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What's up everybody? This is Nate Bargetze at the Nateland Podcast. Thank you for listening. Thank you for tuning in. All the stuff. All the stuff you're doing. You're doing it. It's going great. I'm here with Aaron Weber and Bryce. Brian Bates. Already started. Two very funny local comedians. Does that get old? We're all local comedians.

It's fun to say it every time. Thank you guys. You guys have been awesome. Everybody's been very, very nice. Everybody's, you know, as usual, we appreciate it. You know, we're plugging along. I think we're figuring it out, keeping it going. I start everything the same way.

Just doing that. So, you know, I guess we dive in, right? Yeah. To some comments. As usual, we want to start with your comments. If you're not a fan of this part, fast forward. I mean, it's, you know, on YouTube, it shows, it breaks down everything. What do you mean? They put the timestamps up. They put the timestamps up. I mean, you could. Oh, yeah. You go to YouTube and you could just. One click, you're past it. You're past it. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, and that's what we're here for. Just easy moving along. Nate says everyone's been very nice. Now let's read the comments. Let's read the comments. This paper says I begged a different price of that whole sauce. Nate somehow managed to twist the phrase contrary to popular belief to popular to disbelief. And I'm not sure you can ever recover from that. I said popular to disbelief. Yeah.

A few people pointed that out. A few people pointed that out. Yeah, but you know what? I think I saw one. Someone was like, it's the same thing. Is it not? Contrary to popular belief, this is popular to disbelief. Is that not the same thing?

I need to diagram it, dude. I can't, there's a lot going on there. But is it mean the same thing? Contrary. Think about this. Contrary to popular belief. So popular belief, the opposite of popular belief, right? Right. Popular to disbelief. So if you don't, it's getting right to the point. It's actually better. It's actually better. Popular to disbelief. Uh,

This next one, I don't know how you're going to defend this one. Tuna85. Nate, I don't have many things with sentimental value either. Sentimental. What is it? Sentimental? Yeah. Sentimental. It's cinnamon things. Someone also pointed out you mentioned Holly first, then your wife and child. For what? You were like, you know, I lost something. My dog, my wife, my child. In that order. In that order.

Whoever I can get to, they're all very sentimental. Sentimental. A lot of bumper stickers. We'll be a sell them. Sentimental value. Bumper sticker. I don't know. We're not. Based Nate Knight.

So fellow Nate, don't throw me under the bus, buddy. Based on the difficulty with the vocabulary in the comments, I think Aaron hides his intelligence to make Nate feels more at ease. Aaron, is that true? Absolutely not. I'm bored. I think you're, you're sort of, are you a prodigy of something?

At what? I don't know. You play the piano really well. I think you're smarter than you're letting on. Oh, did you pretend not to know? If I'm doing that, I'm not doing it to make you feel at ease. Yeah. That's kind of... Well, I don't want that. But if you are super smart and you're holding back... I feel like I'm decent at a lot of things. I'm not a prodigy at any one thing. But you could be in the room. With the prodigies, you'd be the interviewer of the prodigies.

Oh, yeah. That's a good... Because you could be like, I can talk about all of your things that you guys do. I could be like inside the actor's studio. Yes. I could do that. Yes. Okay. All right. Are you dumbing it down for Nate? No. Okay. Are you pretending not to know portend? Are you portending? I forgot about that. Are you portending? I hadn't seen that word in a while. You know what word... What's the and symbol?

Ampersand. Ampersand. My neighbor, Felix, who listens to every other episode of this podcast, and he said Ampersand this morning. And I was like, come on. Right when he said it, he was like, and then he was like spelling something. He's like Ampersand. And I go, well, don't, you're being ridiculous. I go, what is that?

And he goes, the and symbol. I was like, just say that. There's never any reason to say ampersand. Nobody says ampersand. Just say and. That's what it is. Look, I don't know. I didn't know when he said that. I wasn't like, oh, that's what that is. But my popular disbelief was just saying, I forget. Sometimes it means something different than and, though. Like I know for like a TV show, if it's written by, the ampersand will mean something different than if it says just and.

written and if it's the and symbol then it's like the two of them together and if it's the word and assistant to the regional yeah exactly it's the I don't know if that's true well I remember all the scripts I've

that have gone nowhere. But it's the credits are like in some of that stuff, the way stuff gets worded in that is a big deal. Yeah. Story by versus if you get story by written by, if you get written, if you can get written by and have the two people on it, then you can get a chance to get created by. Cause if you look at everybody loves Raymond, he wasn't created by. Oh, that's interesting. He was based on the comedy of,

Of Everybody Loves Raymond. But it was Phil Rosenthal who created the show. And some of that, it's because he would have been, when he made that show, he was nobody. So, I mean, he doesn't get whatever he wants. Now, if he made a show, he's going to get whatever he wants. Yeah. But it's big fights when that stuff goes down. And it's weird because in TV, they make you go through the entire contract and

for the first season and this is before and then they just say afterwards you shoot we shot the pilot and they're like no show but I mean you have to go through and they're like here's how much money you would make here's I mean it's like lawyers get super involved it's all this big fight to then shoot the pilot and then be told no it doesn't make sense you're like well I don't want to why tell me all this stuff you know

Just for fun, 1978, 1900. My dad is a pastor who has performed a lot of weddings over the years, and he frequently uses the line during the ceremony to much laughter. Marriage is two people working together to solve problems that never would have had if they had just stayed single. Love the show. That's funny. That's funny. Yeah. It's a funny thing for a pastor to say. Yeah, it's a good icebreaker. Yeah.

Henry Smith, Aaron looks like every D-line coach ever. He wishes. Coach Witt was my D-line coach in high school. I'm starting to look a little bit more like him every day. What would you be? Shorts guy? Would you wear flip-flops? Basketball shorts, t-shirt, whistle, hat. Flip-flops? I could see my whole look. No, not flip-flops. Really? Yeah, tennis shoes, new balances. Did you go barefoot?

No, I never had a coach go barefoot. I know. Well, that's why you should do it. That could be my thing? That could be your thing. Okay. Do you think you could coach football? No. No. I got my wife. I thought, I thought. No, no way. I went through a lot of thoughts there very quickly. I don't think so. My wife was supposed to, my daughter wants to play basketball. So she was like, oh, coach. I could coach now, especially because no touring.

And I play basketball. I know basketball. And I guess I could coach it for eight-year-olds. But it's a lot of pressure. Like, parents get mad if you're not playing the kids. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All that stuff. I'd be like one of those parents that, in my heart, like, don't let my daughter play as much just so people don't think I'm, you know. Yeah. Michael Ellis. Yeah.

Last month. Yeah, 300. It's back down. Uh,

I do remember my YouTube, because subscribers on YouTube or mine, it was not, when I started on touring, we were filming road, all this road life stuff. And I remember it got up to like a, it was, it was, I had nothing because all my YouTube videos are spread out. They're from like stand up and they're put up from different people. So it wasn't, you know, and so, yeah, we've jumped a ton. We're doing good. It's the podcast. All right. All right.

That is my favorite running joke is just calling Brian. Everybody, they all do it. Even in these comments, some of the names they call you are hilarious. It's wonderful, dude. Yeah. It's very funny. Mary Lastilla.

Hey, guys. Love the podcast. Nate, I'm a huge fan, but I don't know why you pick on Brian so much. Thank you. He contributes a lot to the podcast. He also has a very soothing voice, and I think he should record audio books. Yes. Maybe since Nate has such a hard time reading the comments, he should let Brian take over. All right. See, Brian's mom apparently got a YouTube account.

Thank you, Mary. I mean... There were a few comments like that, but they would call me by the wrong name, so I didn't think they had the real spirit of it. Even with their complimenting, they still call you Bryce. Even when they're defending me, they're like, Nate, you're a little too hard on Darren. I'm like, I don't know if you're being sincere or not. They get off the Bs. Thank you, Mary. They're just on B names right now. They're out of B names by now. Yeah.

All right. We're, we go, you know, he does, Brian does very good. Brian does a lot of work. Brian puts all this stuff together. We talk about no one's not acknowledging Brian gets paid appropriately for that, which is zero. We're all getting zero, but one day Brian will get a little more than zero. Uh, just a handshake. That's eventually what we'll go to.

I'm going to go to the Ellen show. You can go to the Ellen show. Treat it better there. Treat it better at the Ellen show. I have a statement I'd like to read. Nate Bargatze is a good person. He did not make me say this. All right, everybody. Thank you, Bryce, for the... Anyway. All right. You know what? I'm going to always read the comments. I will always... The comments are not going to be taken from me. But what...

I will. You will have to. What is it? Pride at my dead hand. What is it, Michael Scott? He goes, I will not leave this office. You will have to burn this building down. When he does the, you have 24 hours. Why'd you say that? They're like, I don't know. They always say that. They always say that. I always read the comments. But we did think of something. When we go through the other things, I will read it until I mess up. And then I get it taken from me. Yeah.

Until Brian messes up. You got a short leash. And then it comes back. It goes around until someone messes up. That's what I think should happen. Robbie G. Guys, you have great chemistry and balance. I'm sure most realize the heckling of one another is the stuff we did sitting around in our basements in high school, which is part of what makes the show killer. Brendan, you are... Brendan, you are... Oh, man. Integral. Integral.

The Brendan threw me off. What's that? How do you say it? Integral. Integral. You got it right the first time. I know. The Brendan messed me up. Brendan, you are integral. I can't say it. Integral. It's all right.

I think integral is right too. Integral? I pronounce both ways. Oh, thanks, Aaron. I say integral. That felt like a dumb it down. He goes, hey, you said it right. You're doing great, man. Keep going. You're totally dumbing it down now for him. Brendan, you're integral, Brendan. Yes, Nate, real word that means necessary to the show. They're dumbing it down for him now. It wouldn't be the same without all of you. You know, talk about a guy that gets it.

And don't think I know y'all are throwing words in. Y'all wouldn't be using all these words. Nobody. You don't use those words in YouTube comments, dude. I see them. Chris Cho. I think what Aaron was going to say before Nate was set off was...

before Nate was set off was that some people argue that having children is selfish because of the idea that a person thinks that the world needs another version of them. Someone with their DNA mini me. When there are children in orphanages around the world that need loving parents. It's not that the world doesn't need children, but the world need their children. Yeah. Yeah. Or adopting is huge. My sister does the fostering and it's wonderful. Yeah.

And fostering, I mean, it's an amazing, amazing thing. And they get called in the middle of the night and it's just like, you got to take a kid now. Yeah, I mean, 11 o'clock at night. Your whole family has helped out. I mean, I've met, was it Jasmine? Jasmine was there. Yeah, we bring them in. It's a...

We're a big... Our family's... Yeah, if someone comes in, we're like, you're part of our family now. And then you're just in. Yeah, we're good. Yeah, we're on the same page about that. You don't like it. Okay. No, I mean... No, you're against adoption. No, that's not what I'm saying. Go ahead. I was saying in the comments, I was like, we're all on the same page here among the three of us, I feel like. Yes. I think adopting should be...

way more you know it should be more talked about and uh i think easy i mean i can't be easier it's definitely got to be harder you know it's a weird thing that you can't but it seems like it's a long system it's hard for people to get but it's when someone does adopt as my mom always said it's the most selfless thing you can do yeah uh and it's truly wonderful

See? They get it, too. They do.

I don't know about anybody not flush the toilet. But I know people that, yeah, when they, if it's, you know, they say don't flush it. I flush. Yeah. I flush. That'd be another advantage of getting a urinal, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. That's what they need. Yeah. A urinal. In every house. Yeah. Hannah Paulson, Nate says people who don't want kids are doing it because they're selfish. But then three seconds later, Nate says...

What to put down and tell people it's selfish to have kids. Don't tell me what to do. That's so pompous. People shouldn't say things that make people feel bad. Do you see how you're contradictory and offensive here? Not really, but you know, I'm, I'm sure you're right. Like, you know, like I think I say a lot of things that sound like I'm arguing, like two people argue and it's just coming out of the same mouth.

And yeah, I'm pretty, that's, that's just a big thing, you know, but you just do it. Just let them write it out. Yeah. That's the point. I think most people do that. Nate, I don't know if they do that. Maybe you shouldn't do that. Maybe you shouldn't. All right. Matt Carter. I love the full on. I love the full on Nate ran. I love the passion. It would be so easy to label. Nate has just this simple guy. He doesn't care. Thanks for saying what you really think. All right. Now we're starting to get some traction here. This is, uh,

We're going to start picking up. Thanks, Matt. Jake Peterson. When we say you dress like it's fall, it's not because you're wearing a hoodie. It's because Aaron is wearing flannels like he just left a pumpkin patch. Amen. Well, he wore a flower hat to counteract that today. That's right. Don Thompson. Nate right on the money when he said Laura earned everything that he has. How about more on how you three met? Do wives and fiancés hang out? My wife suspects that Laura made all the arrangements for Brian Bart's reception.

We do. We do hang out. I mean, me and Bates have been pretty close friends for 10 years. And so we've, Aaron and I met second episode of this podcast. Apparently, I feel like I'm just meeting you now. You're the smartest human being that's ever existed. Goes down there and just plays our piano like a maniac. Just like, oh, there's not a big deal. Just gets in his van and drives home.

No, we all hang out. We go out with your wife, Ruth, now. We've been there. Not crazy. We've never been out together. We did the Predators thing. We went together. The thing you performed at? Yeah. Yeah, we all came as a family. But I mean, Ruth comes because most things that we were doing were work related. So Ruth has been on the bus. She's been on, you know, she's hung out. She's been with us. It's not like I don't know who she is.

Yep. And Laura, uh, yeah, Laura did handle the reception, the arrangements. Yes. Yeah. And your mom. I thought that was obvious. Oh man, that's a great call. Uh, I was my idea. It was your idea to have her handle it? It was my idea for the reception. Oh. But I don't, but she does the. Okay. I mean, she has to do the work. I'm the idea man. I come in with the ideas. Yeah. Yeah.

