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Charlamagne tha God Has Some Advice for Kamala Harris and the Democrats

2024/10/25
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David Remnick:就总统竞选的最后几天而言,副总统哈里斯一直在尽可能多地接触选民。鉴于民调显示黑人男性对她的支持摇摆不定,她绝对必须与之交谈的一位人士是莱纳德·麦凯尔维,他更为人所知的名字是夏洛特·上帝。作为联合主持的联合广播的“早餐俱乐部”早间广播节目的主持人,夏洛特采访过哈里斯、希拉里·克林顿和乔·拜登等总统候选人,以及纽约市饱受争议的市长埃里克·亚当斯等等。他告诉戴维·雷姆尼克,仅仅因为与哈里斯交谈,他就收到了死亡威胁——“合法的威胁,而不是……有人在社交媒体上胡言乱语。那只是我和她关于我们社会现状的谈话。所以想象一下,她实际上得到了什么。”夏洛特坚信,哈里斯失去黑人支持的论调被夸大了,或者说是一个民调虚构,但他同意民主党存在信息传递问题。作为一本名为《说实话或死于谎言》一书的作者,夏洛特说,该党回避了对移民和经济的广泛担忧,这对其造成了损害。“我只是想看到民主党人更加诚实。就像我总是说的那样,共和党人对他们的谎言比民主党人对他们的真相更真诚!” Charlamagne tha God: 我认为民调夸大了黑人男性对哈里斯支持率低的问题。竞选总统需要接触尽可能多的民众,尤其是在很多人不了解哈里斯的情况下。在当今时代,政治家需要通过多种渠道接触选民,例如广播、播客、YouTube和社交媒体。我与哈里斯建立了良好的关系,这有助于我们进行坦诚的对话。我的听众最关心的问题是如何获得更多收入和保障安全。我认为,将美国民众对边境问题的担忧解读为“支持MAGA”是不公平的。我支持哈里斯是因为哈里斯的经济计划、对心理健康和孕产妇健康的关注以及她对民众的关心。我认为特朗普只关心自己,不关心美国人民。我认为,特朗普的支持率一部分原因是种族主义和性别歧视,以及民主党在经济问题上的叙事被共和党劫持。承认美国存在系统性种族主义是合理的。应该直接指出特朗普是法西斯主义者。媒体没有充分展现特朗普对民主的威胁。媒体对特朗普的报道不够严厉,没有充分展现其危险性。美国人对独裁的可能性缺乏认识,导致他们无法理解特朗普的威胁。我认为奥巴马的政治语言比哈里斯更现实。政治语言已经死亡,政治家应该用更真实的语言与选民沟通。民主党在信息传递方面存在问题,但新一代的民主党人正在改变这种状况。我认为明尼苏达州州长蒂姆·沃尔兹的政治形象并不适合当前的政治环境。我认为乔希·夏皮罗会是一个更好的副总统人选。我认为,无论谁当总统,美国对以色列的支持都不会改变。我认为人们对乔·罗根的误解源于只看片段而不了解他的整体观点。我欣赏罗根的诚实、客观和好奇心。我怀疑塔克·卡尔森与俄罗斯合作。我认为哈里斯应该与各种平台沟通,包括那些她可能不同意的平台。我的目标是服务他人,特别是关注黑人男性的心理健康。我认为黑人男性在表达情感方面存在障碍,这与他们的生存策略有关。金钱无法解决心理健康问题。我分享了自己童年遭受性侵犯的经历,以及这段经历如何影响了我的性格。我将自己取得的成就归功于上帝和身边优秀的成年人。我的父母都重视教育,这对我产生了积极的影响。早期的说唱音乐,特别是那些传递社会信息的音乐,对我影响很大。我的目标是服务他人。我考虑过进入政界,以了解政治变革的难度。我钦佩哈里斯的成就,并理解她面临的挑战。我因为采访哈里斯而收到了死亡威胁。我认为,政治人物要么热爱国家,要么是自恋狂。

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Why does Charlamagne tha God believe the narrative of Kamala Harris losing Black support is overstated?

He thinks it's a polling fiction or overstated.

What does Charlamagne tha God suggest is the Democrats' main problem?

Messaging, particularly on issues like immigration and the economy.

Why does Charlamagne tha God want to see more honesty from Democrats?

He believes Republicans are more sincere about their lies than Democrats are about their truth.

What does Charlamagne tha God admire about Joe Rogan?

His honesty, objectivity, and curiosity.

Why does Charlamagne tha God think Tucker Carlson might be working with the Russians?

He feels there's something disingenuous about Carlson.

What does Charlamagne tha God want to achieve in his career?

To be of service, especially in promoting mental health awareness.

Why does Charlamagne tha God think black men might be perceived as less vulnerable?

It's a survival tactic due to their role as protectors and providers.

What does Charlamagne tha God admire about Kamala Harris?

Her accomplishments and resilience as a woman of color in politics.

Why does Charlamagne tha God receive death threats?

For having a conversation with Kamala Harris about societal issues.

Chapters
David Remnick discusses Kamala Harris's media strategy with Charlamagne tha God, focusing on her outreach to various media platforms to connect with voters, particularly male listeners.
  • Harris is reaching out to platforms like Howard Stern and Joe Rogan's podcast to connect with male voters.
  • Charlamagne suggests that Harris should speak to everyone to build a broader connection with the public.

Shownotes Transcript

In these final days of the Presidential campaign, Vice-President Kamala Harris has been getting in front of voters as much as she can. Given the polls showing shaky support among Black men, one man she absolutely had to talk to was Lenard McKelvey, much better known as Charlamagne tha God.  As a co-host of the syndicated “Breakfast Club” morning radio show, Charlamagne has interviewed Presidential candidates such as Harris, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden, as well as New York City’s embattled Mayor Eric Adams and many more. He tells David Remnick that he received death threats just for speaking with Harris—“legitimate threats, not … somebody talking crazy on social media. That’s just me having a conversation with her about the state of our society.  So imagine what she actually gets.”  Charlamagne believes firmly that the narrative of Harris losing Black support is overstated, or a polling fiction, but he agrees that the Democrats have a messaging problem. The author of a book titled “Get Honest or Die Lying),” Charlamagne says that the Party has shied away from widespread concerns about immigration and the economy, to its detriment.  “I just want to see more honesty from Democrats. Like I always say, Republicans are more sincere about their lies than Democrats are about their truth!”