Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
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Hi, pussies. Surprise. I love a surprise Friday episode. And today we have on Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Barone, two of my favorite people in the entire world and the stars of the new Amazon Prime original, Overcompensating, which if you haven't seen, you have to go watch it now. It is unbelievable. It's based off of Benny's real life coming out story in college. It's fantastic.

funny it's moving and the music is incredible it really is just amazing I watched it like all in one day it was so fucking funny and you know I love Benny and Mary Beth and I love Ride which is one of my favorite podcasts which is their podcast and we've had them both separately on Therapa so to have them both together was amazing and just so fucking funny and perfect and I'm so excited for you guys to listen to it

To see if I'm coming to a city near you, go to passthatpuss.com and click live with Jake Shane. And to submit a tell me what's wrong, go to passthatpuss.com, click tell me what's wrong, and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Okay. Enjoy the episode. Love you, pussies. Bye. Bye.

Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. Today, we have two fan favorites combined into one. This is Ride, ex-Therapist, Mary Beth Barone and Benito Skinner. This is the best day of my life. Thank you for having me. Oh, I'm sorry.

I mean, like, I couldn't be more happy that you guys are both back. I did full glam. They said, you're not allowed to wear a gown to a podcast. And I said, watch me. She goes, a lot of people watch this podcast. I thank you. Yeah, but she isn't a full gown. I'm in a gown. Connor Ives, thanks so much for providing. Connor Ives? Yeah, Connor Ives. We did full hair and makeup, too. Oh, okay. Well, isn't that what everyone's doing? Yeah. Everyone's doing glam for everything. You guys watch Housewives? No. No.

Don't lie. I heard you almost lie there. Don't do this. You were about to say yeah. I know you're not going to do this in front of Jake. You don't watch Bravo. Stop it. Stop it. I don't watch that, but here's my thing. I keep watching people on this, on Therapist, and some of these straight guys, I'm like, what?

A little bronzer would have helped. Yeah, agreed. Maybe some concealer. Yeah, agreed. Come on, sweetie. Like, I have a pimple right now on my lip. I don't see it. Where? Oh, thank you so much. I called my friend yesterday, and I was like, finally got over the hump of a pimple. I literally, I can't believe you're calling that a pimple. Well, she goes, do you have herpes? Who are your friends? Yeah, wait, excuse me? And you go, what if I did? What if I did? Yeah. Because we're trying to normalize it, actually. Do people not have herpes? No, everyone has herpes. I think a lot of people have it. I think a lot of people have it. I mean, not me. Ew, ew.

No, I know. Well, it's disgusting. You can't imagine the cold sores I get. No, I know. I don't get cold sores. They're like shattering. I need sty culture to die down for a while. Whoa, everyone's getting stye? Because no one cares about your stye. No one cares about it except you. And I can't even see it, so stop. Have you guys ever had a stye? Of course. I saw a stye last night that I could see it.

No. Someone. If you know, because you're complicit in style culture. If you're going to call it out, then you're complicit. Well, that's my we talked about sweat shaming last time. Last time I was here with Jake, it was just us. And we talked about sweat shaming. And it's like, if you're going to do that, like that, I hope. Hey, you better. You better never sweat. Never. I better never. What is that dirt in your eye?

See, even talking about it right now, it's actually part of the problem. Yeah, we're giving it breath. But when we shot the poster for Overcompensating, I had a sty that was so large. It was full. And I don't know if this is awful to say. It just gave Quasimodo. But I don't... Why would that be awful? I'm always bringing up Hunchback of Notre Dame. It's almost like we need to watch it just to like...

It's like, we're going to be stuck in your head. I've never... I got a bus. I got a watch. We have to go home. Have you seen it? No, never. Okay, what did you grow up with? I grew up with, like... What was your, like... Sex in the city. Like, a bunch of... Because I grew up with scrubs and, yeah. The office. Yeah. I grew up... You know, I've never seen The Office. That's okay.

Wait, just do media clip that. Sorry, that's it. It is okay, right? Of course it is. Thank you. Maybe you'll get around to it. Maybe you won't. I haven't seen Game of Thrones and people, it's like, we're going to get to it. I saw you almost, you almost cut. He's like, that's fucked up. And then I realized like, that's just me like trying to be something I'm not. Cause I wasn't that passionate about it. Like imagine if we cared that you hadn't seen, you know what I mean? It's like, I don't.

Do your could it matter less thing. Oh, could it matter less that you haven't seen The Office? No, I guess not. Just ask yourself that next time. It really couldn't. Next time it pops in your head. Could anything matter less? And like not to be a hater, but like I haven't, have you guys seen The Office? Yes.

Yeah. Like the first few seasons. But I'm not like a diehard, you know. I haven't done a rewatch. But it was, it did give me comfort in high school. I did like, because it was before 30 Rock, if I'm right. I love 30 Rock. It was the like NBC like comedy Thursdays. And I do remember that being a big deal. I had a big social scale calendar. I had a lot of, I was invited to a ton of stuff. So that was big for me. But yeah, I haven't seen it since. But I know it's, you know, a comfort watch. Were you guys like glee? I have been thinking that the entire time.

You almost let me do this whole thing. I'm so grateful for what just happened. And do you see which one of us actually fixed it? Even just, I wasn't even going to say anything. That was so. I was just going to fix it. She would do anything to run this room right now. To sit there. This is my podcast. Do you want to? No, it's okay. Okay, are you sure? I like you at the helm. Okay. I agree. I feel safe. Do you guys watch Glee?

Yes. I didn't watch Glee. She hasn't seen Glee. That's crazy. I know. But what did I say? When Terry, my boyfriend, dies. Passes away. Yes. And I don't know. Whoever you decide to be with. Jerry's out. When they pass on, we will come together and watch Lost and Glee. Okay. Never seen Lost. Same. I haven't seen it. So that's going to be like our big thing. I love this podcast just being us talking about shows we haven't seen. Right. Because that's what people want to hear. You know what I have seen? Mm-hmm.

Overcompensating. Don't you dare. I did. Don't you dare. I did. You watched all of it? No. Two. Not yet. Some people got all of it. I'm on episode three because I've been working all day, but I'm on episode three. Okay. I'm on episode three. It gets really shot out of a cannon. Then he just got invited to a secret society. Oh, it's on. You saw. Yeah. You're Mr. Shady. That's Mr. Shady. That's Ms. Shady. Mr. Shady's here. We haven't even introduced Mr. Shady. Slim Shady's in the corner. Mr. Shady's here. Do you want to say hi? Yeah, come say hi. Come. Come.

There he is. I don't have bronzer on, but I love the office. So then get out of the shot. Why do you think you're not on camera? He's seen all the shows we haven't seen. Thank you for being there last night. Are you kidding? You look so handsome. I love your leather. I saw the one Getty photo of me.

New worst photo of me just dropped. Okay, so the yellow background had a weird, I will say, and it's so fun when those drop because it really can be like, I can't believe I look like that. I didn't realize my crow's feet were hitting in a way that almost felt mask-like. What's a crow's foot? Oh, there it is. I guess we won't talk about it. Better if we don't. I guess it's if you smile and then this goes like this. Oh, I think that's beautiful. Would that ever not do that? Wait, no, you're an actor. You need that. Yeah, exactly. You need to be expressive. Imagine if we weren't.

You don't have to be expressive. I know. Because all my lines are just, Benny, you look like a... One line that got cut that I want to say finally here is, you look like a fucking rapist. She did. That did get cut. Why did that get cut? Well, it's so funny. It wasn't even a note, but I think we just realized in testing, we're like, she does say rape and 9-11 within like 10 minutes of the show. That also got cut. My 9-11 also got cut. Let's take a beat. We'll do it later. Maybe season two if we get it. Yeah.

And you had my tits out in the first scene that also got cut. Yes. So, yeah. But they're later in the season. Okay, well, thank God. Yeah. She's my muse. Yeah. Thank God. My guy takes care of me. Of course. Well, you do. That's what I do. Wait, but I don't believe that you looked bad last night because what I saw was a gorgeous man who looked fantastic. Thank you. It must have been the angle. Totally. I look like if a tree stump had a baby. Yeah.

I do not. I'm sorry. It is the yellow. Yellow's a tough color, can I just say. I liked it, though. Thank you. Wait, it was a red carpet pic or inside the party? Oh, it was carpet. Okay. Yeah. It was carpet. The yellow was bouncing off. I had an interesting color vibe to my face, too. I will just say. I'll say. I looked good. That's all I'm going to say. She looked great. I had no qualms with it. You all looked amazing. I've been sent so many videos today of Mary Beth dancing with gay men in a way that I've never seen you move. It's body roll.