And then you're in your fiance was, we were around her a lot. Lucy, uh, at Zany. It's a small world that we're in. It is. Yeah. No one's in. Yeah. It's we're all very, we're close. It wouldn't be weird if they, the wives walked in right now. No one would be like, uh, why'd you bring your girl? I don't know. Uh, did we answer all? How about more on? Yeah. When we all met doing comedy, that's how we all met. Uh,

Tora and Shanta, I'm teaching AP European History this fall. My current plan is just to show them the clip of Nate, Aaron, and Brian trying to figure out what the Middle Ages is and assume that we will prepare them for the test. I like that. We're still going to do an episode on Middle Ages. Someone emailed me that knows a lot about Middle Ages. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. He's from the Middle Ages. I said, how did you get an email? He's like, well, it was difficult, but I got it. I like that.

we're gonna be this would be the first ap class i'll ever be a part of it's the idea that that will inspire them to take their studies more seriously it could be yeah it's because you want to do this is this where you want to end up they just show this is me just being integral and they go do you even know what he's trying to say and they're like i don't even know i want to know how accurate we were how accurate were we

With the Middle Ages? Yeah. Well, we'll find out when we talk about the Middle Ages. I mean, what claims did we make? I can't even remember. Well, I said it was from like 500s to the 1500s based on Wikipedia. No. Wikipedia is usually pretty good. There's still people out there who think we know what we're talking about, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. We look it up. We try to give it a go, but that's about all we can do. Yeah. Morgan Kuystra. Kuystra. Yeah.

Morgan Koistra. Wait, so Brian sleeps with a CPAP machine but takes off his wedding ring at night because it's uncomfortable? That's a good point. That's a fair point. But the wedding ring doesn't help you breathe. Well, I wouldn't wear a CPAP if I didn't have to. Yeah. I think, but it's like, you know, I mean, he's getting so locked and loaded when he goes to bed. I mean, it's like... Like, what's one more thing? Just keep the ring on? Yeah, it's like, is the ring really going to bother you? You should put your belt on, too. You have a helmet and a mask on your face. I mean...

Yeah, just wear your clothes to bed. Shoes. Shoes, everything. It's a fair point, Morgan. You'll wake up ready to go, man. Yeah. I feel like Morgan is Ruth in disguise.

Kyler Poole, that remedial math class really stuck for old Nate. 41 divided by 2 is 22. Book it. 41 divided by 2 is 22. When was that? A few people pointed that out. I didn't catch it, but last week when we were doing half your age plus 7, apparently you said 41. I'm 41 divided by 2, so that's 22. Yeah.

It's not far off. It's not far off. I would be, yeah, 20 and a half. It's close enough we didn't feel like we needed to correct him. It's just like, let's stick with the main stuff. As I've learned, if you can say stuff with a little confidence, nobody, and you're close enough, you're going to get by. That's the advice. CJ, Brian has resting confused face. That is true.

Well, let me say, first of all, when Nate's talking, it's not resting. Yeah. But I've had this before. When I was a senior in high school, we went on our senior trip to Panama City. It was my first time away from my parents. I was so excited. My friends down there. And we met these girls. I was trying to be so cool just hanging out. And out of nowhere, one of these girls just goes...

this guy looks worried. And they all start dying laughing. And they're like, look, he's worried. And the rest of the trip, they called me worried. That was my nickname was worried. Worried is such a good word to use. Like if they would have said, this guy looks confused, worried. I mean, they labeled me that. Worried is such a good word. Yeah.

For that situation. Yeah, women know how to cut to your heart, don't they? She could have said confused. She could have said... That would have ruined the whole trip for me. I mean, I still remember it to this day. You're just trying to hang out. I was trying to be so cool by not talking. This guy looks worried. Yeah. And then she... I mean, I haven't said a word. And his bum over here looks worried. Who's he with? You two? And then for them just to call you worried. God, that's so funny, dude. I still remember it. How... I mean...

That's like professional stand-up. That's a great put-down. You would try different words. Right. You would be scared, confused. You would try everything. Yeah. And worried. If anybody's like, think about comedy. Worried is just a very funny word, and it's just such a description that it's not a strong person. I mean, it hurts. You don't say worried about...

He-Man is not worried. No. Soldiers are not worried. They could be scared. Scared is okay. Worried is... Also, not worried about anything in particular. Just worried in general. That's a general look. And it's coming from... Guys, you maybe could say that, but from a girl...

And they all laughed. I mean, I was mortified. Got more worried. She got super worried. Self-fulfilling, yeah. Yeah, it is self-fulfilling. Couple more. Stephen Bauer, I walked into a public restroom at a grocery store to an old man completely naked, washing his underwear in the sink. Looks at me directly in my eyes and says, I just didn't make it, you know? I just had to turn around and walk straight out. That's insane, dude. I mean...

Yeah. We talked about that, right? Like, I think there's two. That's not like normal. You can't just be like guy code, right? You cool? I love it. I love it. Well, there's some guys that would be like that. Your secret's safe. Like they, I think do like that, but that's crazy. That's crazy. I just didn't make it. Just throw your underwear away.

Well, this guy's having a bad day. Yeah. Somebody walks in on him and he plays. I kind of respect how he played it off like that. I do too. I don't. You know what? It happened. I can't change it. I'm trying to fix it. Sometimes you don't make it. I'm not playing into it. I don't think he's just throw away. I think old people have limited number underwear and that's right. Make them ride. Those said Wednesday and you can't get more because these are my wins. His Wednesday on the back of them. Everybody has a favorite pair.

Right? Do you have a favorite pair of underwear? Uh, change your whole day. Oh man. I have a couple of that. I buy the same kind that I like. Okay. And then, so they're all the same. Okay. Same kind. Uh, yeah. Do y'all have, I mean, what are you? I feel like you want to tell us about yours. No, I don't. Yeah. That's what I feel like. That's like an old man. That's like,

All mine, I have all MeUndies, but the design will give me a little extra confidence. If I know that I'm wearing it, I'll just feel good. Mine are just regular colors. Mine are Lululemon. Man, makes sense. They're women's. I started not getting the design because I wear shorts, and so I wear the...

like the short ones that kind of go down. And when I sit down, like my regular shorts will show them. And it was embarrassing if it's like camouflage and you're like, I'm sorry. Someone's like, I'm 40. Two pair of shorts and camouflage underwear. Almond milk. Last one. Eight episodes in and I just noticed Nate, Aaron, and Dave don't say any swear words ever. I never knew it was so possible to smile from ear to ear for an hour without any F-bombs. New favorite podcast.

That is true. We try to keep Dave calm down. He would let it rip. Yeah. You know, if you know my comedy, my comedy is clean. And so that's the general, you know, I don't want my parents to get mad at me. Uh, so we've, we just, and we're all clean comedians. And so we just stayed being a clean comedian. It's not like we're letting it rip off camera. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Uh, it's yeah, it is. This is how we are. And, uh,

Yeah, we don't try to make a big deal about it. I think as a clean comedian, your best compliment as a clean comedian is when people are like, oh, I didn't realize you were clean. That's what you're trying to go for. So this podcast is kind of the same thing. We want it to be like that where you maybe don't notice. And there's plenty of cursing in podcasts. So you can find it if you want it here.

One day we will. Just turn. I did an interview with, not to be name dropping, but with Jeff Foxway that has a show on Sirius, and I did one, an interview with him.

or we just talked for like and he does like an hour thing and he was talking about being clean and I was like you know I was like it's just how I started clean and when you start clean I mean now it's been 17 years of writing jokes clean so I'm trained that way I don't really think of any sex jokes I don't not saying I ever wouldn't or something doesn't come up I but I I just don't kind of my brain doesn't kind of go to there anymore um

But I was talking to Foxwood about it. It's like, you know, it's not, I'm just clean. I'm going to be like, but once my parents die, I'm going to let it rip. I'm just waiting them out. All right, we're going to, here we go. We're on to the topic today. I'm not a good transition guy. That's what I've just realized. Yeah. Into like the comments. I think I start weird. I'm going to get better at that.

Well, this one's going pretty good. I don't know. People would argue that it's not. I've heard people are. So we're doing something different. We're actually having our first guest today. We got a guest. We got someone sitting in, and we're very excited to have him. This episode, just so you know, we're going to talk about TV, a lot of TV episodes, something we're all excited about. This guest was an easy get. It wasn't tough to get him.

Too easy, to be honest. This guy I've become very good friends with. You can come on in. Please welcome John Augustine. Everybody, look at this. The big no one cares, John. Aaron clapped a little bit. A little delayed. Mandy fight song. You might...

That's about how Vandy starts her fight. It's always late a little bit. John Augustine is a golfer at Vanderbilt. Me and John have become friends. He's in his fifth year now at Vanderbilt. Sometimes, hey, not everybody graduates in four. Sometimes it takes people longer. He's going to try to tell you it's because of COVID. Not true at all. Couldn't cut it. Because I don't know.

Me and John, we've got to golf a lot. I'm at where I play, where Vanderbilt's golf team is at. And so me and John have hit it off and been fun. And John is playing in the U.S. Open and the Masters this year as an amateur. So we want everybody to watch that. We'll go all rooting for John. Big deal. I mean, John, you think you can win?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the attitude you got to have. Going to the tournament to play well. And you should be in contention. Just, yeah. Talking. Yeah. Do you feel like, so there'll be no fans there, right? Yeah. They're not going to have fans. They haven't exactly stated yet where they're going to allow like,

You know. Family? Yeah, family. Maybe 10 people per group or something like that. But it's certainly going to be different, I would imagine. Yeah. Well, that's how you play golf most of the time, right? Yeah. It's going to be easier. Yeah, there's nobody that attends our tournaments. We have a pretty big group that walks behind us every time we play. Yeah. Just your regular normal round. We just got some guys behind us. Yeah. John, when I played the club championship, John showed up. We did it. So...

I was playing in our club championship, and it was my first kind of real competition I've played in in golf. Very excited. You know, I kind of go crazy in golf, especially in these times. I just went nuts. And so I get playing in it. First day, I shoot a 73. Won over it.

Everybody was shocked. Huh? Everybody was shocked. Everybody was shocked. I mean, I was in the final group. So then you get paired, you just three days. And so I should just 73 in tournament play. Probably the best. It's the best I've ever played because this is you got to put everything in. There's no gimmies. There's no nothing.

So, uh, we get, I get in that final group and that second day, it just, the wheels come off and, uh, ended up shooting 83 that second day. But I had, I'm back to back holes. I had eight. And I mean, one of them, I hit a ball. It went in some high grass and,

They actually found it, but I thought I was playing a different ball. I go back, hit another ball, and then it comes out, and I was like, oh, no, that was my ball. And you can't hit it, so now I've already taken the stroke. So I get an eight, and then John kind of shows up because he's going to ride around for a few holes. And so he shows up and sees that, and I'm just driving next to him. I was like, I just got an eight on that hole. And then I just – next one, I just hook on the left out of bounds. So I have to hit a provisional. No.

Well, yeah, that's right. You're right. It wasn't out of bounds. You just couldn't find it. Just couldn't find it. Yeah, not out of bounds. And then the other one goes left again. And I look at John, and John just goes, we'll find one of those. And then we went, and I was in a bunker. And for some reason, I tried to hit a 7-iron. It was just a mess. And I mean, John was like, he goes, look.

You got to just get like a triple bogey. Like at this point, just triple bogey it. And I get an eight. After trying to get it out of the sand on your probably what, fifth shot now? Yeah. I looked at you like, what are you doing? What are you doing? What is this? I mean... And the first time we played together...

I putted and I missed the putt. Putt went too long. He just goes, your speed is awful. And then just kept walking. Like my speed. Do you get nervous playing golf around people that are really good at golf? Is there part of you that you get more nerves? I don't think so. I mean, now me and him have played so much, so I don't. I played with Jason Day a few times and I don't. I mean, you want to play good.

I don't think I, I weirdly don't get nervous in that kind of scenario. I would get nervous. I mean, you don't, I know I'm now good enough to, the ball is going to go out there. Like it's, I'm going to hit it. I mean, now I've got the topping. I was topping the ball recently. I got embarrassed when I was playing with these guys.

And I had hit five provisional balls on a hole. And I shot an 82. So that means I had five double bogeys, and I still shot an 80. Like, I would have shot even par. Yeah. But I kept topping them, and then they would, like, hit. And then they'd go 10 yards. And that was – I was playing two guys that were, like, scratch. And that was kind of embarrassing because it just kept happening over and over again. I mean, one of them, it happened, like, three times, three tee boxes in a row. And that was, like –

And I didn't really know these guys. And they were like... I was like, oh, that's all right. You know, they're just kind of like... And I mean, I'm just constantly having to throw another ball down. So, yeah. But it's gotten better in which the games were, you know, putting...

getting better yeah i mean with how much you've been playing i'd say that there's nowhere else to go it was it had to get better it had to get better you know it's uh what's the best score you've ever i don't know why we're talking about nate's golf game i've got a professional golfer i've shot even par once thank you brian uh and 73 in the club oh john's here yeah go ahead john i've shot 60 a few times never shot 59 uh shot 60 actually at vanderbilt legends yeah uh

On the south course, I shot 60 at my home course in Owensboro, Kentucky. That's where I'm from. You should try Riverside and Hermitage. Yeah, I've heard everybody's talking about it. I know. We're going to take them. Well, you got to go with us there. I want to go. I want you to go with me to just Riverside. I grew up playing. I think it's gotten better, but it's just a public course that's been around forever. Yeah. I'm so curious to see y'all playing because you could drive every green. Yeah.

Have you shot a 60, Brian? Yeah. On the front? No, Brian is 60. Is that what you meant? Yes. How old is Brian? Are you 60 now or are you not? Brian's gotten a lot better. Yeah? Brian's gotten a lot, lot better. We played with my buddy Michael yesterday.

And Michael hasn't played in forever. And if Michael hits it, Michael can hit it. But he was just kind of really off. And so we had them play the last three holes. I was like, all right, y'all two got to go at it. And Brian had to give Michael a stroke, which Brian has never given anybody a stroke ever. And he had to give him a stroke. And it was...

We were doing triple bogey max, and out of those three holes, I think two of them, they both got triple bogey maxes. And then the last hole was a free-for-all. You could score. And it was so fun for me just to watch because they both get themselves in just some brutal trouble. And I'm watching. Brian had to go look for his ball. When he tees it off, goes and looks for it.

Has to drop again. And he's basically by the tee box, back by the tee box where the group behind us is, which is funny just to think you would have to go to talk to the guys behind us because you guys quiet down and try to get my second shot, please. And then just, and then watching Brian go up. I mean, you got it. Y'all both tied that hole, but Michael had a putt. And then we go play one playoff hole and Michael parsed, I mean, just 250 yard drive. Right down the middle. On the green, parsed it. And it was like. Easy. Yeah. It was like nothing. Nothing.

