Lakota and The Mysterious Death of Peter Bergmann - Theories Thursday
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Well, in this case, it's going to be a theories Friday. All of our episodes we've been releasing on Friday. Friday, the one time Saturday stuff came up. Yeah. I think we're going to move it to Friday releases. It seems to be better in our schedule, but we would like to know some feedback before we do that. So everyone let us know. Do you prefer Thursday releases? Do you prefer Friday releases? Or no releases at all. Just let's just fucking cut everything. End it. Yeah.

Yeah, we'll close shop on the podcast, shut it down. But before we do, we have to do this episode today, which is a Theories Thursday. And Dan is going to explain what a Theories Thursday is. All right. So a Theories Thursday is where Aaron and I, we both independently pick a topic, we research it, and then pretty much we come together and we tell each other the topic of our choice.

And I guess get the other's opinion. Usually it was trying to shock each other, but now it's more so. I got a pretty shocking one today. Mine's not shocking. It's a mystery, which is what I've lately been going through. Mine's corruption. And then a shocking twist at the end, like M night, shamalama, ding dong. Ooh, I like that. Yeah. So the hardest part of a theory's Thursday is figuring out who goes first. Now, before we get into that, we are going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Hey Siri, flip a coin. Details. All right. Looks like I'm going first. Looks like you're going first. All right. So for my theories Thursday topic today, I'm going to talk about a native American tribe and a monument that everyone knows about. And boy, oh boy, was I shocked whenever I learned this. Mm.

All right. So I'm going to talk about the Lakota. The Lakota is a Native American tribe that originated in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa and eastern North Dakota. Now, at the time that they originated, those states did not exist, but it was in those locations where they kind of like sprung up and where they hung out at the most.

Now, this Lakota tribe, they're known for their warrior culture. They're experts at hunting. They also adopted the horse culture from the Cheyenne tribe and quickly became the dominant tribe of the northern Great Plains. Now, this Lakota, they were a nomadic tribe that followed the buffaloes whenever they would migrate. So they would pick up their teepees, follow the buffalo, kill them.

put their teepees back down, hang out, you know, use the Buffalo for everything. Food, teepees, clothes, tools, everything. And that's why they kind of synced with the Buffalo. And wherever they went, they ended up following. And I do have a map of the location where they were at. I'll put it up right here.

So as you can see, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, and part of the southeastern part of Montana. Okay. All right. So now that you know a little bit about the Lakota tribe, let's talk about the most sacred spot on earth to this tribe, the Black Hills. So the Black Hills is an... Dan, do not give me that look. Let me explain it first. Okay, okay.

I'm just giving you a look that you give me every time I say it. So the Black Hills is an isolated mountain region that is located in Western South Dakota and Northeastern Wyoming. And I have a image right here of the location. And if you're listening, you can go to theoriesofthe3rdkind.com, click on today's episode and see it. But as you can see, South Dakota, Wyoming, right there, just kind of cut in half is the Black Hills. It's a mountainous region. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

So the local native tribes in that area, the Lakota, Cheyenne, Arapaho, this Black Hills area is like super, super important to them. This area was used as a hunting ground and parts of it is considered like sacred territory. Like they bury their dead there and stuff like that and a lot of other things. Now, located in the Black Hills is a large mountain.

Now, the Lakota tribe call this mountain six grandfathers, like the number six grandfathers, which represented the six directions and the supernatural deities who created the Lakota. They believe that this mountain, this six grandfathers mountain, was the center of the universe, and this is where they came from. That's what the Lakota tribe believes. Six directions? Yeah, six directions.

