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Truth and Distortion | 7

2024/6/24
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The Rise and Fall of Ruby Franke

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Alice Dows
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Brian
Python 开发者和播客主持人,专注于测试和软件开发教育。
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Dr. Kirk Honda
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Jodi Hildebrandt
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Kate Morton
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Kevin Franke
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Ruby Franke
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Sherry Bottin
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Youtube用户MkFourSizes
法官John Walton
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Kate Morton认为Ruby的悔过是伪装的,并没有真正为自己的行为负责。她强调了社会对虐待的误解以及对受害者的持续伤害。 Ruby Franke承认自己对世界观认知扭曲,相信黑暗是光明,错误是正确,并为自己的选择承担全部责任。她表达了对受害者的悔恨,并感谢那些帮助过她的人。 法官John Walton认为Ruby和Jodi的行为恐怖化了孩子们,造成了悲剧性的后果,判处她们入狱,强调了她们行为的严重性和缺乏常识。 Sherry Bottin认为如果社会真正理解虐待,Ruby在分享视频后就会有人介入阻止,就不会发展到这一步。她还指出,孩子们通常不愿意举报父母的虐待行为,儿童保护服务机构可能没有花足够的时间在家庭中来发现虐待行为。 Eric Clark详细描述了Ruby和Jodi对孩子的虐待行为,强调了其严重性和对孩子造成的长期影响。 Kevin Franke谴责Jodi Hildebrandt作为一名未经许可的“生活教练”,对他的家庭造成了毁灭性的影响,并呼吁加强对生活教练的监管。他强调了Jodi的行为对他的孩子造成的伤害,以及他为家庭的未来所做的努力。 Jennifer Yam解释了Utah Board of Pardons and Parole的流程,以及Ruby和Jodi的最终刑期将在2024年9月听证会后决定。她强调了所有案件都应以相同的方式处理,无论是否受到媒体关注。 Jeremy Dies对Ruby和Jodi的悔过程度进行了对比,认为Ruby表现出了真挚的悔恨,而Jodi需要付出更多努力来承担责任。 Jodi Hildebrandt表示她真心爱这些孩子,希望他们身心健康,并愿意服从法院的判决。 Dr. Kirk Honda分析了Ruby可能因为对传统育儿方式的抵制和对Jodi的信任而被Jodi影响的可能性,并探讨了社会对育儿方式的不同观点以及Jodi利用这些观点来影响Ruby的可能性。 Isaiah分析了治疗师与客户之间权力动态的潜在风险,以及Jodi如何利用这种权力动态来操纵Ruby。 Alice Dows指出一些司法管辖区正在制定法律来保护在网上被利用的儿童,并强调了保护儿童隐私的重要性。 Youtube用户MkFourSizes指出互联网上对儿童的剥削难以控制,并呼吁对儿童内容的货币化进行更严格的监管。

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The chapter details the sentencing hearing of Ruby and Jodi, focusing on the state's recommendations and the chilling acts of abuse committed against the children.
  • Ruby and Jodi were sentenced for aggravated child abuse.
  • The state detailed the horrific acts of abuse the children suffered.
  • The children's courage to run away likely saved their lives.

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Nearly 6 months after Ruby and Jodi were arrested and charged with four counts of aggravated child abuse, the two finally face sentencing. We learn how much time each woman could spend in prison, hear from mental health professionals about how the Franke children can heal, and explore ethical questions surrounding family vlogging.

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A note from our Executive Producer: This episode was intended to be the final episode of The Rise and Fall of Ruby Franke. However, in the early morning hours of Friday, March 22nd, 2024, as we were putting the final touches on this episode, the Washington County Attorney’s Office in Utah released police reports, body cam footage, investigative photos, and interviews as well as portions of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt’s recorded phone calls made from the Washington County Correctional Facility. The Law&Crime team is carefully reviewing all the materials and we’ll be back with a deep-dive bonus episode on April 8th exclusively on Wondery+. We thank you for your patience.

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