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Trump Is Thrown Under the Bus by His Own FBI Director

2025/6/7
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Ben Meiselas: 作为MeidasTouch的主持人,我认为特朗普被他自己任命的FBI局长卡什·帕特尔背叛了。帕特尔在与乔·罗根的访谈中,面对伊隆·马斯克关于特朗普与爱泼斯坦有关联的指控时,没有为特朗普辩护,这令人震惊。马斯克声称,特朗普的名字出现在爱泼斯坦的文件中,而帕特尔对此事的回应是“我不参与”。此外,特朗普本人对马斯克的态度也显得冷淡,甚至对性交易犯Ghislaine Maxwell表示“祝她一切都好”,这些都加剧了人们对特朗普与爱泼斯坦关系的质疑。我强调,特朗普的名字在已公开的爱泼斯坦飞行记录中多次出现,并且有证词表明特朗普在未成年少女时期就与爱泼斯坦有接触。这些事实都指向一个令人不安的可能性,即特朗普与爱泼斯坦的性交易网络有牵连。 Joe Rogan: 我在节目中提出了对特朗普不利的质疑,包括埃隆·马斯克关于特朗普与爱泼斯坦有关联的指控。我直接询问卡什·帕特尔对此事的看法,但帕特尔选择不参与,这让我感到困惑。我认为,如果特朗普真的与爱泼斯坦有牵连,那么真相最终会浮出水面。同时,我也表达了对公众人物在社交媒体上争论的担忧,认为这不利于心理健康。 Kash Patel: 作为前FBI局长,我在乔·罗根的节目中被问及特朗普与爱泼斯坦的关系。面对伊隆·马斯克的指控,我选择不直接参与争论,因为我认为此事超出了我的职责范围。我当时表示,我不参与特朗普和埃隆的事情,那超出了我的范围。但我同时强调,我不会向美国民众隐瞒信息,并且正在努力处理爱泼斯坦事件,以揭露真相。我需要更多的时间来调查和整理相关信息,以确保公众能够获得可靠的信息。 Donald Trump: 我对伊隆·马斯克的态度是冷淡的,我表示“我祝他一切都好”。当被问及与爱泼斯坦的关系时,我没有直接回应,而是强调自己专注于处理国家大事。此外,我曾对性交易犯Ghislaine Maxwell表示“祝她一切都好”,这引发了争议。我希望公众能够理解,我的言论并不代表我对性交易行为的认可,而是出于一种礼貌性的表达。 Sean Hannity: 作为特朗普的支持者,我认为伊隆·马斯克对特朗普的指控是出于个人恩怨。马斯克对特朗普取消电动汽车补贴感到不满,因此试图通过爱泼斯坦事件来抹黑特朗普。我强调,特朗普早在20年前就将爱泼斯坦赶出了海湖庄园,这表明特朗普对爱泼斯坦的恶行有所察觉。此外,我认为应该调查比尔·克林顿与爱泼斯坦的关系,因为克林顿也与爱泼斯坦有密切联系。 Carl Higby: 我对特朗普和伊隆·马斯克之间的争端感到遗憾,我认为马斯克对特朗普的指控是“低级的攻击”。我质疑,如果特朗普真的与爱泼斯坦有牵连,为什么拜登政府没有利用法律手段对付他?此外,我认为特朗普应该公布爱泼斯坦名单,以消除公众的疑虑。 Charlie Kirk: 我认为特朗普与爱泼斯坦的关系被夸大了。特朗普住在棕榈滩,因此他的名字出现在爱泼斯坦的文件中并不奇怪。我认为特朗普绝对不在爱泼斯坦的客户名单上。此外,我也指出小罗伯特·肯尼迪也与爱泼斯坦有联系,以说明与爱泼斯坦有接触并不一定意味着参与了性交易。 RFK Jr.: 我承认自己曾两次乘坐杰弗里·爱泼斯坦的飞机,但强调当时并不知道爱泼斯坦的恶行。我认为所有关于爱泼斯坦的信息都应该公开,以揭露真相。

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Donald Trump didn't expect it, frankly. I don't even think Kash Patel expected what was going to happen to unfold while he was doing this weird interview with Joe Rogan. But while he's doing this interview with Joe Rogan, that's the moment that Elon Musk starts posting about the secrets that he knows about Donald Trump and that the Elon Musk posted this. You know this.

that the reason that the Epstein files have not been released by the Department of Justice is because Donald Trump is all over the Epstein list and that Donald Trump and the DOJ Attorney General, Pam Bondi and Kash Patel are covering it up to try to save and protect Donald Trump. Now, Elon Musk isn't just some random character. He was basically the co-president, right? Donald Trump exalted this guy to, you know, some co-president status.

And Elon Musk is saying that. So here's what goes down. You have Kash Patel, who doesn't really even know what his job is as the FBI director. So he's there chilling with Joe Rogan. Elon Musk starts posting about Donald Trump being on the Epstein list. So Joe Rogan asks Kash Patel about it. Now, Kash Patel has the files.

