Let's Just JUMP Right Into It (ft. Reina Scully) | Trash Taste #46
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- Welcome back to the Trash Taste Podcast. I'm your host. And unfortunately I'm hosting with a guest sometime now. - We've completely messed up the order now, haven't we? - I know. It used to be that Garnt was always the host. - I saw that, that it was notoriously always you. - Yeah, and none of them has aired yet, but like Joey's hosted the last two guests. So I'm sure like the subreddit is in anarchy right now. - It's like the metaverse has been destroyed. - And now it's my time to host.

- With the wonderful Raina Scully, of course. - The honor, thank you so much for having me. - Yay, yes. - It has been a fucking millennia since we all caught up with you. - It's been quite a while, well over two years between us, well over three years between us and never. - Yeah, I think I met you- - Oh, was that the first time for you? - Well, I met you very, very briefly, but you don't probably remember. - Uh-oh. - Oh no.

- At AX, but you were cosplaying as like Chun Li, I think. - Oh yeah, that sounds about right. - And you were like, I was like, oh hi, 'cause I was with Jerry. - That was the first time I met you, right? - No, that was two years after we met. - No one knows who anyone met. - We met in 2016. - Was it really? - Yeah. - Fuck. - I don't remember that. - It was crazy 'cause after we met, then we like randomly shot in Japan and I was like, I need to go buy a bunch of eroge and we were like, yeah, let's make a video.

- Oh yeah. - We spent like six hours in that one irrigate shop. - I think I remember watching this video. - I remember that video as well. - I made like an animated vlog about it. - Because it was too messed up. - Yeah, because otherwise it would have just been censor bars for 15 minutes. - I did that. I just had like mosaics the whole time. Like for seven minutes straight, it's just like us talking in mosaics and then like cutting really. - I mean, it's like being on a Zoom call in public now

with the filter behind you. It's like, "Hi everyone, here's the video." And everything is blowing. - 'Cause I remember watching that video. I remember thinking it looks like, you know one of those undercover cop videos where they bust the pedophile or something. You just sneakily going around the shop and you're like, "So much of an arrogant."

- So before we jump right into the deep end of content, I think Raina, you should probably introduce yourself to the audience who might not know who you are. - Yes, I don't really know what I do anymore because due to the pandemic, I had to like really kind of do different things than I normally do. But I do,

- I do YouTube. I'm normally a host for other channels like First We Feast. I have a show called Goji Gang where- - Right, I totally feel, you've literally like done everything I swear. I always saw you as like a YouTube jack of all trades. You were like always everywhere, always hosting something. - Thank you. - No, I'm being serious. - What the fuck?

I'm sorry. I'm filled with emotions. This is also the first time I've like collaborated physically with another person in a whole year. So like even like physical contact with another person is kind of intense for me. Oh my God. It's real. It's real. And we're speaking English. But, um,

But yeah, normally I'm a host and then I also do some voice work. I obviously do YouTube, but for now it's really just to kind of keep myself as relevant as possible until my hosting gigs come back. - Right. - Yeah. - 'Cause most of your hosting gigs are overseas, right? - Yeah, they're overseas. And also even like voicing stuff. I recently just did a couple Japanese voices for some video game companies here, but I had to record myself alone in my home.

and like I don't have any, yeah, like I had to use my own mixer and I was so scared. So even like, I don't even go to studios anymore. So again, this is very exciting. - I'm honored, thank you. - Well, I mean like, I guess like,

- How I found you and I think how a lot of people also know you is back in the day, you were on "Sauce Fan." - Yes, okay, yeah, that is definitely right. - That's what I mean, literally, Raina has done everything. Raina has been around forever doing online. - I completely forgot. - That's how I discovered you. - No, no, no, no. - You're like royalty. - It's actually an ongoing joke about how I'm 42.

I actually came on this podcast specifically to destroy. - Just to spell the rumors. - Yes, that's what I came here for. - Destroy people with facts and logic. - Yes, and I have to throw you under the bus. Last year. - Me? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two years ago when we were doing that Hanami thing, in one of the videos, you loudly and jokingly were like, "No, she's really 42, everybody believe me." And everyone believed you. And you had like the

- You had like the silliest look and you were just like running around, just like yelling and yet they all believed you. - They want the truth more. - It bothers me so much. Like as I get older and as I like approach that age and that like curve gets closer. - Well, it'll be right eventually, right? A broken clock is right two times a day, right? That's the saying. - People will watch that video next year and being like, well, she's actually 42 now.