I know of one direction, but oh my God. So for centuries, the Lakota used this mountain in the black Hills to pray, gather food and find medicine. And this is even where, like I said, they buried their dead. They used to hold ceremonies. They did pretty much everything on this mountain. It was super sacred to them. Now we're going to transition and talk about the us government at that time. Okay. So we got the Lakota.

the Black Hills, and then a mountain that is in the Black Hills that is super sacred, the Six Grandfathers. Now we are going to talk about the United States government. So in the mid-1800s, you had a fuck ton of drama going on between settlers making their way over into the United States and trying to take over areas where the Lakota were already at. Now at the time, the Lakota didn't have like

an understanding of land and ownership. Nobody owned the land. They couldn't wrap their head around that. Like, what do you mean you own the land? This is the land. It's everybody's, right? But when these settlers came, they would beef with the Lakota and try to fight them. Of course, these Lakota, they knew how to throw down and they would fuck these people up. I mean, most of the settlers were just normal people just making their way.

So this led to a lot of deaths and multiple different treaties at the time started to get written up by the government. The government said, hey, you're killing a lot of the settlers or hey, you're killing this cavalry that would come in to try to protect the settlers. We need to write up treaties so we don't have any more deaths on our hands. So the government would say, Lakota, this area of land, this is yours. The rest is ours. I was like, OK, whatever.

Now, these treaties would always be broken all the time. However, it was never broken by the Lakota tribe. It was always the government that would break them. Soldiers would come up, be sent from the United States government. They would come up to the area where the Lakota were at and they would try to take over the land.

The Lakota would kick their ass, kill a lot of them, and the government would be then forced to sign up another treaty, like get another treaty to sign up because they kept getting their asses kicked. Now, one of the most important treaties that took place was the Treaty of Fort Laramie. This was signed in 1868.

And in this treaty, there was a fuck ton of stipulations, like a lot. But one of the most important things is that the United States government gave the Lakota exclusive use rights ownership over the Black Hills. That's all that they wanted. And the government gave it to them. They said, it's all yours. Just quit killing people. They're like, OK, cool. So like I previously mentioned,

The area of the Black Hills, extremely important to the tribe. So they agreed to the treaty so that the settlers and the government would not have to come over to their sacred area and fuck it up. However, the peace did not last long. So there was a U.S. military expedition that was being led by George A. Custer. Now, this George Custer was a bitch ass hoe.

He previously was a Union cavalry officer in the American Civil War and was then a U.S. commander in the wars against the Native Americans. And he was leading like this expedition up towards that area. And his bitch ass was like, I'm going to try to kill all these fucking natives. But every time he would come up on one or a group of them, they would kill all of his soldiers and he would escape. Now, I'm not going to get into the super details about the wars between Custer and the natives. However,

It's something important to note is that in 1874, while Custer's bitch ass was trying to kill the natives in the area, a bunch of gold was discovered in the Black Hills, like a ton of gold. Custer ended up laying claim to this discovery and thousands of gold hunters and miners started swarming the area. So what do you think the United States government should have done? If they have a treaty set up and they said, hey,

This Black Hills area is the natives. It's the Lakotas. Do not send any of the people inside there or the settlers to go get the gold. That's what they should have done. That is what they should have done. But they didn't. So the government ended up constructing roads and railroads within the area to get better access to this gold.

Of course, the Lakota in the area were like, what the fuck? We signed a treaty. Why are you building railroads and roads? What are you doing? And they continued to fight off everyone who stepped foot on their sacred land. Now, before we get into that, we are going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. This podcast is brought to you by Aura, the most complete online safety toolkit.

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All right. Welcome back. Now, during this time, it's important to note that the U.S. government was still giving food rations to the Lakota and to the tribes in the area. The United States government came to an agreement. We'll give you food rations. It was a part of their treaty.

And these food rations kind of helped the tribes and the natives in the area survive because of their food source. The buffalo were being ran out or killed by the other settlers coming in. Now, the government was sending the food rations and they were telling the Lakota, we aren't sending these people. We aren't building the roads. It's not us. However, they secretly were.

Custer's men would create a mine in the Black Hills. The Lakota would come in, kill them or run them off. And the U.S. government would throw up their hands and say, we had no part of it. And then they whispered to Custer, hey, go back up there and recreate that mine, mine some more gold. And it would just be a back and forth, back and forth. Of course. So we're going to fast forward to August of 1876.

the U.S. government enacted something called sell or starve. This sell or starve stated that if the Lakota or the neighboring tribes continued to kill or run off Custer's men from that mine, that the government would start withholding the promised food to the Lakota and the neighboring tribes.