People don't know that I can dance because I don't really do it that much. I've never seen you dance. Well, I can. I've actually never seen you party. Yeah. I got drunk last night. Oh, we haven't even talked about what happened to me this morning. Are you really? Wait, are you really not even going to say hi to the bump on her head, Jake? Wait, where? We have a third guest. You know, I'm ready. This is big. This is big.

I know. Wait, you know when Miranda Priestly's like, did you fall and smack your head on the pavement? That was me this morning. You fell? So I got up out of bed when it was the dark of night, and I felt so sick, so I got up to get some water, and then I was going to go throw up. But on my way to throw up, I got lightheaded. I fell to my knees, and next thing I know... God save me, my dog is my baby. He's my baby.

I know. I woke up and my head was throbbing and I had a huge bump and I must have just like passed out on the floor. So then I went back to bed, laid down, my head's throbbing more. And then I did throw up three times. And so now I'm here. It's hard. It's hard because like my brain immediately just pictures all

all of it and they like want to see it. Yeah. No, I wish that there was CCTV of it. I would love to know what happened. Were you naked in my head? I think a ghost visited me. No, I was in a baggy t-shirt and my Calvin Klein's. Great. Because nothing comes between me and my Calvin's. Of course. You know, everyone's fainting these days. My friend just fainted after she got her titties done and she got revealed. Faint. Why? She went...

Well, it was a reduction and they unwrapped her. And then my other best friend, we were at...

We were at a restaurant and they had like an upstairs nightclub and she was in the bathroom and she fainted and I went to go help her. And someone knocked on the door and it was the girl's bathroom. You shouldn't be in the women's room. That's what they said too. That's not for you, man. Ever. That's not for you. They grabbed me by my collar and pushed me down the stairs and threw me on the street.

You got assaulted? And I thought it was a drunk patron, so I looked at the hostess, and I was like, help me, help. And he was like, just listen to him. Just listen, just do what he says. He goes, submit. Yeah, like, submit. And I was like, what?

And he was like grabbing me and tossing me. They would never do that at La Ferretti Famigliata's, which is the Italian restaurant in Overcompensated. Right. This was one. Yeah. So I was thinking about like college towns and how all of them have like some restaurant that every student is like, it's so nice there. But it is the one thing where I just kept it like it never felt real. Like the names and everyone was like, you've gone too far. I think at one point it was Giovanni Cipriani.

They were like, that is so fucking stupid. But it's Laforetti Famiglianus. So I wouldn't say that's less dumb. But they would never treat you like that. And I would say bathrooms, anyone, go anywhere. Right. That's what I thought too. Enjoy it. Yeah. Hey, Addie. So what else? He's like filming you. I love it. Filming you. Such a big fan.

So how are you? I'm good. How are you guys? No, I asked you. Hey, hey. Nice try. Stop deflecting. I was. Open up. Open yourself up to love. I'm good. I cut out dairy. Whoa. I cut out dairy and I felt so seen by you the other day, by the way. Me too.

When I chugged oat milk on you, And I did it for attention as well. Yeah. I'm not like super lactose intolerant. It's just like, it's a bad vibe for me. It's the worst vibe. I'll just be dairy free. I can't. It's just, I'm going to do it. I'm going to have it. You're going to have it. I think I'm going to have it forever. I think wheat though is not sitting great. Right.

Wheat? Because I had two pieces of pizza last night, gluten, and last night it was, I didn't feel great. Pizza, yeah. I hate pizza personally. What? Whoa. Have you talked about this publicly before? Earlier today. You hate pizza. Hate it. Why? Why?

You know, I don't really know. It's just like if I have to pick between pizza and pasta and it's like I'm not going to have both in one sitting. Yeah. I'm going to go with pasta every time. Wow. And that's what I ride for personally. Oh, yeah. Wait, what do you ride for? Okay. Wait, can someone go first? Oh, we have to do rides here? You do. Oh, okay.

Oh my God. Well, today I ride for overcompensating, which just came out on Amazon prime and it is fantastic. And everyone should go watch it now. Thank you for saying that. I guess what I ride for. I ride for you at the Webby's. That was fabulous. Was it? I was fabulous. I think you're incredible. I didn't catch any video. Don't worry. I saw you didn't post video. Did you?

You won, correct? They gave you Gay Guy of the Year. God, you won Gay Guy of the Year? Sorry. Better luck next year, Benny. Well, every year Time Magazine does Gay Guy of the Year and Benny got it last year. They do that? Yeah. Totally. Yeah, of course. That's amazing. Yeah, it meant the world. It was really cool. Yeah, there can only be one. It was you. And it was Benny. It was me last year. I also ride for like...

You know, just say it. I'm really trying to think because I've been waiting for this moment for a really long time. Are you guys going to ride for something after me? Yes, of course. Okay. I ride for, okay. Yeah. Yeah, it can come. Does it just come to you? I'll just say one. Okay. I ride for Nepo babies dating each other. Me too. Because then if they have kids, that's second generation Nepo baby. You know who's Nepo baby final boss right now? Four generations make up the family. Who? Romy Mars.

Oh, who's she with? She's Napa baby. Final boss. Great grandpa, Francis Ford Coppola. But is she dating an Apple baby? No, no, no. Oh no. We want to set her up. No, she's too young to have a boyfriend or girlfriend or non-binary partner. Right. I still think too young. I don't think women should date until they're 32. Hey, I agree. They're not ready. Exactly. I still have never had a boyfriend. That's true.

That's insane to me. Why do you think that is? When you're on tour, that's why. No, I was so close to one the other night. Oh, I can't. Just the other night? In one night? Wait, I love, in one night you could have a boyfriend. Totally. It was so funny. I got a headline after that I had dissociated so many times while making the show. And I'm like, that was one of the first headlines about overcompensating. And I was like, cool. I love that. And I did dissociate a lot. How could you not? What was it like filming?

Oh my God. So it was so much fun. We, it really did feel like college and it was so, but like so surreal because I had written some of those scripts like six years ago. Right. So at times, or I guess like five ish. And so I'd be in the scene with them and then all of a sudden my brain would be like, Whoa, this is so crazy. Like I've pictured this for so long. Right. Seeing Mary Beth is my sister for the first time. I was like, this is so weird. I love the video. Did you, did you or did you not post a video when she found out she was playing your sister?

We posted a picture. Yeah, it was that. We were at dinner together. It was beautiful. It was crazy because I got a text that was like, right. It was like, Mary Beth has been confirmed. And I just, oh my God.

my god we were right next to the bowery hotel i don't think i've ever it's like probably a top 10 like you know when your brain just really hits serotonin and the dopamine and just everything's firing it's just exciting because that doesn't really ever happen um i have never been so happy in my life i was so we we levitated did you cry we cried yeah yeah special that's beautiful it was really a beautiful moment do you so fun um there's so many good things in the show

Thank you so much. Yeah, like music sings. I love that. Oh, that's not what they're called. No, but to me, I went, okay, I guess, yeah, I think they might be called that. They're called needle drops.

Wait, okay, people said... Yeah, but like when you sing a song... But to me, a needle drop is kind of like a mic drop. Like, I'm like, what is that? I know, but that's just the... I mean, that's just the business. Yeah, right. Things don't always make sense. Well, a sink... I love Jake over there. I love the sinks. I know. I felt like Jimmy Fallon. I thought you meant just like actual sinks. Thank you. There are honestly so many of them are for you. It really is like... They felt like they were personally for me. Of course. Do you have a favorite? Either of you? And you too. Chime in. Buffy. Yeah. Your favorite needle drop? You guys do? Everything is embarrassing.

