's focus on Simone Biles. Like there's about to be a major war in the Middle East. Donald Trump has destroyed American economy. But let's talk about Simone Biles here, play this clip. First of all, is it ever a good idea to get in the middle of two women having a conversation like this? No, no. That's why I just want to lay back.

and hope she trains for LA. If we start messing with her head, she's mentally weak. Remember the one time she... We have to make sure she meddles. Okay? So I'm going to lay off her. But I will say this. She pulled a knee long.

Oh, I'm sorry for some of the things I said? Come on. You remember the days when PR teams would have to, like, walk back something that you said that was based? Now they walk back when you say stuff woke. I love it. We are so back right now. This shows the power of Fox, too. This woman...

Riley Gaines did the full Kelmead. I think maybe six shows in 48 hours and just put so much pressure on Simone. And by the way, that's what they were talking about a lot in the day. Like, let's focus on Simone Biles. You know what? Let's bring on Riley Gaines.

They bring on freaking Riley. I don't even understand this dispute. Riley Gaines pretends that she's like a champion athlete. I think she came in like fifth place. Simone Biles is a gold medalist over and over again. And then they bring on Riley Gaines. I guess this is the mentality of Fox to like attack the gold medalists and support people who are not.

like first, second, I guess, or even third. And then like, you're an American hero, Riley. You're an American hero, an American hero. And by the way, I don't even want to really learn about what this dispute is even about because there are ICE agents involved

who are going into factories and schools and courthouses and restaurants and disappearing people. We have the Trump regime tariffing the world. We have Donald Trump holding a military parade for himself. So I think there may be more important things than...

what Riley Gaines is, whoever this even is, is mad about. But okay, sure, play this clip. Just wanted to say you're a hero for young women, women, but also for men. You're an American hero. That's right. And I'm glad to be on the couch with you today. Well, thank you, Charles. That's very sweet. That's right. And definitely, I know we all grew up with posters of athletes on our wall and you'd be my athlete on the wall for sure. Continued champion. But okay, Riley, tell us,

Tell us how you really feel. I think a lot of people took issue with the fact. People took issue. There's real issues taking place. I don't think this is one of them. Play this clip. What do you think the message is now that she has shaped for these young women that used to look up to her? I think the thing a lot of people took issue with is, of course, the body shaming portion of this, where she's referring to me as someone with a male stature. First of all, I'm five foot five.

I wouldn't say that's overly tall for a woman. Maybe compared to someone who's 4'8", that might seem like a giant. But to most women, that's relatively standard. I'm about 130, 135 pounds. Not overly big. Yes, I'm muscular. I think that's part of being an athlete. And if anyone would understand that, you would imagine it would be Simone Biles. Because I'm telling you, Fox wants to distract and trap people to talk about

penises and vaginas. Are you trans? Are you straight? Are you gay? Are you this? Are you that? What are you even talking about? These Fox hosts, they wake up every day and y'all are weird if this is what you're thinking about every day. Just treat human beings like humans. Treat people with dignity. Treat

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Then Fox talks about the Trump's disastrous trade deals because we're what we're approaching the 90 deals in 90 days and he's done zero deals in 90 days. And then they did this embarrassing like not a deal. It's not an agreement. They call it a framework with China in London. Right. So back in May.

The United States caved to China and reduced tariffs from 145% to 30%. Then China reduced its tariffs from 125% to 10%. And they called that a consensus. So then they said they were going to agree to have talks. So then they talked in London over the past few days. And then they said, we've agreed to a framework to implement the consensus.

to implement the consensus and then watch Ingram talk to Howard Lutnick about what this is. And he's like, we ate chicken. We ordered fried chicken. These are the most unserious, excuse me, I don't mean to name call like pathetic and dumb, um,

and disingenuous people here play this clip. But I want you to know for lunch, for lunch, we had British pizza and they ordered Kentucky fried chicken. So, so Mr. Secretary, you, you, after spending, after spending this time with them, you trust them. You trust them.

I think the way it works with the Chinese is you have to respect them. You have to respect them. And it has to be a win-win. But the answer is, when you send us magnets, we'll remove our countermeasures. It balanced. That's what Donald Trump said. That's what we're going to do. So I have confidence this is going to work. Otherwise, they just want to plastic. We want to have magnets. They want to plastic. They won't have planes. Yeah.

I have an idea. I know you have so much time on your hands. So we've got the cards. We've got great cards. I have an idea. Why don't we make our own rare earth materials? And that's going to require an industrial policy so we can compete against China so they don't have anything over us. And then I guess to her credit, and I want to give Laura Ingraham credit for anything, she points out that China actually, from whatever this framework is, China outmaneuvered the United States because China basically said in six months...

we will have the right to stop sending you in the United States rare earth minerals and magnets and things like that. That's why the United States Trade Representative and Commerce Secretary and Treasury Secretary rushed to China or rushed to cave again to China in London because American companies were about to run out of their rare earth minerals and they wouldn't be able to build things.

So Ingram's like, so why are you doing an expiration date in six months? Doesn't that mean China can just dangle this over your head? And then Howard Lutnick in his typical snake oil salesman way is like, no, no, no, that's actually a good thing. Here, play this clip. President announced early this morning that the China deal is done, he said. And I just got back from London, engaged in two days of negotiating with your counterparts.

