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Trump’s Dark Past Is Exposed by Protestors Who Remember

2025/6/15
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Anna Paulina Luna
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Ben Meiselas
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Charlie Kirk
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Donald Trump
批评CHIPS Act,倡导使用关税而非补贴来促进美国国内芯片制造。
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Eric Swalwell
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Jared Moskowitz
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Kash Patel
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Sean Hannity
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Ted Lieu
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Ben Meiselas: 在No Kings抗议活动中,人们关注特朗普的掠夺性过去,包括性侵犯指控、与爱泼斯坦的关系等。我看到了很多标语,要求公开爱泼斯坦的文件,揭露特朗普在其中的角色。我认为特朗普任命的右翼播客主持人现在负责联邦调查局,这很值得关注,因为他们之前曾是公开爱泼斯坦名单的主要推动者,但现在却不愿发布。我认为他们可能试图转移我们的注意力,或者编辑和隐藏信息。 Kash Patel: 我作为司法部官员,会尽力提供一切信息,但我们不会重新伤害女性。如果真的有视频显示有人在岛上犯罪,我负责的话,你们肯定会看到的。 Donald Trump: 我愿意解密爱泼斯坦的文件,但不想影响人们的生活,因为其中可能有很多虚假信息。调查爱泼斯坦的死因会很有趣,因为那是一个奇怪的情况,而且摄像头恰好没有工作。 Anna Paulina Luna: 我一直试图获取杰弗里·爱泼斯坦的文件,但司法部一直说他们正在审查文件,没有给我任何时间表。我被委任负责解密工作组,以调查司法部长办公室发布的文件。我认为联邦调查局发现特朗普总统赢得选举后,就开始了他们的“深层政府”闹剧。美国人民希望真相,我们不希望有删减。 Sean Hannity: 公布爱泼斯坦的文件是透明的,但名单上的人并不意味着他们做错了什么。我们相信无罪推定,即使这些名字现在是公开信息,我也确信有些人没有参与或知情。特朗普在1990年代多次乘坐爱泼斯坦的私人飞机,但这并不是新信息。 Charlie Kirk: 特朗普可能在爱泼斯坦的文件中被提及,因为他住在棕榈滩,但他绝对不是爱泼斯坦的客户。 Ted Lieu: 特朗普与爱泼斯坦关系密切,乘坐他的飞机,并出现在通话记录中。我认为这表明他不适合担任公职,而且他被民事法庭判犯有性侵犯,并在另一家法庭被判犯有34项重罪,他应该退出竞选。 Jared Moskowitz: 当被问及杰弗里·爱泼斯坦时,唐纳德·特朗普说“杰弗里喜欢年轻的”,他是怎么知道的? Eric Swalwell: 埃隆·马斯克对特朗普提出了很多批评,我认为这是值得欢迎的。特朗普没有起诉埃隆·马斯克诽谤,这非常说明问题,也让民主党人意识到我们需要了解特朗普下令司法部对美国人民隐瞒了什么。

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This chapter analyzes the protest signs at the No Kings Protest, focusing on their content related to Donald Trump's alleged connections to Jeffrey Epstein. The signs highlight Trump's past, calling him names like 'sexual abuser' and 'Epstein's close friend'. The protesters demand the release of the Epstein files to shed light on Trump's potential involvement.
  • Protestors displayed signs highlighting Trump's alleged relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
  • Signs called Trump names like 'sexual abuser' and 'felon'.
  • Protesters demanded the release of the Epstein files.

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I saw a lot of signs of people asking the right types of questions right now and putting this issue front and center. Donald Trump's disgusting, predatory past.

Donald Trump, the sexual abuser. Donald Trump, the felon. Donald Trump, the bankruptor. Donald Trump, Epstein's close friend who said Epstein was a great guy. Signs like this. Stand by your man. A photo of Donald Trump clubbing and partying with Epstein. A sign like this. Trump killed Epstein. You're next. That's what that sign says. That's not what I'm saying, but that's what that sign says.

Or how about Daniel, who goes, do you like my protest sign? It says, Gulf of Donald J. Trump was friends with Jeffrey Epstein for 25 years. I like that sign, Daniel. How about this sign right here? Trump partying with Epstein. Sick. Simple. Tyrant. Or this sign. Release the Epstein files. Phase two.