Yeah. So you're, so John is, uh, he finished his, uh, finalist of the USAM last year. So he got to be, he would be done with school right now. Yeah. He would have already graduated. He did graduate. Uh, he would already be done. We're already played in the masters in the open. You'd already, you'd be on. Yeah. Or, you know, you never know for sure, but I would likely have played the PGA tour this summer with some sponsors invites. And so, uh,

But yeah, I mean, it's all good. All that happens, you know, for a reason. So we'll just kind of wait it out. I'm going to play the US Open, the Masters this fall. And then, you know, take some, hopefully get some exemptions after that. And either next summer or if plans change and I leave after this first semester. I'm not sure yet. How nervous do you think you will be at Augusta? Like you've played Augusta. Yeah. But I mean, when it's... I think... What time do you think you're tee off?

super early you'll tl like see an amateur send them out uh 6 30 um you're out before they before they announce yeah they're cutting right they're gonna cut the first fairway while i'm teeing off just heads up guys don't catch the lawn crew but they're about two holes ahead of you uh um i don't know when do the amateurs when do they usually tee off the amateurs it varies yeah it varies so you know i don't know when i'll tee off but yeah i mean i'll be nervous but

You know, I've luckily played in a PGA Tour event. I played in one last year. And so I didn't feel more nervous there than any other event. I'm always, you know, kind of anxious on the first tee shot. But once I can get it off the tee, we're just kind of competing. And then you're playing. Yeah. I think it's going to help with no crowd. I mean, they talked about with – well, Jason Day talked about, you know, with no crowd, like it is –

You could see people like who's going to thrive in those crowd situations are going to be the guys that have been around for a long time. So, and the people that could get nervous. I just, I think that the people who,

you would think would thrive in the crowds of the new guys out on tour. And then myself being an amateur, like all those guys have been playing college golf, amateur golf, junior golf for the last, you know, most of their lives where nobody shows up. Oh, yeah. So they're used to it. Like they're used to it. Like Colin Morikawa, I know well. You know, he won the PGA three weeks ago or whatever. No, that's what I'm saying, that he would thrive in that. Yeah, he would. Yes. You said guys that would be around forever. Well, I mean, clearly we know from the comments, I...

Contradict. Popular disbelief. I mess up quite a bit. But that's what I mean. It's going to help. I think that's what Jason was saying. Tiger Woods, if it's crowded Sunday, Tiger's going to... He thrives that crowd being around. Versus...

newer Colin, you know, some of these younger kids, like they would, they buck. I mean, look, they have one tiger when the masters last year was seeing Kepka and all those, like that had to play into it. Like, yeah, I don't know. I, I, I like crowds. I want, you know, in the, you know, whatever, probably 10 events that I've actually had big crowds. Like, I think it's fun. I think it's, you know, yeah. Crowds are great. It's great. You know, you kind of feel off the energy. So I, I'm,

Kind of conflicted on the subject. I think it could go both ways. Well, we need you to make a decision. But make sure you go watch John at the – we're very excited at the US Open. That's awesome. I don't know what none of us are doing. We're such losers here. We started a podcast.

So John also, one thing we've bonded over was Seinfeld, big Seinfeld. John is 22, right? Super young, born the year I graduated high school. I could be his father. I think my parents would have been thrilled about it, but I could, the age works out. Yeah, you would have been 20, 19 and a half. Yeah. No, I would have been 19. Yeah.

Just do that math again, dude. Yeah, here we go. I would be exactly divided by two plus seven, almost. But he's a big Seinfeld fan, which was surprising. As someone your age, you wouldn't think. I think people are watching with the Friends, Office, Seinfeld, think they're getting an extra life

With that, and it's a big extra life with the Netflix and Hulu and all them showing these shows again. I mean, Friends. I mean, I think people are watching Friends like it's... John and I are roughly the same age. There's a TBS block for a while.

With that, it was like King of Queens, Seinfeld. What else was on there? Yeah, yeah. All those shows were on there. So that's how I watched all of them. But for you guys, you grew up with the internet. Anybody born 1990 or later probably had the internet your whole life. Do you feel like you view TV different than us in the sense that...

Yeah. I don't like that me and him get, we're on this side now. I knew, yeah. Yeah. Well, I think. What is your thing? We said it before. A couple guys. Us? Yeah, that you always say about me and you. We're both, two guys, both in our 40s, both born in the 70s, and both graduated high school in the 90s. I mean, it's just facts. Yeah. I don't know why that's funny about it. You know, I think, like for me, going back to like what Aaron said, like I grew up,

Because I think I liked Seinfeld so much was I grew up when my dad loved Seinfeld. And so every single night at 5 o'clock, TBS showed 5 to 5.30, 5.30 to 6, two episodes of Seinfeld every night. And so, I mean, I did that for 17 years of my life. And you thought it was on air because you were so young. I don't know what I thought. I don't think... I mean, I think when I was probably 14, I was pretty aware that it was not on TV. Well, I thought...

which we're talking about. I thought Andy Griffith was, I didn't know that it was not. And it was off air for 40 years. It was like off air before my parents were born. Why did you think it wasn't black and white? Nothing else on TV. I mean, when I was a kid, dude, it's on TV. It's just an artistic decision from Andy Griffith. No, I'm not even remotely. We had a black and white TV in our kitchen. My parents brought a small black and white TV.

And then we didn't have HDTV, dude. It was on regular, you know. Sorry, dude. Not all of us grew up with money like you. I thought as a kid watching sitcoms, I thought the actors just improvised it there on the spot. Like I didn't realize there were. That's dumber than what I think. Well, I was a kid. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember watching an episode of something and one of them kind of started to laugh, broke character a little bit.

And my mom's like, oh, look, they're about to laugh. And I thought, oh, okay. Well, why don't... I'm shocked they don't laugh all the time because they don't know what's coming. Because I really just thought they were thinking of it there on the spot. But I was six. Yeah. I remember I used to think people really died in TV shows and movies. Yeah.

What I did was nothing. We were very young. These are two of the dumbest comments I've ever heard in my life. You learned about Andy Griffith like six years ago. No, but for me to be a kid and think that it's currently being filmed now is not that insane. You think it's all made up. You think these people are truly dead. That's wild. I remember watching Gunsmoke with my grandparents and people would die and I'd be like, man, they really gave it all for this show.

Show. And it's like, that's amazing. They do that. They were that committed. You know, they are. Did you think of any? No, I can't say I've ever thought of that. Yeah. Oh,

Is that how you get into Vanderbilt? Yeah. Stuff like that. He went to Notre Dame. Yeah, exactly. That's not easy to get into. But did you guys like... Apparently it is. I didn't write about this in my answer. Apparently it is. Yeah. I had no internet, so TV is all we had to watch. Were you on your computers more or watching TV more? TV. I never watched TV on my computer. I didn't have a... I had a computer in my house, like a family computer with desktop and everything. But I didn't have a laptop until I went to college. And so...

But now do you watch, so you watch everything on, when you're at home, are you watching on your phone? Are you watching on your iPad TV? I would, I would say I pretty much always watch it on TV. Now it may be like a smart TV where you're connected to wifi, you watch Netflix or Hulu or whatever, but most of the stuff I'm watching, if it's not Seinfeld, I'm watching sports. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have cable.

No, I have YouTube TV right now. So I get the channels, the live channels. I mean, it's such a crazy thing. But that's, you know, we've talked about TV. Let's get into this TV. So when was TV invented? The world's first television was created in 1927 by a 21-year-old inventor named Philo Taylor.

Or Philo or Philo? If it's Philo, then I get to take over reading. Well, we don't know. He forgot his last name. He's here. Farnsworth. Farnsworth. Yeah, I missed that. Philo Taylor Farnsworth. All right, I think I get that. A name like that, that doesn't count. What was on it?

On the TV? Yeah. He just has a TV. What's on it? Just his family. The VCR hasn't been invented. Just his family's on there? Just pictures. Yeah, what was on? Well, what was the first TV show? America's first television program aired in 1928 and was called The Queen's Messenger. It was a radio drama adapted for television. The program was thought to be broadcast only to four television sets. Wow.

so 1927 the TV was invented nothing was on it yeah and then 1928 that show the Queens and Philo was like thank God you finally gave me something to put on this TV I've had it for a year yeah

He just one night, he goes, I do this every night. Just seeing nothing, nothing, nothing. Just one day. Just Queens messenger. What's this? Uh, back to nothing. It's not good. It's gotta be pretty weird though, that it was a radio. Like if I'm thinking of this correctly, it would be a radio show that they now are putting on TV. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, uh, you know, I've done, uh,

they do, when I would do the Prairie Home Companion, which is on NPR, Chris Thigley, they, they do Tom Papa would write out like right. This kind of stuff, like a radio show where you're, you're kind of like, it's either being funny or it's like that kind of stuff. It's pretty interesting. I mean, it's like people are listening to radio. I mean, I think people used to sit around the radio. It's interesting that we've kind of come back to that now. I mean, we're doing a podcast right now. Hmm.

The idea of doing this 20 years ago would be insane. You're going to do a radio show? Well, it's the same thing with The Herd. That's a radio show, but they put it on Fox Sports 1. Do you listen to any regular radio? Do you listen to podcasts? I listen to some podcasts. They've got to be good. I haven't listened to this one yet. Okay, that's fair. But no, the only radio I listen to is 104.5.

The game. Yeah. I will listen to that in the morning. The Zone? The Zone. I listen to 104.5. Midday 180? Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. The Zone. Yeah. The Zone. Clay Travis. In the morning. So they're doing...

I wonder if like now, like radio is like, cause I mean, there's going to be people that are not listening to pod. I mean, all they're doing is listening to podcasts. They're not regular radio. I think serious does good. I listen to serious. I like serious. I'd like just how easy that once it's all going to change.

once everything the thing with internet tv and internet all this stuff with the radio is you have to go to the you can't just flip and listen to what's on yeah so once that i feel like is on you know like with serious radio i can go you can go to news sports comedy you know and i get it kind of just flipping whichever thing i want to stop on but once you with uh internet radio

I feel like you got to go to Netflix. I got to come out of Netflix. I got to go to Hulu. It's these extra steps that I think is the only thing that's keeping it from just...

You know, regular cable's gone. Yeah. Yeah. Well, my parents, like, two nights ago were, like, asked me, like, what am I paying for YouTube TV? And I told them they're, like, they're paying, like, four times that for cable. And so they're, like, well, we're going to try YouTube TV. And so I gave them my account information. They signed in. And my mom immediately calls me and was, like...

why can't you switch between channels? And I was like, what do you mean? You just go back and scroll down. She's like, so I have to do that every time I want to switch a channel. I was like, yeah, it's pretty simple though. It's not very hard. It's how you get into it though. She's like, I can't click 24? No. Well, she wants to just turn it and it pops on. Yes. And you're kind of flipping through it. Yes. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of done. Yeah.

I mean, I don't really flip. Now the guide, I don't do it much. But sometimes it's nice to press down and it changes the channel. But my parents are on YouTube TV now. They're done. We still have DirecTV.

but I mean, we're close. It's close. I mean, cause it just seems like everything's there and I don't know. I don't understand like there's parts that we're not even, I don't get to watch as much TV as I want to now. And so it's just, what's, you know, my daughter, I think my daughter is not ever going to,

she'll just be Netflix. Like it's, she's just used to, well, that's kids don't even think about TV in the same way that we do as, as like a channel being something that's just going on. Yeah. And then you just tune in and watch whatever's on it and then tune out. It's like, I start about it that way. Yeah. That's how I watch TV. Yeah. Almost all my life until the last few years. Yeah. So it's just, you have a show. I'll just watch that show.

She will. Yeah. So she'll be Harper. She's a, she'll be that generation. That is the show starts when I press play. Right. Yeah. It's not just, I didn't miss it. Yeah. Right. Watching something live. I mean, there's, I mean that that's the, well, that's the thing too. Like with, I feel like TV also went to like, I don't know, maybe eight years ago, whatever, around that time, like it went to, you want a million channels, like, Oh, you can upgrade all these packages. And now it's coming back to where like,

you realize you only really watch like eight to 10 separate networks. I think like, I don't watch, I don't, when I'm at home, I don't flip around the 700 channels. My parents have, I've watched ESPN or whatever I'm trying to watch. And that's it. It's a cable company. Let you pick individual channels that you wanted. How many would you pick?

20. Yeah. I think probably less than that if you really think about it. What's one channel that you couldn't... If you could only pick one, what would you pick? ESPN. Yeah. PBS. Yeah. There you go. I always thought about this. There was a while I thought I would almost take TBS. Yeah, TBS is good. Because for sports, even though I want sports...

You still get a few games a year. You still get your Braves games. Yeah. You'll get the March Madness. You'll get other stuff. And I want, you're not going to want just sports. You want a mix. And I always thought TBS would be a good, you know, it's like reruns. Yeah. All that. March Madness. You'd get some of that. Yeah.

That's a good pick, TBS. Now that I think about it. Yeah, it is a good pick. I'm smarter than all of y'all. What are you doing on PBS, dude? Learning. Ken Burns documentaries? Yes, I'm learning. 60 Minutes. No, I watch 60 Minutes, but that's CBS. Do you watch PBS? Yeah. I like Ken Burns. Austin City Limits? That's a good show. I thought that was a music festival.

No, it's some... It's a show that... They show music. Yeah, they show music on PBS. Do you know PBS? I've heard, yeah. It has a little icon. Yeah. Like a head. You're too young to start watching it. Yeah, it's a head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a... It's a... This age group. Yeah, it's this side of the table. But they have kids programming too. Sesame Street? Yeah, they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I never really watched Sesame Street. It's so when grandparents are watching their grandchildren, they can bond over a channel. Yeah. And then...

I don't know. No, PBS is good. They have a lot of good stuff. It's brought to you by PBS. Viewers like you. When did TV sets begin being sold? It would take until 1938 before American television sets were produced and released commercially. They were an instant hit after release. Did that count as... That wasn't.

I didn't even pick up on it. No, yeah, see? That doesn't count. It's when I don't know a word. You didn't pick up on him stuttering and pausing uncontrollably? No. 1938. Yeah, I mean, they would have been... How much were they? Did you see any of that? I mean, how much could a TV set have been? $500? I mean... What?

I'm guessing it was the equivalent of owning a boat for your family. Like it was that sort of status. Like 15 grand? Probably. Yeah. Five grand? I don't think so. Maybe five grand. I could be way off here. If you had a TV, it would be... Ryan wants to say. Yeah, it was impressive, yeah. It looks like, depending on what size you got, it ranged from 125 to 250. A three inch? A three inch TV. A five inch.

Wow. Wow. Well, how much is an iPhone? Well, it says down there in 1938, a car cost $700. So that was not, you know, if you scale that out. How much was it for today? Oh, well, how much are cars now? A lot, right? 20 grand. 20 grand. Yeah. I mean, depending on what you want, but yeah. Yeah. 20, 30. Yeah. So it was 700. That's a big difference. Yeah. And they're biggest phones. They're smaller than phones.

