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Today we talk about... My body's built to process vodka, so I'm gonna be fine. Here's what you do. Just pretend. And then you'll believe. This is a weird conversation to have at a Hooters. If everyone could turn it down, I'd like to talk to Jesus Christ right now. Here we go. Start your engines. I'm sorry, mama.
Gentlemen, gentlemen. I'm sorry, mama. What's up, gentlemen? Gentlemen, gentlemen. Hold up. I'm sorry. They don't love you like I love you. Slow down. They don't love you like I love you. Go bumper, baby. Beyonce tickets, $1,600. Our producer just told us. How much? For some floor seats. $1,600. Oh, my God. Adam, come on.
call Live Nation right now and do Bumper Sings Beyonce, okay? Oh my god. Yeah, and I'll do it for dude, I'll do it for half price, okay? Bro, Bumper Sings Beyonce will sell out, okay? Okay, I'll do it for half price. Wow, that's cool. What did I say, $1,600? Like $800? Nobody's going for $800. Yeah, I do it $800 a ticket. Oh, who's going at $800? Hold up, they don't
They don't love you like I love you. Slow down. They don't love you like I love you. Back up. Proof's in the pudding. Wait, isn't They Don't Love You Like I Love You, isn't that from a different song? Yeah. They don't love you like I love you. Wait. Yeah. Yeah, so she just took that from that. That's MAPS? Yeah, that's MAPS. Yeah, MAPS by...
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cold War kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Karen. Oh, so Beyonce is going to charge you sixteen hundred dollars to just sing a different version to listen to someone else's song. Come on, y'all. Whoa, guys, stop. Do not come at Beyonce. Oh, hey, you know what? You know what, guys? If you can turn it down, I'd like to talk to Beyonce, who I know is listening. Bro, he's going to buzz around the beehive. Who I know is listening right now. OK, please turn it down. OK, so.
Hey, Yont. I thought we had a thing. Remember that time that we were all side stage together watching Tyler, the creator. Oh, I remember that. You're supposed to be all the way down. I'm supposed to be talking to Yont right now. Ron Howard was there, dude. Sorry. Sorry.
And all of a sudden we smelt this delicious like cotton candy-esque smell. And we were like, is there a cotton candy machine on the side of the stage? What's going on? And then all of a sudden these giant men came on stage. And we're like, why are these men blocking our view? They're seven feet tall. And then Yonce showed up. And it was like time stood still. And I held you in such regard, Yonce. And then when I wanted to shell out my ducat,
to come watch you perform as an average Joe. It's $1,600, Yachts? Ooh.
Wow, dude. Wow, dude. That's supply and demand right there, though. That's all that is. Yeah, who are you trying to get? Can we come back yet? You can come back. Yeah, you guys can come back. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Hello. Hey, hey, hey. It was getting like... Sorry. I was going to go run an errand. That was weird, dude. You went off on her, bro. Well, sorry, dude. I don't know. Yeah, you didn't hear what I had to say. What did you say? A lot of interesting stuff about how I'm disappointed that she...
is charging too much for her tickets, dude. Well, what do you expect? Wait, what's a higher- That didn't take that long. What's a higher-priced ticket, WrestleMania or Beyonce? Because they're both at SoFi. I'm going to say it's Beyonce. It's Beyonce, dude. WrestleMania is, yeah, it's like a fucking nickel. Different target demo. I feel like WrestleMania is a hard ticket to get, though. It's a hard ticket to get. It's not $1,600, though. No way. Well, to me, I'm like-
Who do you want coming to your shows if for 1600 – you just want a bunch of rich fucks who actually don't love your music or do you want – They don't love you like I love you. I love you. Yeah, they don't – hold up. They don't love you like I love you. Hey, this is actually an interesting thing you're bringing up. Do you think when you like really – This is a thing. This is a thing.
A subject, a talking point. By the way, I love that you preface it this way. Oh yeah, what's interesting, Blake? This is an interesting thing. Do you feel like when you really break your bank to go and do some shit, does that make you enjoy it more? Like you're like, we had the best time. Okay, this is interesting.
This? No, yeah. Okay, this is interesting. Because you don't drop two grand and go to Beyonce and then leave going like, eh, it was all right. You tell everybody it was fucking fantastic. It was the best night of our lives. Yeah, right. I don't think I do. Whether you tell everyone or what you actually felt like at the show, those are two different things. If you're the type of person that's willing to leave and lie...
Then yeah, Blake, I guess you do go and tell everyone. I'm saying Disneyland, it goes off of this mind state. Shut up. Shut up to Disney. You bring seven people, your whole family to Disneyland. Everybody's 300 bucks a head. You come out of there like...
Happiest place in the fucking world, dude. Best place on earth. Yeah, you have to. Yeah, you do. Relatable. Yeah, but if it costs $50, you would still be like, holy shit, that was awesome. I'd be like, eh. Like back in the day when you'd go see a concert and it cost $5 to get in. Sure. And then the band blew you out the fucking water. You're still going to leave going like, holy shit, last night was the fucking best. If it was great. Yeah, but I'm saying when you pay that big,
big guap you kind of are like setting yourself up for like yeah there's gonna be an epic night no matter what happens you have to say that you have to come and do it that way you do you have to whether you say that or believe that it's two different things yes I believe you have to say you are like trying to convince yourself but
But then if you go... I have no problem saying I wasted money doing something and it wasn't worth it. Yeah, me too. Really? Yeah, me too. Okay, see, I think the more money I spend, the more I drink the Kool-Aid of fun. Well, because you don't want to feel like a mark, but at the same time, you...
also want to know the worth of your dollar and fucking call it out when it sucks. You can convince yourself that you are a mark. Well, I am. I'll tell you a good example. Like, I went to the finals game for the Warriors when Toronto beat them, like, last game in Oakland. Okay, this is interesting. This is an interesting thing. I paid a big amount of money. I brought my brother. I feel like, in total, it was, like, maybe around $4,000.