I love that song. I met her once. She's incredible. Yeah, she's awesome. That album, Nighttime, My Time was like, that was one of those things where I just, I was kind of creeping out of the closet, but I'm like, I just, at a certain point, I'm going to love this. Right. You know what I mean? Like, I can't lie. Like, I'm going to go to her fucking concert. Right. We're going to see this. And I went, and like me telling all my friends, like I'm picturing us like on the Metro in DC and I'm like, you guys are going to love this. This album got like, you know,

blah, blah, blah, and Pitchfork. Like, I was really obsessed with Pitchfork ratings. Oh, you were a Pitchfork guy. Well, of course. Was this before or after you did Skydive?

or hang gliding um i parasailed oh where oh no i hang glided i hang glided so i um i for attention i hang glided because i was in love with this straight guy so i was like hell yeah i'll um hang glide and thinking about it now it was the scariest thing i've ever done i did it in switzerland when i was abroad um i i literally i only had like a little bit of money and i spent all of it to do it and i'm up there and they were these like

crazy Australian guys who do it, I mean, 15 times a day. What I didn't know is that it's, I guess, I don't know, we don't fact check on our pod, so I assume, I can assume this is a safe space, but I can only assume that it, what I found out later is it's the most dangerous one of all of them. Like,

the most complications happen from this because it really fully depends on wind. Right. So, and right before we went, this is making my stomach hurt. It was crazy. And you literally jump off a cliff with like a kite type thing or whatever that's called. But, and these Aussies were literally lunatics.

Like, what do you mean? They were in and they go, I can't do an accent, but they were like, at one point, they filmed the whole thing. So I have footage of it that I can't look at because it's so, but at one point, he did like a dip where you do a nose dive. And on my face, I was so depressed at the time. Sorry, I'm sorry. No, you can't even imagine. I literally, there was no shift. I just went,

Like, I am so like, I don't care anymore. Right. This is how I fully thought I was going to die as he's like, let's dive. This is. And I think back to it and I'm like, I was so down bad. Like, it's crazy that I did that. Did you ever end up hooking up with the straight guy? No, no. So he is straight, which is actually really powerful.

So there, yeah. Now more than ever. Yeah, which is crazy. But I do think it forced me out of the closet because it's just like, oh, well, I do love a man. It's hard to tell your brain like that you're not gay at that point. Right. Like, well, yeah. You're willing to hang glide for someone. Yeah. Do you still keep in contact with him? Yeah. Yeah. Does he know you were in love? Yeah.

And isn't that amazing? Yeah. So what's up with you guys? Well, darling. In a show. We're doing this. So we're doing this show. So we're in a show. But also, I'm just so happy to be here. I just love you. I mean, I never have more fun. It's just like this is heaven. And like, this does feel like you're on right as well, in a way. This is the first space I've been in in the last two weeks where I'm not freezing, by the way. So just thank you for that. So imagine how warm I am. Thank you for that. Yeah, I'm so hot. And thank you for not, like...

For prioritizing me. Yeah, it's all for you. She would have been blue. My bones have been chattering for the last few weeks. Do you get cold easily? Oh my God, yeah. It's really hard. So what do you sleep at? I sleep at 72. Ooh. I'm a 68. I'm a 62. Jake. That's like. Burr. That's.

Let me one up you. Not only am I a 62, I have a fan next to me that blows on level three. It's only three levels. And then I have a mattress called an eight sleep that goes to negative 10 degrees or a negative 10. That's the level setting I'm at. And it vibrates me to wake me up. Wait, that sounds so that feels like to go to bed with a spray tan in that bed. Yeah. That's so cool. Have you got a spray tan ever? I mean, like this must be kismet. I was talking about it today. Just like pizza. Yeah. Did you have a spray tan all the filming? Yeah. Yeah.

It looked great. I will say every now and then a scene switches and it goes, Benny went to Bora Bora. That was the joke. We were like, because I got a fresh one on the weekend and then Monday was just a little bit. You can't tell that much. We did take Adam to his first spray tan ever. It's so fun. You got a spray tan? Yeah. You got a bunch of spray tans. Were you addicted? Yeah. I think you were resistant to it, but I think you kind of loved how it looked. Give him a mic in case he wants to chime in.

Can we get this straight guy a mic? Yeah, give him a mic in case he wants to stop us from the podcast. I know. Only if you feel it's totally necessary, though. You're kind of the voice of God of this, in a way. You have to get fucked. I know. I can't stop thinking about it. Jake, like, I...

And every time, like, are you just too busy? Actually this, it might be that. Are you too busy? Or are you not like, you're not like opening yourself up. I don't think I'm opening myself up literally and physically, you know, figuratively. Yeah. I'm not. I'm like, all I want to do is have sex. And I keep having, what's your type? Like, what's your, what are you attracted to? I, it changes on the day.

Totally. That's tough. It changes on the day. And that can be hard. Yeah. But my thing is like, and I keep having like, can I like get TMI? Yeah, of course. I keep having sex dreams and I'm like, I know. Yeah. I love that song. Sorry. I just think about it. Gaga. Yeah. Oh, Mayhem. That's what I write for. Oh, so fabulous. So fabulous. How that girl in your head ain't real. How bad do you want me for real? How bad? I think about that so consistently. I wish I went to Copacabana.

What's that? The two million person show she just did. Oh, yeah. That makes me sick to my stomach. Yeah. That many people. I'm like, that actually made me so nervous. Do you wonder how they do like security for that? Well, I think they don't. For her, yes. But I think it's just kind of like. They have like the sections so that people don't get trampled.

And that's when professionals are organizing something and they're like, we've done like the math on like body weight and like what each section can hold. And that's like thought and care was put into that. Right. So people don't get smushed. She is a rep for a cookbook.

I just think they did an amazing job. And they gave Lady Gaga such an incredible opportunity. But it's only because they were organized. Like, organization matters. It does. It really does. It does. It really does. Physical safety is important. You know that post hang gliding. Of course. It's important. It is important. Coachella, I thought, was...

tough at times. I just get really, it's, I get really claustrophobic and then at times there, all of a sudden you're herded with like a hundred people in the same little spot and that's where I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, I can't do this. Coachella's not a music festival.

Whoa. Speak on that. It used to be. I went the last year. It was a music festival because it was the last year. It was one weekend and it was so good. And then the year after that, they just realized like how much more money they could be making. And now it's really like a branding opportunity. The only time I felt joy. I mean, I miss Gaga, which I'm very upset about. Where were you? You'll see that show. Just like dealing with shit. Totally. And I was like, oh, I have to go home. Mm-hmm.

And I'm going to go see her in Vegas. We say all the same things. It's so scary. How do you guys know each other again? We met at a show. Yeah, we met at a show. Comedy show. Comedy show, stand-up. Would you ever do stand-up? Yes. You should. I don't think I'd be very good at it.

I don't think that's true. You don't have to be good. Did you know that? I feel like people on TikTok prove that every day. I think you may be right. Yeah. So like anyone can do it. How did you learn how to do it? She's such a witch. What? I can't be honest on James Shane's podcast. No, you better be honest. We're at Therapist. How did I find standup? I started taking improv classes. This was obviously an interesting time in my life. And I was like,

And I decided, I was like, wait, this is so fun. I might just try stand-up. I'll do an open mic and see how it goes. And then it went really well, unfortunately. So then my life took a dark turn. Now you're here. And now I do this for work. Do you have any upcoming shows? I do have a bunch of shows in New York coming up. And I'm doing one in the Hamptons, so that'll be fun. Oh, I love you in the Hamptons. I gotta go there. Yeah, they get to decide if I live or die. Everyone gets a little button. They just do a thumbs up or whatever.

So that's going to be fun. And then, yeah, Holmes and I are actually hosting a show, Holmes Who Plays Haley and Overcompensating. She's incredible. July 18th at the Bell House. I think tickets will be on sale. July what? 18th. Bell House. At the Bell House. Where's that? It's in New York and Brooklyn. I will be there. Really? Yeah, I will be there. I'm off tour. I'm off everything. Do you want to do the show?

Like, do you want to be on it and we'll like ask you questions or something? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That makes, I like that. Wait, really? Yeah. You'll feel safe there. Okay. Yeah. It's a great venue. Yeah. It could be fun. Yeah. Consider me locked in. Her stand up right now, you would love her hour so much. Oh, I want to see it. It's like one of my, it's my favorite you've ever done. We had, I had fun writing it. It's so good. It's fun. How do you write jokes?

I just say things out loud that are funny and I go, I got to write that down. You know? Yeah. And then that's the joke. What'd you say today? Somebody said we're both Canadian and Mary Beth just goes, oh yeah, that bullshit. That's from the show. That's from overcompensating. When? When I'm like, I have to go do my junior volunteer hours. Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Oh yeah, that bullshit. Oh yeah, that bullshit.

I was quoting your work. But you had such, oh my God, at Coachella, I really wish, I think whatever was happening, I think if you were with her, you would have felt better. No, I know. She would have kept you safe because she was making me laugh all day. But there are many atrocities. I tried to see you at the Charlie XCX after party and she told me, she said there was walking involved. I opted out. That's not what happened. Whoa.