So the government was pretty much saying, let Custer and his men go up there, mine the gold, let whoever wants to mine it, mine it. You leave them alone. We'll still give you your food or you can starve. Initially, the Lakota tribe pretty much said, fuck you to the government. Hell yeah. And started starving. Damn. Yeah. And that lasted for almost a year.

And in 1877, the U.S. government was able to force the natives to relinquish their treaty rights to the Black Hills, by which time the Homestake Mine in that area had become the largest gold mine in the United States. The largest one. So this forced the natives onto reservations. The government was like, get the fuck out of the Black Hills. We're mining for gold, bitch. Get your ass on these fucking reservations. This other land, it's...

Look at all this other land. Go on in. The natives were like, the Black Hills, this mountain in the Black Hills, this is sacred to us. Government's like, we don't give a fuck. There's gold on it, bitch. It's sacred to us now. Yeah. So within the next few years, the Lakota and the neighboring tribes faced genocide of their culture, traditions, land, everything. Pretty much everything was stripped and taken from them. Everything. Everything.

And you're probably wondering what the United States government did with the Black Hills, specifically the Six Grandfathers Mountain, the area and the mountain that the natives held extremely sacred. You would think that they would eventually give it back to the natives, right? The Lakota? Wrong. The Six Grandfathers Mountain would be turned into a very famous monument that we all know today. Drumroll, Mount Rushmore.

That's right. The government carved four famous United States presidents into the side of that mountain. Pretty much a giant fuck you to the natives. And there you go. There's a couple pictures of Mount Rushmore. Oh, man. And you want to know how Mount Rushmore got its name? It's a pretty interesting story. So it was around late 1800s. The U.S. government had full control of the Black Hills at the time. They started

divvying out areas of the Black Hills. And this one individual got an area that was below the Six Grandfathers Mountain. But you could still see it from where you were at, and it was still in the Black Hills area. Now, it was a mining promoter named James Wilson who got it, and he wanted to make sure his area was the right one. So he hired a New York attorney to visit and make sure that his area was correctly staked out.

So this attorney comes and starts looking at the land and he's like, yep, yep, yep, yep. It's all correct. And as he's looking at it and verifying it, verifying all of it, he looks up at the mountain and says that mountain right over there, the six grandfathers mountain looks at it and says, what's the name of that mountain there? The guide that was with them said, doesn't have a name, but you know what it does now it's going to be named after you. And that New York attorney was Charles E. Rushmore. What the hell? Yeah.

So there you go. That's what happened. That was extremely shocking to me whenever I found that out. I will never go to Mount Rushmore, ever. I've seen videos of people going up, like walking up the steps or whatever the hell it is, the trail to Mount Rushmore. They get up there and they're just like, there it is, Mount Rushmore. And they're just like, okay. It's just carved rock. Carved rock. But to some, it's sacred. And the U.S. government don't give a shit. They don't give a fuck about the natives. Dude, that is...

So there you go. That's my theories Thursday. I hope it was shocking. It was shocking actually. And honestly, when you first started, I did not think it was going to go that way because I was reading up earlier and how you talked about like the States, they weren't, you know, they weren't the States yet. And then this like area of land and like how it was like right in the middle of it. I had read up earlier that there is another area like that. And I can't remember what States it were. I was trying to find it. You know, the movie, the purge, right? Mm-hmm.

