S1E5: The Grim Barbarity Of Optics and Design (with Jen Tullock)
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Ben and Adam are joined for a recap of Season 1 Episode 5 by the inimitable Jen Tullock, aka Mark's sister "Devon." They consider Devon and Ricken's unlikely courtship, the concept of "birthing retreats," and some far-out fan theories from Reddit about the mysterious baby goats.

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