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The Democrat who won in Trump country

2024/11/25
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Marie Gluesenkamp Perez: 我赢得选举是因为我关注当地社区的需求和价值观,而不是强加外部的议程。我反对一些民主党的政策,例如拜登的学贷减免计划,因为这些政策对我的选区影响不大,且属于累退性税收政策。我认为民主党应该重视工薪阶层和技术工人的价值,而不是仅仅关注学术成就。在国会投票时,我需要考虑其投票对全国的影响,而不仅仅是我的选区。我的职责是代表我的社区,并通过倾听所有人的意见来制定更好的政策。好的立法需要来自各行各业的人参与,而不是仅仅依靠少数人的观点。民主党不应该忽视民众的经济困境,而应该认真倾听他们的声音。民主党应该重视那些在生活中体现出环保意识的人,而不是仅仅关注那些精英人士。我认为民主党内部存在一种精英主义,他们选择的英雄人物并不总是正确的。我讲述了一个关于托儿所法规的例子,说明过度的监管会对普通民众造成负面影响。我提出了一项法案,旨在确保托儿所可以提供新鲜水果和蔬菜,这与党派立场无关,而是基于我作为母亲的经验。即使身为少数党,我仍然有计划提高效率,并致力于在国会取得成果。我会积极参与到法案的制定过程中,以确保法案能够反映我所在社区的价值观。我会努力寻找与其他党派共同点,以推动立法进程。 Sarah Binder: 少数党可以通过提高政治风险,吸引公众注意力,从而影响多数党的决策。少数党可以通过突出多数党的政策对民众的负面影响来争取公众支持。少数党可以通过提高政治风险,迫使多数党做出让步甚至放弃某些政策。在参议院,由于需要60票才能结束辩论,少数党可以利用这一点来阻挠多数党的立法进程。当前的党派政治比以往更加极化,党派立场往往成为决定投票的关键因素。过去,民主党和共和党内部都存在不同政治立场的派系,跨党派合作更为常见。尽管党派政治日益极化,但在一些特定领域,例如农业补贴等,仍然存在跨党派合作的可能性。少数党可以通过阻挠立法进程来影响多数党的议程。历史上,少数党曾利用阻挠策略来阻止民权立法。少数党可以通过阻挠立法,并同时争取公众支持来影响立法进程,例如民主党在奥巴马医改问题上所做的努力。即使是少数党,也可以在某些议题上与多数党合作,取得进展。少数党面临的挑战是如何突破媒体信息茧房,争取更多公众支持。

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Why did Marie Gluesenkamp Perez win in a traditionally Republican district?

She focused on local values and priorities, emphasizing her connection to the community as a tradesperson and rural resident, which resonated with the working class.

What is Marie Gluesenkamp Perez's background?

She ran an auto repair and machine shop with her husband, lives in unincorporated Skamania County, and has a three-year-old son. The county has a national forest and a population of about 12,000.

How does Marie Gluesenkamp Perez plan to navigate a Republican-majority Congress?

She aims to preemptively address bills by understanding her community's values and priorities, ensuring they are reflected in legislation, and working on amendments afterward.

Why did Marie Gluesenkamp Perez vote against Biden's student debt relief?

Her district held only 3% of federally issued debt, making the policy a regressive tax. She believes in consistent progressive tax strategies, not just when politically convenient.

What is Marie Gluesenkamp Perez's stance on child care regulations?

She introduced a bill to ensure childcare providers can serve fresh fruits and vegetables, addressing over-regulation that limits access to quality care in her county.

How does Marie Gluesenkamp Perez view the role of national office?

She believes her role is to represent her community's unique perspectives and values, contributing to better national policy by ensuring diverse voices are heard from the inception.

What historical examples show the minority party can still achieve significant outcomes?

Democrats in the minority successfully blocked George W. Bush's Social Security privatization and highlighted Trump's attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, raising public awareness and opposition.

How does the current political climate differ from past bipartisanship?

Today's partisanship is more reflexive, with less room for ideological diversity within parties. Historically, there were liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats, which is less common now.

What strategies can the minority party use to influence policy?

They can block majorities by raising public awareness and opposition, as seen with civil rights measures and Trump's healthcare repeal attempts. They can also find bipartisan common ground on specific issues.

Chapters
Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, a Democrat, won in a traditionally Republican district by focusing on local values and priorities, and by not playing partisan politics.
  • Marie Gluesenkamp Perez won in a district that went for Trump by seven points in 2016.
  • She emphasized her background in the trades and living in a rural community.
  • She voted against Biden's student debt relief, which led to protests and negative online reviews.

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US Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez was one of the few Democrats to win a swing district in the 2024 election. She explains what lessons Democrats can learn from her win and what she hopes to accomplish, even as a minority, in the 119th Congress.

This episode was produced by Victoria Chamberlin and Peter Balonon-Rosen, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Noel King.

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Representative Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, D-Wash., after her 2022 election. Photo by Bill Clark/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images.

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