Well, supposedly there is an area of like a valley with like a river running through it that they consider to be the only area in the United States that you could actually have a purge and get away with it. Get away with it. Because of how the way it's set up, there's two states that this area is in. And if you follow one of the laws, it coincides or it goes against the other state's law.

which you have to have like both of them come together to make a decision. So it pretty much just like counteracts each other or something like that. And if you did commit a crime there, by the time they actually do anything to you, let's go smoke some weed there. What are they going to do? I mean, you can do that. Well, not here, but I've been sober for seven days now. What's sober. But yeah, I was reading that up and I was just like, it's like, holy shit. There's an actual area for the, you know, that they consider to be the purge zone. Hmm. Well,

If you or a loved one have visited Mount Rushmore or the Purge Zone that Dan speaks of, comment down below. We would love to hear from you. But that pretty much is my Theory's Thursday topic. So I pass the microphone to you, Daniel. Ah, I found it. They call it the Zone of Death. Oh, Jesus. It's a 50-square-mile area in Idaho, section of Yellowstone National Park, in which...

As a result of a reported loophole in the Constitution of the United States, a person may be able to theoretically avoid conviction for any major crime up to and including murder. I'm good. I'm not going to Yellowstone. So it's Idaho and Wyoming in that one area, the zone of death, because of the way their laws are in the Constitution. You can get away with murder and by the time they really try to convict you of anything. We do not condone or promote murder.

Just to clarify. Okay. Neither does Dan. He's just. No, it's just something that I read up on, you know, trying to find a topic and that reminded me of it. But yeah, Mount Rushmore. I liked it. Well, yeah, I liked the topic. Just educating people on the real history of what's going on or what had gone on. Just leave it to the government to do that. Here, we'll make a deal with you. You can have this area. We'll, we'll provide you food and all that. Cause we have settlers and stuff.

military going by, scaring off your buffalo and all that, then, oh, you got gold? Yeah. Well, now we're not going to give you any food. Fuck you. Give us that land. Oh, you gave us the land. Thank you so much. We're going to fucking carve four presidents into the side of it. Oh, it's sacred to you? We don't care. What do they call it? I know it's probably not the right term to use. Indian giving?

Oh my God. We're not going to use that. I apologize for Daniel's terms. That's what people call it. Like, right. Or is it? I don't know. We're like, you give something and you just take it back. I don't know. I've never heard of that. There's one term I've heard of African-American rich. I can't think of the correct. It'll come to me though. African-American rich. Are you typing in Indian giving Mandela effect? It doesn't exist. So it is a derogatory term. Yep. I knew it was.

Someone who makes an offering and expects to receive an equivalent or to have the gift returned. What about the other term I was asking about? The African-American rich? Oh, we won't look that up. No. All right, Dan. So tell us about your first off. I'm sorry for the term. I remember hearing it. And that's honestly what it sounded like is what the government did. Fingers pointing at the government. Yeah. Fuck the government. Yeah. Bitches literally have intercourse with them.

All right. So let's talk about your Theories Thursday topic, Dan, which is called Peter Bergman. Peter Bergman. That name sounds familiar. Now, before we get into that, we are going to take a quick break. This is our last one. So don't go nowhere.

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Really odd fellow. You know, whenever you go into a urinal and there's like a whole bunch of urinals open and you, I usually take the one closest to the wall. He would always go to the one that was like right next to me, even though all the other ones were full or not full. He would go to the one right next to me, called him. Well, his name was Peter, but we called him Peter, the Peter watcher. He'd take little gazes at the corner of his eye.

Speaking of that, I had my jeans in the dryer and they were came out fucking scalding hot. So I'm like, OK, I'm going to pull my sleeve. I'm going to pull my jeans on and come over here for the recording. I go to pull my jeans on my fucking slong hits the zipper, which is metal. Oh, my God. My ding dong almost got burnt by the red hot zipper.

Just a warning. Anybody who's affected by that. Are you free-balling over there? I'm always free-ball. Well, there you have it. Anyway, it's a little knowledge nugget for your ass. But hey, you never know. That Peter guy might have actually been protecting you.

From what? The other monsters? From the other Peter Watchers. Oh, okay. He's like the overprotector. That's right. That's why his name was Peter. My job in Gotham is difficult. Don't worry, Aaron. Only I will look at it. I'm not Peter. I've laid claim to your Peter. All right. I will take it back when I want. All right. So tell us about your Theory Thursday topic, Peter Bergman. This is the mysterious death of Peter Bergman.