And we actually can't get into that right now. Don't even bring up this after party. She got scolded. I got reamed out the next day. My God, I was sobbing on FaceTime. Wait, what? Are you serious? Yeah, at La Quinta. I guess we were supposed to stay and like we didn't know. So we just left. And then it was like we were supposed to stay. I was told that I don't have grit. Terry, my horse. Because you missed the after party. It was a really heated time. It was really heated. Here's the thing. Terry is my horse girl. He's not always going to be...

He doesn't sugarcoat. He doesn't sugarcoat. But I appreciate that. And we have the type of friendship where we can have a conversation like that and then like do, do like hang out and do work the whole day. And it's like fine. But I think it's because we just like respect each other and we hear each other even when things we like don't agree on. So like, for example, when I left and then I got in trouble. So, but how did grit come about?

I was just, you know, because actors don't have grit. I'll talk about grit. So I'll talk about true grit. Well, I was just like, okay, they got there like a little bit early. I'm just saying, I'm totally going to lie this whole story. They got there like a little bit early and then they were just like, oh, like the party wasn't going yet. So we left. And I'm just like, wait, you guys were supposed to all be here together. And like, then I went to the party later and

I saw you there. Yeah, I know. Raising canes. Oh, God. I was housing raising canes. I had a little bit, too. And I kept throwing up in my mouth, Jake. Yeah, I know. You kept saying that. Yeah, I know. And I said that. I think I said it on our podcast because I couldn't believe it. They were giving out these drinks that were in like fake Patron like bottles, which I thought they were kind of like fabulous. Like holding that. I was like, that's just such a cool right favor. Right.

I kept drinking the drinks and then I would be in the middle of conversations and some of the people there, I was like, oh my God, like I'm talking to Lauren. I'm like, I'm throwing up in my mouth right now. Like, can she see me re swallow it? And then I see you and I'm housing raising canes, which I love their work. I had never had that.

I didn't know that was a thing. I don't love Raising Cane's. Really? The chicken was good, I thought. It's fried chicken. It's like soggy a bit to me. Oh, this felt fresh. Okay. Fresh in the desert. Right. And they had the toast on top, which I kind of, I've never really. Right, the little broich bun thing. Yeah, I've never been. Broich? Broich? I love. Oh, my God.

You're not going to get that one passed, though. Yeah, sorry. I know you ain't slagged. Try to say that in front of Mary Beth. I know there's going to be comments about me being like, I don't know. I can already see the comments section of this one. It's fine. One of my friends doesn't let me say Porsche. Because what? She makes me say Porsche. No, it's Porsche. Oh, no, it's not. Wait, really? It's Porsche. Porsche. How much are you bringing up Porsches, by the way? A lot. Sometimes we'll see a car and we'll be like, oh, what a cool Porsche that is. Porsche. Porsche.

Is this the one that said you had herpes? Because I'd like to have a word. No, no, no, no. That's a different brand. We'll talk to her later. Interesting. Yeah, I saw you and I was having Raising Cane's. I loved the brioche. Is it brioche? It's brioche. I think anyway. You better hope it is. I better fucking hope it is. But the little toasty. And yeah, it was just seeing you made me so happy because obviously, you know, all of my close confidants had gone home because they had to wait 30 minutes.

We were there for an hour. It was so tough being an actor. Why didn't you text me? I would have come right away. I was at the house next door. And Daddy was on the way. That's my thing. I was at the house next door. All it takes is a little grit. Wait, were you staying at the guest compound? No, I was pre-gaming in the house next door. Do you know?

Well, you didn't text me. I was so drunk at that, though, that after I thought, I really want to write a horror movie about the guest compound. I agree. I totally agree. How beautiful would that be? But then I thought, you know, the next morning I thought, no, I don't think I should. There's nothing to say there. It'd be over quick. Maybe a short. Yeah, short. It's a short. The guest compound was a lot. Yeah. I've never been in a space like that.

What was that? Well, it almost didn't feel like a space. They almost felt like hollow homes. Like we walked in and it was a little bit of like a haunted house. No, it reminded me of like a pop-up museum of ice cream in New York or something. The door was so big. And it was like pastel. And then there was like, I want to say a Mickey Mouse sculpture. Yes. But it's like, why? It was like where they filmed Don't Worry, Darling, maybe. Yeah, it was sort of that. Yeah, it was kind of art pop. It was art pop in a way. It was art pop. And I just, yeah, I had to leave, but...

Yeah. I'm sorry I missed you guys. I missed you. I was so happy to see you last night and now today. Seeing you and your girls made my night. Oh, yeah. You know, one of my girlfriends is in love with you. What? Yes. Let's talk about this. Julia said, please tell Benny I'm in love with him. I love her. Well, tell her to back the fuck off.

She got something to fucking say. Wait, I just love your girls. They're so sweet. They're really funny. Yeah. Wait, so when you were on tour, were they all with you the whole time? In and out, in and out, in and out. I've never been in a tour bus, so I want to talk to you about this. How was that? I like it. Cool. Enough. Yeah. Well, you're like the perfect size. I also have like a butt. Totally. So it's like, I can't complain, but you can't shit on the bus.

Wait, what? Wait, what is right? So sometimes you wake up and you're like, because the bus driver has to empty it out.

And he just doesn't feel like it. No, it's more of like, I think it's more of like a kindness thing. Like, I don't want you to do, you don't need to do that. Wait, do you remember when John Mayer's bus like let out their poop buckets into the Chicago River? Yes. And there was people like on a tour boat, like. And it went on them, I think. I thought that was Dave Matthews' fan. Oh, you're right. It was. Why do I know that? I was thinking of a different story. I was like, don't fucking talk about John Mayer like that. Like, that was DMV. Yes.

Bitch. You just turned straight for a second. I thought of, I got my wires crossed with white singers. Yeah, it happens. It totally happens. It happens. Who are you guys listening to right now? Oh my God. I am so just listening to Charlie. The new Men I Trust album. Oh, interesting. Men I Trust. Canadian, if I'm not mistaken. Are you Canadian? That bullshit. You're Canadian? Yeah. From where? Bon Iver. Bon Iver.

Bunny Berry is so good. Fantastic. Back in only weight. I love that part. And then your album by Wet. Do you like Wet? I haven't heard it yet. I love Wet. Oh my God. Wet really got me through some things in college. I can't really speak today. I think I'm hungover. You're doing a really good job. Words can be so hard. Don't you think? Impossible. Like podcasts are hard. No one tells you that. I know. I love Wet. I just listen to Charlie still. Me too. Pretty much. I love New Lord. I mean, what was that? I think it's unbelievable. Fantastic. And I am so excited for Addison. What am I listening to?

I like you. We weren't going to ask. I'm listening to, what am I listening to? I'm listening to a lot of old Glee covers right now. Yes. So I did like a Somebody to Love moment. I did Paradise by the Dashboard Light. Yeah. I was doing Roots Before Branches. So I was doing that. And then I've been listening to a lot of Phones Gone, you know.

Of course. No facts. You can't remember. I am listening to the new Bon Iver. I was. During the Coachella weekend when that album came out, like, that's when I was listening to that. And then I, you know, it died down and...

The new Maren Morris is amazing. I love her. Oh, I love her so much. She is a legend. She sang our first dance at our wedding. She did. We did. The worst show we've ever done. It was... It was so by far the worst show we've ever done. It was so shockingly bad. I don't think you guys could do a bad show. No, they started the show without telling us. What do you mean? And there was a line around the block of people that weren't even sat yet. And Charlie Puth was there. So it was just like... It was a mess. Terry... Stop. Terry on the way home was like... It was...

I just don't think he's like, I don't think any of them will really think about it again. Right. Like, as a kind of like, don't worry about it. They'll forget about that. That show. What was so bad about it? Well, it was in a music venue and it was like 500 seats sold out. It smelled like cum though. It smelled like cum. Immediately. And I took my SAT in a room that smelled like cum. So it just took me back. Bad vibes. We had like, we had a bunch of comedians on different segments and like just nothing worked the way it was supposed to. And then I think the only thing,

Right spot was Maren Morris singing The Bones, and we danced. And there was a montage of childhood photos of us. What a darling that she, I mean, she saw that dumpster fire of a show. I know, and she still came out. And was still like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do me. And she, yeah, she's a legend. In the middle, I think is like, that's a top fiver for me. Baby. Do you know that song? Why don't you just meet me in the middle? Yeah. What's your favorite? Yeah, of course. All right, wait. Is that a Maren Morris? Yeah, yeah. What's your favorite Glee cover?