The Wall Street Journal and others are reporting that while that framework is in place and that there's China supposedly going back to Xi about it, which seems a little odd, but I understand the rare earth ease up on the export of rare earth materials that we desperately need because we don't produce them here, that that has an expiration date, Mr. Secretary. Why is that expiration date there? Doesn't it give them leverage over us?

You got to realize. So what happened is they cut their tariffs, we cut our tariffs, and then they started slow rolling these magnets. And what these magnets are, they're a teeny little product that goes in every motor. It's like part of the starter. It's a small business for us, but everybody needs it. So when they started slow rolling us, what did we do? We stopped delivering them ethane. We give them ornithine.

all of their, you know what that thing makes? Plastic. So good luck running an economy without plastic. We stopped sending them plane parts and 250 of their planes were on the ground, right? Because they need our plane parts, right? Marco Rubio said, "I'm not taking your students anymore. They can just go home." And all these kind of moves basically equaled the nonsense that they were doing to us

We got together, the president and, you know, President Trump and President Xi, they got on the phone. President Trump took a positive view. He said, we're great friends. Come on, let's just put this negative stuff behind us and let's make the world a better place. Then Howard Lutnick tries to act like the fact that there's 55% tariffs

from China into the United States, which is a 55% tax on Americans, is a good thing. The China tariffs are 10%, meaning China's only taxing its people 10%. Because why are you taxing your people?

And China has found export markets in Europe now, in Australia, in Canada, and elsewhere. And the United States has basically been cut out. But let's see what Howard Lutnick has to say. Here, play this clip. So we said to him, I said, you want to stop fentanyl? Just stop it the way you did magnets. You don't want to stop it? You can pay you 20%. So they're staying at 30%.

Donald Trump in the first term put 25% on. That's where they are, right? They charge us 10%. So we're in an excellent place, making huge amounts of money, doing things correctly with China, reducing the trade deficit. And now we're going to get on to talking to them about doing more trade. Now bring on Lori Chavez Dreamer. And then she basically threatened

She basically says that the president's going to have talks with the Federal Reserve chairman about dropping interest rates. Okay, the president needs to stay the hell out of that stuff when he doesn't know what he's talking about. Play this clip. Are we not going to see a drop in interest rates this year?

Well, the president has been, again, focused on how we'll have those conversations with the Fed and the Reserve. The Department of Labor doesn't really weigh into that, but usually when we see inflation go down, we're going to see interest rates go down. So I'm anxious to see the conversations that the president is going to continue to weigh in on because what we want to see is more affordability in our housing market. Then similarly, you had Howard Lutnick kind of make the same threat to the chairman of the Federal Reserve. Play this clip. It's unbelievable that

You know, Jerome Powell is just sitting around waiting. You know, the president calls him too late. You know, he's just too late, Powell. I mean, why? Why hasn't he cut? I mean, you remember if he cut interest rates one percent and got Europe cutting like crazy, you realize that saves America three hundred billion dollars a year.

It's unbelievable how much we would save if he did his job and he cut interest rates. The economy is ready for it. It's easy. Inflation is low. Come on. He's got to do his job soon. Oh, then bring on Tulsi Gabbard, who says, you know, what we're focusing our resources in the intelligence community and the FBI is who's

Who is funding these protests? Who are the people? There are ads being put up on Craigslist thousands of dollars a week ago to be involved in riots.

There's not a conspiracy that these people will not spread, but they're always telling on themselves like this must be the stuff that they're actually doing. But watch Tulsi Gabbard play this clip. Can you tell us about the orchestration, the financing and is Gavin either whether he knows or not actually siding with the cartels here?

Whether he knows it or not, he is, certainly. Again, this is something that the Department of Justice and the FBI is looking into, who is funding these protesters. We've seen the ads put up on Craigslist offering people thousands of dollars a week to go out and conduct these violent and dangerous riots in the streets of not only Los Angeles, but we saw earlier in Chicago and New York and other cities across the country.

And by the way, did you see that Tulsi Gabbard posted this

bizarre video of herself to spread Russia propaganda the other day. And she was like, she's basically implying that if we don't help out Russia and put more pressure on Ukraine, there will be nuclear annihilation. Children's skin will peel off their faces. It will be a nuclear winter. I mean, it was the craziest video. I'll just show you a small portion of it. Here, play this clip. Condemning survivors to agonizing deaths or lifelong suffering.

A nuclear winter could follow with smoke and ash completely blocking the sun, plunging the world into darkness and cold, killing crops and starving billions. Acid rain would scar the earth, wiping out entire ecosystems. This isn't some made-up science fiction story.

This is the reality of what's at stake, what we are facing now. - Oh, and then Jesse Waters logic. How does Trump provoke violence if he lives in Washington? That's what you're going with? How does Trump provoke violence if he lives in Washington? Play this clip. - And they can't even get their story straight. All right, first there was no riot, then there was a riot, then it was peaceful, then it was mostly peaceful, then Trump provoked the violence. Now, how does Trump provoke violence if he lives in Washington?

He wasn't out there doing anything. So the National Guard provoked the riots because I didn't see a single National Guardsman melt down a Waymo or loot a store. Not one. Well, there you have it, folks. Very strange stuff. But you see, Gavin Newsom literally broke Fox yesterday.

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