Just release the files. Remember what they said, phase one, where they had all those right wing influencers, what, four months ago at this point, hold up the binders and said, we got it. Here are the files. And it was actually just Epstein's like call list. And Donald Trump's name was actually on it. And that was released several years ago, actually.

We know Donald Trump's name is on the Epstein files and the list based on the files and the lists that had been previously released in other court cases.

But we want to see the whole files because Donald Trump is Doe 172 in that. I want to see what Doe 172 was up to. Don't you? I want to see what was going down at Mar-a-Lago because we know Virginia Giuffre, for example, who unalived herself recently. She died by suicide in Australia and

She was an underage girl. She was previously homeless.

somehow got a job at Mar-a-Lago and she was recruited there by Epstein through Ghislaine Maxwell, who went there, brought her to Epstein from Mar-a-Lago. And then Donald Trump at the sex trafficking trial of Ghislaine Maxwell wished her well at that same sex trafficking criminal trial. A woman, someone who's now a woman at the time, was an underage girl, was 14 years old, said that she was introduced there

to Trump by Epstein when she was a 14-year-old girl. Release the damn files. Donald Trump is all over Epstein's flight log based on what's been released, all over deposition transcripts of what's been released. Epstein was on Trump's plane before. We know that. Release the damn files.

Here's another sign right here. Give no cover to convicts. Trump partying with Epstein. More signs. Release the Epstein list. I saw a ton of signs like this when I was at the protest here in Pasadena. What's really interesting and really telling as well are those right-wing podcasters who Donald Trump has now made the head of his FBI team.

And the deputy FBI director, Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, respectively, they were like some of the top purveyors of the release the Epstein list. We're going to get the Epstein list. So,

Interesting that the people who were saying release the list, we need to get this out there, were made by Donald Trump to be the freaking head of the FBI. And when they were positioned there, they're now saying that they're not going to release it or it's just going to take some time and it's not being released.

They want to distract us and they think this is just going to go away. Or they're trying to redact and hide information. I mean, the New York Times finally did a story on it. Once champions of fringe causes, just say it,

Trump's friendship with Epstein and more than that now in a trap of their own making. The top leaders at the Justice Department and FBI are struggling to fulfill Trump campaign promises, often rooted in misinformation and conspiracy theories. It's a weird way of framing it. Just release the freaking Epstein files. You said you were going to release it. So remember, so remember what it's like.

end of last week or middle of last week when you had Kash Patel go on Joe Rogan and said, you know what? There's not a lot of footage actually on the Epstein Island, not a lot of footage. And then he tries to act like we don't want to release this stuff because we don't want to re-victimize the people. That's why we don't want to release it. Here's what he says here. Play this clip. The narrative has always been that there's video, but what about the video from the island?

Again, we're going to give you everything we can. And people have to remember, we're not going to re-victimize women. We're not going to put that shit back out there. It's not happening because then he wins. Not doing it. You want to hate me for it? Fine. Again, logical play out. If there was a video of some guy or gal committing felonies on an island and I'm in charge, don't you think you'd see it? Right. If you have it. Right. But you can't say that you have it.

No, we're giving you everything we have. And is there video from the island? Not of what you want. So this narrative might not be accurate, that there's video of these guys doing this. Exactly. Have you guys reviewed everything that you have? Almost. I mean, yes, we have, and now we're figuring out how to put it out. But is there footage? If there was footage of anyone doing anything else, we would have opened a case.

If there was a video of some guy or gal committing felonies on an island and I'm in charge, don't you think you'd see it? But remember when Donald Trump about a year ago regarding the Epstein files, Trump said a year ago that he would not release them.

So remember what he said during this interview? Here, play this clip. Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah, yeah, I would. All right. Yes, I would. I think that less so because, you know, you don't know. You don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there because it's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world. But I think I would or at least... Do you think that would restore trust?

Help restore trust? - Yeah, I don't know about Epstein so much as I do the others. Certainly about the way he died, it would be interesting to find out what happened there, 'cause that was a weird situation and the cameras didn't happen to be working, et cetera, et cetera. But yeah, I'd go a long way toward that one. The other stuff I would. - Now, Anna Paulina Luna, who literally, she's like as MAGA as you get, she's as trumped up as you get.