Do you have one? My favorite Glee cover is Roots Before Branches. It is an original. Yeah. I also love... I love that. It's your favorite cover. Totally. Your mind. I love your mind. I love your mind. I love your mind. I love your mind too. Oh, fully on his phone. I thought you were here to watch. He's tweeting, I hate the way gay guys and girls talk. I know.

I hate when they open their mouths. And I love Paradise by the Dashboard Light, and I love All Time is Faithfully. How could you not? Wow. Right? When Finn tells Rachel, I love you. God, that's gorgeous. Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah. You have so much to enjoy. I'm so excited for you to watch it. And the shit they got, were able to get on air is so, like, so insane. That show was out of pocket a lot. Oh, how was talking to her about being able to read?

Oh, that was incredible. I mean... Was that just like a dream come true for you? You did that in Bruce Wayne's apartment, no? No.

Sorry, tell me that's not it. Yeah, the Joker's right outside. Did you see The Joker 2? Yes, I watched it on a plane. We are a Fawala Da heads. We called it Fawala Da. We said Fawala Da heads. Because language is interpretive and it can be anything. I actually liked it. I had no problems with it. It was a musical now. Yeah, and great. Well, yeah, it's one of those things where you're watching it the whole time and you're like...

Yeah, I mean, it almost reads as like a music video of sorts. Like I was watching it on a play and the guy next to me started watching and I felt like, okay, I don't know. And then he turned it off after 20 minutes and I'm like, that's not what, like you, come on. Like men used to go to war. You can watch all of them. I think Joaquin Phoenix is so good. He's incredible. And Gaga. And I love their voices. I didn't know it was going to be covers.

It's a jukebox musical in a lot of ways. Yeah, absolutely. It's a lot like Glee. Yeah, it has very, very Glee. Have you ever seen an episode of Glee? No, the only thing I've seen is that meme that was like, I'm going to make a blank that is so blank. Oh, an environment that's so, yeah. I'm going to make a blank that is so blank. And the internet goes fucking crazy. You would love it. How could you not? It really changed me. How could I not?

Yeah, I think chemically it changed me. I mean, I couldn't believe that that was on TV and that all those people were gay. Like by the end, everyone is fucking gay in that show. I was just like, oh my God. To the point where at the time too, I was like, it's so gay. Did you watch it every week? It was like my piece. It was my favorite thing in the world. And I bought all the songs on iTunes. Lea Michele's Take a Bow was such a big deal for me. I can't. Why did she do that again? It was something about Finn and...

Quinn maybe. Oh Finn and Quinn. Yeah. And I love oh my god Quinn the moment I wake up. I love her little debut. I just think that yeah the characters are so amazing and I feel like the first three episodes it's like the O.C. They are like knockout television. I've never seen the O.C.

So that's something that's actually not okay. So this is where we draw the line. Yeah. Is it that good? You are going to be so fucking immersed in this program. Really? You don't understand, Jake. This has been my entire... What season is it? Spring. Spring. It has been spring. Like, I...

Every night I watch three episodes. I pray that Terry goes to bed. I know what's her name dies. It's not about the destination. It's about the journey. Exactly. And you know what? In the end, I think the version of her that you see in the show, she died. I think Marissa lives on. That's how I'm interpreting it. Okay. I don't think she would die. I don't think that would have happened. It just doesn't. People don't die. Yeah, people don't die. I just won't allow it. They don't. It's the first season of that show. I would say the first five episodes. I...

You're just not going to be, you're going to be so immersed. It's funny. It's charming. It's sad. It's tragic. It's like, it hits everything. And then all of a sudden you'll be watching it and then Misha Barton will wear a dress that just wakes you up. She's in this like little Mazzone dress. Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. It's so nice.

It's just, she will wear something. I just, I'm like, it was so magical. She was the moment at the time, huh? You can't even imagine. It's like beyond even that. It's like she, she wears this like Chanel couture dress to prom. It's so fabulous. Are they all super wealthy in the show? Of course. Except, well, yeah. But then like, they're kind of not at times. Right. But they figure it out. Totally. They get back on their feet. They marry whoever they have to marry. Always land on their feet. Julia Cooper. I just can't. I,

I know this will be, once you're done with your Glee watch, please. Well, and overcompensate in. Of course. I think overcompensating, you'll be done in an hour. Yeah, I think I'll be done today. It's like I, which I'm finding is really, I thought would be like, yeah, oh my God, binge it. And then some people today being like, season two, let's go. And I'm like, oh God, wait, you really did do this. That's what you want. You did this in one sitting. That took seven years. You know what I need from you guys though on this press tour? What? The Jennifer Hudson show.

Where is that spirit tunnel? You know, I'm ready to move these hips down that. I need you in the spirit tunnel. Did you do it? No. Are you kidding? Never. I will say there is someone in the room that has done the Jennifer Hudson show. I don't think the spirit tunnel existed. Oh, they got to get you back to that. No. You've done it though? I did it once. Yeah. It was fun. She was really nice. Yeah. I want to walk. I really want to walk butt naked through it. Oh, that's good. Right down the barrel of the camera. Looking right into it. They're censoring me. So intense. Just heels on. I can't.

I think you should do that. Yeah, and they sing unholy. There was someone at the overcompensating premiere last night that looked so strikingly similar to Ellen DeGeneres. I have never seen anything like it. Oh. And every person I talked to, she would pass like a ghost. And I would say, is that not Ellen DeGeneres? And no one else could see her. No one else could see her. It's just you. Yeah, I know. It's hard for this not to be my favorite experience I've ever had on earth. Do you get it?

You get that? Watching you say that you saw someone who was Ellen DeGeneres last night. Ask anybody. And I do think the ghost of her is there. At the Palladium. We do this bit on the podcast where I just picture her every day of her life. I think she wakes up in Santa Barbara. She, well, and Portia has a matcha because she's a matcha girl. Oh, I've seen this. Yes. Yeah. And she opens her door and out,

She goes, they tried to cancel me. And so she is so, every morning she says that. And Portia just sips her matcha. Portia's just, she's just mixing her matcha. You hear the sound of the spoon hitting them. No, it's not even a spoon. It's one of those frothers. No, no. There was someone that was so strikingly similar to Ellen that I couldn't hold it in. Can I just say, Ellen, you ain't slick. She was there. She was there.

She's wearing a wig. You ask Owen, ask Meg Salter, ask anybody. I was like, hey, to your right. Is that not Ellen DeGeneres? It goes as Ellen for Halloween. No, because that's so obviously a gay guy. We don't know. This is a cold case. We don't know. This is why you had to leave. You were like, I can't do it. But I just kept looking at her. Everybody, I was like, that's Ellen. And she would walk by alone every time. Alone. It's crazy you didn't come up to either of us to find out or anything. No, because you guys were so, I didn't want to, but I just wanted to congratulate you. But that's really high priority. Yeah.

Yeah. If there's an Ellen lookalike. Oh, well, you did hire that Ellen lookalike. Fuck, I forgot. She fucking showed up. We didn't get any photos with her. I told Amazon, I said, we need a photo booth. We need merch. I need an Ellen lookalike. I need a red carpet. I need Getty. I need Jake Shane. Yeah. It was kind of like one of my non-negotiables. Well, she was there. God.

God. I can't believe the holding space lady was there. Yeah, she's incredible. And she's so in on the joke in a way that I'm like, that's amazing. You've got to be in on the joke. Like, I was just like, obviously, I mean, you're like, that's such an iconic moment. And she's like, yeah, totally. Like she's, you know. Okay. Do we think the Wicked part two press tour is going to live up to part one? Well, how are they going to do that again?

Oh, if anyone can do it. Yeah, they have grit. It's the baby girls. They do have grit. They have grit. You know what I think is so unbelievable about that? It's like, that really is just like a play. I was having this thought and I'm just like, that is so crazy. That was like a blockbuster. Right. Why did they call it shiz? That pissed me off. That pissed you off? Why shiz? University? Shiz? I can't imagine. Hey, can I just say, I can't imagine the comments. They, these theater kids are going to shave your head. You know what? There.