That TV is smaller than a phone. Yeah. You gotta be sitting pretty close to that TV. Yeah. A guy comes over and mounts it on his wall. Can you do, can you look at an image of a five inch TV? I just, what, I mean, how thick does that have to be? Honestly, they were watching it. You know, we're talking about kids now watching on phones. They were already watching. They were already watching on phones. You could take it everywhere. I mean, that's such a,

You know, because I don't think it was so compact. It's cheaper than I thought. All right. That's pretty expensive, dude. Yeah. It's a big box, but the screen is only five inches. It looks bigger than five inches, but... I don't know. That one in the middle with the blue background looks about right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's crazy, dude. I mean, like, yeah. So you would just turn... They look like ATMs. Yes. Yeah. They look like ATMs.

And it definitely looks like something that you're not comfortable. You're not lounging and watching. Think about like TV now. You can lay on the couch. You can lay on the floor. That's one that you're sitting upright. Someone's probably standing. Yeah. I mean, maybe two people are standing. If you're trying to watch TV, you got to go walk over to it. It's one view at a time. I mean, I can remember as a kid, we didn't have remote controls. And I was the remote control changer. Yeah, yeah.

I remember not having remote control. I mean, the black and white TV was... I remember my...

my mom's, all her sisters, they all got it for Christmas one year. And it was to have a TV in the kitchen. It wasn't our main TV, but the one in the kitchen was 15 inches and it was black and white and you'd watch it. But it wasn't crazy to have that black and white TV. It wasn't like, why are we buying this black and white TV? I don't know if you could buy one now. You'd have to go like eBay or something. But it was just one that was made for us in the kitchen. And then we had TV, but we didn't...

I don't think I remember having a remote. I think I remember getting a remote. It was crazy that you could just... Yeah. You know. It's so funny. You had like a... Your role in the family was... You were the TV changer? Yeah, for my parents and grandparents. So you just sit closest to the TV? I'd be lying on the floor watching and my dad'd say, change the channel and I'd get up and...

Turn till he... Yeah, that was like the old... That's what you say about kids. That's why you had him. That's why you had him to change the channel. And then you got a remote. What did you do after that? You just lost your purpose. He was put up for adoption. My dad said that when he was a kid and they were watching Kentucky basketball games, they would turn the sound off on the TV and turn it on on the radio with the screen on because he said it was a better...

Like it was much better on the radio than it was on the TV, but you could watch it and listen at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. And that's like when you listen to, I've done that. Yeah. Where if I, if I want to hear some of his, I want to specifically hear about like Vanderbilt. So, and I want to, I want to hear our people talking about them versus. And then there's a delay. Yeah. You got to sync them. That's what's hard. Yeah.

When did commercials start? The first American advertisement aired on July 1, 1941. The ad was for Belova Watch and lasted for 10 seconds. It aired on NBC.

That watch has been around for a long time. Is it still around? Yep. Yep. First ad. Wow. It's interesting it took that long for commercials to start. How was all this being funded? Well, the show was 28, but that was a radio program. There was probably ads on that radio program, but they were just sad ads. And then the first like, oh, let's film a commercial. Yeah.

When did remote controls begin? When were you born, bro? The first remote control was produced by Zenith and released in 1955. This remote control could turn the television on or off and change the channel. It was completely wireless. That's nuts. I mean, that's my mom. My parents were born then. Took us a while to get it. That's what I was about to say. It took y'all 25 years to get that remote. I think it was expensive.

It was, you know. Must have been. Maybe. Did we ever? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, what else was wireless at that time? Probably not a lot. No. Maybe we, yeah. The remote might not have been wireless. It says it was wireless. Oh, okay. Sorry. When did, yeah, maybe. These are cold hard facts, dude. You notice all the sources on here? When did color TV start? On June 21, 1951, CBS broadcasted the first color program. Only 12 customers across America could see the first color TV broadcast.

12 million other TVs were blank for this program. Few people owned color TV sets between 51 and 65. Starting in 66, color TV programming was broadcast across America, leading to a surge in sales of color television sets. I mean, think of like 12 people. What if you're one of those 12 people? I could see you being one of them. Yeah. Yeah.

I could see you being, I thought it would be you. Like, it'd be like a weird group, but you wouldn't have the clarity. You know, you'd be a part of like, you're always part of these weird things that I was one of the people they asked about. But 12, man, can you imagine you're like only 12 of you? There's 12 million TVs. It's not, you know, it's not like there was a thousand.

I bet the people on the show, though, were like, guys, there's 12. The rest of them are going, can we just keep it black and white for a little bit longer so more people can see us? Yeah. Yeah. The actor is just, why didn't you make it? He goes, I don't know. I was on for 12 TVs. There's 12 houses I can't go to the bathroom in because I'm so famous. But the other 12 million. I mean, that's, yeah. Yeah.

Then color TV sets started and we were off and running. I mean, TV was probably people just wanted to get, people needed stuff to do. I mean, can you imagine having to listen to radio just your whole, your, your whole life. And then you get TV and you're like, I mean, it'd be like a drug. You just, you're like, I want to see all this stuff. We're so bored. You can't do anything. And then you're just like dying for historical TV milestones in the last 40 years.

Well, just a few of the 79 ESPN debuted. Ted Turner launches CNN 24 hour 1980s 24 hour a day news. That's a big deal. MTV 1980, 1980 and pay-per-views begin to leave its mark on the television, reaching about 20% of all wired households. 1992 infomercials explode with growth.

The National Infomercial Marketing Association estimates infomercials generate sales of $750 million, double that of 1988. That's crazy. So they're making that much money. Yeah. You ever watch infomercials? Yeah. Do you have a favorite one? Do you have a favorite one?

What? Yes. Yeah. Now they're the whole channel, QVC. Yeah, yeah. What's the guy that was kind of crazy that had a huge drug problem? Sham Wowga? Sham Wowga. Yeah. He had big problems. He did. And that guy would just come on. He was so good at selling stuff that I think he would get off of it and then need money. And anybody would take him because he was so great.

That's a whole system in itself. That's a whole different level of like, oh, I can sell things. Yeah, Billy Mays. Yeah. Him too. Yeah, yeah. Magic Bullet. You remember the Magic Bullet? Yeah. They had a great infomercial. Yeah. Check it out. You know who has... Now it's like commercials like Geico, like the rat problem. Like Geico's killing it. Geico's always great. ESPN always had great commercials. They had awesome commercials. Is this a SportsCenter commercial? Oh, yeah. Those are the best. Yeah.

Those new SportsCenter commercials, it was like they're acting like they're back in time. Like it's running like recently and they're like farmer's insurance. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But those are good right now. 1993, 98% of American households owned at least one TV, 64% owning two or more. I mean, 93, I mean, it's all, it's in. 96, digital satellite dishes come around. And then 2000 DVDs.

2004 DVDs, Outsell VHS. I remember going to Blockbuster and getting VHSs. Do you remember VHSs? Yeah, I remember VHSs, but I definitely remember going to Blockbuster. I did that my entire childhood. Yeah, you would have been 2004. I mean, yeah, you would have been seven. So you remember seeing VHSs. Oh, yeah. Did y'all have a VCR? Yeah. I think they might still have it, honestly, at the house. 2005 flat screen TVs and HD TVs are introduced. Is it that long ago? Yeah.

I remember seeing HDTV for the first time. Me too. I mean, pretty amazing. Well, so it's like the color thing is like the 4K, which I mean, 2012 LG announced the world's first HDTV using the 4K system. I got the 4K. I got it like when it came out, but it was like they didn't have programming for it.

Yeah. Like they're not shooting stuff in 4K. I mean, now it's a lot more. You were like the first guy with the color TV. I was one of the 12 people. Yeah. But with the 4K, they were selling 4K TVs. It's not like these TVs were extra more. It was if you bought a new TV, it was like 4K, this is what we have. But none of the shows were on 4K. So it was only like... And then DirecTV, even that's the other thing that hurts DirecTV. Yeah.

Direct TV, you'd have to have a channel for 4K. So you're having to get an extra box and pay extra for this 4K. Where then you start going, well, I can watch YouTube TV and it's just in 4K. Yeah. So I have to get a guy to come out. You're literally dragging along an old system. Really, there's Direct TV. It's crazy. I thought Direct TV would never go down. You're like, well, this is what it is. It's the best thing ever.

And it's got to be at the –

And, right? DirecTV? Yeah. I mean, unless they reduce... I don't know. Well, didn't they partner with AT&T? Yeah. I mean, that's what happens a lot of times. They'll adjust. I know, but they're going to sell internet now? Well, there's... Well, it's all part of it. As a cable, as watching stuff, you're watching stuff on YouTube TV. And you're not... What are you... I don't know. Cord cutting is a big thing now. Yeah. It's like if you cut cords, DirecTV's out. Unless they're like, oh, we're still...

Internet. Now we do internet. They'll likely adjust to whatever's going to happen. They're not just going to cease to exist, I wouldn't imagine. It seems like you're talking about Blockbuster. I mean, that's like, well, Blockbuster will be fine. I mean, they're just...

2007, Netflix started, offered streaming content to subscribers. However, it could offer about 1,000 movies and TV shows just 1% compared to its more than 100,000 different DVD titles. That's when you would order it. I never really did Netflix that way. 2010, 3D television started hitting the market. Yeah, now some TVs are in 3D. We had one, and they give you glasses. You don't use it.

You're just not. It just never caught on. I think for that reason, you don't want to put on a pair of glasses. What's the point? Well, you could, yeah, you could do it if you were really, it's fun and stuff like people still want to go out. Uh, we went to the movies, the movies open back up here and we went and saw Greece this past weekend. Social distance was all the stuff. Everybody was pretty spread out. It's really not full at all. I mean, it's actually great because no one's really in there and it was sold out, but no one's in there. It's,

But so we watched, they're showing some old movies, Grease, Goonies, Star Wars. Pretty fun. It's fun to see Grease on the movie. What is that? Have you ever heard of Grease? The country, yeah. Yes. No, the movie Grease with John Travolta. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're saying Grease. Grease.

Is that how you say it? It sounded like Greece, the country. I didn't catch that. The words sound the same. Greece, like elbow grease. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I've seen that a lot. Yeah, okay. Yeah. I mean, come on. I'm not doing well so far. Killing me here. Viewers are going down this week. I mean, they don't, you know, you got people rooting against you. But we went and watched that this weekend and you still want to go do stuff. You still want to go to movies. And that was the problem with,

With the 3D and all that kind of stuff is you don't, you know, you're not going to, you're like at home. You're like, not everything can be at home. But I bet that changes what people don't want to. Yeah. Longest running scripted TV show with a total run of 72 years. God.

15 on the radio and 57 on TV in a staggering 18,000 episodes. The Guiding Light is the longest running drama series of all time. The creators even received a Guinness World Record for that. It was canceled by CBS in 2009. I've never heard of it. Me neither. No, I'm joking. I have. What is it? I was joking. It's a soap opera. It's funny. Oh. That was just funny to be like the longest show in the world. My joke was to say I've never heard of it just because it's been on for...

72 years. I'd never heard of it. Really? The Guiding Light. I've heard of many soap operas, but not that one. Wow. That surprises me. Yeah. I think it really tanked around year 50. Like the quality dropped a little bit. I mean, I never watched soap operas, but yeah. I mean, how do you cancel that show? It's just been on. Maybe the ratings are, you just go like, let's go to 100. It's enough. I know, but you might as well go to 100.

If you're at 72, just get to 100. This show was on for 100 years. You act like it was at 98. Yeah. It's 28. 28.

I mean, 2009, we'd be at 82, and now you're... I mean, who cares? Yeah. It's at this point. They haven't heard of it. Well, they're on their third generation of viewers at this point. No, they kept the same actors. Go ahead. Viewers, dude. Oh. All the viewers. If you started watching it at zero... That was what killed it. Yeah. You're dead, but it's still going on. Yeah. That would be funny to do it, and just these real old women just in their...

whatever drama soap operas do. I don't know what they do. Longest running primetime TV show, The Simpsons with 31 seasons and 684 episodes and counting. 31 seasons, man. Simpsons. It came out in 1989 and we had video yearbooks in high school. Did you guys ever have? No. Did you have that? Uh,

I don't think so. It was a new thing for us where they sell you a VHS tape and it was supposed to be like a video yearbook. But they would put historical milestones in there. And on my, I graduated high school 30 years ago. The Simpsons is on my video yearbook is one of the top shows. Oh yeah. And it had just come out. Yeah. Yeah.

And it was big for high school kids. Yeah, yeah. I remember thinking it wouldn't last because... I wasn't allowed to watch it. Yeah, because Bart Simpson cussed and there had never been a cartoon character who did that. And he was defiant to his parents. Eat my shorts. That was... Yeah. And I thought this won't last. My parents watch it. My sister could watch it. My parents are fine with it now that I wasn't allowed to watch it. Never watched it. Obviously, I've seen it. You never watched Family Guy? No. You never watched any of those stuff? I'm a big cartoon guy.

Longest running talk show. The Tonight Show is the world's longest running talk show. Having debuted in 1954, it continues to this day. Yeah, I've been on it a bunch. Out of the... Made me put that in there. Yeah, I've done it... I don't know how many times. I've done 13 late nights. Enough that you've lost count, which is insane to me. Yeah. I mean... Yeah, doing the Tonight Show, it is crazy. Like...

You know, I don't completely remember watching Carson and all that kind of stuff. Did you remember watching it? Oh, yeah. Like, I don't remember. Yeah. I've watched. I've gone back and watched old stuff. I mean, it was they did so much fun stuff.

That one, you see the famous one, Don Rickles, because Don Rickles is filming next to Johnny Carson. And do you know Tonight Show? Yeah. The old Carson, you know, Don Rickles, all that stuff. Yeah. They, we're going to talk to you. Like, I mean, it's not dumb. It's just like, we don't know if you know any, you know. No, it's dumb.

He's not dumb. He might not know anything. He didn't know Greece. I do know Greece. Apparently you don't. I thought you were saying the country. I thought this was like some old movie that was a historical documentary that everybody loved. It is an old movie. You think that's what I'm talking about? An old... I'm going to watch and just be like, did you guys watch a documentary on the country of Greece? Did anybody catch that last night? Greece? Well, I've seen Greece. Assuming I'm never watching something that's making me smarter. So...

And it shows him like... One night he guest hosts and he breaks his cigarette. I mean, it's so funny. He breaks his cigarette box and then Johnny Carson sees it and then everybody's watching. They're like, uh-oh. Like he's now going back. And then Don Rickles is filming next...

like the studio right next to it. And so he walks over during the show and they bring the cameras over and he's like, he just, Don Riggle's filming. He goes, what happened to this? And I mean, it's unbelievable. It's like unreal TV. Yeah, it's great. I mean, it's bringing, it's just awesome. You know, it's funny watching Grease, the country now. And now when I was watching Grease wearing mask, like it's insane. Yeah. You're just watching this old movie.