She has a whole task force in Congress of release the Epstein files. That's like her subcommittee. She's like the Epstein subcommittee. Here's what she had to say on April 8th. Play this clip. The one thing I've been very frustrated with, Matt, is that I have tried very hard to obtain the Jeffrey Epstein files. I have been contacting the Department of Justice. I've even chased down the FBI. And I keep getting the same thing. We are reviewing documents. I don't believe that the...

process has been as good as the JFK rollout and the MLK and RFK rollout will be. And so I'm going to continue to put pressure on the DOJ to release that information. Look, there's bad people that haven't been charged for doing really horrible things with underage people. Has the DOJ given you any timeline on that, Ana? No. In fact, I haven't really gotten any communication from the DOJ. And here's what she had to say on March 1st, 2025. Play this clip. What's going on with the Epstein files, Congresswoman?

Well, you know, I'm really actually happy that you asked that question. So I was tasked with the task force on declassification to look forward and investigate the files once they are released from the attorney general's office. Now, I want to be clear about something. What we found in the last couple of weeks and what's definitely apparent is there's absolutely a war taking place in the intelligence agencies, right? We saw the CIA was reporting that they're worried about their own people leaking secrets to foreign countries.

And we were also notified last week that there was a whistleblower that came forward stating that there was evidence being destroyed at the FBI. As soon as the FBI found out President Trump won the election, they started their deep state nonsense. And so I have full faith in Kash Patel and A.G. Bondi to deliver those files. But I want to be very clear about something. The American people want the truth. We don't want redactions.

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And it's just interesting, right, to see Hannity and Charlie Kirk and all these right-wing influencers. Yeah.

kind of make the excuses for Donald Trump. Like here's what Hannity said, let's play it. - Today, the attorney general, Pam Bondi released phase one of the Epstein files. That's transparency. There are a lot of names in there and Epstein was obviously a star chaser who wanted to hang out with people that are famous, people with money. So let me be very clear at the start here. And I said this on my radio show today, people, because they're in the Rolodex, they're on the list does not mean they did anything wrong.

On this show, and we have done it over and over again, we don't rush to judgment. We believe in the presumption of innocence. And I am appealing to people not to rush to judgment. Even though these names are now public information, there are names that I'm certain were not involved or knowledgeable of this. I could be certain of it.

Among the documents are flight logs in which President Donald Trump is named several times. According to the records, Trump flew on Epstein's private jets repeatedly back in the 1990s. Now, this isn't new information as it had previously been made public. And here's what Charlie Kirk had to say. Let's play it. Now, 10 years later, we're supposed to believe there's going to be a smoking gun of something in the Epstein files.

But what is in the Epstein files is, yes, President Donald Trump is probably mentioned. He was mentioned in the Epstein file dump back in February. You know why? He lived in Palm Beach. There's probably thousands of names in the Epstein files. Was he part of the Epstein client list? Absolutely not. That is complete nonsense. But to say that Donald Trump is not releasing the Epstein files because he's in them in some incriminating way. Yes, absolutely.

It's very clear that if you live in Palm Beach, you might have been mentioned and caught up in some sort of conversation with Jeffrey Epstein. Let's go back to last year. Democratic lawmakers, Ted Lieu, Democratic Congress member Ted Lieu. Here's what he said last year. Play the clip. So like Chairman Aguilar said, we hear a lot from our constituents on different issues. But something I've heard that doesn't seem to be being covered are the Epstein files.

These files were released and like Donald Trump sort of all over this, right? There are pictures of him with Jeffrey Epstein. He's taking multiple plane flights with Epstein with young girls on board. He is on call logs with Epstein. One of the highest trending hashtags on Twitter right now is about Trump and Epstein. I'm not going to repeat the hashtag because we're in a dignified setting.

But yeah, y'all might want to look at that because that's highly disturbing. And again, it shows that Donald Trump is unfit for office. And by the way, he was convicted in a civilian court for sexual assault, convicted in a separate court of 34 felonies. Donald Trump should drop out of the race. Here's what Democratic Congress member Moskowitz said last year. Let's play that clip. And so again, because the gentle lady from from the gentle lady from Georgia, uh,

I know is such an advocate for women's rights, as she mentioned, and is so concerned about grooming, and apparently we don't have any standards here anymore. Again, I just want to remind my colleagues, because, you know, I don't want them to forget about hypocrisy, okay? I don't want them to forget about hypocrisy, okay?

But, you know, Donald Trump was asked about Jeffrey Epstein. And when he was asked, he said, you know, Jeffrey likes him young. How did the president know that? How did he know that Jeffrey Epstein likes him young? Perhaps some people are saying he was there since you're so concerned. Right. But again, again, I bring this up not not to make jest. I bring it up. I bring it up.