They are going to burn you at the stake. Then explain it. Yes, actually, let's figure this out. Explain it. Before you come for me, tell me why it's called Shiz University. I had no idea we were getting talking animals. That did- I forgot that that happened. Did you see the play? I haven't. I can't wait to see it. This is one of those things. You've never seen Wicked. I've never seen the play, which makes me so sad. Well, now you're a target.

Sorry, I can't wait. But here's my thing. I'm like, I had to see the movie first. Sorry, I've been waiting all this time. But for that, everyone would give me shit about this. And I'm like, plays are expensive. Like when I lived in New York, I wasn't like. You couldn't like go to the theater. No, but I mean, you know, yeah. So I'm like, I don't know if there was like a student discount. Wasn't a student at the time. So I don't know. Yeah, it was expensive. There's not a student discount for Broadway. I'm like, it was so expensive. Broadway's sort of like, if you can't afford it, like, fuck you. Good luck. You guys never told me what you ride for. No.

I think I did, but I can't remember it now. I said something. I did, but I don't remember. What do you ride for? Well, we've ridden for things so much now that I really just have to pick what's in the room. And to me, it's your slippers. I agree. Because there's something about having a house shoe. And they're lived in. They're lived in and they're filthy. And they know the most comfortable version of you. They know the... They know the mold of your foot. Exactly. That's intimacy. Intimacy.

Yeah. They know that you're hermitage. Exactly. And you know what else? Wear your couture. And that's what I love. If you buy something nice, wear it to death. Mary Kate Olsen and her fricking Hermes Birkin. That is what I want. I want to see the holes. I want to see the sweat. Why do I keep referencing this? Have you seen how to lose a guy in 10 days? We're making a watch list for you. Yeah. It's going to be, it's going to be a long day. I'd never have. You've seen it.

- How to lose a guy in 10 days? - Yeah, is that? - Kate Hudson. - Oh yeah, I've seen that one. It's good. - There's just this moment where she says like, you can feel the sweat and I don't know why I keep saying it. - That's the one where she's like, - She's crazy. - They'll be Ben's partner. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah. Never seen it. I love Matthew McConaughey. - You're gonna love it. He is quite the stud in this one. - Is he still a stud? - Yeah, I think so. - I wanna ask every Nepo baby, how do you decide what to wear? Every day, how do you decide? Because you have so many clothes.

So how could you ever pick from all those clothes? I actually wonder the same thing. No, I wonder the same thing. What was your thing about all of them having flat stomachs? Oh, all Nepo babies have flat stomachs. They do. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I don't think Jeffrey Epstein is dead. And all Nepo babies have flat stomachs. And Dear Media, clip that. It's fucked up. I'm like, is it the genetics of it? Or like, what's going on there? They all do have flat stomachs. What's up with that? I don't know. But I would love some answers. Yeah.

So the next one you have on your pod, if you could just ask. I'll ask. I'll say how. What's going on? And they'll look at you and just blood will rush out of your mouth. What?

You can't fucking say that. Who sent you? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you know what I write for, actually? I love Nepo babies. Speaking of Nepo babies, Lily Rose Depps auditioned for Nosferatu. Oh, my God. On Zoom. To do that on Zoom? At a desk. At a desk. She was at a desk. I'm literally thinking about it. It was so, oh, my God. And wait, fuck. No, I'm thinking about Ellen again. No. Ellen, just this woman, Jake Shane, just...

You losing your mind at the premiere over Ellen. I need to talk to somebody about who I saw last night. You grabbing everyone? We'll look at the photos today. We'll see if she's in any of them. She has a Bob pixie.

Pixie cut. Blonde, obviously, because she looks like fucking Ellen. Yeah, of course. And I, she was there. She was real. Did she have a tie on? What? Did she have a tie on or a suit? Sneakers, white sneakers? It definitely wasn't a dress. Okay. I'm like going to freak out, honestly. Like, I know Cobra Snake took a photo of her. Okay, we'll ask. We'll reach out. I'm going to look through the photos and find this woman. I cannot wait. This is a gift to myself. I mean, I was so taken aback. Louise, if you were there. I would.

You would have taken a photo. It was that jarring. I was like, that's Ellen DeGeneres at the overcompensating premiere at the Palladium in Los Angeles. Tweet that. Ellen DeGeneres has arrived at the overcompensating premiere at the Palladium.

You know who gave it their fucking all last night? Who? Those paid actors you guys hired to hype up the crowd. The paid actors who were there to go like, welcome to freshman year. No one told me. They're the new student orientation leaders and no one told me this so I walked in and I thought they were like making fun of me for a second. I was like, fuck, I got domed. They're like, oh yeah, freshman year, what a fun tonight.

I was like, fuck. He got a hate comment that we, that was written actually quite well so that we quote it constantly. Well, I just like, if anyone says anything bad about you, I'll, that's where I'm like, it's, yeah, it's crazy for them. I appreciate that. They're going to meet floor because I'm kind of linebacker vibes these days. Like I'm ready to, you are, you're ripped. It's not even these days. This is just your body now. This is just your body now. Hey, hey, hear that? This is your body now. Therapy feels really good. Benny can beat up everybody.

everyone I know. I'm just ready to go. He's going to be Reacher. He's the next Reacher. I forgot to tell you, but I am Reacher. Oh, congratulations. Congratulations. But yeah, I want to, I do feel like I want to fight someone soon. It's just like, just give me a reason. You have to. I mean, with this body, they might as well. I'm ready for the SmackDown. That's the thing. Right. And I'll be there cheering you on. Have you guys ever gotten into a bar fight?

Have you ever hit someone? No. You don't strike me as physical. Fourth grade come up to me and say, like, I'm going to fight you now.

I got punched once, but... Whoa. Maybe we already talked about this, but since when I was in the closet, I had the meanest thing I could possibly think of about everyone in the class in the back of my head. Always. Just in case they brought up me being gay. Yes. And to one of them, she said something to me, and I go, you know what I could say right now. Don't do this. And that was enough. And I go, don't do this. And what she said. Knock it off. And she was like...

You know what I mean? She's kind of like, work. That's actually sick. And in that moment, I came out to her in a way. You earned her respect. Yeah, I was like, you read her. I go, you don't want to do this to me right now. Are you ready to get into the tell me what's wrongs? Yes. Okay, Adam, chime in when you feel necessary. Okay. Only if it makes sense.

I have this friend that is obsessed with the idea of male attention and is talking to five plus guys at the same time. Me and my friends try to tell her that it's not right. Why not? But she just laughs, says she's using them, and moves on. I love her. We wouldn't care really, but it's now with guys that we're friends with.

You can do it with strangers. I feel like guys you're friends with is tough because there's relationships and you have to be thoughtful about that. And what are you using them for? Exactly. You only need one to put your air conditioner in. Right. When it starts being hot. So I don't think you need five, but I think it's like, yeah, what's, what, what are you trying to gain from it?

I don't mind it if it's strangers, though. If you want to, like, be texting a bunch of guys and, like, you know, kind of seeing what's going to land. That feels like, you know, hedging your bets. I'm into that, I think. I'm getting a weird vibe from the person that wrote this in, though. Yeah. I'm getting a weird, jealous vibe. What do you think? Louise, don't you? Come on. Say it. You disagree?

No, I just kind of blacked out for a second. Yeah. She's like, I haven't listened to a single word you guys have said. She's like this girl. Our girlfriend is talking to so many guys and we all talk about how she talks to- But what's the question? What do we do? What are you going to do? Nothing. Let her do it. But if it's multiple friends that are in the group, it'd just be like, hey, maybe only partake if you're actually serious about maybe dating one of them. This is a dating thing, right? Or is she just texting to be friends with these guys? I think she's just flirting and fucking around. Of course.

I like her. I think maybe, okay, maybe 20. But like this is sort of a, this is giving me like a college, late high school problem. This isn't like we live in a city. Right. Sort of thing. Speaking of, how the fuck do I deal with being back in my hometown and everyone from high school being home? Like there are so many people I don't want to interact with. It's a minefield. That's tough. I think wear a mask. Yeah, a mask can be huge. That's such a good point. A mask and a hat and sunglasses. Yeah, yeah, actors. Taste closed. Actors vibes. What do you do when you go home?

This sounds terrible. I don't go home that often, but when I do go home, I'm kind of just in my house with my parents and dogs. Yeah, I get that. Like, I don't go out much, and I definitely wouldn't go to, like, a bar or anything like that. I just – I don't know. Is it – like, when did you come out? You don't have to tell me, but – When I was, like, 10. I think I was 10. Oh, yeah, you were young. Yeah, I had to ask my mom for a toy after, and she said no. Yeah, because – oh, man.