$7,000 or something for both of us. Nice. And we lost. And it was like, we had to come out like, but that was history. We were part of history though. That's cool. But it was terrible. It was terrible. I would be like, God damn it. It was the worst. Yeah. No, that, that,
sucks, dude. Yeah, it's the worst. You have to just go, I'm glad. Yeah, Kyle, what is happening there? Kyle's on some dogma shit, bro. He's making the eyebrows for his camera. I'm trying to fix his flare. I'm so sorry. Hollywood Minute, everyone. I'm going back to my grip roots. This is a Hollywood Minute because there's a light shining in the corner. Kyle found Jesus. He's getting taken up to heaven. Yeah. There we go. There. Look at that. Look at that. Do you see what I fixed that with? Look at this. Oh, my
God. Fix that with this. Oh my God. A folded piece of paper. Yeah, I'm fixing it. He does it all. So to people listening at home. Yeah, it's not a, this is a visual thing. Tune into YouTube. Tune into YouTube to see Kyle. Tune into YouTube. Check it out.
Smash that bell. I think, Blazer, to speak to your very interesting... This is interesting, right? This is interesting, right? This is an interesting thing. Honestly, I'm glad you said how interesting it was, Ders, because I've been thinking it. To speak to this, the move is... Please speak to it. Especially for a game that you're about to spend money on, because it's a win or lose. It's a 50-50, right? You've got to pad things around it. True. Yonce's going to put on a show. The team might lose. True.
Yeah, Beyonce's a win-win, win-win. That's not what I'm talking about. That's not what I'm talking about. What I'm saying is you got to go with good people. So like it's about the bonding. You got to go to maybe a dinner beforehand. More money. More money. Yeah, make it a little bit more of a thing. Yeah. Right. That is more money. It is more money, but it helps because if the show sucks and like you're behind a pole or something like. Bad seats. Well, bad seats, fuck.
bad seats, bro. Well, there's like somebody next to you that's just funky. Yes. Yeah. Or who's just really singing all of Beyonce's songs and you're like, I came here for the young. If I'm sitting next to you, you're bummed. You say it's funny. You're bummed, dude, because I'm like, huh? Adam, I think sitting next to you, you're like, I'm the only one that can sing in our area. Am I correct? Hold up.
Wait, but that guy who's singing spent $2,000. Let him live, man. Let him sing every word. True. I know, but then you're sitting right next to him and I'm ruining the show for you, Blake. Aren't you a little butthurt by that or no? I didn't say anything about somebody singing. I'm saying like a poll. So do you say, hey, bro, stop singing or do you? No, you let him sing. It's a concert. It's a concert.
Well, no, I'm not because I'm the one singing. So I would just join him. You're at a concert. You're at a concert. Sing away. Dude, swing away, Merrill. Yeah, I would join him. Nah, sometimes you got to shut the fuck up and let Beyonce do it. Come on. What? No, you can sing. Well, that's the opposite of what you just said one minute ago, Blake. Yeah, I know. I'm flip-flopping. Oh, okay.
This is interesting. This is interesting. Okay, that's interesting. Now, why did you feel the need to flip-flop? This is an interesting thing. This is why, for me, live music is hit or miss because it's not your experience. It's a collective experience, and you've got to be ready to be collecting some fucking garbage.
Yeah, well, that's why you go to a nice dinner. I love that you used to... I feel like you have come around a little bit on live music because I remember back in the day, yes, you saying how much you hated it. And then you went to a... The year was like 2006 or 2007, and you went to a Killers concert. And I remember you coming back and being like...
I've changed my mind on live music. It was a transcendent experience. And we're like, what does transcendent mean? It's cool that the killers did it. The killers did it. Here's what it was. It was like a New Year's bash or something on like the Sony lot or the Paramount lot or something. Paramount!
Dang, dude. You fancy, huh? Okay, yeah. Vinny Chay style. No, no, no. It wasn't like a cool invite. This is before everything. Yeah, what do you mean? Right, okay. You snuck in. But you're still there. The Ders is cool like that. Yeah, what are you doing there? That's the Ders effect. And so they were just throwing a party there to make money. Like,
whatever, live show. Sick butthole. So somebody got tickets. We went. And they got a lot of songs, you know, a lot of hits. They do. It was only a kiss. But after the show, it was a fucking terrifying mob. I saw people just pushing towards the gate. And you're like, this is thousands of people pushing. It got a little scary. You were like, hold up. I saw a few little people pushing.
get like, put like hoisted out. Wait, wait, like children or like? No, like little people. Little people. Okay, okay. How do you describe them? What do you? Little people. What do you say? Yeah, that's right. I just say, yeah, yeah, little people, yeah. Human Ewoks. Just clarification. It's okay to clarify, right? It's okay to clarify. I say human Ewoks. Adam's is human Ewoks. And to be fair, Blumpkins. That's who was in the Ewok costume. I call him Blumpkins. Okay, y'all went down the wrong one. Dwarves. Hold up.
Bobbins. Is that bad? Bobbins? Nobody? Willow? So they were like getting trampled and I saw people like hoisting them up onto like things and that made it shitty again. So that's why they call them the killers. The killers put on a good show, but. But you never liked that because I remember I went to a lot of concerts when I was 16, 17, 18. And I would go like a few times a week to different shows and
And I love that. I love getting squished and I love like having to squeeze out or like getting stuck in the pit and there's like a fully grown man. This was people screaming. This was people screaming. Yeah. Yeah. When it's like a mass movement, like there's a describing where it's like they're all rushing towards the door or something like that shit is fucking freaky. If you're in the pit, if you're in the pit. But when you're 16, it's kind of fun. When you're, I understand. No, I never liked that. You never liked it. Okay. I never liked it.
Nah, Durst doesn't seem like a pit guy. Yeah, I don't like that. I love the pit. Oh, yeah, you do. But I don't love when... Those big check hands. Yeah, I don't love when shit is supposed to be working properly, and then it goes awry, and then people are pushing. I don't like that. That scares the fuck out of me. Oh, wow. I don't like it either. That's not very punk rock of you. Wow! Wait, what do you mean? I feel like when you go to a public space, you...
There's a certain contract where, like, you look out for people. Right. Okay. And as an adult, I 100% agree. I don't like that anymore either. Sure. But I find it interesting that you never liked the chaos of it because especially when I was younger, I really enjoyed the chaos of, like, the after show, like...
Some crazy shit's going to go down. I thrive in the chaos. It was exciting. You go in the parking lot. People are fighting. You're like, oh, this is kind of tight. Yeah, it is kind of chaotic. Yeah, you find someone's gun. You grab it. You start to punch. Oh, what? Yeah. Wait, what? Hold on. Okay, okay. Wait. Fire away, Merrill. Can I ask a real first date question? Oh, this is interesting. Okay.
