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We can’t quit electric cars — or robotaxis

2025/2/25
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Andy Hawkins
Transportation editor at The Verge, known for his in-depth analysis of the automotive industry and transportation policy.
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David Pierce
知名技术记者和播客主持人,专注于社会媒体、智能家居和人工智能等领域的分析和评论。
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Evan Prodromou
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David Pierce: 我认为电动汽车正在逐渐过时,而自动驾驶出租车却突然重新受到关注,这种转变让我感到困惑。 Andy Hawkins: 电动汽车的销量已经停滞,这在美国、欧洲和中国都是如此。汽车制造商自己也有责任,他们夸大了电动汽车的前景,导致价格与预期不符。此外,中国电动汽车的崛起对其他汽车制造商构成了威胁,他们不得不继续投资电动汽车以保持竞争力。 David Pierce: 鉴于电动汽车目前并不主流,汽车公司为什么不放弃呢? Andy Hawkins: 汽车公司仍然相信电动汽车是未来,但同时也担心中国的竞争。 David Pierce: 自动驾驶出租车领域似乎又迎来了一个新的时刻,这让人感觉回到了2016年。 Andy Hawkins: 主要汽车制造商已经减少了对自动驾驶汽车的投资,因为这项技术发展缓慢且成本高昂。Waymo在自动驾驶出租车技术方面遥遥领先,其他公司都对其感到恐惧。Uber和Lyft之所以再次涉足自动驾驶出租车领域,是因为它们现在盈利了,并且受到投资者的压力。 David Pierce: 特斯拉的销量首次出现同比下降,其品牌形象也发生了转变。 Andy Hawkins: 特斯拉的品牌形象已经从与加州自由派人士联系在一起转变为与特朗普支持者联系在一起,这对其品牌形象造成了损害。

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Robotaxis: in. EVs: Out? The Verge's Andy Hawkins joins the show to talk about the goings-on in the transportation industry, including the reasons car makers are slowing down on EV production (but not giving up entirely) and why suddenly everyone's back in on robotaxis. Then, The Social Web Foundation's Evan Prodromou tells us what's new with the fediverse. We talk about Bluesky, Threads, Mastodon, and the increasingly ambitious plans for the ActivityPub protocol. Finally, we talk through some feedback on last week's episode about the pricing of the iPhone 16E, and how the way you buy your phone changes the way you feel about its price.

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