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What Biden Is Thinking About the 2024 Election

2024/3/2
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Joe Biden (转述): 竞选2020年总统大选的主要动机是反对特朗普及其对美国政府的破坏。他认为自己有权竞选连任,并对特朗普怀有强烈的个人厌恶,认为特朗普试图窃取选举。拜登的竞选策略的核心仍然是反对特朗普,并恢复理性。他认为媒体对特朗普的威胁报道不足,不够重视。拜登及其团队对竞选结果表现出一种过分的平静,这令民主党人担忧。他试图强调自己与劳工运动的联系,并呼吁选民耐心等待其外交努力的结果,以应对加沙战争引发的批评。 Evan Osnos: 拜登对特朗普怀有强烈的个人厌恶,认为特朗普试图窃取选举。拜登从未考虑过只做一届总统,他认为自己有权竞选连任。拜登的竞选信息的核心仍然是反对特朗普,并恢复理性。拜登认为媒体对特朗普的威胁报道不足,不够重视。拜登及其团队对竞选结果表现出一种过分的平静,这令民主党人担忧。在加沙战争问题上,一些阿拉伯裔美国选民对拜登感到愤怒,甚至考虑弃权或投反对票。历史上,第三方候选人往往会损害现任总统的选情。2024年美国大选的结果难以预测,多种因素都可能产生决定性影响。特朗普的竞选动机是报复和避免入狱。特朗普的支持者已经形成了一个与传统政治几乎无关的运动。拜登认为特朗普的支持者数量可能被高估了。拜登的第二任期目标之一是将堕胎权写入法律。拜登认为特朗普可能会再次质疑选举结果,并可能导致暴力事件,甚至在选举前就可能发生街头暴力。民主党需要向选民传达信息,强调本次选举的重要性。 David Remnick: 引导访谈,提出问题,并对Evan Osnos的分析进行回应和补充。

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Despite hand-wringing among Democrats about Joe Biden’s age and his discouraging poll numbers, the President’s campaign for reëlection displays an “ostentatious level of serenity,” Evan Osnos) says about the election. “This is a matter of great personal importance to Joe Biden. He feels almost, viscerally, this contempt for Trump and for what Trump did to the country,” Osnos tells David Remnick, after a rare private interview at the White House. “And let’s remember, he didn’t just try to steal this election—from Biden’s perspective—he tried to steal it from him.” Although Biden once referred to himself as a “bridge” President, he told Osnos that he had never considered stepping aside after one term. His gait has  slowed, but Osnos found the President quick to jab at his questions and at “you guys” in the media, whom he blames for naysaying his campaign. But alongside complacent media coverage, threats to the President’s reëlection are many. The war in Gaza has alienated many voters from Biden, especially in Arab American communities, and it resonates even more widely. “When Houthi rebels started firing rockets at ships in the Red Sea,” Osnos points out, “it had an immediate effect on global shipping, to the point that it could have, and could yet still, push inflation back up. . . . I know this is the worst cliché in journalism, but this election has an element that is beyond anything we’ve ever really dealt with before.”