This is an interesting thing. Allow me to really make this podcast quite interesting. I think we're the guys for this question. What's the best concert you've ever been to in your life? Oh, man.
And why is that a first date question? That's a good first date question. Like a conversation starter. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, I would say, yo, what's the greatest concert you've ever seen in your life? That's a good first icebreaker. Adam's like, this is a weird conversation to have at a Hooters. I'm like, how am I supposed to talk over the music at Spearmint Rhino on my first date? Why are we talking about the crab lips?
I think I know my most transcendent moment at a concert. I know that too. Okay.
I know what it is. That's not what I asked, but I would like to hear this. Yeah, this is interesting. You said first concert ever? No, this is interesting. Wait, did you ask that? What was the question you asked? That shit's important. No, it was just your first concert. It's just supposed to be a name. No, it's your best concert. The best concert you've ever seen. Okay, okay. So I did. Yeah, that's fine. Okay, well then that could be the same. It's transcendent. Your first best most transcendent concert. My first most...
Best transcendent moment at any concert was watching Jack White fucking shred Okay. In a duet with a fucking like 90 year old theremin expert at Coachella. Oh my God. Oh man. It was. Why did Kyle lead this off? And we're back.
Oh, my God. I'm never going to see that again. You might see it again. I don't think so. This dude was old. The guy playing the theremin was fucking old. A theremin is that weird electronic where you move your hands and it's like. Yes, Adam is right to explain what the instrument is. It also is. It is pretty terrible sounding instrument. It's like. Yeah.
Yeah, it's like, explain it, Kyle. Okay, a theremin is an electronic device that works in proximity. So if your hand gets close to one of the bars, the metal bars, it'll make it quieter or louder. If your hand gets close to the other one, it goes louder and more high. It goes high-pitched, high or low-pitched. So it's like...
Durs is doing it. It's basically like if you have a microphone that's feeding back next to a speaker. Admittedly, I love Jack White, too. You've got to drink that Kool-Aid, though. If you're just a hip-hop fan or something and you don't really fuck with Jack White and you stumble over there, you might be weirded out by that experience. This was like the high point of a fucking ripping set, dude. If you're into Jack White's guitar...
It was fucking ripping, dude. I'm team Jack White all the way. Yeah, he fucking rocks. He's like, I just played the guitar to the best of anybody's ability. Now listen to this terrible instrument from this 90-year-old dude. That was the strangest part is it was like it actually worked with the way that he was...
It was really wild. Dude, this was Coachella main stage. I bet. The guy's a vampire genius. It was transcendent. You were zoning. You were zoning. You were transcended. Fuck yeah. You were fully transcended. What drugs were you on? Mushrooms. Hold up. Okay. And we're back. Mushrooms and weed, bro. That's cool, bro.
Right.
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My transcendent moment, because that's what we're talking about, right? That was the question? Yeah, this is interesting. This is an interesting thing. Was, ah, damn, I'm blanking on the name of the Arcade Fire. Oh, dude, yes. Yeah, at Bonnaroo, and we were all there together, and it was right when Workaholics had just come out. So it was the first time, like, that was a really crazy Bonnaroo, because I felt like we were in L.A. The show came out in April. Bonnaroo was June or July, I think June.
And so it's only been out a few months and none of us had really left LA and LA people are like cool and they'll be like, oh shit. And don't like us. Yeah. And they hate us. You know, people are like, oh, cool. This show. And we're like, oh, we're getting recognized a little bit. But then Bonnaroo was insane. And then arcade. And so I kept getting past joints and I smoked every one of them that came my way. And I probably smoked like eight or nine joints. And then, uh,
Arcade Fire put on a hell of a show and I remember just like spinning through the crowd. Literally. Yeah, beautiful. Like literally arms out spinning. Literally. Like I lost you guys and I just was like, wee, wee, and just spun.
Like a fucking top through the crowd. Yeah. There are some magical moments during festivals when it's all winding down where I've had just walking through the massive fields. All the shit. All the people's shit on the ground. Piss everywhere. All the trash. It's magical. Stop to take a shit real quick. It's a beautiful... What you're describing is dehydration. Go ahead.
Arcade fire. You're just like hallucinating. The colors are really popping. When you're super high on drugs. Yeah, you're peaking. You're peaking. Everybody else is like passed out in the grass. You're like, they're really going to sleep here tonight? Oh, fuck. That sucks for them. Right. They're going to wake up in the grass. Oh, my God. What was yours? Was it The Killers? Was that your favorite concert ever? No. Sorry. Excuse me. It might have been his only concert. This is interesting. Um...
Yeah, all those festivals were cool. I mean, I remember breaking into that church. Oh, yeah. Oh, that was. Oh, yeah. Was that South by Southwest? Yeah. Man, I haven't been there in a while. And this is the classic because I think it's Adam's worst concert going experience. Oh, yeah. Maybe my favorite. Yeah. Because it was very small, intimate. There was a church. Dude, it was late. Me and Kyle broke in and then like let you guys in the side. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And we went to go see, it was Tune Yards opening for- Twin Shadow. Twin Shadow opening for James Blake. James Blake. That's right. And James Blake didn't come on until like one, I think. Really late. I think we came late, me and Blake, and we came and met you guys just for James Blake. And by that time, it was one o'clock and we'd been drinking since like 10 a.m. And I remember, and we're in a church and it's-
It's not like a rock show where you're like up and moving and getting energy. You're sitting in pews. We were on the floor when we got there, right? Oh, is that right? Yeah, just sitting like cross-legged on the floor. And then as people left, we sat in the pews. Yeah, I remember going backstage in that show somehow, like going, right? Like, what the fuck happened? They thought you were the preacher. What?
We snuck in the back of this church. Like a door opened and we got in. Me and Durs used to just walk places at festivals. Oh my god. And be like, we're supposed to be here. Do you remember when we used to walk places, dude? This is interesting. We just would pick up a ladder and you could get in anywhere. We used to just get in. This is interesting. Yeah, and I remember that was one of my least favorites because I was so drunk and tired and admittedly I didn't know much James Blake. And it was so... If that was like...
to start the concert off, like to start the weekend off, I'd be like, wow, this is tight. If I'm just a little stoned and it's like in the middle of the afternoon when I'm not blackout drunk, I'd be like, this is great. But it was so late and I was so tired and drunk. And James Blake is a mood, right? Yes, he's definitely a mood. And you really got to be like, oh, this is the shit. And you're watching something that you didn't think could be performed live, especially like the drumming.
