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GOP Reps Lose It on Live TV as Trump Goes to War With LA

2025/6/9
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Mike Johnson: 我认为使用海军陆战队对付美国人是维护和平的一种方式。我们必须准备好做任何必要的事情,发出可能采取行动的信号可能会产生威慑作用。在国内外事务中,维护和平是我们的核心原则,我认为这很重要。 Gonzalez: 我支持立即采取行动,尽快镇压暴乱。如果开始驱逐40万寻求庇护者,将会非常痛苦。我希望我们关注那些被判有罪的非法移民罪犯,特别是那些最恶劣的罪犯,确保他们被驱逐。你总是想通过升级来降级。 Lankford: 对非美国公民的程序更快。对于非公民来说,正当程序要快得多。 Rick Scott: 如果身体健全的人不想工作,我们不应该提供免费的医疗、住房和食物。我希望患有慢性疾病的孩子和人能够获得医疗保健,但我不想让人们玩弄这个系统。 Mark Wayne Mullen: 你不应该介入两个打架的人之间。 Caroline Leavitt: 内阁和埃隆·马斯克之间确实存在一些健康的分歧,他们有时会彼此感到沮丧,但他们仍然可以团结起来为人民服务。ABC需要为他们的记者在深夜发布的针对斯蒂芬·米勒的言论负责。 Kristi Noem: 司法部长和国防部的建议对总统至关重要,但总统做决定。我很自豪能为他工作。这个国家的法律就是我们正在做的事情。国民警卫队士兵在那里为行动提供安全保障,并确保我们有和平的抗议活动。 Kevin Hassett: 关税不会消失。

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This chapter analyzes statements made by Republican representatives Mike Johnson and Gonzalez, who appear to justify the potential use of active-duty Marines against American citizens. Their justifications are challenged and discussed, highlighting the controversy and raising questions about their logic and the implications of such actions.
  • Mike Johnson defends Trump's potential use of Marines against Americans as "peace through strength."
  • Congress member Gonzalez's previous statements against Trump's actions against non-violent migrants are contrasted with his current support for escalation.
  • Senator Lankford's assertion that stating someone violated the law constitutes due process is challenged.

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MAGA Republican sheep. I mean MAGA Republican leaders making total fools of themselves over the weekend on various TV appearances. For example, here you have MAGA Mike Johnson defending Donald Trump

potentially using the Marines against Americans. And Maga Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, says that's peace through strength right there. That's how you do it. Peace through strength is sending the Marines against people inside America. Play this clip. Secretary Hegseth said that active duty Marines there at Camp Pendleton, there by San Diego, are on high alert and could be mobilized. Could we really see active

duty Marines on the streets of Los Angeles? One of our core principles is maintaining peace through strength. We do that on foreign affairs and domestic affairs as well. I don't think that's heavy handed. I think that's an important signal. You don't think sending Marines into the streets of an American city is heavy handed? We have to be prepared to do what is necessary. And I think the notice that that might happen might have the deterring effect.

Okay. Peace through strength. Are you out of your mind? What kind of language is that? Attacking Americans with the Marines? Next, I want to show you MAGA Republican Congress member Gonzalez. And here, this is great questioning by the host who asked Congress member Gonzalez, you know, back in November, this is what you said to all of us. You said, if Donald Trump starts going after migrants,

who are not engaged in crimes, then it's over for Donald Trump. That that is going to be the end of his administration if he starts to do that. Watch Congress member Gonzales squirm, play this clip. You said back in November the administration would fail if it began going after nonviolent migrants. You said if the messages were here to deport your abuelita, this is not going to work well. You heard our reporting.

People are getting arrested going to court appearances, trying to abide by the law. We have these cases of, for example, a 19-year-old high schooler on his way to volleyball team practice in Massachusetts, arrested because his student visa had expired. An Afghan soldier in Houston who used to guard American soldiers at bases with eight kids to his name, arrested even though he entered this country with legal status. Are these people the worst of the worst?

They're not. But when this is what's going to happen is as as these 400000 asylum seekers that are in limbo, if you will start to get deported. Maria, who's 23 years old, that was from Honduras, that was was told to come to the United States for a better life and has gotten married and has had children. As she gets ripped from that life and gets sent back to Honduras, it's going to be very painful for us.

