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Alan Cumming on “The Traitors” and His Brush with Reality Television

2025/3/4
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Alan Cumming: 我在《叛徒》中扮演的角色,是一个融合了苏格兰贵族的优雅、詹姆斯·邦德反派的邪魅以及古怪老派绅士的综合体。我努力保持角色的距离感,不与参赛者过多互动,这在拍摄过程中越来越难,因为他们会在节目外看到我,而我会在事后说出一些话。我试图让他们有点害怕我,因为我必须经常大声呵斥他们保持安静,有时节目会失控,甚至差点需要我介入一场争斗。在参与《叛徒》之前,我对真人秀节目持保留态度,认为很多节目会赞扬并因此助长不良行为和缺乏善意。然而,《叛徒》的不同之处在于它更注重游戏策略,而不是单纯的恶意行为。这个节目对我来说是一个意想不到的职业转折,我非常享受这个过程,它也为我带来了很多其他机遇。 我参与了BBC的家族史节目《Who Do You Think You Are?》,这让我了解到一些家族秘密,包括我祖父死于玩俄罗斯轮盘赌,以及我父亲在节目拍摄前一天告诉我我不是他的亲生儿子。尽管这些真相令人痛苦,但我认为知道真相总比蒙在鼓里要好。这段经历也让我对很多事情有了新的理解,并成为了我回忆录的主题。 成名对我来说是一个复杂的过程,它发生得很快,而且我当时很年轻。成名意味着人们开始对我的私生活感兴趣,甚至超过对我的作品的关注,这让我感到不适应。我曾经因为隐瞒一些事情而感到后悔,因为这只会让大家更加好奇。我认为真实和开放是生活中最重要的品质。 Emily Nussbaum: 艾伦·卡明是一位多才多艺的演员,他活跃于主流电视剧和独立电影,在音乐剧方面也成就斐然。他拥有夜总会,出版了畅销回忆录,现在还主持着艾美奖获奖的真人秀节目《叛徒》。

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Emily Nussbaum introduces Alan Cumming at the New Yorker Festival, highlighting his versatile career across various entertainment mediums.
  • Emily Nussbaum describes Alan Cumming as a 'disco ball' reflecting every angle of show business.
  • Cumming's career spans mainstream dramas, indie projects, and legendary musical performances.
  • He is beloved in both Scotland and New York.

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When Emily Nussbaum) introduced Alan Cumming at the New Yorker Festival, she said, “Plenty of actors light up a room, but Alan Cumming is more of a disco ball—reflecting every possible angle of show business.” Cumming appears in mainstream dramas such as “The Good Wife,” and also more indie projects like his one-man version of “Macbeth”; his performances in musicals such as “Cabaret” are legendary. He also owns a nightclub; his memoir “Not My Father’s Son” was a bestseller, and so on. And Cumming plays the host on the Emmy-winning reality show “The Traitors.” He combines “a dandy Scottish laird—sort of James Bond villain, sort of eccentric, old-fashioned nut who has this big castle.” Spoiler alert: “It’s supposed to be my castle. It’s not.” Nussbaum asks about his perspective on reality TV before he started on “Traitors.” “Zero, really,” Cumming confesses. “I was a bit judgy. … The thing I don't like about a lot of those shows is that they laud and therefore encourage bad behavior and lack of kindness.” Before “The Traitors,” Cumming’s first brush with reality television was on “Who Do You Think You Are?,” a BBC genealogy program that confronted him with shocking secrets about his own family. “It made a good memoir, I suppose,” he jokes. “Just how awful that was. It was awful. But no, I don't regret it.”