Yeah, that was the sickest part. The off-sync drumming. I was like, how is he doing this? That was wild. Great drummer. And I was like, hated it! But Twin Shadow was dope. And then before that, Tune Yards was doing a one-woman pedal show.
I remember that. I was like, I've never seen anything like that. Yeah, dude. Like looping it and shit. That was like some of the first times I saw that, that like loop shit was kind of sick. Now I feel like people kind of started doing that. The loop shit's dope. I feel like I saw Reggie Watts do that shit in like 2004. Yeah, Reggie Watts was a king. Hey, shout out to Reggie Watts. Big shout out. He's a king of the loop. Yes, sir. Yeah, he's a king of the loop. King of the loop, man.
Okay, you guys want to hear mine? But that was such a small, intimate show. And like I was saying, I was with my guys. Oh, yeah. I love you. I love you, Ders. I love you. And we broke, we snuck in. Had a good dinner. Did we have a good dinner? Probably. Yeah, we had great dinners at Austin. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's Austin, baby. Yeah, you know we had some salt lick. But this, we were coming from Yellow Wolf, right? Well, yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Is this after or before Yellow? Yeah. My block shed. We went to Yellow. Me and you, you were like, I want to go to Yellow Wolf. I'm like, boy, I'm with you. And we went. I just want to party.
Hey, Kyle, are you bummed that Yellow Wolf didn't transcend? I'm fine with it. Am I bummed? No, I'm good. I got everything I needed out of it. That he didn't become like Post Malone. Like Post Malone is now like one of the biggest artists in the world. For sure. And when they started, you were like, yeah, Post Malone, Yellow Wolf, you kind of put them in the same camp. They were neck and neck, weren't they? Yeah.
And is it just because they were both white guys with tattoos on their face? White Southern. Oh, I never have done that before. I've never put them in the same. I grew people together by races. Yes, me too. I've never put them in the same boat to tell you the truth. Oh, really? I guess they are both white. I never.
Isn't Machine Gun Kelly more akin to Yellow Wolf than Post Malone? Yeah, I think so. I think so. Wow, look at you guys. I know white rappers, period. Oh, well, yeah, I guess you probably are right. And then once again, he eclipsed Yellow Wolf. Right. Wait, who's bigger, MGK or Post Malone? Everlast was godfather of white. Ooh.
I just want to party. I mean, now Machine Gun. Yeah, because he's a movie star. Machine Gun Kelly's a movie star now, though. He's got movies. Yeah, but kind of. No, he's got starring movies. Well, he's got movies. I don't know if he's a star of them. Dude, he was in Bird Box, dude. Was he? Was he in Bird Box? I think so. Wasn't he in the kitchen? I think you're right. I think he was like, yeah, he's like fucking in the closet. He's like the renegade. Pull it up.
He was like, I'll be in this, but I got a rewrite idea. Wait, did they make a bird box too or what? Because I need another one, baby. Give me that. Cat box. Wasn't that about like the end of the world? Yeah, where you couldn't open your eyes. I'm like, okay. Yeah. So good. What a great concept.
You're not allowed to look. A week later, it was like, you can't make a noise. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For the... Quiet place. Yeah, quiet place. You can't watch it. Now it's like, you're not allowed to watch it. Yeah, that's what it is in The Last of Us. Yeah. The HBO. Right. That's based on a video game that I never played that looks like it's probably fucking cool. Didn't know it was a video game until right now. Yeah. People claim it to be like the best video game ever. I...
Dude, I'm getting back into video games. I just was playing Call of Duty. I'm getting like... Oh, yeah? This is interesting. Yeah. I was just like, you know what? I got some downtime. I've wanted to play... I've wanted to smoke weed and play more video games in my life. Trucks make me cool. And so I've been smoking a lot of weed and playing a lot of Call of Duty, and it's great. That's awesome. And if you guys want to get Call of Duty, get a PS5, get Call of Duty, and we can play together...
That'd be fantastic. I'd love that for us. Dude, it really is fun. Can I just log on and not play but smoke with you guys? Yeah, you're guys just getting killed all the time. Kyle just ducks in the corner of the level in a fucking drop...
buy a drop box just like i'm just gonna roast like all night with you guys while you play and just hang out that'd be sick because i've been smoking a fuck ton of weed too ever since like like so much nice okay wow what something's in the air ever since the movie was pulled something's in the air dude yeah it's like wow just smoke weed all day wait what smoke weed all day yeah what did
what happened yeah the movie's over honors our movie was pulled yeah we would have been shooting it like right now oh yeah i'm still gonna send it freaking sucks i've been gaining weight for the role though so oh shit keep it up so you're telling me i should work out all the photos just got back from that trip i went on the indonesia trip yes dude they're starting to drop i like them dude i i'm like everyone in the group is like
a fucking athlete. Like, Sean White was there, Nina Dobrev, it was her birthday. They're both in phenomenal shape, and I just look like a bowl of mashed potatoes. She's not posting that many pictures of you. I'm like... You don't look like a bowl of mashed potatoes. He's balancing it out. You're okay. Come on. I can't stop eating. Yeah, she hasn't posted that many of me. I think she is politely going, maybe he wouldn't want that one. Right. I think she...
I noticed one. I think she tagged one that it wasn't even you, but like the bro's face was like blocked by like a rope. But she's like, no, Adam was here. Adam was here. It was here. That's him. The one with the abs. It wasn't me.
Did you go shopping for like linens and stuff before you went? Or did you already have your kind of, yeah, do you already own linens like the rest of us? Yeah, I upped my linen game because it was muggy as fuck. You had to have the linens and things. Linens are the shit, man. Is that where you went, linens and things? I went linens and things. Yeah, it's nothing but bed sheets around my neck. Bro shops at Bed Bath & Beyond. Mm-hmm.
Just throw a pillowcase on and cut holes in it. No bullshit. I love Bed, Bath & Beyond. Are they fucking closing? I think it's kind of RIP, right? I heard they're done, bro. No, Linens and Thing is done. No, Anders. I heard BBB, BB&B. I think it's done. Oh, Bed, Bath & Beyond. Bed, Bath & Beyond is going to the Great Beyond? Yeah, it's bye-bye. Yeah. To the Beyond? It's bye-bye.
