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The Vergecast Matter Holiday Spec-Tacular

2024/12/20
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Jennifer Pattison Tuohy:Matter 是一种旨在简化、提高可靠性和安全性,并增强智能家居设备互操作性的开源标准。它由 200 多家公司共同开发,旨在让不同品牌的智能设备能够在同一平台上协同工作。然而,Matter 的实际应用情况并不理想,2024 年新产品的推出数量减少,生态系统对新设备类型的支持滞后,多管理员功能的开发进展缓慢,这些都影响了 Matter 的互操作性和易用性。虽然 Matter 的基础设施已经搭建完成,但各个平台的支持和互操作性有待提高,这需要各个生态系统厂商共同努力。 Neelai Patel:Matter 的实际应用情况并不理想,许多智能设备仍然使用不同的应用程序,并且 Matter 的标准化过程也比较缓慢。智能家居设备的互操作性问题依然存在,用户仍然需要了解过多的技术细节,例如边界路由器等。Matter 的成功依赖于其易用性和广泛的应用,但目前来看,它并没有完全达到这个目标。 Paulus Schoutsen:作为 Open Home Foundation 的总裁,Paulus Schoutsen 认为 Matter 协议本身在技术上是成熟的,但其一些附加功能增加了设备的成本和复杂性,并且用户体验方面也存在一些问题。Thread 协议的初始设计存在缺陷,导致其在实际应用中出现多个网络互相干扰的问题,并且跨平台互操作性差。Home Assistant 作为开源的智能家居平台,将继续致力于提高易用性和功能性,并与 Matter 协议进行整合,以提供更好的用户体验。他认为 Matter 将在智能家居能源管理方面发挥重要作用,并最终促进本地服务器在智能家居中的应用。

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Key Insights

What is Matter, and how is it intended to work in the smart home?

Matter is an open-source standard for the smart home, created by over 200 companies including Apple, Google, Samsung, and Amazon. It is designed as a communication and interoperability protocol to allow smart home devices like microwaves, dishwashers, and smart lights to talk to each other locally and with smart home platforms like Apple Home, Google Home, and Home Assistant. The goal is to make the smart home simpler, more reliable, and more secure.

Why is Matter important for smart home interoperability?

Matter aims to eliminate the need for manufacturers to develop individual partnerships with platforms like Apple HomeKit or Amazon Alexa. If a device works with Matter, it should be compatible with all major smart home platforms, simplifying the setup and use of smart home devices across different ecosystems.

What are the current challenges with Matter in the smart home?

Matter is still in its early stages, with limited new products in categories like home energy management and appliances. Platform support for new device types has been slow and spotty, and interoperability between ecosystems like Apple Home and Google Home is not fully seamless. Additionally, some devices like smart plugs and Lutron light switches are not yet part of Matter, and Thread networking has caused issues with multiple networks in homes.

What are the long-term goals of Matter for the smart home?

Matter envisions a future where smart home devices can manage energy usage, integrate with solar panels, and control HVAC systems. The ultimate goal is to make the smart home more than just a collection of single-use cases, such as having lights turn on when you walk into a room, but to provide broader functionality like whole-home energy management.

How does Home Assistant fit into the Matter ecosystem?

Home Assistant is a local smart home platform that bridges devices that aren't yet compatible with Matter. While Matter helps by enabling local communication between devices and platforms, Home Assistant continues to provide advanced automation and integration for power users. Matter's local IP-based communication will eventually allow Home Assistant to control devices like vacuums and cameras that were previously cloud-dependent.

Why is Thread causing issues in the Matter ecosystem?

Thread, a low-power mesh networking protocol, was designed to simplify smart home setup by automatically creating a network with a name and key. However, it has led to multiple Thread networks in homes because each ecosystem (Apple, Google, etc.) has its own border router, and sharing network keys between them has been problematic. This has resulted in devices not connecting properly across different ecosystems.

What is the role of Matter in energy management in the home?

Matter could play a significant role in energy management by enabling devices like solar panels, home battery storage systems, and HVAC systems to communicate locally. This could lead to more efficient energy usage, such as charging electric vehicles when solar power is available, which is a growing use case in the smart home space.

What is the future of smart home platforms like Home Assistant in a Matter-enabled world?

Home Assistant will continue to exist as a powerful, local smart home platform for users who want advanced automation and control. While Matter simplifies the foundational layer of device communication, Home Assistant will remain relevant for its ability to integrate and automate devices that may not be fully standardized or commoditized by Matter.

What are the challenges with firmware updates in Matter devices?

Matter devices rely on firmware updates stored on a blockchain-like distributed ledger, which has led to issues with incorrect firmware being uploaded and breaking devices. The process of updating firmware is still murky, with some updates being handled by the platform (like Home Assistant) and others by the device manufacturer, leading to potential security and functionality problems.

How does Matter aim to simplify the smart home for mainstream consumers?

Matter aims to simplify the smart home by providing a single, interoperable standard that works across platforms like Apple Home, Google Home, and Home Assistant. This means consumers can buy a Matter-compatible device and use it with any platform without worrying about compatibility. However, full interoperability and seamless setup are still works in progress.

Shownotes Transcript

Happy holidays! Before we disappear into family time and catching up on our favorite shows, we have one more episode for you. And it's 90 minutes of deep nerdery about the smart home. Every year, we try to dig into one standard or spec that has impacted our lives this year, and we couldn't think of anything more potentially great and occasionally infuriating than Matter. Matter is supposed to be the protocol that makes the smart home work — so, uh, how's that going? The Verge's Jennifer Pattison Tuohy joins to discuss the state of the smart home, before we play a game to see how well we understand things. Then, Home Assistant creator Paulus Schoutsen tells us what it's like to try and make Matter work, and where we might be headed next year.

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