We know he has the files on his desk. Attorney General Pam Bondi said that she had it on her desk, that she gave it to Kash Patel, and that Kash Patel and the FBI and the DOJ are going through it. So Rogan asks Kash Patel, what do you make of this, that Elon Musk is saying this about Donald Trump? And then Kash Patel doesn't take Donald Trump's side. Kash Patel doesn't say, I'm

I know that Trump's not on the list. I know that Elon is lying. That's BS. Kash Patel goes, I'm just going to stay out of this one. I'm going to stay out of this one. That was his answer. Not defending Donald Trump. And I'm going to stay out of this one. I want you to watch what took place here. Play this clip. This is going to come up because it's been going on since we've been recording here. Oh.

Uh-oh. Elon and Trump seem to be in a little bit of a spat, Joe. You want to check the tweet that Elon just put out a little bit ago? Time to drop the really big bomb. Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That's the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day. Jesus Christ. I'm not participating in any of that conversation between Elon and Trump. Have a nice day, DJ D. Someone should take his phone away. They're going back and forth about different things. Yeah. Well, he said he was disappointed in Elon. Yeah.

Yeah, he told him to leave. Jesus Christ, that's a crazy thing to say. How does he know? Does he know that Donald Trump is in the Epstein files? Does he have access to the Epstein files? I don't know how he would, but I'm just staying out of the Trump-Elon thing. That's way outside my lane. What the fuck are they doing? I know my lane and that ain't it. I just don't.

I mean, I understand he owns Twitter. I think it's bad for your mental health. I think posting things public all day and arguing with people all day is bad for you. Where there's smoke, there's fire. And oh boy, there's a lot going on right here. So Donald Trump was asked on Air Force One about Elon Musk, and he's been reaffirming

really standoffish about answering any questions about Musk. Musk knows where the bodies are buried. So Donald Trump goes, I just wish him well. I wish him well. Here, play this clip. What's your view on Elon Musk as of today? I mean, have you heard from him at all? Honestly, I've been so busy working on China, working on Russia, working on Iran, working on so many things. I'm not thinking about him. I just wish him well. I just wish him well.

Who else did Donald Trump wish well? Who else did Donald Trump say, I wish her well? Oh, we got the receipts. Ghislaine Maxwell, the person who was the lead trafficker, sex trafficker for Jeffrey Epstein, who was very close friends with Donald Trump. Remember during the first Trump administration where Trump said,

during Ghislaine Maxwell's sex trafficking trial. I wish her well. That was his response to it. Here, play this clip. Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison, and a lot of people want to know if she's going to turn in powerful people. And I know you've talked in the past about Prince Andrew, and you've criticized Bill Clinton's behavior. I'm wondering, do you feel that she's going to turn in powerful men? How do you see that working out?

I don't know. I haven't really been following it too much. I just wish her well, frankly. I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach. And I guess they lived in Palm Beach. But I wish her well, whatever it is. I don't know the situation with Prince Andrew. Just don't know. Not aware of it. Now, I just want to talk about the facts. You've seen me do videos on Trump's connections with Epstein before. So let me just give you the facts. Fact number one.

on the limited flight logs from Epstein's jet that have been released, Donald Trump's name appears over seven times on that list. Now, there's more flight logs that exist that just haven't been produced, but of what's been produced, Trump's on the flight log seven times.

Donald Trump's all over the depositions in the various Epstein criminal and civil cases, like over here, where one of Epstein's victims said, Jeffrey said, great, we'll call up Trump and we'll go to one of his casinos. At Ghislaine Maxwell's trial, someone who is now an adult said,

But at the time she met Trump, she was 14 years old. She was just a girl. Jane Doe. She says, Jeffrey Epstein introduced me to Trump at 14 years.

One of Ghislaine Maxwell's accusers said that was Jane Doe. We know that in other cases involving Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump is identified as Doe 174. There's a lot of redactions and things that haven't been released, but Trump is Doe 174.

It'd be easy to get. If we have the Epstein files, I would just say, show me all this stuff related to the conduct by dose 174 and Epstein. Another fact, Donald Trump is in Jeffrey Epstein's personal address book. Full list of contacts here, but you have all of kind of Trump's phone numbers that were there. Another fact, I'm just giving you undisputed facts. You can't rebut these facts. You can make of them what you are, what you will, but you can't rebut these facts.

Jeffrey Epstein would find the little girls he trafficked at Mar-a-Lago. For example, again, this is undisputed, Virginia Giuffre, who's now died by suicide out of nowhere, died by suicide a few weeks back. She was homeless.

She got a job at Mar-a-Lago somehow. While she was working at Mar-a-Lago, in comes Ghislaine Maxwell. Ghislaine Maxwell says, if you want to make some more money, Virginia, I want to introduce you to Jeffrey Epstein. She goes over to Epstein as a minor, and then they start trafficking Virginia Giuffre, and then she...

She gets sexually assaulted by Prince Andrew, and she was one of the more high-profile victims who told her horrific stories, and that's what she alleged about Prince Andrew.