That's what I just heard from my grandma. My grandma just told me. Well, that's a bummer because they have like everything. Like you can get fucking toothpaste holders, back rubbers, Australian licorice. I know. I know, man. It's a huge bummer. This is a big loss. Water trash. Dyson fans. Exactly. It's not big lots. Is that just because of Amazon? Amazon has ruined that because now everyone's just like, ah, fuck, I'll just get a. Okay, this is interesting. Yeah.
This is an interesting thing. This is a good first date question. We're like, what's your favorite Bed Bath & Beyond item? Go. Rugs, dude. I've never been inside of one. I don't know. I've never been in one. You've never been in a Bed Bath & Beyond? Nah. Get there. Oh my. Get there, brother. You've got to go before they close. Dude, get there. And live stream it, please. This is con.
Okay, what should I get when I go there? What's the beyond section about? Dude, you'll see. You're going to be so overwhelmed. You're going to be like, do I need new pillows? Do I need plates? As long as it hasn't been picked over. Well, I can't even go to the grocery store because, like I said just a minute ago, I like to smoke a little weed and then run my errands.
Okay. This is what I used to do all the time. I smoke weed and go to BB&B. And then you go there, and then you're there for like two hours, and you realize you just bought Greek yogurt and nothing that you actually came there for, and you're like, well, what the fuck? No, you're not going to have that issue at Bed Bath & Beyond because 98% of the stuff that's on the shelves, you need. Yeah, yeah. That's a hungry thing. It's as simple as that. Yeah, that's true. Hungry thing is Adam's nickname. That's my guy, Hungry Thing. They call me the Hungry Thing.
Gobble, gobble, bitch. I'm living in a nightmare. You got to go to Bed Bath & Beyond. You got to go before it's gone, dude. You have to experience it. I think it's probably been pretty picked over, though, don't you think? If they've announced it and they're not resupplying, it's probably picked over. Yo, no bullshit. I went to one right after the MyPillowGuy controversy. I don't even know what the fuck it was. Yeah. But they were selling the pillows for 99 cents, and I was there looking for pillows, and I was like, swoop, swoop, swoop.
Or maybe it was 199. It was something hilarious. They were liquidating. So what was the controversy there? The controversy was just he was a Trump guy? Yeah, I don't even know what his deal was. He went lunatic. He went lunatic. He was selling a cure to COVID, I think. Oh, okay.
He knows pillows and cures to COVID. Something along those lines. Something for COVID that either prevented it or helped you after you got it that wasn't proved and they went on CNN and was like, well, this is what happens on CNN. I can't wait for the guys to crawl in our DM and be like, it actually fucking works. And how about you quit spreading misinformation? Water trash. It's called my vaccine. Yeah.
This is interesting. This is an interesting thing. Bed Bath & Beyonce, baby. Oh, that's a title. That's our title. But I should have gotten a pillow because they must be good. Everybody likes the pillows. Or are they buying them because they're just like, this is Christian or what the fuck. I don't know. Because the dude rocks a nice cross hanging off the neck at the commercials. He does. Yeah, he's for sure. He's got that Christian energy, which we rock with over here for sure. Over where? Where are you? Where?
Right here, bro. Out of my household. If everybody could turn it down, I'd like to talk to Jesus Christ right now. My Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Thank you for the sacrifice, brother.
All right, turn it up. Okay. I don't like being left alone with Jesus. Yeah. That was scary. That was scary. I don't like being left alone with Jesus. Blake, real question. Since you just said that you rock with Jesus so hard, when was the last time you went to church? Ooh, this is interesting. Oh, man. I hate that question. I hate that question because I feel bad. I feel bad, man. It's been a minute. I would like to attend. In a minute. I would like to attend. In a minute. What day would you go? Random day or holiday? How long is a minute? A minute.
in your household that really fucks with Jesus? How long is one minute? Shit. Last time I went to fucking church. Damn. Also calling it fucking church. Damn, fuck. There's something happening here. How hard are you rocking with Jesus? How hard are you really rocking with Jesus in your household? And how long is one minute? I'm really trying to remember the last time I went to church.
Is Jesus like skateboarding for you where it's like really part of your life but also kind of not at all? Hey, man. Yeah, also sort of not at all. You want people to think. You want people to think. It's more of an identity thing. Yeah. Jesus was a skater. Jesus was the first skateboarder, okay? Yeah.
Christ there, you didn't play Tony Hawk? Come on, man. True. Yeah, no, it's been a long time for me too. But I didn't say that I'm like really fucking with Jesus that hard. No, you didn't. I didn't say that. We almost went this year for Christmas. Why? Just for like the ritual. Yeah. Oh, the ritual.
But you're Nordic, dude. You're supposed to be like, don't you worship pagan gods and shit? Don't worry. I would have been drawing in the Bible or some shit. You know how they got those little pencils? Yeah, the tiny little golf pencils. All I used to do in church was just take those little pencils and then in the columns on the side of the Bible, I would just draw guys with eyeballs hanging out. Dude, my mom used to clean the church. Because my mom cleaned homes and stuff when I was a kid. And she got the gig online.
of cleaning the church. The house of God. Dude, the amount of weird shit that you would find, like full- Used condoms? Yeah, tons of used condoms. No, we found like full bags of Doritos and shit and Funyuns, like full bags. That's not that weird. Were you helping your mom?
Yeah, I'd help my mom quite a bit. Right. That's cool. Yeah, she paid me, but I'm not doing this to be nice, homie. Dude, I love how he's like, I actually paid her. I turned into a business. She worked for me after a couple months. She actually paid me in Doritos. But yeah, it was like crazy the amount of shit that you would find and like full on sketches like a kid you could tell just like wasn't going to sit at church unless he could draw or like. Well, they had
little at my church they had like note cards and name tags so you could spend a whole like service like working on your name tag right so it's a very corporate type church that you went to yeah it was just like hello my name is hello my name is I think it's for new members right you hope to not wear one every time my name is did you write Slim Shady please tell me you wrote Slim Shady I think I was out of the church by the time I would have thought about that my first communion name was my name is Jonas
What does that mean? Wait, what is First Communion's name? That's a Weezer reference. That was Weezer. Oh, you guys aren't Catholic. You don't fuck with Jesus like I do. Like how Catholics fuck with Jesus. Hey, fuck off, bro. You're going to hell now? No, I don't. Yeah, First Communion, I don't know. It's some shit we had to take a bunch of classes and then you have to be confirmed in the eyes of the Lord.
