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Returning to a Home Consumed by the Wildfires

2025/1/28
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Dana Goodyear:我作为《纽约客》杂志的记者,报道了2018年的伍尔西大火以及最近的加州野火。这次野火烧毁了我的家,我亲身经历了这场灾难。起初,我既要以记者身份报道火灾救援工作,也要了解我家被烧毁的情况。当我回到家时,我发现房子几乎被完全烧毁,只剩下房屋轮廓。火灾烧毁了我们所有的财物,只留下一些建筑残骸。然而,在被烧毁的办公室里,我找到了我的防火保险箱,里面保存着一些重要的物品,包括我订婚戒指上的宝石。这让我感到一丝安慰和希望,也让我意识到这次灾难增强了我们家庭的凝聚力,这象征着我们家庭的团结和韧性,即使我们失去了物质上的东西,但我们仍然在一起。 David Remnick:我介绍了Dana Goodyear及其报道加州野火的经历,包括她家被烧毁的事件。她的经历突显了加州野火对居民生活造成的巨大影响,以及灾后重建的艰难。

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Dana Goodyear, a New Yorker staff writer, recounts her experience returning to her home in Pacific Palisades after it was destroyed in a wildfire. She describes the eerie silence and devastation, contrasting the destruction of her house with the surprisingly intact garage. The emotional impact of the loss is palpable, highlighting the fragility of possessions and the resilience of the family.
  • Return to fire-ravaged Pacific Palisades home
  • Description of the devastation
  • Intact garage amidst the destruction
  • Emotional impact of loss

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This is the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. Staff writer Dana Goodyear has reported on California, the entertainment industry, a deadly crime spree in Malibu, Kamala Harris's rise in politics, and the ever more fragile environment in the state. Dana has lived for a long time in Los Angeles, in the neighborhood of the Pacific Palisades. And recently, she and her family found their lives very much at the center of the story. About a week after the house burned down,

I drove up Pacific Coast Highway and I stopped at a command post basically right underneath my neighborhood at the beach. If you drive up about 1,200 feet, you're in the Palisades. I knew that I wanted to go back up there and they weren't letting residents in. They had no problem with me going in as a journalist. ♪

So you have a press pass and you're trying to get up there? I guess my question to you is what's your ultimate goal today? I have combined goals. So I write for the New Yorker magazine. It's long-form nonfiction journalism. And I need to be seeing things that all the heroic emergency operations people are doing. And I also need to figure out what in the hell is going on at my house because we haven't been able to see it. And I know it's gone, but...

More than that. Yeah, I'm sorry for that. Well, I mean, the thing that's so weird for me is that I've reported on so many fires, and I just can't believe that... It happened to you. I can't believe it. The beautiful Palisades. It's just unreal. I'm driving up Chautauqua, and I have an absolute pit in my stomach. I know I'm about to see the neighborhood, but this is the road that I drove up in.

every day. And I'm glad a lot of these houses are standing on Chautauqua so the fire didn't rip down through this little street so much. But I'm just so scared because I'm about to actually finally see it. I've been imagining it for a week. And when I was here with Brad, it was like fire everywhere, smoke in the air, emergency vehicles. Just now it's

Pretty much dead calm. Dead calm, no cars, no fire trucks. It's like a lot of broken lives. Okay, here we go. Here we go. There is literally no one anywhere in this neighborhood. It's so strange. It's so quiet. The wind is blowing lightly. The doves are back on the wires behind the house.

I'm looking into this pit of plaster and rebar and kind of understanding how my house was made. There's the fireplace that I really loved in our family room with the kind of, I forgot the name of that shape, but it's, I think it's maybe a Kiva shape, the sort of, um,

almond shape, half an almond shape opening in the fireplace and the tiles on one side are still there. Um, then there's sort of a tangled mass and there are all of our roof tiles scattered everywhere. Um, pizza oven. There's like shampoo bottles that are completely intact that were by the outdoor shower. Um, the garage, it looks like, uh,

Monday afternoon in my garage. The pillows are on the couch. My daughter's jar of homemade slime is sitting there intact on the counter. All my books are in the shelves. Everything looks completely fine. And then the house just is an idea of a house or the aftermath of the house, I guess. You can walk through the arched

door at the front and the back, but there's just pretty much nothing in between. I wish I knew how it caught and why, and if there's anything we could have done to change this outcome. And why is our garage still standing? I wish I knew how to know what its narrative was at this particular house, like where the ember went in, what caught, what's that spark

all over the back wall of the house. The part that's still standing is just, looks like someone took a paintbrush with black paint and flicked it, flung it all over the house. Did something explode there? What's so weird is just, we had so much stuff. We had so many possessions, so many stupid possessions and so many really,

special possessions. And you can't see any of that here. It's almost like what it all comes down to is nails, plaster and nails. Our world was really little tiny pieces of metal holding it together. Dana Goodyear in Pacific Palisades in Los Angeles. More in a moment.

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And that's got to be beyond difficult. You told me you went back to the house again a few days later. So what did you find there? Yeah, so I went back and I was just wandering around when some law enforcement emergency personnel saw me and everyone was really super friendly. You know, do you need water? Do you need a snack? Are you okay? And I said, yeah, I'm just, you know, they said, we'll come walk to your house with you. And so I went, finished the walk, got to my house and I said,

The thing that I've been really wondering about is this fireproof safe.

It was a 400-pound safe that I had just installed in October. And feeling very pleased with myself, I got all of my important documents out of storage in downtown LA and put them in the fireproof safe, along with a small box of jewelry. And when I went back, I think my eyes had adjusted to the new

layout of my home, you might say. And I had figured out where my office was because it was in a closet in my office. And I saw this kind of listing four file high, totally black, it used to be beige, piece of metal. And I was like, that's got to be it.

And this incredibly helpful person with steel-toed boots said, you know what? I'm going to go in there and see if I can get it for you. I was like, are you serious? Because I thought I was going to have to wait until FEMA cleared the site. Was it in the top drawer, you think? I don't think so. I think it was in the second, third, or fourth. And then he goes, wait a minute. Here's a little metal box. Little box. Okay. Okay.

And I was thinking, oh my God, my mom had given my daughter her school ring. We started sifting through the dust using the piece of metal that had held the top of one of the files, you know, those little hanging files thing, using that.

and found the stone from my engagement ring. That's my ring. That's my wedding ring. It looks like the diamonds melted out or something. Oh, my God. The feeling of being able to have a happy story to tell, not just my kids who are so anxious about what it all means, but

But also all the people who want our lives to be okay. Like it really has meant so much to them that I found this thing. It feels like, okay, this family is going to be okay. Even though, you know, it's just a symbol. But I'm super happy to have this stone. It just feels like crises, they either strengthen you as a family or break you down. And...

I feel like this strengthens us and the stone is kind of a symbol of that, of unity. Well, Dana, all I can say is I send my love to you, love from Esther and to Billy and to the whole family. Thank you. I appreciate it. Dana Goodyear is covering this year's wildfires in Los Angeles for The New Yorker. I'm David Remnick. That's The New Yorker Radio Hour for this week, and thanks for listening. See you next time.

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