And you're like, where are we at? Yeah. I mean, I'm like, you know, this is 1978 when this is made. Yeah, yeah.

You're just, and then you got a mat and like, can you feel like it's future? I mean, it's like a futuristic, like you just got this big mask on and then you're just sitting there watching this old movie. Do y'all find that it affects the way you watch everything? Like it is so distracting to me when I watch stuff and I see crowds. That's all I think about. I was like, Oh yeah, this is insane that there are this many people in the same room. I acknowledge, I, I, I do realize that. And then I, but I can move on pretty quickly. Yeah.

I don't get hung up on it. Like some people, uh, you don't, you get hung up like the whole show. You can't. No, I, we were talking about the last day. I'm just thinking about it. We watched the last dance and all those crowds. You think about it now? Yeah. I'm not saying that. Yeah. I think about it. Yeah. You're just saying you have the mental discipline to just put that thought aside. Yeah. And move forward. Look, I don't, yeah. I mean, look, I can go down some thoughts. I mean, it can be a train wreck, but I don't, I,

I realized that, oh, that's crazy. Like they're, you know, I think that's going to be like showing smoking in a movie. Yeah. Eventually just every, you know, uh, long as you're in touch with tonight show, I've been on it multiple times. I just wanted to make sure we didn't skip over that. Uh,

What does Jumping the Shark mean? Jumping the Shark. Do you know Jumping the Shark? I do now, yeah. You read it? Yeah. Had you heard that term? Never. Yeah. Had you heard it? I heard the term for a long time before I knew what it meant. But yeah, I know. Jumping the Shark is a phrase you describe a moment when a TV show that once was widely popular. Did you say popular? Popular. Okay. That has since grown less popular makes a desperate attempt at generating publicity by doing something outrageous.

The phrase derives from an episode of Happy Days in which Fonzie jumps over a shark while on water skis. So in the episode, they literally, Fonzie jumps over a shark because they're trying to be, you know. Trying to gain more. I mean, I literally remember this when it happened. The show had peaked and they're getting desperate. And there's so many sitcoms in the 70s and 80s like this. I feel like TV shows are better now about getting off.

But back then they would just ride them out and they had so many crazy storylines, but there was one, the storyline was they go to, I think Hawaii, the whole gang goes there for some vacation for some reason. And then somehow Fonzie gets challenged and he has to jump a shark on water skis. And they're all like, Fonzie, don't do it. It's so dangerous. But it was just. And he jumped over like real shark.

In the story, yeah. In the story, it's a real shark. Off a ramp, right? A ramp in the water? Yeah, a ramp. Yeah. Did it register to you at the time as this is a ridiculous moment of television? No, because I was so small. I thought it was really, really cool. Yeah, it is pretty cool.

But my understanding is, as always, it's a show that's just... Was once grounded in reality. And then it just becomes a parody of itself, right? Yeah. It's just like... Because they're trying so hard for relevance. Well, yeah. It's crazy to me. They call it jump... I mean, they are... You know, what is it? Jump the shark just to... I mean, that's a phrase. Anything now, yeah. Now, anything. Yeah. Memorable team of villains. That is one of them. Some other ones. Let's see. We're...

Who shot JR? Do you remember that? I do. I remember that. I remember my parents talking about it. I wasn't watching it, but I remember it was a big deal. Have you ever heard of Who Shot JR? Dallas? Yeah. I mean, that was like crazy. What TV moments? Do you remember a TV moment, a TV show that you had to be home to watch in real time? Have you had one? Because you've always had DVRs. I mean, think about, so Us was Sopranos finale. Yeah.

Which, Breaking Bad finale. Breaking Bad finale, I went to someone's house. I was in Cincinnati at a comedy club, and I just went to some guy's house to watch it that night. I don't remember the guy. I don't remember. It was like one of the servers was like, I'm going to my buddy's house to watch it. That guy didn't even really know that I was coming. I just come over and just watch it. I wanted to watch it so bad because I wasn't going to get home for like two more days.

And I was like, I'm going to find out what happens. And I didn't want to find out what happens. And so I went and watched it at someone's house. Yeah. But do you have any? The only thing I can think of in terms of when I was younger would have to be American Idol. Yeah. Reality show.

Yeah, I watched it like my family and my sisters and my parents, but not we all watch it like together. Yeah. Every night it came on. Yeah. That was when I was younger. Yeah. Forget how big that show was. I mean, that was the biggest show on TV for like four years, right? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, it did real good. But you don't remember, there's no, I mean, did you watch Breaking Bad? On Netflix? Yeah. I actually didn't watch Breaking Bad until like sophomore year of college two years ago. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, there's not... Did you have anything that you... Mad Men and Breaking Bad, I watched live. Live, yeah. But I jumped in later. Like, I caught up on Netflix, and then I caught up to where they were. Yeah, I did that with Breaking Bad. I didn't start at the beginning, and then I watched, like, the... I want to say maybe the last season or two live. Live, yeah. I watched...

Last year, I had caught up all the way to on Blacklist. I love Blacklist. And so I watched that on TV for like probably six weeks straight. And then also Prison Break. Yeah, it's fun to watch stuff as it airs. I mean, doing something together as a group is a great thing. And everything is very individualized right now. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, besides sporting events, there's not that many live events that we all experienced. What's your first golf moment you remember? Tiger. Which year? 2005. Yeah, I don't know why I just said the name. Your point's made. When he won the Masters. Has everyone won like 10 strokes? No, that was 98. So in 2005, that was when he had that chip in over the back of the green on 16 against Chris DeMarco. But my earliest sports memory, I think –

was the Red Sox coming back from 3-0 against the Yankees in 2004. Yeah. I remember that. How old were you? I was 8, 7. No, I would have been 8. The bloody sock? Yeah, that was... I remember that. Like it just happened. I think so. It was Curt Schilling. Yeah.

But that was part of the reason I became a Red Sox fan. I feel like that just happened. I mean, I've been through so many things when that happened. Life had just beat me down by the time that was going on. I think you're a wrestler. I mean, just to... It's very fun to talk to a young person. Just to be like, I think my first memory...

And TV, just to be this thing, you're like, dude, I was, I went to the game. Like, you know, like, and you just know, I remember the, the tiger. We're watching that. Yeah. I think my first sports, I remember a Miami, Alabama championship game, maybe 92, 92. I remember that. I remember like Greg, the gain is, I remember him in his head on the diving board for sports.

First NASCAR race I ever watched the whole thing through was Dell, the race, Dell Earnhardt died. Oh, wow. That was your first. That was the first one. I just got to stop watching after that. Yeah, I tuned in. I was like, someone dies every time I watch this. That's what Aaron was thinking. Yeah, that was the first one. Some big moments. I'd be curious to see who remembers what. Some of our listeners. Uh,

Jack Ruby kills Lee Harvey, obviously Bates. What was that? Was that crazy when you saw that on TV? Did you see it coming? That's one of the few on this list. I did not remember seeing it, but that happened live. That's crazy. Can you imagine that? I did not know that happened live. Yeah. I've seen the pictures or whatever, but I've never knew. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. I mean, imagine he just killed him on TV. Yeah.

I mean, now you see people get shot on TV, but I mean, can you imagine? He was actually dying this time. He wasn't pretending like the other shows. Yeah. Man, he gave it his all. Walter Cronkite announcing President Kinney's death. Did you take that hard, Brian? Boy, we're going to really wear this in the ground. Charles and Diana Royal Wedding. I don't remember that.

But Princess Di's funeral... Princess Di's funeral was my first big news thing that I remember. I remember when Princess Di died. It was actually 97, I graduated... Or 98. But I graduated high school. I was maybe just right out of high school. Yeah. And I remember I was over at my friend's house. So you don't remember, like, Oklahoma City bobbing? I do. That was 93, right? I think that was 95. Yes. I do remember that. I do remember that. But Princess Di, like, was...

I don't know. Hit you harder? Yeah. Yeah, that affected me more. 95, I mean, leaving you there, I'm talking about I'm 14, you know, you're getting that. Like, there's a difference between her 15 and then being like 18, you know? Like, I think I just take it. I take stuff in. I don't remember the Space Shuttle Challenger explosion. That's my first, like,

news event remember when it happened i was six i think 85 right i think it was five or six so i but i and most people i was they remember they pulled everybody out of class like the shuttle exploded and they and i but i don't really remember yeah they maybe they did we were so young that most of my friends that in middle tennessee we all had a similar experience we were out for a snow day yeah and i was at my aunt and uncle's house playing with my cousin and my aunt called me and said

Come in here and see this. You know, we were talking about the Oakland City bombing. The thing is, too, when you're that young, you're not watching the news. So unless my parents are showing me the news, there's no social media. So I'm playing and no one's talking to me. And Princess Di, it was at night. It was kind of late, middle of the night. My mom watches all that Royal Wedding stuff.

Every one of it. The MASH finale, do you remember that? I do. I never watched one episode of MASH. I didn't watch it either. It's a very adult comedy. Yeah. My dad likes it. Yeah. Even the finale was very dark. Yeah. I have no idea what the finale was. Yeah. OJ Simpson Chase, would you remember that? When was that? 94? Oh, no. He wasn't even born. John, do you remember it?

John, go ahead. You don't remember that night? I do. I do remember it. Okay. I remember watching, but again, I don't think I was, you know, I'm 13, like I'm doing my own thing. That was like the first years of Michael Jordan where, you know, I don't, I remember Jordan Moore, 95, 96. What year were you born? 79. So you'd have been 15. 15. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, but like, I just don't think I'm,

I'm in my own world at 15. And 41. And 41. Yeah. As big as Omar's, well, Tom Cruise jumps on Oprah's couch. I remember that. Do you remember that? Why was that a big deal? It was just, he was very... He was the most famous person in the world at this point. And he just did something so crazy on national television.

He was talking about how in love he was with his wife and he jumped on top of a couch and it was just this insanely famous person being crazy. Everyone was like, what is going on? I thought he was having like a mental breakdown. Yeah. It's a weird phase of his life.

The Wire one, you kind of skipped it. Well, I didn't. That was like if someone hasn't watched The Wire. But isn't there a... Yeah. Omar's death on The Wire. Your friend told me that while I was watching it. Really? Yeah. I was in the middle of watching it, and we were at Zany's one night after a show, and it was your buddy. And he was like, we were talking about The 11th Wire, and he's like, man, when Omar died and that kid killed him.

And I was like, I haven't got there yet. Yeah. You were standing there, but it was like, okay. Planes hitting the World Trade Center is obviously that. I remember extremely well. What's weird is I don't remember that at all. Like, I feel like I should. No. Oh, it wasn't. Yeah, yeah. 2001. So you shouldn't. Yeah. But there's a lot. There's some people. Maybe they just claim they know it. But like, I've heard people my age be like, yeah, I kind of remember that.

I don't remember it at all. I think there's a lot of people, I think there's a lot of times you think you remember it and you've just seen it so much that it just seeps in that you kind of go like, no, I remember it. And you're like, you don't really. Yeah. I, yeah, I would, I mean, 9-11, I was, I was recycling tires.

It's crazy. That's why I don't do that. I tell my wife, I don't manual labor. Like I'm done. I've done it all. I've cut grass my whole life. I've recycled tires out of caves. I mean, it was, dude, mosquitoes lay their eggs because water sits in the bottom of a tire and mosquitoes lay their eggs. So every single tire is just, it was on, the job was on dirty jobs. Really? The job that you did? I did the job that was on dirty jobs. This guy, one of them guy dumped all these tires in a cave.

And cause back, this was during the Ford recall where they took all the tires for it, had it for exporters all had their tires taken. And so you recycle when you recycle tires, we, you'd be like, you'd work for a company. They pay you to pick them up, but then you have to pay to get them recycled. And we would drive the trucks and we, this one guy, uh,

Took the money to get him to pick them up, and then he would just go dump them in a cave. He wasn't going to spend the money. He was like, that guy got caught fraud. But we had to go get those tires out of that cave. And, I mean, we just had to back our trucks back into this cave. And then just you would always, like, bounce it off your chest and then roll it to the – and then they would stack them. I mean, you can stack a lot of tires in a box truck because you're crisscrossing. And so you're just sitting there, like, just bouncing off your chest and rolling them in there. Wow. I mean, it's the most –

just dumb person job you know just like can you bounce them off your chest and send them to the back of that truck i can do that like it's just there's no big words being thrown around there any of these other we're gonna get through some of these uh uh janet jackson's wardrobe malfunction i remember that you yeah you know that super bowl oh yes yes

Uh, Hugh Grant on Jay Leno after prostitution bust. That was a big deal. Yeah. Cause that was like, yeah. An interview. That really helped Jay Leno in the ratings. I think, I feel like I've heard that kind of helped him jump past Letterman. Yeah. Uh, moon landing. No, uh, don't remember that one. Brian, I'm gonna let you take away here. Moonland new heart finale where he wakes up from a dream. I remember that. Yeah. I, uh,

I don't think I was allowed to watch these shows as much. And that's, you know, but Bob Newhart. Yeah. That was an amazing ending, right? That was no one. Very creative. Very creative. And it was in, it went into his other show. Yeah. Do you guys know this? Do you know who Bob Newhart is? Mm-mm.

No, it was just kind of agreeing. Did he have, correct me if I'm wrong, he had a show and then at the end he wakes up and the whole show had been a dream? Yeah. Okay. But more than that, he had a show previously that was pretty successful on TV with obviously a different TV wife. So when he wakes up from his dream, he looks over at his wife and it's the other wife from the first show. Oh, wow.

So that's pretty creative. Yeah. And he goes, I just had this crazy dream. That's how they ended the second show. So the second show was a dream that the character in the first show had the whole time? Well, I mean, that's the funny play they put on it. You're saying that's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Bob Newhart had a pretty good career. Yeah. Like, I mean, just two mega shows. He's the from Elf.

he's Will Ferrell's dad. Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. I know who that is. Talk to him. That's all right. That's why I first knew him. Yeah. The guy from elf. All right. I remember most of this, how ratings calculated. I've always wondered this. You can do this part. All right. So, um, well that, I mean, you can, I'll hear it. Let me just read it. Nielsen ratings are calculated based on a sample of 40,000 homes and about a hundred thousand people that demographically represent the population as a whole. Um,

It's a small fraction of the 120 million or so homes with TV, but also a lot more than a typical political poll that surveys just a couple thousand people. So the Nelson ratings, they're saying that it's, I mean, they're taking shots at the political poll. This article, dude. Yeah, so they're basically saying we're in more homes. We're going to get more accurate readings. Yeah, Nelson's kind of like the standard rating system. I think there are some other ones out there. Did you have a Nelson box?

um i never did i wasn't i couldn't for almost 20 years because i worked at a tv station so it wasn't allowed oh okay um or my family wasn't allowed either because because that was you know biased yeah but um i certainly have known of people that have had it yeah i've never i don't know if i've known anybody that had nelson box they're still there now but now they're calculating ratings by so many other places so many other things yeah

How are DVRs factored into ratings? Yeah, I've always wondered that. So basically, Nielsen uses a live plus service where, according to this, it tracks three major categories, live plus same day, live plus three, and live plus seven.