What I'd like for us to do is focus on the convicted criminal illegal aliens. Last year, I asked the administration-- - But is that happening? Because right now, it looks like they're trying to run up the numbers, frankly. - Last year, I asked the administration what that number was. It was 662,000. Last month, I asked, as of July of last year, last month, I asked Secretary Noem

Under oath, I asked her, has that number increased or has that number decreased? She responded that the number of convicted criminal aliens has increased. So that means we have over 600,000. We should absolutely focus on that population, the worst of the worst, and make sure that those are the areas that get removed. Otherwise, it's going to take us down this route of constant civil conflict. And then here, Congress member Gonzalez says...

Well, look, I support this escalation. This is what you need to do. You need to escalate right away and put that mob down as soon as possible. The hell are you talking about? You want to escalate to deescalate? That's literally what you don't do.

Play this clip. It's tragic to see what's happening in L.A. I spent 20 years in the military. I fought in two wars. I fought to give people the freedom to protest whatever the hell they want to. But what we're seeing in L.A. are not advocates. We're seeing anarchists. And the president of the United States should absolutely put down the mob as soon as possible. But this is just the tip of the iceberg. Are you comfortable with active duty Marines being put on high alert for possible deployment?

to quell a civil disturbance. - If need be, but you always wanna escalate. - That's the will of the government. - You always wanna escalate to deescalate, but it first starts where you have to have local law enforcement get engaged. But if local law enforcement is removed and then you don't have the state law enforcement, then who is gonna take care of the people? I wanna- - And then you have MAGA Republican Senator Lankford

And here, Kristen Welker from Meet the Press says, but aren't people in the United States, whether you're here as a citizen or not, shouldn't you get due process and shouldn't you get a hearing? And then Senator Lankford says, you know what? The moment you just say to people you violated the law.

That's all that that's called due process. That's all they don't need a hearing. All you have to do is say you did it. And then I guess you get to send them to concentration camps in El Salvador or Libya or Djibouti or wherever the hell they're sending them. Here, play this clip. Well, it is worth noting the Constitution does say that all persons in the U.S.,

are entitled to due process. Doesn't make a distinction about citizenship. I do want to move on though, to this extraordinary fight. - But just one quick statement on that. The due process as the court has ruled on an American citizen is different than someone who's not legally present in the country. It's a faster process. Literally reading to them the statute and saying, this is what you violated does count as due process, depending on how they've actually entered into the country.

But I mean, the U.S. has provided due process even to terrorists. Senator, you're saying that people who are here who citizenship aren't entitled to due process, even though the Fifth Amendment. No, I'm not saying that at all. Yeah, I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying the due process is different for a citizen and a non-citizen. OK, it's a much faster process for a non-citizen. OK, let's go quite literally the Constitution.

requires that there be a hearing, that there be process. Let me be very clear where I stand. If you are a criminal, if you commit crimes in the United States, you need to be held accountable for those crimes. I'm a law and order person. You violate the law, throw the book at them. But that's not what's going on here at all.

Donald Trump's regime is going after hardworking migrants who are working in factories, who are at the Home Depot parking lot, who are in restaurants and hotels, who are going to their court appearances. That's who they're targeting. They're going into neighborhoods where migrants have had their American dream experience.

for decades, and they're ripping mothers apart from their children, fathers apart from their wives and kids. They're torturing. They're trying to engage in terror. Terror. That's what they're inflicting. Then you've got MAGA Republican Senator from Florida, Rick Scott, who was, by the way, involved in the biggest Medicare fraud and Medicaid fraud scam, fraud, in American history. He invoked the Fifth Amendment.

over 75 times. He got a golden parachute from his company, which settled the largest fraud, Medicare fraud case in history. That's how this guy got rich and went into politics. Here's what he has to say about raiding your Medicaid and Medicare. Play this clip. It's without chronic illness. Let's focus the program on what people need. But is

And get people healthy again. Keep people back to work. Is there an acknowledgement, though, that under the current framework of this bill, people will be, potentially millions of them, taken off of some of these programs? And I know the argument is that a lot of that is waste, fraud, and abuse. But is there an acknowledgement that there will be millions of people who will be transitioned off these programs and a question about where they'll go next?

Well, first off, the only way you're going to get off the program is if you say if you say you do not want to work. Like, I don't believe we ought to be providing free health care, free housing, free food that people that are able bodied can work and just say, I don't want to work.

No, get to work. This country, we got over 50 million people working age, not working. We've got to get this country back to work. But if you don't want to work. So you're not referring to people that are physically unable or are caretakers of those who are unable? No. I watched what my mom's face was like when my brother, when she found out my brother had a bone disease. I want these kids to get health care. I want people with chronic illness to get health care. But I don't want people gaming the system.