From the county of Sligo, Sligo, Ireland. Okay. Now, I heard it Sligo, Sligo. I've heard it multiple ways, so I have no idea which way it is, but we're going with that. Now, technically, Peter Bergman is not his name. Spoiler. He is an unidentified person, but he was using the alias of Peter Bergman in the area of Sligo, Sligo. Now, just how it all started.

Two guys, Arthur Kinsella and his son Brian, they ended up going to Ross's Beach, Ross's Point Beach in Ireland. I like going to Ross's and getting shoes and socks. They do have some good stuff. They do have good socks. Sorry, go ahead. Ross's Beach. Ross's Point Beach. And they were, you know, they went there in the early morning of June 16th, 2009, around 6 a.m. Just crazy.

It's a recreational beach where a lot of fishing goes on. A lot of people like going there for vacations. Going there at 6 a.m. though, a little early for me. But they went there and they were walking the beach and they noticed something very odd in the rocks on the beach. Walk up to it. It was the body of Peter Bergman. And the authorities had no idea who he was other than, honestly, they didn't even know his name was Peter Bergman until afterwards. They just found a body. They found a body. No identification on it or anything at all.

So pretty much all they could really go by was that this body was of a male that was around 60 years old, tall and thin, gray hair. But the authorities, that's all they had. And to try to figure out who it was, they had to backtrack. So, of course, in Sligo, Ireland, they do have a bunch of CCTV cameras everywhere.

I'd say everywhere, but in most areas they have it. So they ended up having to use the cameras to try to backtrack where this guy came from, what he was doing and how he ended up dead on the beach that morning. So what they were able to figure out was that this Peter Bergman fella, he came from Derry, Ireland on June 12th, 2009. And he rode a bus to Sligo. He would then arrive at the bus station there. And then at around 6, 28 PM that evening, uh,

on June 12th, 2009. He was wearing a black leather jacket. He carried two pieces of luggage. One was a two-handled hold-all, which is a weird name for a duffel bag type bag. Oh, okay. And then another one was like a shoulder bag, which for like a laptop bag, messenger bag. After checking the cameras, they saw that he called for a taxi. They found the taxi guy, the driver. They asked him, and they were just like, he came up to me. He says, hey,

Take me to the nearest hotel, the cheapest hotel, the one that I could probably afford. Taxi driver's like, all right, I'll take you to whatever hotel I can find. First one they went to, they struck out. Couldn't afford it. Rooms were booked, something. So he ends up, the driver takes him to another place. The second place was the Sligo City Hotel, which was located on Quay Street, which they had rooms in, supposedly was cheap enough. So Peter takes

Bergman, the man, unidentified man or whatever. He ended up booking three nights to stay at this hotel and he ended up paying in cash. And of course, he made the name for the reservation Peter Bergman. Then he provided the address, which was, I tried looking it up, even people try to say this name, they couldn't get it right. It's Einstettersen. Okay. So it was Einstettersen 15-44-72 Vienna, Austria. That's the address he placed down. Now,

The hotel did not ask for any identification, so they didn't ask to see if his name was actually Peter Bergman or if that was his actual address. They didn't give a shit. He was paying in cash. He paid in cash, exactly, which I do have a photo of where it shows him checking in. Okay. And you can tell he's an old guy. That's gray hair for sure. And in the picture, you can see that he's wearing glasses. You can see a little frame. And of course, you can see the reception guy. He don't give a fuck. So Peter got his room. He was staying in room 705 and...

The people at the authorities asked the hotel staff and they're just like, oh yeah, I remember that guy. Very nice, but he kind of kept to himself. He didn't really talk to anybody, but you know, socially nice. So over the next two days of Peter staying there, the cameras would catch him leaving the hotel multiple times. And each time he would be carrying a purple plastic bag that looked like it was filled with something heavy when he left. Then when he came back, no bag.

Which, here are two images. The first one shows him walking by the reception desk with the purple bag. And this one shows him right outside with the bag. So he would leave with his bag, carrying something. Then when he came back, no bag. And he would do this multiple times throughout the two days he was there. Hmm. Odd. Very odd. So the authorities either think that he ended up like whatever was in the bag, he got rid of it.