So if there was a big TV finale and the next day they had the ratings, that probably wouldn't be super accurate because they haven't factored in DVRs yet. Sporting events is probably accurate because most people watch that live. Not many people DVR in a football game to watch a week later. Right. But there is some delay now because so many people watch shows on DVRs.

Yeah, I mean, with streaming, like, you know, the stream ratings are, like you said, they're not really a thing. Like my Netflix, I've never known how good it does. My Netflix special. Never been told, never been. They're coming up with systems now that they're trying to find because Netflix never gives out those numbers. Netflix knows. Yeah, that's next on the list. Yeah. Netflix knows down to, that's what made me do it.

Nelson, with streaming ratings, they're not really a thing. Nelson measures the audience for streaming shows, but Netflix and other platforms have disputed the rating service numbers as they don't count viewing on other devices. Netflix considers a piece of content as having been viewed when a member watches at least 70% of one episode of a series or 70% of a feature film. It also counts subscribers around the world rather than just the domestic viewers that Nelson measures.

The numbers can be useful in comparing one Netflix show to another, but the service has thus far only publicly released highlights, not a full tally. So they've never really shown anything. They, you know, besides like Bird Box or something, they would say. And then for my special, I mean, the only thing they ever told us once they go, it did, there was like, they were like, we're very happy.

And that's what they would, that's all they would say. Yeah. And now you can tell the only way I can tell is by you sell more tickets. You people are coming to some of these shows and that's how the gauge I can get, or if I get recognized more when I'm out, there's that it's, there's the only way I can really know like how good this Netflix. And they probably have so much data more than anybody else, right? They could narrow it down. They could tell you what's your worst joke of your special. Just how many people X out during that joke, right?

Well, I think I could tell you that. I don't know if he's taking shots. I mean, he's X-ing out because of one joke. He goes, done, hated that joke, X out, start back. You're saying fast forward.

You can see that too. They can see it all. I'm saying they probably know more about your act than you do. Yeah. It's funny to get, because these ratings are such a, you just wish you would know. But they did that with Stranger Things. So with Stranger Things, those kids, when they first tried to get money for the second season, the agents were like, we want a ton of money.

And they were like, the show didn't do that good. They're like, yeah, well, these kids can't walk outside. They're getting mobbed. So it did pretty good. And that was all they could... But they're doing that so they can't gauge off that. I also heard how Netflix, when they first made their shows, how they made their shows so good, where they would just take...

like they could look at Netflix when they made a show and they're like, all right, what actor is, does everybody like the most at this time? It was like Kevin Spacey, which obviously not now, but whenever it was. And then they go, and who's the best director that everybody seems like the most? I forget who the director was. And then they did House of Cards and whoever did that. So they just were like,

What movies do the best? Oh, everybody likes Kevin Spacey. We'll get him. Director, everybody seems to like that guy. We'll get him. It's like building a fantasy team, dude. Yeah, and you can just go look through it all. That's pretty cool. Top rated TV shows in the last 30 years. Cheers, 60 Minutes. 60 Minutes always just does good. Seinfeld, 94, 95. ER made a big run. I remember my mom loved ER.

ER was big. ER was on a long time, 95 to 99. Seinfeld back to 97, 98. Funny, Seinfeld, for how big that show was, it was only rated twice. I mean, you would think Seinfeld got way more respect afterwards. Yeah. Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, Survivor, Friends, 01, 02. Friends was in 2001. I thought it was already done.

That was the tail end of it, wasn't it? Yeah, I think it ended in 03 or 04. CSI, 02 to 05. So a fun CSI story that I've heard. And again, this all could be fake. But so CSI, when they were on, are they on CBS, right? CBS, yeah.

So I think ABC had them first. So ABC had CSI. Do you know CSI? Yeah. ABC had CSI when they made the show. So they made the pilot and ABC was like, ABC Studios and ABC Network had it. They made the pilot and then ABC was like, we don't want it. And then CBS was like, well, we'll take it.

And usually, like if you watch Modern Family, Modern Family is 20th century Fox, but it's on ABC. So the studio is now that they try to keep that stuff kind of together, like CBS Studio is on CBS. But it doesn't always universal is NBC, but sometimes they can have shows on Fox because because when you do, you try to make you make a show with a studio and then you take it out with the studio to the networks. You try to get the networks to buy it.

And so your first one is to try to stay in the family. And if it doesn't work, you can then go other places. So CSI...

They make an ABC, ABC's like, we don't want it. So then CBS is like, we'll take it. And then they're like, the show's not going to be anything. And they go, we're so confident that we're also give it, like we won't even keep it as the studio. So CBS can have it as a studio, which never, they usually do. And it becomes the biggest show in the world. And they lost billions, billions of dollars. And they,

It was, I mean, a huge mistake that they did that. And then they started making all those other shows, NCIS, all these spinoffs. And it was when, because of that happened, they're now starting to, but for a long time, everybody was like, when the show was done, it was like, you can't go anywhere else. And then no one was just giving up. The studios weren't just giving that stuff up. Cause you would, you would have at least got some of that instead of you getting pretty crazy. Yeah.

American Idol, I mean, 05 to basically 2011. Why didn't you just put 05 to 11? Well, I think it just got... I think Laura shortened it maybe because I had every year just American Idol, American Idol, American Idol, and I think maybe she shortened it. He's doing the best he can.

You're asking John if he knows a show that's on right now. CSI. He doesn't even watch CSI. I've seen it. Sunday Night Football, NCIS, Big Bang Theory. Big Bang Theory, 16 to 18. To have a sitcom be ranked that high is just now because it's just not happening. I found it interesting. Emmy Awards, the Golden Globes, it's usually all won by...

either streaming shows now or paper or, uh, you know, like HBO showtime, all the top rated shows though are still on networks. Yeah. ABC, NBC, CBS. Interesting. Or Fox. Uh, highest rated TV episodes of all time. Mash the goodbye, farewell, and amen.

That's crazy. Rating 60.2, share 77. And you know what that stuff means. Yeah. From what I remember in my TV days, a rating is the total number of TVs that are showing the episode. Share is the total number of TVs that are on that are watching that episode. Does that make sense? Like if you have...

Oh, so the MASH finale, 70% of all TVs that were turned on were turned on to the MASH finale. Yeah, 77% of all TVs were turned on and watching that. And 60% of all TVs, period, were watching the MASH finale. Wow. Okay. That makes sense. Okay. So that had to be... How many people? Yeah. 100 million? Yeah, basically...

I think I saw last night, it was 106 million TVs at that time. No, no, no, it was more than that. I think over 100 million people watched the MASH finale. That's crazy. It's crazy. So like Super Bowl and all that stuff that, yeah. Super Bowl is now...

Get around 100 million viewers. But that was... But it's still not as high as this? Well, Super Bowls get more viewers now. Yeah. Total number of people. But actual ratings, percentage-wise, MASH still holds the record. Yeah. Just because there's so many more people now in the United States than there was in 1983. Right. Dallas is number two. Roots, number three. Yep. I don't know the Roots. What was... Roots was a miniseries. Yeah. O.J. Simpson.

What? He was in Roots. Oh, OJ was in Roots? Yeah. I didn't even know that. I didn't know. Come on, dude. Winter Olympics. Well, he wasn't like the star of it. No, he wasn't Kunta Kinte, but he was. Yeah, okay. Super Bowls, all that. Monday Night at the Movies, Gone with the Wind Part 2 was a big one. Just kind of going through them quick. So what we wanted to do is we're going to go through some of these to talk about our favorite shows and our favorite stuff, you know.

Like, are your parents favorite? My parents' favorite TV show was, I mean, it was Andy Griffith. It's probably Seinfeld now, but they love Big Bang Theory. Everybody loves, they've loved a bunch. But Andy Griffith, I think, was what I remember. That was my favorite. I mean, Andy Griffith is one of my favorite shows ever. Super funny show. Yeah. Do you remember? That was big in our house. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, from, from, I mean, I hope it's, it's going to be something, uh, Ed Sullivan show. No, but it's, uh, I mean, the Friday night block was big for me and my family. Um,

On CBS. On where? On CBS. I can tell you any show in the 80s, I can tell you what network it was on. Because I only had three channels. I didn't have cable until I got to college. So George Costanza spelling everybody's name. Yeah. That's my thing. So The Incredible Hulk came on Friday nights from 7 to 8. I was big into that. Then The Dukes of Hazzard from 8 to 9. Followed it. And me and my dad love...

yeah and then dallas came on from nine to ten and my mom loved that so i'd say dallas is probably the show that my parents yeah that's a powerful block that's a hell of a yeah those are three classic shows yeah wow uh well the first historic news is talked about that first what's the first show you remember watching regularly i said for me it was law and order svu because usa i don't know if they still do this they used to show law and order for like

All day, it felt like. So we used to just sit and watch that. That's a little much as a kid to watch a bunch of episodes of. It gets pretty dark on there, but we'd watch that. What about you? Seinfeld? Yeah, I mean, it might be Seinfeld. It could be, you know, like if I'm really dating back, it could be like a Disney channel maybe or a Nickelodeon type thing. Yeah. But probably Seinfeld. It maybe would be a Disney...

I had Nickelodeon. I don't remember watching Disney growing up. Nickelodeon. Yeah, I remember watching Andy Griffith. That was the big one that we were allowed to watch. Saturday morning cartoons were big. Yeah, I mean, not counting like... Tom and Jerry. Mr. Rogers. Tom and Jerry was classic. Captain Kangaroo or something like that. I mean, if you're talking about... For me, it'd probably still be Dukes of Hazzard that I watched every week. Yeah, yeah. That you remember, yeah. I remember watching Dukes of Hazzard.

Favorite TV. Well, I'm trying to go through. Let's just get into the final. What are your... Do you have a favorite reality show? Do you watch any of them? I don't like reality shows, but I'd have to say Hard Knocks. Yeah. Hard Knocks is great. That's good. I forgot. I like Hard Knocks. It's more like a documentary. Yeah. I guess that's what they want you to think reality shows are. I don't know. Well, then if that doesn't count, Last Comic Standing. No, it counts. Last Comic Standing. Yeah.

Yeah. Last Come, Last Stand. I'm watching 90 Day Fiance now. It's a pretty good time. Yeah, it seems like everybody likes that. I've heard a lot about it. I don't know what it is. It can get sad real quick, but if you push past that, it's great. If you compartmentalize that sadness, yeah, it's a good time. What's your top favorite drama? Mine is Breaking Bad.

I think Breaking Bad's the best. I think it's the best show I've ever seen. I've watched it. I've went through it multiple times. I love Sopranos, but there was parts of Sopranos that have been being... Sopranos, I'm saying, is at the top. The Wire, too, by the way, I can't...

I'm trying to go back to it. I'm not a giant Wire fan. I think it's very slow. I don't know. Have you ever watched a TV show you can watch in just a weird time and you're like, I'm not giving this show. It's probably fair shake. I kind of went through the Wire and I just think, I don't know, I wasn't into it. Breaking Bad, Sopranos, the therapist stuff, you can kind of tell when you go back and re-watch something.

What how much are you fast right? Are you really in Sopranos when you really truthfully go back and I watch it I'm fast forward in a bit really I mean the therapist stuff and

you know, some white, like it's, you're kind of getting to the mob stuff is what you want to go see when you get to go back and watch it. I think Sopranos is amazing. Unbelievable show. But I'm just saying, you're not doing that with Breaking Bad. You don't skip episodes. Not much. I mean, maybe some, some stuff with the, it's like nothing. I don't care. It's like the family wife shoplifting. The fly. Yeah. Like any, any of stuff with, uh,

Yeah, with Hank's wife. Yeah, but she goes shoplifting. Heard that whole storyline I don't care about. And so like, yeah, I'm fast forwarding kind of stuff. But I mean, when she goes into those houses and like makes stuff up, that's kind of interesting. That's pretty fun. Yeah. But it's, yeah, I mean, there's not a ton of stuff. And I, you know, we talked about, I think...

Better Call Saul is amazing. Better Call Saul is great. Yeah, it can run up there. I don't think it's better than Breaking Bad. I think Breaking Bad is the best show that's ever been made as far as drama. I love Breaking Bad, but I also love Blacklist. I really like Blacklist. Yeah, my dad likes Blacklist. It's kept me coming back because I think the character Raymond Reddington is flawless. He's phenomenal. That's James Spader, right? Yeah, yeah.

I remember when it came out. It was on NBC, right? And then, yeah, I remember it took... I need to watch it again. I never really watched it. I didn't care for that hat he wears. Yeah. That made me not watch it. Yeah. Is it worth getting over the hat? A lot of people say the same thing about you. Yeah. I'm not wearing... It's very funny you have that hat on. Who's a grown man wearing a Jason Mraz fedora? I don't understand. You're a grown man wearing a flowered Notre Dame. Like, what...

I have no idea what, I mean, you're talking about, I think, I think it's worth watching. I mean, it can be a little like, there's just so much that goes on like later in the seasons. Like you, you start, there's a lot of like cliffhangers at the end of episodes. Okay. Yeah. Is it on somewhere? Yeah. It's still on TV. It's on Netflix though. That's what I meant. Okay, cool. Yeah.

That's such a different way to say it right there. Because you know what? Is it on somewhere? That was never... When I was a kid, I was like, what are you talking about? It's available somewhere easy for me to watch. What's your... What's y'all's favorite drama? Mine's The West Wing. Yeah. I love The West Wing. Oh, I love The West Wing. Who watches it? Aaron Sorkin was kicked off his own show after season four. So the...

show really tanks in quality after that. But those first four seasons, it was like the most decorated TV show ever. It won everything, dude. I've never watched it. It's really good. It is a high effort show to watch, though. Yeah. You can't be on your phone. You gotta be watching. You drive and watch it. You drive and watch it. Well, I drive and listen to it, and it's like my 15th time listening to it, so I know what's happening. Yeah, so you don't...

