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Emerald Fennell’s Anatomy of Desire

2023/11/14
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Emerald Fennell: 本片是对英国阶级制度及其荒谬性的辛辣讽刺,更是对人们追逐财富和美貌的渴望,以及这种渴望背后复杂情感的探索。影片中,豪宅被拍摄成性对象,象征着影片的情色基调和对欲望的隐喻。导演深入探讨了人们与自身欲望的关系,以及这种渴望与厌恶并存的矛盾心理。她认为,无论是对财富和美的渴望,还是对阶级制度的批判,都反映了人们普遍存在的焦虑和矛盾。 Emerald Fennell: 影片并非仅仅关注上流社会,而是将视角扩展到那些渴望融入上流社会的人们。导演认为,人们对财富和美的渴望,以及对自身在社会中的地位的焦虑,是普遍存在的现象,而并非仅仅局限于特定的阶级。她巧妙地将个人经历与社会观察相结合,展现了对阶级制度的深刻理解和批判。 Emerald Fennell: 作为一名女性电影制作人,她认为自己常常被期望创作自传性质的作品,这让她感到困扰。她希望观众能够独立思考,不受个人背景的影响。她坦言,在创作过程中,她更倾向于独立思考,而不是与他人进行大量的头脑风暴。她认为,只有在独立思考的过程中,才能真正挖掘出那些令人不安、有趣、性感和困难的主题。 Michael Schulman: 访谈围绕着Emerald Fennell的两部电影《Saltburn》和《Promising Young Woman》展开,探讨了电影的主题、创作理念以及导演的个人经历。访谈中,Schulman与Fennell就电影的结局、对阶级制度的讽刺、以及女性电影制作人的身份认同等问题进行了深入的探讨。

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Emerald Fennell discusses her film 'Saltburn,' a dark satire of aristocracy and desire, exploring themes of class, beauty, and wealth.

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For the follow-up to her acclaimed and controversial début feature film, “Promising Young Woman,” the writer and director Emerald Fennell (also well known as an actor on “The Crown”) has made a dark satire of not just aristocracy but our collective preoccupation with it.  “Saltburn” follows a college student who joins a wealthy classmate at his family’s mysterious old country estate, which the director shot as “a sex object.” Fennell is very familiar with this world—albeit from a distance. Her father was a jeweller who sold work to Elton John and Madonna, and Fennell went to the same boarding school as Kate Middleton. “As a female filmmaker, more than any other kind, you’re expected to be a memoirist. People are more comfortable with that,” she tells* The New Yorker*’s Michael Schulman. Her previous film, “Promising Young Woman,” about a woman’s attempt to hold a rapist accountable, had an extremely dark ending that infuriated many viewers, but that Fennell found to be more honest. “I don’t think of myself as a liar at all. I hope I’m very honest—but that’s what a liar would say.”