I was just like, well, there's this, I think it was like some commercial I saw and she was like, what? Like, you're not like going to get rewarded for this. Whoa. She was like, but I'm so happy for you, but like, I'm not going to like,

I would have loved it. I would have said, okay, I've got a gay son. He's also a businessman. Yeah, that's what she said. Well, that is what she says, but she didn't buy me. I think, you know, maybe I was eight and I, no, I was nine and it was during the recession. Of course. Tough. Yeah. It was tough for families. It was, it was the recession. It was a bummer. It was a recession. Yeah. It's hard. Big bummer. Um, what was the question again? People in your hometown.

Oh, where are you from? Oh, yeah. I'm from Connecticut. I'm from Stanford. I go home all the time. But I'm on good terms with people that I knew back then. So I don't dread seeing them. I guess there's a few people that if I saw, I would just wave and smile. You don't have to have a conversation. But I think you can always have AirPods in and you're on the phone. Headphones on people these days. It really doesn't. That doesn't stop. You can even know you can truly even be in a full conversation with someone and they still will just be like, hey.

Yeah. Like what the fuck's up, man? Yeah. Look at you go. My one thing, that's the thing. It's like, sometimes I feel like I have to then come out to them or they do this whole thing of like crazy. And I'm like, Oh, I can't do this. Right. So yeah. I mean, I, but I think it's just kind of maybe avoiding those types of

those types of places. Right. Yeah. Avoid the spaces. Right. Maybe watch like Sweet Home Alabama or something. Absolutely. Yes. There's a lot of good advice in there. Is that it? I've seen it. Yeah. That's a good one. I've seen it. Yeah. I would say like 10 things I hate about you or no, whoa, no. How to lose a guy in 10 days. A lot of stuff based on the number 10. I also have not seen 10 things I hate about you. Same universe. Yeah. Same like sort of time and tone and it's just good fun. I haven't seen either. Okay. Well.

That'll be added to the watch list. It's a big day. But I appreciate that it's okay that I haven't seen The Office. Of course. You have the rest of your life to watch this stuff. Now, the OC, we gotta get to it. Yeah, yeah. Because I really think this will change you chemically. What about One Tree Hill? Never seen it. I haven't seen that, but I'm sure you know. Do you love? Yeah. That's the OC. Yeah, totally. Because you couldn't do both. It was like you did the OC or you did One Tree Hill. My dad watched One Tree Hill. Oh, that's sweet. That's going to be on Nathan Scott.

Have you guys ever seen The Leftovers? Yes. Yes. Justin Theroux. How could I not? That is one of my, I just finished it. Wow. Justin Theroux. Justin Theroux. I love shows that say like, we don't have to make sense, deal with it. No. They didn't answer questions and I was like, cool. HBO makes that. I love it. Yeah. I love it. Put him in the bath naked as much as you want. Right? And it's like, was that real? Like, what was going on? I love that goddamn show. Carrie Coon. Carrie Coon.

Period. That was a long time ago. It was like, yeah. And I was the only person I knew that watched it, so it was really hard. Well, I just watched it. I had no community. Have you seen Station Eleven? I heard that's incredible. Apparently it's amazing. Yeah. What's your favorite show? Like of all time? Just maybe recently. Recently.

No, you can go all time. Stakes couldn't be higher. Oh, I've been watching Nirvana, the band of the show. It's like, do you know it? Okay, yeah, yeah. It's like a couple of guys shooting the shit about Nirvana. It's a Canadian comedy and it's that bullshit. Oh, that bullshit. It's that bullshit. I lost, but lost is my favorite show of all time. Can't win a gun.

I was speaking about Lost. Yeah, and The Office. That was earlier on this podcast. Nope, but also earlier on, earlier today. Your house is bugged. It is bugged. And we've been listening, and we knew what to bring up. Did you guys ever watch Degrassi? I did watch Degrassi. A few. You're Canadian. But I'm a skin scrubber. No, I never saw it. I turned down an audition for Degrassi one time. When you were a kid? Yeah. No, when I was, yeah. Why'd you turn it down? I just was like, I didn't want to be on Degrassi.

Wow shots fired at Drake I mean he's been through enough Shots fired literally he gets shot at in the show Yeah cause he becomes a paralyzed person That show tackles tough fucking subjects When you get serious I start to laugh It's not all a joke People love that show in the US I find It was on Noggin which was like a CL channel It wasn't Disney it wasn't Nickelodeon it was a secret third thing called Noggin I think it was also on MTV too with the little dogs in the

Oh, yeah, the two little dogs. MTV, too. MTV, too, baby. That was later. You know what show I loved so much was Robin Bigg.

Oh, totally. I love Robin Bigg. I'm so sad. Bigg is dead, which just breaks my heart. And Rob, oh my, it's a deer dick? Dreer dick? Dry dick. Dry dick. I'm obsessed. He just seems like a great guy. I loved their whole, their chemistry was just amazing. I think you would have loved it. I watched like a lot of MTV stuff though. Like I watched Tila Tequila. Oh my God. A Shot at Love. Yeah. God. She lost the plot. Yeah. I think so. But I loved that too. That show was amazing. Tara Sultans, my new BFF. Yeah. Do you?

Do you remember? Were you a real world? No? Kind of. Real world's actually, I think, maybe partly where I realized I was gay because they were all having sex on there and there was this guy and I was like, but I like what he has going on. You know? Was it T.T.? I forget. But what I remember in Paris Hilton's My New BFF, and I really wonder if anyone at home listening who has seen it remembers this. So in the final round of Paris Hilton's My New BFF, she was deciding between like three BFFs, right? This is real. Yeah.

And they brought in their old, these BFFs, ex-best friends to like come and talk shit about them to tell Paris why they shouldn't be her best friend. I really hope I'm not wrong. There was a moment where this one girl goes, Paris, you should not be friends with her. One time she took a shit and sent me a photo of it.

And I remember watching that. I honestly, I have nothing to add. What a perfect moment in television. And it's not talked about enough because that happened. That whole show is like sort of like left the consciousness. I didn't even, I had totally forgotten it was a thing. We have to bring it back. Cause it was during her fight with Nicole Richie, right? It must've been. That was crazy. That like consumed me. Cause Simple Life was my favorite show. Oh, okay. It was everything to me. And no one thought you were gay? No.

Well, no one is interested in me to say. No, I'm sure so many people did, but enough were kind of like, all right, you know, maybe not. Yeah, but you're good at playing straight. Like, you know, like when you put it on, you put it on. Thank you. I mean, I really appreciate that. No, I think that's just like Idaho. I was just like, okay, I'm going to do everything I'm looking at around me. I'm just going to mimic that and do the best I can. But it's really, it is hard to like fully, I mean, I just...

given who I am now, I think it's pretty obvious why that was, why that was difficult at the time. Oh my God. I'm so sorry. I met Terry's mom last night.

Oh, this was incredible. Yep, I did. She loved you. I went up to her and just said, I love you. His sister was like, oh my God, Jake Shane. Really? It was so sweet. But again, she was like, what? Because you go, that's the star. I'm obsessed with her. She has everything. She was wearing pearls. It was so cunt. Classy. He grabbed her by the neck and said, did you see fucking Ellen? She was really scared.

She went home after that. I got that shout. Yeah. We had to drag you out. I was hooking up with a guy for the first time, mind you. Okay. Yeah. Well, long story short, he farted. Oh, wait. The guy can't fart? I don't know. One time I did fart when I was hooking up with Terry and I could not. We just started laughing. It was just like, in that moment, we were a couple of divas just queening out. It was during.

Do you know what I mean? It's like sometimes it's just funny. Like this one guy DM'd me and he goes, oh my God, this killed me. And he keeps sending me the craziest shit. He DM'd me. He was like, I want to, I want you and Terry to both. Suck the fart out of your ass. No, I wish. Because I've gotten that one. Suck what out of your ass? You're going to get a lot more after overcompensating. DM saying I want to suck the fart out of your ass. People used to tell Ice Spice they wanted to drink her bath water. Yeah. It's insane being an answer. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

But they said something about wanting to fuck both of us. Like we're both, I like kind of on all fours. And I just had this picture of Terry and I both just spent over, like just hanging out while this is happening. And I was just like, I would, that's just my good sis. That would be, that's really fun. That's sweet. It could be really fun. It could be really fun. I can't think of anything that would be worse. If they get out of my house. But in that moment with Terry, I think we'd, we'd make the most of it. If a guy farted during sex, I think just like be gracious. Yeah.