But you gotta like really pay attention. Martin Sheen's great in that. Martin Sheen, yeah, so good. Brian's good friends with him. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Why did you say that? They have a picture together. Oh, that's right. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's 20 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. What's your favorite drama? I mean, I think you've already named Sopranos, Breaking Bad, The Wire. Yeah.

You know what's frustrating? You have a show that you really like and you just don't know anybody else that watches it. And you try to get people to get into it and you just can't. Breaking Bad was like that for me. Breaking Bad was...

It took a long time for me to... Everybody keeps talking about it, and you're like, okay. I'll watch it. Think about Breaking Bad. I mean, I always think that when someone sells a TV show now, and you try to do that kind of thing, you can look at any network you could be like, you could go to any network, because AMC was not a network that was desired to go to. And then Breaking Bad went there, and it's now this... It's like... I mean, so be it. They're...

It's harder to get on it, basically. Their quality is pretty high. Yeah. So you can't just get stuff on, which is pretty interesting. I mean, what is The Walking Dead? Yeah. Mad Men was on there, too. I mean, crazy, dude. Those are three enormous shows. Enormous shows. And the AMC would show old movies. They're still feeding off that Walking Dead stuff.

Are there spinoffs? Yeah, now it's called The Fear of the Walking Dead or something like that. It's nuts. It's still going on. I saw a commercial for it the other day.

I think I watched the first season. I just don't care about zombies. Right. And so I didn't watch it. Yeah. That Game of Thrones. One of the things you didn't care about. I don't care about Game of Thrones. Yeah. I watched the first four episodes and it was really slow and I lost interest. I did too. But one of the shows like you're saying that nobody watches that I really like is called Peaky Blinders. It's on Netflix. It is pretty dark, a lot of killing.

um but i love it i think it's british right i think yeah yeah it's the guy what's the main actor benedict cumberbatch i thought it was jillian jillian murphy no it's not it's not him no he's a scarecrow in batman yeah oh that he looks a little bit like benedict yeah yeah okay sure just you can't just let it go all these british guys look the same no i think they're friends yeah yeah

They, I watched, I think the first season of that show too. And I just, but again, that's one that I think I would like, but then I get caught and it's, you know, and it's foreign. And then you're like, I'm joking. I wonder how many people don't watch something truly, no matter what country you're from. If the people are not talking like you, you're like, I can't, I can't do this. Do you think a lot of people? No. No.

Yes. It's annoyed me sometimes. I'm saying... Do I want to read the subtitles of this whole show? If someone's from England... They're speaking English. Yeah, they're speaking English. I know, but if someone's from England, I mean, I bet there's times where they're like, I can't listen to this American. Yeah, I don't want to watch Swap people and listen to these. And listen to these Americans talk the whole time. I'm not saying it's not a bad thing. I'm just saying there's times where you could be like, all right. Yeah. Maybe not. I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe you guys are better than me. You know what?

I've tried watching Fleabag, which is in the top comedy right now, and just couldn't get into it. And some of it was because of the accents.

And he really all went off on me. And then we've all now listed examples, recent examples, not even you're going, well, you know what? My uncle. So let's just do these top three. Our two favorite six comedies in that we like are the office and Seinfeld. We're all huge fans of them, which I found out to my buddy, Greg Garcia. He created Seinfeld.

my name is Earl. Uh, the guest book Miller's raising hope. Yes, dear. Unbelievable. Created all this stuff. Unbelievably funny guy. And he,

He told me why his, because they always say the office, this is the people that were saying the 40-year-old virgin, the office did so good because the 40-year-old virgin. Apparently, but what Greg Daniels has said is a big part of it was the lead in for them that second season was, my name is Earl. And my name is Earl. It was doing great. And so that lead in was the gigantic help.

It wasn't that like people like, Oh, that's the guy from the movie. Let's go watch his show. I think lead ends really matter in TV. That's a huge, huge help. If any show that's getting a lot of viewers, if they want them to do good, they throw another show behind it. Cause you're going to get people that will hang on and be like, all right, what's this about? You know? And so, yeah, it was pretty, that's all your answers to the four year old virgin. Well, they had a big, they had a big, they followed the Superbowl one year.

Yeah. The office. And that was huge. Cause it's just, it's the single highest, you know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Uh, so top three episodes, uh, of the office, uh, you know, go ahead. Do you want to. All right. Uh, and I'll quickly explain each one. Uh, booze cruise. That's an early one. I just really like it. Cause, um, it's very funny. And that's when Roy and Pam get engaged, uh,

Jim's very upset. He breaks up with Amy Adams' character. Michael tells everyone the ship is sinking and gets...

tied to the ship rails. But I love the ending because I love the episodes where Michael, who's dumb, but he has a big heart and he ends up saying something that kind of helps. And Jim goes out there, Jim's all down because Pam's engaged. And Michael says something that encourages him to don't give up and keep trying. It's a very sweet scene, I think. I just always liked it. Yeah. Oh, and then I'll go quicker. Business school.

which I know we both like that. You talk about that a little bit and, um, and dinner party, which is a lot of people's favorites, but I love it. It's so funny. Yeah.

Yeah. Are y'all's different or one's the same for me? Business school. I think his presentation to the class is so funny. He's throwing the candy bars out. And then there's also that emotional moment at the end where he, he and Pam, he shows up. It's my favorite moment of the whole show when he shows up. Yeah. Yeah. Is that any rips the guy's textbook? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite moment of the entire series was,

Is that, what's your other two? My other one is Stress Relief. I think it's part two where he hosts a roast. Oh, yeah. In the warehouse. Yeah, that was so good. Yeah, that was awesome. But that's part of the, what's the office is so good. It's so funny, but those emotional moments, they hit like they work for me. Yeah. You know?

um you know I didn't prepare very well for this one uh clearly but business school for sure was one of mine and we're all saying that but I did write it down so it's true um and then I did survivor man when he goes out into the wild and is like cutting his you know Dwight's like watching him the whole time and then uh the merger is what I put down because that the only thing I put the merger down for is because I really like at the beginning when he gathers them all in the conference room that was my fourth one oh so I did pretty good yeah um

And he gets everyone in the conference room and just makes it a...

When he pushes Tony up on that table. Oh, my gosh. Survivor Man, one of the hardest I've ever laughed on The Office was when he cuts his pants and he cuts his shirt off because it's going to be hot. And then they just turn to me. They're all duct taped back on because he's got a little more chillier than I thought. That's one of the hardest I've laughed on a show just because it was so...

It was, I don't know, it was just so crazy. The office was one of the first, maybe not, one of the first sitcoms for me to watch

every week on TV. I'm 41 now. It's been out for a long time. When you're in your 20s, I'm doing comedy every night. I wasn't watching TV. The Office was one of the first. I was a little more in comedy. I would get home and I would watch it every night. Maybe I DVR'd that in Dirty Rock. DVR was there. I could go see it. I was busy. The Office was one of the first ones that I was like, oh, we're watching this

Yeah. Uh, I love the British version so much of the office that when the American first started, it took me a little time to get used to the characters cause I love the other characters so much, but then, but then it became great itself. Yeah. Yeah. The, so when you talk minor, uh,

and it's true. I had, uh, another one too, is when Dwight sets everything up for when he sets the whole, I thought about that one. That's the one that aired for the Superbowl. That's right. That's right. It's one of the best when he goes, but today's smoking is going to save lives. And then, uh, and he just says, I mean, he was just shouting direction as everybody's losing their mind. The fire is shooting at us. Yeah. You say bandit, right? Yeah. The cat. Unbelievable episode. Uh, and then, uh,

I was going to say the job when he goes, because the Pam, Jim and Pam moments are enormous. And so when he goes and takes that job, when he opens that door and she's doing that interview and then he knocks on it and says like, hey, are you free for dinner tonight? It's a date. I can watch that. I've watched that episode a few times for that moment. Just because it was so good about them getting together.

You wanted them together so bad. And I thought they did pretty good keeping it up to that moment. Yeah, I think a good part of that episode. It was earned, dude. Very earned. You were excited for their wedding. Then they had a kid. And then, I mean, it was great. And seeing that moment. So the job, I would say the fire thing, whichever episode that one was. And then...

the business school, which not to, I know I always say that I always, but I wrote a show with the guy that wrote that episode. I, you know, I,

doing all the stuff I did. So Brent Forrester and, uh, we, one of the shows I wrote, we wrote it together. And, uh, it was like, when we talked about it, I told, I didn't realize it. I was like telling him my favorite episode was that episode in the office. He worked on the office. I worked with Hostet Sullivan, another writer for the office that wrote another episode. He wrote the episode, uh, where, uh, he falls into the Koi pond. Yeah.

He wrote the Koi Pond episode. Koi Pond's good. And I think also the women's suit episode. But the Koi Pond thing happened. Halstead that wrote it, it happened to one of his friends. Really? And so something happened, and that's how they got that idea, which is very interesting to think about how they got these real ideas. Business school, though, when he goes, the whole thing is unbelievable.

The whole episode, that's your favorite line. What's the best advice someone's ever given you? Don't be an idiot. Change my life. Change my life. That's that episode. Yeah. And then him going in there and just, I hope he's saying some good things. You're a failing company. He's a good manager. Doesn't fire people. He hires people. That's...

And then when he goes to Pam, no one's going to Pam's art show. And when he goes to Pam's art show, that's maybe my favorite moment in the whole series. And I told Brent that, and like, before I realized he wrote that, I was like, it was such a big deal for him to come and everybody to be like, who cares? And he is truly blown away by her drawing. Right. And he's like, this, I mean, this is unbelievable that you did this. Like, it's going to be traces. It's going to be traces. Freehand? It's, uh,

It's just, how much? I don't see it. I mean, just how sweet that is. You can really feel that it's coming. He means it. He wrote two of my favorite. I'm looking at season three here, which is my favorite season. But if you look at the writers there on the screen, Brent Forster wrote The Merger and Business School. Yeah. Yeah.

That's the best season, I think. I love the on the job one. Like, I love the part where Michael doesn't understand he's interviewing for Jan's job. Yeah. And so, like, when he tells him, he's like, let's just run away together. You can pay off all my debts. Just get out of here. Season three begins with the merger. And I mean, not totally, but that's all in there. It ends with Jim asking Pam.

Yeah, on that day. Product recall is so funny when he holds that press conference. It goes bad. Oh, yeah. We don't want your business. We don't want you. If you think I'm going to... That's what I was saying earlier. You think I'm going to quit over this? What did he say? He's like, well, you think I'm going to resign over this? Well, you're going to have to drag me out of this office because I will die. You're like...

2,400 rolls or six rings, whatever comes first. Yeah, that's one of my favorite moments on the show where he says, the headline will read, local paper company says like 100 words. Some companies still know how it's done.

All right. Let's talk about Seinfeld. Seinfeld is our favorite show. Aaron, are you how much of a Seinfeld guy are you? Not as big as you two and maybe you, John. But I'm enough to all hang. You're hanging. That's all you want to be in golf. You're a guy in golf that you're like, I just don't want to be a problem out there. I want to hit the ball forward. I just don't want to be a liability, dude. Right. Yeah. We're still working on that with Nate, but.

Yeah. Yeah. So Seinfeld, we talked Seinfeld is our favorite show. So we watch it. I watch it every day. I watch it last night. I watch it. I eat. I mean, it's Seinfeld's my guy. It's my comedian. When he documented about him starting to stand in comedy was a huge deal. I moved to Chicago first.

to start comedy and comedian I watched in the movie theater and I was like by myself in this theater it's called Comedian it's called Comedian it's on Netflix it's on Netflix I saw it yeah it's about how it's a great if someone hasn't seen it shows you kind of how the New York comedy scene works and I remember seeing that and I remember being like that's where I have to be if I want to be doing stand up and then that's when I moved to place to be

what do we call it? It's the place to be. And so I knew going there, going to New York was what I had to do for standup. Yeah. Seinfeld is, I've never met him. Uh, but I mean, he's the, he's the guy. I mean, he's, uh,

Everything he's done, his career has been basically perfect. There's nothing really he's done. The Marriage Ref, our friend Tom Popposten, it still was a great show. I just think he got caught. There's no way that he produced that, but it's the only thing that he did that wasn't basically a major hit, and he wasn't in it.

Seinfeld wasn't. He just produced it. But he was on it. Oh, Larry David did an episode. Yeah. Okay, I remember that. With Madonna. Ricky Gervais. It was a pretty good... I actually think it was a great idea. Yeah. But it was... I mean, look, Comedians in Cars. Unbelievable. Yeah, I like that a lot. The Bee movie, unbelievable. Yeah. And obviously Seinfeld, unbelievable. I mean, everything he's done in his stand-up and his stand-up specials are great.

I mean, it's pretty crazy. The last time I'm going to tell you this is stand up. I mean, I could say all the words to it. I could quote, like it was the first really stand up that I really dove in and listened to and like try to picture like, why is he saying these words here and this word here and like really like broke it down. So for Seinfeld, the episode, I mean, so the series, we always say the first, probably first four episodes,

Three seasons? Definitely first three. And are tough to watch. But a big reason for that, A, the characters don't know, and it's just shot old. Yeah, they're not... I wouldn't say they're tough to watch. I would just say they're not as good as the later seasons. But just like we were talking, I went back and watched part of the first and second season. And like you said, how they're shot is like...

If they were at this table right now, if Jerry was talking, it would be on him. It wouldn't be back here where you could see everybody talking like it does in the later episodes. It's very individualized. Ruth's never seen it, and we just started watching it this past weekend. Who's Ruth for everybody? That's my wife. That's a callback to the...

First of all, she just finished The Office and she works for a paper company. That's unbelievable. That's kind of crazy. So now we're watching Seinfeld and we watched the Seinfeld Chronicles. Kramer is called Kessler. In episode two or three, Jerry's dad's a different person. Wait, the very first one, Kramer's called Kessler? Yeah. The pilot he is? Yeah, in the Seinfeld Chronicles. Here's what's crazy.

When you think about these pilots and them changing that kind of stuff, they changed that. At that moment, they probably think, that's insane. People are going to know that forever. And nobody would... That would be a trivia question that most people would probably get wrong. Yeah. But they changed the dad. Yeah. Right. They just changed the dad. If you told someone, they'd be like, did they? And I remember...

It's like when we shot that pilot, it was like, if stuff ever changed, you're like, well, you can't ever change it. And then you really think back, you're like, dude, if you get a good run at a show, nobody's going to care. You know, Fresh Prince, they just changed the mom in the middle of the show. Yeah. And The Office, Pan's mom changed. Yeah. Yeah.

I looked at Seinfeld. There's a lot of people called double dippers, they call them. There's a bunch. And it's how many people have appeared as two different people during this series. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. And it's a lot. You posted one about Matthew Perry, right?