He brought the bag back by like folding it up or maybe he disposed of that one. He had multiple. He didn't know how to use the toilet. So he just shit in the back and he just go dispose it. Hey, it could have been that maybe they didn't have toilets in the rooms, but yeah, during those two days he would go out, do the normal thing with smoking a cigarette, getting food. And then on the second day he would actually go to the post office and buy eight stamps for 82 cents a pop and then eight envelopes. Then he,

Of course, that's when they figured out like, okay, maybe he's writing letters to someone corresponding with someone, which they have no idea who. They never found the letters, which is honestly sounds like the police really didn't care too much to really dive deep into it. But yeah, on the second day, June 14th, Peter had actually gotten a taxi outside the hotel and he would ask the taxi driver, hey, take me somewhere beautiful, quiet, like a beach, somewhere I'd enjoy going swimming.

The driver was just like, okay, Ross's Point Beach is, you know, nice, quiet beach. People like going there. It's very pretty. So Peter was just like, take me there. Hops in a taxi, drives about 15 minutes there. Peter gets out, tells the taxi driver, stay right here. So Peter goes around. The taxi driver said that he just saw Peter just walk around a little bit, surveying the area, taking it all in. And it's like, comes back. He's like, all right, take me back to the hotel. Taxi driver's like, okay, whatever, whatever you want, man.

So, of course, Peter gets back. He does his normal go out, smoke a cigarette, walking in and out with the bag, just doing random shit, getting food, and then he ends up turning in for the night. Then that's when on the 15th, next day, at around 1 p.m., Peter would go down to the reception desk and check out, returning the key. From there, he would leave with three bags. He arrived with two. He left with three. One was the messenger bag, the laptop bag. Second one was the purple plastic bag.

And then the third one was actually a different black, like handled hold all bag different than the, than the different than the original one that he had. So he must've either got rid of that one or he left it in the hotel room, which they didn't find it. So I'm guessing he got rid of it. Now, as he left the hotel, he ended up taking the long route to the bus station. He went Quay street to wine street, walking around. He even, uh,

stopped in front of a department store they said and like passerby's that were question said that he stopped in front of this store and just kind of just stood there like they said like he looked like he was contemplating something and they also said he kind of look confused but then after that he made his way to the bus station from there Peter would find himself a seat in the bus station he would sit there he would get himself a cappuccino coffee whatever a sandwich sit down at this table and

And honestly, I couldn't do this, but he could. Other people were already sitting at the small little table. Nope. And he would just put his coffee cup there and sit right there with them. Nope. Nope, I can't do that. Listen, somebody sitting at a table, they claim the whole fucking table. I'm not sitting with them. Nope. But nope, he didn't care. He sat down, put his coffee there. One person reading the newspaper, the other old lady just staring off into who knows where. And then that's when the cameras caught him

Pulling out a couple pieces of paper from his pocket, looking through them, reading them. After he got done reading them, he shreds it up in his hands, gets up, goes over to the trash bin, throws it away. No idea what was on the paper. What the fuck? Cops never found it. Oh my God. It's like, did they really try? They didn't even try. Well, the bus would arrive. Peter would board it. The bus was actually going to Ross's Point Beach and...

People said, I think it was like 16 people said that they saw him get on the bus and actually ride it. So I'm guessing it must have been the people on the bus as well. But the bus would depart at 2.40 p.m. towards the beach and he would get off. And that's where he would start pacing the beach for hours. Whoa. And when I say hours, it took a taxi driver to get them, what, him there 15 minutes? So 2.40-ish, gets there, say, about 3. He would end up pacing that beach for,

And each person that was interviewed at like questions for this, one said they saw him at four. One saw him at five. Another saw him at nine, 10, nine, 30, 10, 30. And this is all PM 11 PM, 11, 10 PM. And the final one, 11 PM or 1150 PM. Wow. 10 minutes before midnight, this man from 3 PM to almost midnight,

was just walking the beach back and forth. No wonder he jumped in the water. He's exhausted. Must have been. So yeah, the last person to see him alive was at 11.50 p.m. I'm guessing they were leaving the beach considering it's almost midnight now. And the next morning, June 16th, that is when Arthur and his son Brian would find the supposedly undressed body of Peter Bergman on the rocks. But some reports say that he was undressed, like trying to say he was butt-ass naked.