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went into a rug or did a rugby tackle of treasury secretary, Scott Besson and treasury secretary, Scott Besson had to punch Elon Musk back. And here on CNN, Mark Wayne Mullen says, you just, you don't get, you don't get in front of two fighters as a former fighter myself. You don't get between two fighters. Just act like grownups, act like adults. What are you talking about?

Could you imagine in a corporation or somewhere you work, they're just freaking punching each other in the face? It's not normal. It's not how adults behave. Here, play this clip. In post, there was an argument earlier this year between Musk and the Treasury Secretary Scott Besant. Literally came to blows. It had to be broken up. Are the men leading our country letting their emotions get in the way of governing?

Well, first of all, Dana is a former professional fighter. I've learned a long time ago, don't get between two fighters. Yeah, but you see, that's how MAGA behaves. And here you got the chief propagandist for the Trump regime, Caroline Leavitt. He or she is being asked about that fight. And, you know, she's all...

Let's watch it play the clip. Now, the president has said many times that his ultimate goal is to balance the budget. So we know where his heart is and where his priorities are. But, you know, Caroline, The Washington Post reported after speaking with Steve Bannon that Elon Musk aggressively body checked Treasury Secretary Scott Besant in the White House. We're all trying to figure out how.

What happened here and how come this got to this level? What happened? Did he body check the Treasury Secretary in the White House?

Well, look, when this story originally broke, I said from the podium that there have definitely been healthy disagreements amongst the cabinet and Elon Musk. There were times in which they got frustrated with one another. But I think that really speaks to the heart of this cabinet and the president's team, that they can have these robust disagreements and then still come together to do what's right for the people they are serving. Yeah, watch. I'm not even going to go there. You

get it. You get it while watching this. I don't even have to say it. The hell are we watching? The hell are we watching? So here you have the chief propagandist for the White House, Caroline Leavitt, attack ABC because Terry Moran, one of its chief political contributors, made a post critical of Stephen Miller and Donald Trump. He said that they have hate in their heart. Words to those effect. That's being generous.

Right. They have hate in their heart. So then the Trump regime calls up ABC, Disney and says, you got to suspend the guy. You got to fire him. He was mean to Donald Trump and Stephen Miller. He was mean. How how dare a newscaster be mean? And then Disney and ABC suspended Terry Moran. Here, watch this. Last night in a since deleted post, so-called journalist Terry Moran went on a rampage against Stephen Miller. What happened, Caroline?

Well, ABC is going to have to answer for what they're, again, so-called journalists put out on Twitter in the wee hours of the night calling Stephen Miller vile. They said that President Trump is a world class hater. And this is, again, coming from someone who is supposed to be an unbiased and professional journalist. This is unacceptable.

and unhinged rhetoric coming from someone who works at a major television network. We have reached out to ABC. They have said they will be taking action, so we will see what they do. And then you have Kristi Noem, who seems to be hanging out at the same locations as Caroline Leavitt.

Kristi Noem on CBS says, this is what she says about Donald Trump sending the National Guard and potentially the Marines against Americans in Los Angeles. Play this clip.

Back to the question, though, of active duty troops, different from the National Guard. What is your personal counsel here to the president? Because it's you, the attorney general and the secretary of defense. We're going to have a lot of responsibility here in implementing some of this call to do this.

Well, let me be clear about something. ICE and Homeland Security are running these operations right now. And the advice and counsel of the Attorney General of the Department of Defense are extremely important to the President of the United States. And we never discuss our personal conversations and advice to the President of the United States. He makes the decisions. He is the president that sits in that seat.

And we are all very proud to work for him. So I'm grateful for the leadership of Pete Hegseth and Pam Bondi, and I get the chance to work with them. And as I saw, it does their job today. We're thankful to have the partnership and the leadership of President Trump. Well, some Republican senators like Senator Lankford have said active duty Marines are not going to be put into local law enforcement. So there are Republican lawmakers questioning this. Here's what she says when she's asked about

that Donald Trump is going to, wants to make it unlawful for protesters to wear masks.

but make it obligatory for ICE officers to wear masks. And if you in any way try to photograph an ICE officer or let people know who they are who work for the government, then you get enhanced penalties or whatever. You're treated like a terrorist. Who the hell knows with this regime? Here's what she goes. She goes, the laws in this country are what we're doing. We're doing the laws.