And so, by the way, my mom taught these classes. My mom doesn't know shit about the Bible, nor did she study up. She just like did the classes and then would be like, I'll read this part. And then none of us would read it. Your mom is definitely just like, if you just be nice and you're getting into heaven. Just, yeah, just be nice to each other. And was this like sixth grade? Oh,
I wanted to say it was a little bit late. Yeah, maybe seventh grade. Yeah. Seventh grade like that? Because I feel like I got confirmed because they were like, you know, this is the year you get confirmed. And I was still going to like. Were you Catholic? No, but it was, I don't know. It was something. I think they were fucking around with confirmation. First communion? That's Catholic. What's first communion? First communion is second grade. And that is, yeah, that's when you're. That's Catholicism. I just remember being like, all right, well, let's get it over with. I'll go first.
and like had to speak at the church like in front of everybody. And then like everybody afterwards was like, essentially like welcome aboard. And then none of the other kids did it after me. And I was like,
I thought we had to do this. Yeah. Welcome aboard. What the fuck is going on? Well, I mean, it doesn't, if you didn't grow up Catholic, I don't think you had to do it. I think you just assumed that you had to do it. I don't know. The Sunday school teachers, I think, were like, okay, so this is the year you sign up here. And I was like. You're like, oh, fine. All right, dude. Whatever. Yeah. First is the worst. This is interesting. Yeah.
Now this is an interesting thing. This is a good first date question. What was your first communion name? But I don't have a name. So you had a name? You have a... Yeah, you have like your... Why do you have to pick a name? Huge asshole. Because that's your name. I don't know. I don't know anything about it. Because my mom was the teacher. We didn't learn anything.
Barry McCockner. I just picked my name is Jonas from that Weezer song. My name is Jonas. Right. That's tight. I'm assuming maybe like that's the name when you get to heaven, like there's a book and then they look up your communion name and they're like, my name is Jonas. You're good, bro. Get in here. Next to the sweater song, Blake. My name is Jonas, not just Jonas. Yeah, come on in. You're confirmed. Confirmed.
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I remember when I was a little kid, like, as a young Catholic boy, we had to confess. Oh, go ahead, yeah. And I confessed that I didn't really, I was having a hard time believing. Oh, shit. And the priest just goes, yeah, just do it, just fake it. And he told me to fake it. And I'm like, what? And he goes, yeah, just fake it, and the longer you fake it, you'll end up believing.
And I'm like, oh. And I remember thinking like, that makes total sense, by the way. I mean, yeah, but like that's shitty advice. Yeah, that's how that gets us into a lot of trouble, dude. Fake it till you make it. Yeah, that's just shitty advice. That makes total sense. It makes total sense. It's great advice if you don't like, that's great advice. Essentially, that is how it works. You just sort of like go, your parents make you go until one day you're like, yeah, I've been going for so long. I know no other ways. I'm in.
Let's get it tatted. And what was he faking? What was he faking? I don't know.
What are you doing? Do you love him? What is this, 2020? What kind of mask was he wearing? He's like, what you do is you just pretend you're not the person you really are. And you just march on through. Deep down who you really are. Wipe your chin and go back, okay? I'll see you out there. Oh, come on. Come on, Anders. Slow blow, dude. Slow blow. You're confirmed. Don't you dare ever say that again. That is true. And you're confirmed.
And you've been confirmed, bitch. And you've been confirmed. You know what I am actually pretty mad about? What? Is that I have not attended a church in Los Angeles. I bet it's way different than where we came from. Dude, I know it's different. Dude, you've never been to a church? I've been to church with your homie Teddy multiple times. In L.A.? Thank you, God! Where did you do that? In L.A.? Yeah, what the hell? Yeah, when we all lived together. Really? Teddy would go to church? Yeah.
Yeah. I didn't know that. The plot thickens. Why didn't y'all tell us? We went, I think, on Easter at least once. I want to say we went twice. Cool. In one day? What the fuck?
No, several years. You know, a year apart or whatever on Easter. Well, you weren't specific. You weren't specific. Yeah, they gave out crackers, bro. They were hungry. They gave out crackers. Yeah, all the crackers, all that juice. Yeah. Gooey, gooey. Hella juice. Get some juice on your chin. Adam, do you remember where you guys went in L.A.? If that was in L.A.? I don't. I don't. Oh, okay. It wasn't one of those like Hollywood ones where I bet there's so many chicks at them. Was it Mosaic? No, dude, I drive past Mosaic.
All the time because I live right over there. Which one's Mosaic? Mosaic is like the cool one on Hollywood and La Brea. It's a cool church.
Yeah, they like put up a big-ass Christmas tree and shit and like people take selfies in front of it a huge Christmas tree There's billboards for it. It's everyone there looks just kind of hot as fuck like just hot as hot It's essentially everybody fresh off the boat from wherever they move from and they're like I'm an actor I'm here. I'm come we're mixing it up. Yeah. Yeah Okay, it's a fuck fest
It's right across the street from the acting school, Leslie Kahn. That's right. Shout out to Leslie Kahn. Hollywood Minute. We used to be able to park over there, right? That's where you'd park for Leslie Kahn? That's right. Durs, Adam, you both did acting classes, right? Yeah, I keep saying her name. It's weird you even have to ask. You can't tell? Yeah, you can't tell?
Yeah, yeah. I noticed that you didn't take acting classes, Blake. It's a certain caliber that comes out of Leslie Cohen. It's a bagel. Ow.
I'm real as it gets, bro. I can't act. I can't act. I can only be real, brother. Here's what you do. Just pretend, and then you'll believe. Leslie Kahn was pretty... Hollywood Minute. It was cool. It was cool because you ended up knowing people from those classes that still work today. Like, I met... Well, I knew Eric Andre before, but we got to know each other really well from doing those acting classes. Yeah. I mean, dude...
Eric Andre is one of the best actors I've ever met in my life. That's right. You're damn right. Yeah. You know who was in my acting class? And I'm going to fuck up his name because I don't know if it was the first name or the last name or the last name or the first name. Do you love him? Farnsworth Bentley. Oh, shit. What did you say?