He had some clothing on. Okay. They found his body. He was wearing a blue Navy t-shirt, a Speedo type swimsuit, underwear that was over top of the swimsuit, and a wristwatch. So he had no pants on, but he had a shirt on, Speedo swimsuit, and either tighty-whities or boxers over it. Now, on the shore, away from the body, was the rest of his clothes, which were folded neatly and stacked, where his pants, shoes, socks, belt...

And pretty much everything he left in his pockets, which we have right here. Put up there. Yeah. You used to see his pants, uh, guesses like his jacket and all that. Okay. What the authorities found in the pockets of his clothing were money, tissues, aspirins, bandages, a bar of soap that was not made in Ireland and was not from the hotel. So a random bar of soap that had no identification on it whatsoever.

I don't know why someone would carry bar soap, though. Maybe it's their favorite kind. Maybe. Still weird, though. Now, what they didn't find were his glasses, the stamps and envelopes, the shirt that he wore when he left the hotel. So the shirt that they found on the beach folded was not the same shirt that he was wearing when he left. His black laptop bag, the messenger bag or whatever, and the purple plastic bag. So pretty much none of his bags were found. Glasses weren't found. Stamps and envelopes, his glasses, his shirt, nothing.

None of that was found. So those were all missing. Okay. Now, in the post-mortem report, you figure he must have drowned. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Blunt force trauma? Nope. Heart attack? Heart attack. Okay. It was cardiac arrest because they said they did not find any signs of a classical saltwater drowning. So I'm guessing they didn't find any... Asphyxiation or whatever? Yeah. And for five, six months, they looked over the body, tried to find evidence and all that.

Nothing so they ended up burying his body in the town cemetery on September 18 2009 in an unmarked grave Because I mean Peter Bergman was an alias wasn't his real name now a couple things that they found that was very strange Was we could go ahead just go with the autopsy. He had a shit ton of health problems. He had one kidney He was going through the late stages of prostate cancer. He had a bone tumor and he had a myocardial infraction

several times. So several heart attacks. Yep. And yeah, so it wasn't drowning or that he was suffering. He was very sick. They did not find any drugs in the system. So the two aspirins or the aspirins, we can't say two, but the aspirins they found, he didn't even take those, which made people be like, this man was going through all this pain, suffering from all these illnesses and such. He wasn't taking anything for the pain. And yet his ass walked the beach for that long. Tough man. Yeah. Then, uh,

Then they went through his belongings, all his clothes and everything, which was very odd. They found out that he had removed all the tags from every piece of clothing. So you could not tell what brand it was or anything. He removed all the tags. And then the address that he gave, the weird-ass name, it is the address to an empty plot of land. So it didn't go anywhere. And of course, Peter Bergman, they couldn't find any family with the same name or anything like that.

So they pretty much had nothing to go on. They just buried him and that was it. That's it? That is it. Oh my God. Like literally, he, he wiped pretty much everything. So you could not identify him. You couldn't, couldn't identify his clothing, which I mean, the shoes probably could have, but. Is there any theories as to? So the number one theory is that this man was terminally ill. He went there to die. They,

Many people thought that he was going to actually go swimming and drown, but they think that the water at that time was too cold. So instead of drowning, the cold water made him like made his body in the shock, made his body go into shock, whatever. And he ended up having a heart attack instead. So he didn't drown. He had a heart attack in the water and then died. Then there was another theory that they didn't really throw much evidence into it. They said that he might've been a spy. A spy. A spy. Yeah.