We're doing the laws. What are you talking about? Here, play this clip. President Trump said masks will not be allowed to be worn at protests. Who's going to enforce that and how? And how can you justify it when law enforcement officials have their faces covered?

You know, what I would say is that the law is going to be enforced and that what the laws are in this country is what we are doing and our ICE officers and our law enforcement officers out there that are in these situations where people have questioned why they have their faces covered. It's for the safety.

those individuals or the work that they're doing as far as protecting their identity so they can continue to do investigative work. So are you tasking the National Guard soldiers with removing masks from protesters? I mean, are you trying to use them in that way?

National Guard soldiers are there to provide security for operations and to make sure that we have peaceful protests. So that's what their work is. And I won't get more specific on that just because we never do when it comes to law enforcement operations. We're doing the same standard procedures we always do and have for years in this country with our National Guard and with our law enforcement folks that are on the ground.

working with these communities. I like this moment where MAGA Mike Johnson was asked about the Epstein files. Let's play this clip. By the way, do you know what he's talking about with the Epstein files? I mean, what is... And why haven't those files been released? Have you...

Some of your members have said that they got to be released. As Cash said in the vignette earlier, he's FBI. That's not my lane. I don't know. I can tell you that I don't think we have no concern about President Trump or his involvement or any of that. And in terms of this threat. And here, Maga Mike Johnson was asked, so why did your budget bill focus on helping people who own tanning beds? Why did you help the tanning bed? Was it because Mr.

Orange, whatever you call them. Mango Mussolini, I think I was talking about. Is that why you were, why are you giving, why is your budget bill addressing tanning beds while screwing over the people? And MAGA Mike's, well, look, the tanning bed industry really needs a lot of help right now. Joe Biden did it. And then ABC host is like, no, he didn't. This was from 2010. Biden didn't do anything. Biden hurt. Biden hurt.

These guys are such fools playing this clip. What about tanning beds? It eliminates a 10% tax on tanning beds. I mean, how did that become a priority? Well, look, I think that was an unfair thing that the Biden administration put on an industry because they decided- It was actually, it goes back to 2010. It's been around for 15 years. Yes, but the Biden administration enhanced it. And there will be modifications probably to that in the final package as well. But we'll see how it comes out. Okay, so Mega Mike,

Why was there a provision in the budget bill to remove all regulations from gun silencers? Why was that? Gun silencers? That's one of the big beneficiaries. And then MAGA Mike's like, well, yeah, the Second Amendment means gun silence, whatever you want. Go bring them wherever. All good. All good. Play this clip. One, there's a provision that eliminates...

attacks on gun silencers. Now this is a tax that has been on the books for about 100 years.

Why are you suddenly cutting a tax on silencers? Well, there's a lot of thought and deliberation that went into that as well. The Second Amendment is a critical freedom in the Constitution. And there's no real rationale for adding taxes on these pieces of equipment. And we had the votes to do it. I think it was a long time overdue. I think we have to protect the fundamental freedoms of the American people. And there's no rationale the government should not be making money on something that you have a fundamental inalienable right to. What about-

And then finally, you have the chief economic guy at the White House, Kevin Hassett, who's asked, so what are we doing with the idea? Are the deals negotiating down the tariffs? What's the point of these? And then Kevin Hassett's like, tariffs aren't going away. We're going to keep the tariffs. Play this clip. You are saying tariffs are staying put.

This is where I'm stuck because deals is about negotiating down the tariffs. So that's a diminishing source of revenue over time. But are you saying that there will be blanket tariffs?

Last year, before we got here, we were raising $80 billion a year in tariffs. Right now, the CBO projects that we're going to get $2.8 trillion over the next 10 years. Exactly where the number ends up is going to depend on how much foreign countries open up their markets to our products and how well they treat our farmers. So you don't know how much revenue you're going to have. But revenue was $80 billion last year. Tariff revenue is not going away. That's what I'm saying.

But we don't know what the tariffs are going to be. We're negotiating them on a country by country basis. We've got a whole bunch of trade deals. We've got a trade deal with the UK. You can see what the trade deal with the UK is now. Right. So it's a fluctuating number. It's not a constant. Well, there you have it, folks. Ridiculous. I don't know how you won. These are the worst humans. Like just objectively the worst. Objectively, these are the worst people. I don't think you could find worse people. We would be so much better with no one.

Just let the states go on, like put Biden's economy and Biden stuff just on cruise control, autopilot, do nothing. Like we literally have the worst people possible in every single position whose job is to like make things worse right now.

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