I didn't hear. Farnsworth Bentley. I think it's Farnsworth. Is it? Whatever. Farnsworth Bentley. Wait, is that the guy that used to hold the umbrella for Diddy? Yeah. He would come over to my apartment and we'd run lines with three other people from the class or whatever because that's the whole thing. You've got to rehearse every day. That was the annoying part of the classes. I mean, I get it because it's repetition and it's getting you better, but
It was one class once a week for like three hours or something. And then... $300. Goddamn. And then you had to rehearse with at least three or four members of your class these scenes every day. Yeah. You would have to go to somebody else's house and rehearse. You found out real quick...
who was rich, right? Right, right, right. Oh, dude, that was the coolest part. You'd go over to somebody's house and you're like, what? And they're like, my husband is on some show. I remember we went to this house in the Hollywood Hills and I was like, whoa, whoa, wait, whoa. Yeah. What's up with that guy? And they're like, can you chill? Yeah, like always. Your dad is Kevin Costner? And they were serving their kids
Which I know that you guys do this because you guys are cool California people and, you know, we've been here for 25 years and I bet I will do this too now. But at the time, I was in shock that they were serving their, it was like dinner time and their kids were around and they served them sushi. Right. And I was like, what world are we living in that these children are not even, they're eating sushi but also liking it. Right, right. If you would have given me... Bro, my mom still hasn't had sushi. Right.
Yeah, really? My dad still hasn't had a fish taco. Holding it down. Would you look at that? Incredible. My dad finally, he's never liked it any time, but he never really tries. He only eats the tempura shit. And then we went to a really nice Sanchigo in Newport Beach. And it's a very nice sushi place. It's kind of a hole in the wall, but they're fantastic. It's like top notch. That's always the case. And then my dad was like,
actually, for uncooked fish, that wasn't half bad. All right. I'm like, yeah, I know. It's not bad. You're right. It's really good. Has he ever had just like, what is it, spicy tuna on like the sticky rice things? Like that's like eating a cheeseburger. Oh, yeah. That's the entry point right there. I love spicy tuna, baby. Well, we get them all the like, like Blake is still there, right? Or do you fuck with him? He brings his own hot dog. He might.
Microwaves, hot dogs. Teriyaki. Teriyaki only, bro. For years you were a teriyaki chicken bowl guy forever. And then you're a California roll guy forever. Are you beyond that? And then it's the Philly roll.
The filling roll with the cream cheese? Yuck. So gross. Oh, God. That stuff is nasty. Oh, the big boy. Yeah, I don't like those big boys. So what are you now? Are you beyond that? How's them taste buds tickling? Yeah, I mean, I can do anything except for uni. I don't eat uni. Is that what it's called? Okay. What's uni? I'm with that. Is that the brown paste? Yeah. The brownish orange paste? I think it is. No, it's urchin, I believe. Oh, yeah. I don't like the urchin or the eels. It's not a paste. I think it's a...
It's an urchin. But what's the brown orangish paste? I think that is uni. That's unari. That's inari, I think. Right? No, I think it is uni. I think it's nasty. It's not a paste. I think it's urchin. I don't think it's a paste. How are you not going to give me points on nasty? Come on, dude. Sorry, I fell asleep at the wheel. Yeah, it is the brown paste. Uni is the brown paste. I just looked it up.
that we're talking about like the brownish orangish paste and uni is actually the sex organ that produces rose sometimes referred as the gonads no sir i don't like it corals that is correct yeah i don't fuck with that yeah no i don't fuck with that i don't fuck with you know what i've started to fuck with those little orange balls okay that's that's row right
What is that? Yeah, that's the roe. Yeah, that's a little salt bomb. It's caviar. That's what I thought it was. It's caviar. I thought they were eggs. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Because this might be on some dumb shit. But I think caviar... It might be interesting, though. It's interesting. I think caviar is a very specific fish egg. This...
That's an interesting thing. I think it has to be like salmon egg to be caviar or something. I could be totally wrong. I don't think so. Yeah, I think caviar is just fish eggs. Because they describe the different kinds of caviar. Oh, they're saying it's a sturgeon egg. Sturgeon egg.
Is caviar. Anything else is roe. Oh, okay. I got you. Anything else is roe. Only caviar? But don't they call it like... His mind is blown. His mind is blown. No, man. I'm on some smart shit right now. I'm on some smart shit. I've heard caviar described like something like blue.
something caviar. Well, that would probably be blue sturgeon. But it must be a type of sturgeon. Maybe it's a grade. Beluga? Beluga caviar? Beluga. Belugas are whales. B-E-L-U-G-A. No, I don't think belugas... Yeah, that's a mammal, bro. Right? Yeah, a whale's a mammal, playboy. Yes. Dude, suck my dick.
Yes. They're very smart. Hey, dude, suck my dick. A whale is a beluga. Yeah. Can somebody go to isabelugamamal.com? A beluga is a mammal. Playboy. You are so dumb. It's science. Baby beluga in the deep blue sea. What a banger, by the way. Yeah. Is that Raffy? Do you guys fuck with hand rolls? I fuck with hand rolls. Yeah. I don't. Dude, I'm just starting to fuck with hand rolls. I love them.
Oh yeah, dude. Do you guys ever just get the omakase? That's what you do to... Wow, look at him go. Look at him go. That's what you do to expand your palate so you're not just ordering the same shit every time. Okay, Mr. Indonesia over here. What up? That's not Japanese. Yeah, not Japanese at all. Very, very different. He's just worldly. He's worldly. But
omakase. Omakase. They just give you what they want to give you. Yeah. Yes, that's the way you do it at a hand roll shop. I like doing it that way where it's like you give me... That's what I do at McDonald's. I'm like, yo, whatever you want to give me, let me get it, bro. It's called the omakase. Thank you. That's points. That's points. Yes, points. Worth giving it. Let me get the omakase and they'd be like, they give you the apple pie. So Adam, when you do omakase...