And I'm just like, no. And a lot of people were just like, you don't give any evidence on it. You think that he was getting rid of evidence as he's going in and out of the hotel to like wipe like his his existence clean. And then he killed himself. Now, a lot of people think that he was a murderer, that everything that he was taken out of the hotel, it was pieces of a body that he was taken out piece by piece, getting rid of it.

Because supposedly someone said, like, the hotel staff tried to go into his room and he told them no. Ill-gotten gains.

All that was money that he got illegally. And he knew since he was dying, he couldn't leave it to his family members because legal-wise, it would be confiscated. So what he did is he would take that money and then he would bury it in certain locations around that area. He wrote the locations down in those envelopes, shipped them to his family members, and his family members, after he died, committed, you know,

suicide went and dug those holes up where that money was at and collected it I mean that could be it but no one knows if he actually had family or not yeah but they never found the letters they don't even know his real name don't even know his real name that's the reason why he was staying so anonymous

he didn't want anybody to identify who he was and he was dying so he's like i got to get rid of this money somehow and get it to my family members let me bury it and then write them in envelopes or write them a letter and then send it in an envelope to where it's at you think he might have like borrowed money from a bookie he got he got loaned from a bookie knowing that he was going to die so he gave the money away pretty much wiped his existence used a fake name and everything so the bookie couldn't find him and then he pretty much knew he was gonna die

Killed himself and then the insurance probably too. I don't think the bookie would loan him money if they didn't know who he was. Well, he probably told them his real name. But when he went to Sligo to get away with the money, he used a different name and everything. Oh, yeah. Maybe. You figure with today's technology, they'd be able to find out who he was. Yeah, I mean, it was 2009. Yeah, it's not like it's like 1929. Which that was weird because they're just like, the investigation never made it outside of Ireland. Like, they just...

It's like this group, this authorities there just did like a quick little investigation. Oh, we can't figure it out. Bury him. That's suspicious. Yeah. Now I did. I thought maybe he didn't kill like he was there to, you know, end his life. But things went wrong at the very end. I mean, they some of this stuff is missing the bags and everything. What was in the bags? Maybe he went to the beach being there so late, probably got attacked. The authorities killed him, took his money. Could have been.

Like him being robbed probably had made him have a heart attack and they threw his body in the water and took the bags and left. Possibly. Possibly. But yeah, I found that story and that was actually a listener suggested one. Mike Snow. Nice. Yeah. I was like, I looked into it. It's like, there's not a lot to go on, but it's very like suspicious that this man did not want to be found or his, like he did not want his identity to be released or anything. And well,

If you are a loved one, know who Peter Bergman is or any information regarding that case, you can send us an email to Aaron, A-A-R-O-N at theoriesofthethirdkind.com or Dan, D-A-N at theoriesofthethirdkind.com or you can comment down below on our YouTube channel. We would love to hear from you. That's right. If you know any more theories, definitely let us know. Yeah.

But that is a very interesting Theories Thursday topic, Dan. Thank you for sharing it with us. You're welcome. Thank you, Mike Snow, for the suggestion. I actually had a blast searching this one up, even though there wasn't a lot to go on, but it's so weird. It is. It's like, I mean, it almost kind of seems like he could have been a spy, but then again, he's too old. Yeah. And he had a lot of shit wrong with him. All right. Well,

With that being said, you have anything else you would like to add to your theories Thursday topic or to today's episode before we roll it out? If you have any suggestions, send them in. I'm for theories Thursdays. I've been looking at a lot of suggestions going over our topic suggestion list, going through emails and everything. I actually had a second one that I was going to go with. Decided not to because my premium ones could be a very interesting topic. My premium theories Thursday topic episode today is

Similar to yours, but it's not a human. Oh, yeah. Very odd thing. It's not an Irish. Floated onto the beach. That's all I'm going to say. Beaches and floating onto it. Never a good sign. All right. Well, I want to thank you for joining us today and thank you for all your support and love. Without you, we could not do this. That's right. With that being said, Dan, would you like to roll us out? Sure will. It's okay to be out of this world with your thoughts. Because you...

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