Didn't he do that on the West Wing? Yeah. Matthew Perry, the actual person, makes a cameo on the West Wing. And then six seasons later, Matthew Perry shows up as a character. So he played himself? He was seen at... They were at some Hollywood party. Oh, Matthew Perry's over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he shows up as... Yeah, Seinfeld has a bunch where they're... The person...

One of them specifically was the woman with the voice, I just don't like your act, Jerry. I just watched that one. Yeah, an old one. And then she's the waitress with the short hair. She looks completely different. That one, you could look at them side by side and you would probably not realize it. And they were so far apart.

In the pilot, it lists, in the opening credits, Jerry Seinfeld, Michael Richards, Jason Alexander, and Val, somebody, I think. Of course, Julia Louis-Dreyfus wasn't in it, and the waitress was supposed to have been the fourth character. And then I saw where Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld said, I just don't think they'd be hanging out with a waitress that often. So they changed the character. Think about that poor woman. She was in the pilot. Well, think about the dad. Yeah.

The dad's worse than the woman. Why? She was going to be a regular. Oh. Yeah, that wasn't... Yeah. I mean, she was in the opening credits. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. I mean, Morty, they're not on there that often. They're on there a lot, though. I mean, you're going to be in it... What, three episodes a season or something? Yeah. Four episodes? Yeah, I mean, that's what's crazy is you have to, like, those decisions are, you know...

I mean, you just, but it's like, you just do it. I think, I wonder if too, if everybody knows to give a show a chance, like how much do you think when people watch the show, they're like, let me give the show a real shot. Like, you know, look, we think about this podcast. Not every one of these episodes can be great.

of anything can really be great all the time. So this one, we're, these aren't even on, uh, John, we just let him sit in. This is part of his Vandy class. Uh, my internship, but it's, you know, like, so do people really give it a go? Like in Seinfeld, Seinfeld was almost canceled. And it, I mean, it really, they, I mean, it was a fight to like get it. And then it shows you that they don't do that stuff anymore as not as often where they give shows real chances. Yeah. Uh,

And really be like, now let them build an audience. Let them, you know, it's going to be there. Because now it's such like, it's either got to be out the gate great. Think about pilot's.

When you go look at pilots that are made, what's the most famous Cosby show? Do you ever watch the Cosby show? Yeah, I've watched him maybe, I don't know, probably 40 times in my life. When he goes, Theo, the real super famous scene. That's the pilot. It's the pilot. Theo, when he breaks down money. I never realized that, yeah. He breaks down money. He goes, you got this much money. He's telling Theo, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And he gives him a big speech. That's the pilot. That's probably one of the most famous scenes.

scenes of the Cosby show and that's the pipe which is insane but now he says I brought you into this world and I'll take you out yeah I mean that's his he's basically doing his act yeah uh so he's doing which is funny is that because that's what you end up doing a lot you end up doing a lot of your stand-up in just on a kitchen table he's doing like the pushing the baby out and he's a doctor and he's at uh he's at the hospital doing just his stand-up act

But it was that the pilot is, you know, I mean, some of them are bad, but that one is unbelievable. How good is Modern Family's got a really good pilot too. And then, but now a lot of shows, I mean, you gotta be good out the gate, but they're making the whole series.

So I'm sure that helps maybe in a way because you're writing eight scripts. Yeah. Or ten scripts. So you kind of have an... I mean, as you write this, you're like, okay, we kind of got this. I mean, sure, stuff's going to change, but your difference of it being bad and good is not as drastic. Right. All right, who wants to go? You can go first since you're the level fan. Talking about favorite episodes? Favorite Seinfeld episodes. I think...

Well, the obvious ones, the contest, all the iconic ones. I'd say one that I really like the most is The Opposites. Yeah, okay. Is that the one where they all do the opposite of what their instincts are? Mm-hmm. Yeah. That and the Bizarro World episode. Yeah. It's one of my favorites. And then...

all the ones with Banya. He's like my favorite character on that show. He's only in a few episodes, right? I think he's in like four. He recurs a decent bit. Yeah. But, but I think when you look back, it's only like four or five episodes. That's all? I think so. He's in, um, yeah, that's funny. And he's a standup comic. You've worked with him. I did work with him. Yeah. Steve Heitner is his name. Really nice guy. Yeah. Hmm. Uh,

All right. What's the next? Sorry. We've been like two hours and 15 minutes. This is a long. Yeah. I just realized how long it was. I'll go quick. I said The Little Kicks is one of the best ones, in my opinion, because that's also Jerry bootlegging the movie. Ah, that's... You know what? I mean, that's... The bootleg movies. Yeah. I mean, that's unbelievable. That one... We just talked about it. That's one of mine. It's still in mind. Where he goes, the...

He goes, you're doing feature films, buddy. He's talking about bootleg. And he's like, this isn't... Yeah. Yeah, that one's an amazing one. That storyline, every storyline's good. What's the George storyline in that? He's the bad guy. He's the bad boy. Oh, he's the bad boy. Elaine does the dance. Yeah, Elaine's... And then Jerry and Kramer. That's a pretty unreal episode. Yeah. When did they start doing where there was multiple plots and then they all connected at the end? Wow.

Cause that became like the signature thing. Yeah. I just read, it was like season one was only like four or five episodes. It was like season two, maybe the third episode in. Yeah. Okay. And then I got the puffy shirt and the slicer. Yeah. And so the puffy shirt, I just love that one because that's when George is moving back in to with his parents and he's complaining to Jerry and like they're,

Going back and forth on whose parents are worse. And George is like, my father wears sneakers in the pool. And then he's like, my mother's never smirked, never teehee, not a laugh. And he's like, a giggle? He's like, maybe. Yeah.

And then the slicer's great because Kramer's slicing all those meats and he's like, I haven't had a good sandwich in 13 years and throws around Jerry's sandwich. He's like, me either. And the slicer's your third episode? Yeah. Yeah, the slicer one's a pretty unbelievable episode. It's better than you think. Yeah. Because all of the storylines are the Kramer buys the slicer. Yeah. Elaine has the slicer, breaks the slicer. They got to feed that cat next door. Yeah.

and then they go, uh, they do the, and George takes the picture out. Yeah. That's the first, that's the first Kruger. Yes. Kruger is my favorite character. Kruger is phenomenal. As far as like not a part of the main, Kruger is unreal. So that's the first Kruger. Yeah. Cause look at this picture right here, George. Yeah. Uh, he goes that same thing. They take that. I mean, uh, when Kramer goes in there and yeah, it's unbelievable. And he goes, well, I can go either way on you, George, but,

we need somebody so yeah you know whatever pimple yeah pimple popper md yeah yeah we've talked about we've like which character we most identify with and i don't know if you guys like but for you it's a lot jerry because getting annoyed with little things that other people don't notice there's a lot of kramer though because he's always got some new like i'll be like

I'm going to try to do this. He's like, Oh no, you don't need to do this diet. You need to do, he's got some crazy diet or some, some new product that you got to try. So there's a lot of, you're a mix between Jerry and Kramer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're Newman. Yeah.

I mean, there's some there. Yeah. Another of my favorite, one of my favorite lines is the show. Well, what's your episodes? Cause it might be one of your episodes. All right. I got, uh, I want to mention some honorable mentions here. Yeah. Uh, the boyfriend that's Keith Hernandez. Yeah. The Hamptons, uh, puffy shirt, kiss. Hello.

The Marble Rye. Yeah. The Jimmy. The Chicken Roaster. I've watched Marble Rye. Chicken Roaster. Yeah. The Marble Rye was underrated. I watched it last night because I wanted to kind of see about it. Those are my favorites. So I got the Soup Nazi because I feel like all the storylines are very funny with armoire and all that. The Little Kicks, which we've already talked about, and the Pool Guy. Yeah. Because that's movie phone. Yeah. Yeah.

And that's Ramone, the pool guy that hangs out with Jerry. And that's The World's Colliding with George and Susan. It's so great. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm almost picking from those would be, I mean, Little Kicks is unreal. Soup Nazi. You love Andrea Doria. Andrea Doria is my favorite. Yeah, Andrea Doria is my favorite. That's when the George... Wait, what's the... Jerry... Because Jerry's...

What's Jerry's storyline? He's delivering mail for Newman. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then Elaine. Elaine is told her date won't be making it because he's been stabbed. Yes. That's great. Oh, and Kramer's cop. Andrea Doria. How's that not on your... Andrea Doria. I have it as my fourth right here, but I thought we were doing... I didn't give it the honorable mention. You don't think it's...

I mean, I think it's great, but I think all those I mentioned are great too. Andrew Doria, dude, the storyline. I mean, you don't want the, he's getting a, going to the vet Kramer to get dogs. He goes, I'd rather, I'd take a vet over an MD any day. He's slowly turning into a dog. He goes, he's got a, he's got a cure, a chicken, a frog, a dog all in the same day. Smuckers. Smuck. And then that, oh, he's got that cough. Find the dog with that cough. And then the, the,

tales of stanza oh yeah i mean when he goes and does all that he's just banging on the wall he's like he goes oh sorry go ahead and he sits down he's like come on he's an old man ahoy matey oh dude he walks down that aisle and he's going in ahoy matey he just says that to the guy that uh and then in the beginning when she's like he was an andrea doria survivor and he goes oh it's quite some fire shipwreck i remember i remember yeah yeah i remember

Yeah. I mean, I would say Andrea Doria. I mean, I could be talked into a few, uh, little kicks. That's an unreal episode. Soup Nazi would be in there. Yeah. I just watched that one. That's, I mean, such a legendary episode. Uh, it's funny. I'd never picked the contest. Contest is everybody's favorite episode, but I think they like it for what they're talking about and not using the words.

I don't... Like, it's never... That, to me, is like you're picking it for that reason instead of, like, really breaking down why you liked the episode. Good pick, Aaron. Yeah.

No, I think it's a great episode. I mean, it is iconic for that reason. It's for that reason. I know. I like it. I'm not saying you. I actually kind of forgot what you picked, to be honest. That's all right. So I wasn't really saying that's you. I'm saying in general, the contest is always ranked as the number one episode for everybody. And, I mean, what's the whole storyline of the contest? Is it John F. Kennedy Jr. Yeah. And Jerry's taking a virgin. Yeah.

And George goes to his mom in the hospital. There's a girl across the street. Yeah. There's a girl across the street. And the window. Yeah, it's very sexualized. I just think they choose it. It is extremely... It's a...

I'm not saying take anything away from it, but I always think that there's better episodes as a whole than that. The other one I would say Marine Biologist. That's one. Here's the thing. That's one that everybody always says is it's always ranked as the top above Andrea Doria. The whole series is not that the show is. It's not one of their strongest episodes.

This storyline with Jerry, the t-shirt and all that is like, who cares? The Marine Bot George's storyline is unbelievable in that one. But the rest of it's not that good. But George's is unbelievable. The scene at the end in the diner where he's... Unbelievable. It's one of the best scenes.

in the show. The scene was angry that day, my friend. It's one of the best scenes in the show. I'm completely, the whole George, him lying about, I don't know, why couldn't you say I was being an architect? He's like, I don't know where I'm at. Galapagos Islands? Sea turtles? What's the whale line?

It's a fish mammal. It's a mammal. Yeah. What is it? The, the, as George said, the, uh, they had the blue wells, the largest animal in the sea, largest mammal in the sea. But as George always says, it doesn't have to be like, they have too much blubber. I studied blubber. You got more blubber, but yeah, that whole, that whole run is unbelievable. And, uh,

But I don't think that whole episode's that good. And I think people, I think they think about that, the scene was angry. And so then that immediately is like, well, that's number one. But if you really look at it,

Then that's where I think Andrea Doria is pretty flawless in the fact that everybody is, every storyline is like, that's what you got to go do. You got to really go through it and look at every storyline. I think the money is really good too, because I think it contains maybe the best scene in Seinfeld.

Or maybe not the best, but it has one of the better lines in Seinfeld when George is like him and Jared debating whose parents have more money. And he's like, you know, he goes to his parents' house and starts asking about like basically his family. And he's like, how old was Aunt Baby when she died? Can you tell me a little bit about Aunt Baby? And Frank just looks at the ceiling and goes, she's deceased. They keep talking. He's like, how old would Aunt Baby been today, Frank?

she would have never made it. Yeah. And just like unbelievable line. She never really neglects whether like the question, just the fact that how would she be? She never would have made it. I mean, yeah. Festivus. No, the Festivus might actually be up there for me. It's gotta be good. It Festivus, you know, there's been some doll. Oh, she was. Yeah. I mean, when Kramer takes that job,

He puts his coat in the case that... The bagels go in. Yeah, the bagels, like it's the showcase, right? When they walk in and he just jams his coat. A very underrated little thing that I don't think people really see because it's very quick, but it's ridiculous that he put it there. H&H bagels. Yeah.

We might have to do a whole entire Seinfeld episode one time. We're such big fans of it, we can really break it down. There's a podcast called Seincast. I don't know anything. I just saw it on something. Never listened to it, but they break down every episode if you're a diehard Seinfeld fan. And maybe it's good, maybe it's not. Go let us know. I've never watched it.

I listened to it. All right. Was there anything else that we missed? No. You asked me to look up the most watched TV events in world history. Yes. Number one, the 1996 Olympics opening ceremonies where Muhammad Ali lit the torch. 3.6 billion people watched it worldwide. A lot of them were Olympics or World Cups and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. So the most ever is that. Yeah. 3.6 billion. That's nuts. Yeah. Yeah.

And then YouTube stuff, like YouTube has billions. Oh yeah, YouTube. Well, the one thing that we looked up was the thing you mentioned either, that LOL tournament. Yeah. Yeah, League of Legends. Yeah, it had over, well, I mean, we've talked about that before in the sports episode. It had more viewers. It had 100 million viewers in 2019. The Super Bowl had 98 million viewers. It was the most watched. There's a video, music video. Yeah.

I already forgot what... Charlie Puth, I Will See You Again? No, Despacito? I don't even know how to say it. Despacito. Is that right? It's got 7 billion views. It's the most viewed on YouTube. 7 billion. 7 billion. How many people are on Earth? 7 billion. Almost 8, I think. Yeah. Really? I thought it was more than that. Huh? I thought it was more than that. I think it's 7 point something billion. Yeah, that's crazy, dude. All right, this one was, I mean, way by far the longest. Yeah.

I mean, I don't even know. Two and a half hours? I don't know. Is it something? Is it two and a half? 224. Ugh. Too long. That's way too long. 224. Well, I hope you have a long day at work, and this will be right up your alley. Everybody, please watch John Augustine, U.S. Open Masters. Follow him. Unbelievable golfer. Great guy. We're all going to root for him hard. Yep.

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