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The answer to that is the same as everything else. I'm not going to

withhold information from the American public ever. But I'm also not going to rush to get it out there in a format in which they can't rely on it. So on the Epstein matter or any other matters, we are diligently working on that. And it takes time to go through years of investigations, years of political maneuvering, and years of cover-up to get the American people what they deserve. And that's what I'm going to give them on everything. Now, the time that they are all trying to buy...

is so that they can try to come up with excuses. They're trying to figure out the best way to message this. And I'll show you how Donald Trump's propaganda regime is messaging this. So you have, let's take a look first at what Sean Hannity says.

Sean Hannity spends a huge amount of time at the end of last week defending Trump on Epstein. Here's what Hannity says. Play this clip. And it got personal. Elon Musk claiming, oh, Trump is in the Epstein files. That's the real reason they have not been made public. Well, it's been well known that Donald Trump said...

that Elon was angry over Trump's decision to end the electric vehicle mandate. I can certainly understand why Elon, you know, wants that in the one big beautiful bill. Pretty obvious, pretty apparent, understandable difference. And on the Epstein issue, wasn't it Donald Trump? He booted Epstein

out of Mar-a-Lago nearly 20 years ago, because he was one of the first people to realize just how horrible Epstein really was. And by all accounts, he was kicked out because of his treatment of young women. Now, Democrats and the media, I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm just wondering, putting two and two together. I truly wonder if our old friend, Bill Clinton, how you doing? Good to talk to you. We know he had a relationship with Epstein. That's been reported on.

Is Bill Clinton, is he in those files also? I can't say for sure, I haven't seen them, but if I was a betting man, I know where I'd put my money. Now, if by some chance that Bill Clinton is in there, I wonder if he kicked Epstein out of his life as publicly as Donald Trump did. I guess if Donald Trump felt that Epstein had something on him, he probably wouldn't have kicked him out of his club.

Inquiring minds, I think they'll want to know that. Now here's what Newsmax's Carl Higby had to say about Trump and it being on the Epstein list. Play this clip. Still love Trump and I really like Elon.

This is just a really crappy scenario right now, and I really hope these two can patch these things up, because I think Elon took a low blow by tweeting that, quote, "DJT was on the Epstein client list." I mean, something that he knows can't be immediately verified. Also, if Trump was on that island doing something illegal, after all the legal battles that Biden threw at him, if he had done something illegal with Jeffrey Epstein, you would think they would have thrown that at him, no? They pulled out the stops on everything else.

The only thing we can point to that was a known association with Epstein was that he was at his club once. And by the way, Trump kicked him out of that club because of reported bad behavior. And also, Elon, if you knew he was on the Epstein client list, why did you let him board Marine One with your son? Just asking.

But the best thing for Trump to do now is to release the list, something that also our FBI and Pam Bondi have promised us. Now, here's what Charlie Kirk had to say. Play this clip. Now, 10 years later, we're supposed to believe there's going to be a smoking gun of something in the Epstein files.

But what is in the Epstein files is, yes, President Donald Trump is probably mentioned. He was mentioned in the Epstein file dump back in February. You know why? He lived in Palm Beach. There's probably thousands of names in the Epstein files. Was he part of the Epstein client list? Absolutely not. That is complete nonsense. But to say that Donald Trump is not releasing the Epstein files because he's in them in some incriminating way. Yes, absolutely.

it's very clear that if you live in palm beach you might have been mentioned and caught up in some sort of conversation with jeffrey epstein now one of the other things i want to point out is it wasn't just trump that had all these strong connections with epstein of course um you had rfk jr previously went on fox back on december 5th 2023 and here's what he said about his connections with epstein play this clip you weren't ever on jeffrey epstein's jet were you

I was on Jeffrey Epstein's jet two times. I was on it in 1993, and I went to Florida with my wife and two children to visit my mom over Easter. My wife had some kind of relationship with Glenn Maxwell, and

They offered us a ride to Palm Beach. So I went then and then on another occasion, I flew again with my family, with I think four of my children and Mary, my wife, to Rapid City, South Dakota,

to go fossil hunting for a weekend. But otherwise, I was never on his jet alone. I've been very open about this from the beginning. This was in '93, so it was 30 years ago. It was before anybody knew about Jeffrey Epstein's nefarious issues. And I agree with you that all of this information should be released

And we should get real answers on what happened to Jeffrey Epstein and any of the high level political people that he was involved with. All of that should be open to the public. It should be absolutely transparent. And, you know, I don't see why any of those records would have any redactions in them. Why would we be hiding that from the American public? So.

You can put all these pieces together. Oh, and then Donald Trump in, was it 2002? Said Jeffrey Epstein's a great guy who likes women on the younger side. That was a direct quote. Not to mention Donald Trump sponsored

teen bathing suit pageants, teens walking around girls in bathing suits, and also just adult swimsuit competitions and girl swimsuit competitions. And Trump would say that he would inspect them naked. And he said, because he's the host or he's the owner of the pageant that he gets to inspect naked. He says he's like a doctor who inspects women naked is what he said. Girls naked. Horrible stuff. Horrible, horrible stuff.

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