Apple pie is delicious. When you do the omakase and you get something that you don't love, you just power through. Yeah. Well, then they only give you one piece of it. Right. That's what I'm saying. Then you just say like – Well, you could tell them like, yo, I don't – I have a sushi spot that I go to regularly. Right. And then you see the same guy all the time. Oh, he's the homie. And so you just –
you say like, yo, I don't like this one. Right. And then the next time he does the, you're on Makasi. It, he won't, they're so good at remembering. They just won't put that. They got a memory. Right. But is that, that is that still on Makasi then if it's,
No, now it's kind of... Now it's tailored to you. Well, yeah, no, they sort of steer the ship because they still do other... They try other things, but they're sort of tailoring it. No, no, I know, but you know... It's like if you had a dietary restriction, right? It's like same... But the idea, the fundamental idea of it, of being like, you give me what you want. Yeah. But I don't like eel. I'll tell them. Yeah, maybe not. I hope radio. I think, Adam, I think if you want it your way, you need to go to...
if you want it your way you need to go to what's he leading you don't have any more oh yes i do so yeah if you want it your way i think that you need to go everyone what the fuck you kept going wait
You didn't even get to the BK? Like, what the fuck is that? You guys have been talking about this for... I don't know. Don't you watch football? Adam, how have you avoided it? How have you avoided it? You don't know the BK Burger King commercial. I don't know. No, can I tell you guys something embarrassing?
I haven't watched one game of football. Good job, Adam. Oh, God. You just lost your man card. I don't care. I just don't care. Yeah. I don't care. That's good. That's dope. That's good. No, I'll sign up. Yeah, fuck football. Football sucks. I hate football. Football sucks. Football sucks. I've been watching a lot of movies lately and playing a lot of video games. Right. It's the video games. That's your screen time. Movies are bad.
Yeah, but I'm still powering through. There's still good movies that exist on all these streamers. I don't know. I don't know. That you haven't seen. I'm about to. And shows. I'm watching Blackbird right now, which admittedly not at all football. Yeah, come on, bro. But I'm like a little jealous. I'm trying not to drink right now because I saw those photos of me in Indonesia and I'm like, Jesus Christ, rain it in. A little hamburger helper. Dude, dry January is over. Dry January is over.
baby. Yeah, but I didn't do dry January. He's doing a dry Feb. It's the shortest month. And I'm not doing dry February. No, he's not. No, he's not. He's got to be the fucking Bacchus New Orleans. I'm going to be the king of New Orleans. Oh, right. Yeah. So you just need to just dry out. Thank you, God.
Oh, so he's getting photo ready for that. I'm going to not drink until New Orleans and then I'm letting it all go. All right. Hard 12 days. That should go well. Hey, you should taper up a little bit to that though, Adam. I'm just going to, as a friend. Yeah, Adam, you got to rev. You got to rev. As a friend, you should taper. Hey,
My body's built to process vodka, so I'm going to be fine. No, taper in, though, buddy. Come on. You know what I mean? Adam is going to be back on that tomato-only diet and on the fucking float, like, pass the fuck out. Taper in on that, because you're going to go hard. It's a bagel. Nah, dude. No, I'm telling you, my body...
I know you're good. I'm still going to send it. It's only two weeks. I got to say this stuff. I drank the other night with Anders. Mike Lovano's had a little thing, and we all got drunk. Oh, hell yeah. By the way, why weren't you there? Why weren't you there, guys? What are you talking about? Mikey. Wow. Kyle lives in a different place. Why wasn't I there? Why weren't you there? I think I just forgot it. When was this?
Yeah, good looking out. Cool friend. When was this? The other night, Mike Lovano's had a... He redid a New Year's Eve party at some bar downtown. That's fucking dope. It was cool. They had a very, very shitty personal family stuff. Oh, yes. We know. At the end of last year, leading into New Year's. So they were like, New Year's sucked. We're going to redo it. And they did it last Saturday. Oh, that's cool. That's dope. That's cool. By the way, when you... I don't know when you left, Adam. When I left...
There was a line of like 250 people waiting outside to get in. There was a line of when I got there, like 100 plus people. I was like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. What is this? What was going on? And this place is not big. It's like a bar. No. And it was cool. But I mean, it was like, it just must be the hot new spot. I liked it. It was fun. But I was like, God damn. Hmm.
It was fine. Yeah. It didn't have anything that was like, oh, shit, this is new, different, and better than any other bar. Yeah, it was just like a cool, it was just like a nice bar. It was a fun place to drink, but it wasn't like. People in line, they were like, was it awesome? Like, how is it in there? And I was like, honestly, there's a hundred people in front of you. You guys should get the fuck out of here now. Yeah, go find another spot. Yeah, you should go to another bar, though.
I never like waiting in lines. I don't like lines. But then the bummer is we got – obviously, we were drinking. We got good and drunk. There's a pizza place next door. We go next door. I was like, maybe just one slice. Right. I'm like, this doesn't tie together. And then they were like, oh, we've actually closed the kitchen. Yeah.
I was like, okay, good. We're out of here. Then the chef sees me and it was a big workaholics fan. And he's like, I'll fire some up for you. It'd be an honor. And I'm like, it's okay. And he goes, nah, sit down. I got you. Right. And then he made us, there's, uh, I think five or six of us total, six of us.
He made us six pizzas. And we sat there and just fucking handled Detroit style pizza. That's a dream to me. That's a dream. Oh, it's Detroit style? Oh, that's the best pizza. That's the best pizza. Oh, it was so good, dude. It was so good. That's a dream. And then Mikey's buddy, his rugby buddy, who has a fake testicle, pulled his testicle out at the dinner table and was showing us his fake testicle. And we're poking it with forks and stuff.
Like a nudicle? Wait, what? Yeah. Wait, what? He has like a fake- We're winding down and you're bringing this to the table? You were poking his- Yeah, he has a fake nut. He has a fake nut. And he pulls it out at the dinner table and we're all poking it with our fingers and with forks and stuff. Fingers cool. Forks. Then we start sucking it. And then the guy came over and was like, hey guys, I'm glad we're having fun here, but you can't pull your nuts out. Yeah. You can't.
Hey, Adam, bro, I love that I kept the shop open for you, made you six pizza. You can't be fucking stabbing a dude's testicles with a fork, bro. Hey, sorry to be a buzzkill, but you gotta go. Tight butthole, though. You're right in front of the window, my guy. What are you doing? I heard you guys talking about pulling nuts out on the pot. I didn't know you do it here in
my pizza place wow you really are that guy you really are that guy there's 200 people out there in line and that's another episode no apologies no take backs no compliments this is interesting let's see you next week yeah this is important yeah this is important this is interesting this is an interesting thing
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