Be gracious. My friend was giving hugs. Don't make it a big deal. You go, you go, no, that's right. You lick your teeth. That had some stank on it. No, where'd that come from?

Jacob's so warm in this fucking room. Benny, I have sweat beads. Can we turn on the fan? People are going to watch this and go, he can't get a word out. It's because they're all trapped in my low back, which is covered in sweat. Are you not dying? No, I'm comfortable. She's finally at the temperature she should be. Mind you, we have literally done shows where we're on stage, and I'm like, we have to get her a coat. She's blue. I turned purple. It's really bad. Sweat.

Oh, you can't imagine the clamminess. I'm not touching. I'm so clammy. I'm not touching a person for the rest of the day. I can't show this enough. I'm comfortable. For once, a woman is comfortable. God, just let her have it. Okay. Oh, here we go. We have a, maybe like this person seems. Okay, let me have some of this nipple water first. Oh, you want to hear something crazy that happened? It's very smile too. Okay. Oh my God. She runs up.

That's who I channeled on Drew Barrymore, by the way. When I had to chug. That was so Voss for you. You put that down in two sips. What was up with her in Smile 2 and doing that? Character choice. Wait, no. Wasn't it... Her therapist was looking for anxiety. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was a plot point. At first I thought...

It happened the first time and I went, okay, that was, because I think, I'm not kidding, I think she should have been nominated for a Golden Globe. I agree. She was incredible. Fabulous performance. She is unbelievable in that movie, but the first time I saw it, I thought, holy fuck, and I need someone to ask her, like, was she taking that down? It felt special effects to me. I think, but I think she was an actor's actor and I think she was probably doing it. I think so too. I can't imagine how many times she had to pee.

Yeah, exactly. Imagine how many takes they go, hey, sorry. We have to do it again. We got to do it again. Get her another boss. Reset. Reset. Her throat was so open in those. But yeah, it was an anxiety thing. Have you guys seen Trap?

- No. - No, but someone told me the plot and it sounded fabulous. - Okay, so it's M. Night Shyamalan, his daughter is the main character in the movie. You haven't seen the thing like, your dad is the butcher. You haven't seen that? - We've seen that. I feel like the trailer was the movie in a lot of ways. - It was, yeah. - And so I didn't feel the need to then watch the feature. - Josh was such a big deal for me. Pearl Harbor. I remember going to Pearl Harbor as a kid.

Oh, you went to Pearl Harbor? Well, no, not the place. I would have loved going to. He went as a kid. He just loved that World War II stuff. Mom and dad, take me to Pearl Harbor. Come on. That was when he was trying to be straight. He was like, I love World War II. No, but my dad was a history teacher at my high school, and so he took his class to it, and so I went along, and I don't think he knew what I was going to take from it. Oh, the movie. The movie. Michael Bay. Josh Hartnett. Oh, my God. And Ben Affleck. Ben Affleck.

Slevin? No. Yeah, he is lucky number Slevin. I never saw it. Never saw. I'm a fan. I think he's great. I wish he was more stuff. He's the killer, right? Of course. I mean, they tell you that in the trailer. Is that in the trailer too? Yeah, of course. Oh, okay. Someone had said that and I was like, all right, now I can't see it. But I hadn't seen the trailer. You've got to see it for M. Night Shyamalan's daughter's performance. Bring back the Razzies.

It's brave of you to say that. Francis Ford Coppola, he was like, I'm going. This is amazing. And he gave a speech, right? It was very like, sorry for a girl taking a risk. He was kind of like, yeah, I fucking made something. Was it Megatropolis? Was it that? I never saw that. Megalopolis. Megatropolis? That's us, girls. That's the sequel. And I'm going to see that one without seeing the first one. What was it like?

You guys all have to watch it. I want to see it. Omri Plaza's in it, right? Is there a camp? He's touring the movie again. He's only going to show it in theaters. You can't really watch it at home. Oh, I'm in. I'd be down. You should go together. I would love to. I haven't seen Sinners yet. Oh, Sinners is amazing. Have you seen Babylon? No, but I know the Gaga song. Watch it in four parts on Air France.

In four parts? That feels very doable. Do you know what I mean? That feels very doable. Babylon is not a one-seater. And I think if Gatsby didn't exist and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, like, then Babylon would have been huge. That's my thing. Oh, you know what? Let's do this one because it can... I know what I'll prescribe. Amazon...

Do I pick a college town or a big city? I love going out in the city, but I'm scared it's too big and harder to meet people. I also love the idea of everyone around me being a student and it being walkable in a college town. Ooh, that's a really good question. Wait, so is this a college student?

Fully an adult male. They're applying to school. Oh, they're applying. Okay, so they're applying to school. No, this is a guy who's 42. And he wants to know if he should move to a town where it's all college students or a city. Right. I would prescribe overcompensating. Okay.

Absolutely. Yeah, watch the show. See what you could take from that. I think there's also, there are schools that feel like a college town, but they're like adjacent to a city. Then you can go into the city when you want, but you also have that like really community feel. Right. So maybe split the difference. DC was good for that because it could be like we had a little bubble and then you just kind of go out. Or like Boston is great for that. Boston has a million colleges. Boston's the best college town. It really is. Where'd you go again? Boston College, famously. Only for two years. Right, of course. I had my fun up there.

Just a little small. You left your mark. Make impact. You did. I'm waiting to be asked to be commencement speaker, so. You have to. I want my honorary degree. Okay. Well, you guys, what did we learn today? You too. I feel like what I learned and what is going to stay with me is that Ellen was at the premiere. Yeah. So Ellen had to come and pay her respects overcompensating. That means the world. And that means the world. Yeah. We appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, that's crazy. Oh my God. We barely talked about that. There is something going on. It's a fainting epidemic. Yeah, of course. Don't herpes shame. Yeah, of course. Don't kick a guy's ass. Get a house slipper. Preferably. Get a house slipper. Absolutely. That's so fabulous. Wear them in. Watch Overcompensating. There's so many shows out there too. So maybe watch the OC. Watch. I want you to watch the OC, but I've learned that today I do need to finish Overcompensating the second you guys leave. Please, darling. We have some good stuff in there for you. And thanks for taking the time to talk to us. Oh, the sink thing. I love the sink.

I think the sink actually is what it's called. It is a sink. Yeah. It is a sink. Yeah. And I want that to be what you learned. Yeah. Hey, hey, I'll take it. Hey, okay guys, can still teach you some stuff, girl. But a needle drop is also correct, but a needle drop is like when it goes into the credits.

Right? See, that's what I thought too. It's kind of like a... But it's also just like a moment. Well, maybe people have been misusing it towards me, so I've internalized that. And so we're going to get to the bottom of this. Like, for example, when they play team by Lorde in the first episode, that's not a needle drop. That's a sink. Okay. It's been explained to me that it's a needle drop. A needle drop would be like...

season one, episode three of Girls when they play Dancing on My Own. Right. And it goes straight into, you know, that's like a needle drop to me. Or like before a fight scene or something. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a big, it's yeah, like Welcome to the Black Parade is more of like a needle drop. Drop in the ocean, Vampire Diaries, needle drop. Well, I'm getting more confused. Okay. Hey, you're gonna get it. You're in a gown. Oh, yeah. She wore a gown for you, Jake. Thank you for showing the fuck up today. Yeah. Of course. I have to. I mean, if I'm gonna make a triumphant return to Theropos, I'm gonna do it with flesh.

With Claire in chair. We did it in chair. We did it in chair. Jake, thank you so much for having us. I love you guys. This was so fun. We love you. Will you come to campus with us if we get a season two? A season two. Please. Season two. Season two. You'll have me. You're so cute. I love you guys. Wait, you need to get. I know. That's what I learned. Big takeaways. You need to have sex. That's a huge takeaway. Like, come on. I think you're working too much. That's what I think it is. I know, but okay. You're right. I think I need to get fucked. I need to do it. Yes. I need to do it. Or fuck. I mean, I'm not assuming anything. No, I can buy three.

Absolutely. I love you. And I have nothing to say on that. No. You guys give a little bye pussies. Bye pussies. We love you. Thanks for having us. You too. Letting us into your world. Come here. Come here. I'll give you a kiss. Bye pussies.