I thought we weren't going to interrupt. We're going to stop the clock. We did this with Ms. Green. Take your point. I'm just curious about the impugning of the former president's character. I don't have to do that. He does that himself. Have we basically thrown that rule out? I'm just curious. Are we going to follow that rule? Would you accept a pornographic photo? Of Bill Clinton? Yeah. We suspended the rule to...

the current president, but we didn't suspend it to the former president. By the way, please. So you're making the point that we can disparage Joe Biden, but not Donald Trump. Please make that point to the American people, please. Bill Clinton is not running for office. That's my point. And look, this is the footage. I mean, here's Donald Trump partying with Epstein. I mean, we know they partied together like and more than that. Here, play this clip.

We're going to get great ratings on your show. Trump is surrounded by women as music blares in the background. After a while, Trump goes to greet three new guests, among them the financier Jeffrey Epstein. More than a decade before his guilty plea on state prostitution charges. Later in the footage, Trump is seen talking to Epstein and another man as women are dancing in front of them.

alternates between dancing and pointing out women to Epstein and the other man and telling Epstein about the cameras. Though exactly what they say is difficult to understand as they discuss the women and their appearances, Trump gestures to one and appears to say to Epstein, look at her back there. She's hot.

And then Trump says something else into Epstein's ear that makes him double over with laughter. But as the president says now, he never liked Epstein. Our friend, Congress member Eric Swalwell makes a great point right here. He goes, Trump's the most litigious guy. He sues everyone for everything, but he doesn't sue Elon Musk for saying that he's on the Epstein list.

He doesn't sue Elon for that or go after Elon for that. Trump just takes it. Here, play this clip. Elon's been making a lot of bail threats against Trump. Some he's deleted, some he hasn't. He's talked whimsically about maybe sorting out a new party. But say for argument's sake, he wanted to come back to the Democrats, where he originally was a supporter of the Democrats.

I mean, all the people that seem to hate Musk most in America right now used to love him. Would you welcome him back with open arms, Elon Musk, if he decided to go back to where he was originally politically?

What I welcome right now, and I encourage others to welcome, is his honest criticism of Donald Trump. We were right to oppose doge cuts that fired cancer scientists or reduced air traffic controllers. But it's wrong if anybody wants to shut him down as he is honestly bringing to light some of the corruption he saw at the White House. In fact,

There's probably no one in the world who lost more money in a single day than Elon Musk for what he said about Donald Trump. And what I say to the Epstein allegation that he made is Donald Trump is the most litigious person who's ever walked this earth.

If Elon Musk tweeted at me and said that I was in the Epstein files, he would have a lawsuit on his desk within an hour. The fact that Donald Trump, the most litigious person in the world, has not yet sued Elon Musk for defamation is very, very telling and very alarming and a signal to Democrats that we need to understand at the Department of Justice. What exactly has Donald Trump ordered them to conceal from the American people?

But then Anna Paulina Luna, who's on the Epstein task force, she posts the following. This is what she posted yesterday. Happy birthday to the greatest president of my lifetime. America's lucky and blessed to have this man leading our great nation. And then she tries to spread a conspiracy that Vance Bolter, the assassin who killed the Democratic state representative,

And tried to kill the Democratic state senator and had a list where he tried to kill all these Democratic politicians and all these pro-choice people and all these Democratic people and had a no king sign because he was going to try to potentially kill people at the no kings protest.

Anna Paulina Luna acts like this guy is a Democrat and she tries to spread that, you know, that that this guy was out there and oh, he's he's well, he's Tim. Well, he's Governor Tim Walz's friend, you know, and all the misinformation that came from the right wing because this guy was on a hold over his Vance is murdering.

This murderer assassin, Vance Bolter, he was on a committee that was previously in the Republican administration with like dozens of people on it that just rolled over into the Walls administration. They tried to act like, oh, this was like Walls' friend when that's not the case at all. It was a radicalized, far right-wing extremist, Trump supporter group.

type of person who, and we know he's a Trump supporter because his roommate talked about that he's a Trump supporter. His views were like Timothy McVeigh style views. But Anna Paulina Loon is now on that conspiracy and she's moved away of talking about Epstein because, well, well, well, Donald Trump doesn't want that to be the topic. But the people know, hence the signs.

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