- I like nodded at first, I was like, "Yeah, I like to yell, yeah." - No, but like, yeah. But like, I feel you're one of those like YouTube personalities where it's kind of like everyone knows who you are, but there isn't like a specific moment in time where people came to know you. You're one of those personalities where it's like,

I mean, if you watch YouTube a lot of the time. - She's hosting everything I like. - It's the kind of name and face where it's like, yeah, I've definitely seen you somewhere, but I can't pinpoint where. - Right, I can't place it. I get that a lot. - You've been involved in so many different projects and so many different channels as like the professional host that if anyone's in like the nerd industry, especially the anime industry, they've definitely seen your face around.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I worked really hard in the beginning. So to establish myself at SourceFed, they obviously wanted... They were ramping up to gain other hosts, and I was their third-generation host, and they definitely wanted to get into anime. And...

Before that I was translating anime for fansubs and for Crunchyroll. So I was like, I made sure I secured that professional angle so that I have like something to fall back on. Exactly. It's not just like, oh, like I promise I know what I'm talking about. It's like, no, I know the technical stuff so I can kind of delve into really strange things if I need to or things that people don't really reveal normally. So SourceFed was like the first big thing.

- Yeah, I would say so. - How did you get involved with that? - Yeah, and I'm also curious 'cause I'm sure the views are gonna be the same way. I know I've heard Sourcefed. All I know is that Philip DeFranco was jumping right into it back then with that. I don't really-- - I don't know fully what Sourcefed is. So maybe explain to the audience why you don't know what it is and how it became a thing. - Sure, sure. So Sourcefed was pretty, I'd say like,

OG YouTube where they started with this thing called 20 minutes or less and they'd have these really quick short segments where they would delve into news but make it really comedic because the original OG3 were comedians and they were very intellectual too so they knew how to mold the story into a very digestible but also like a funny way so they were really good at selecting stories and

they obviously purposefully did not choose like intense or like depressing things. And, uh, they really made a name for themselves. They left, they left the depressing shit to Philly D. At least Phil would like, like he has a lot, a little bit of a long form platform where he's able to talk about it. So it's not like dismissing it necessarily. So, but yeah. Um, and I think they were part of the original YouTube, uh,

where I think Phil was given startup money from YouTube to start up SourceFed. - Really? - Yeah, and that's how he kind of rag tag handled that, hired the three. - This is when the partnership program was just like really early days, right? - And very exclusive. - Where people were just like, oh, you can make money from being a YouTuber? What is going on? - This is like 2009, 2010, maybe.

- Damn. - Yeah, because I was an intern in 2012. Actually, that's how they found me. I moved to LA for fun and also I was like sick of the snow in New Jersey, that's where I grew up. And I auditioned for, well, no, I didn't audition. I got hired as one of their interns and I was like, I was Phil's intern as well. And he had me guest host, he had me guest host a sexy ladies segment.

- I remember when Phil would do that. - Well, I mean, it was for the thumbnails, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's like, that was the first time I was ever on camera. - How did this pitch come about? He's like, "Listen, Raina, I got a job that only you can do." - Did you apply for this? - No, I was just his intern. I was like getting him lunches and coffee

and I was just doing some research for metadata kind of thing. - Was it a thing where I don't want this to seem too misogynistic. Could you like spice it up a little bit? - That was actually exactly it. I can't even tell you how exact that was.

- I know you Phil. - Yo, yo, yo, Ashley, do you wanna host a new segment for us? - And it literally, like the segment was called, "Intern Raina brings in the sexy lady." - You can't make this shit up. - So that happened. - That's probably a pass that Phil kind of wants to like rush under the rug, right? - That is the most 2012 sounding title I've ever heard. - So that's when Phil started jumping right into it.

- I had to say Sup Nation, that's why it like rings in my head. But it was actually a lot of fun and Darren was the cameraman at the time and he was the producer and he was so good and he was like so professional and he really, I don't know, he like brought me into this new world of being not an intern but talking on camera and I was so nervous but it was just like so much fun and also he was talking about sexy ladies which I was like, yeah.

- I'll do that. - Could be talking about worse things. - The worst part about it though, was that it was this new fresh 18 girl who was being like, who was being, I guess like Googled before that, but she like just turned 18. So it's like, it's Leo and I had to like do that. Yeah. - YouTube 10 years ago was a different planet. - It's a different, yeah. And that was like monetized.

- Can only imagine. - It makes me feel sad that when you refer to SourceFed, you're like, oh, it's an OG YouTube channel. And I'm just like, oh shit, I guess it is, isn't it? Oh fuck. - You're an OG YouTube channel. - I've been following Phil since like close to when he started, right? So I remember when he announced SourceFed, I was like, ooh, what's this new venture that he's doing? It sounds exciting. And now that it's like now an OG dead channel that is just buried in people's memories.

That makes me feel a bit sad. I'm just having this realization live on camera. - I used to watch "Sauce Fed" a lot. - Oh my God. - Like fucking like, yeah, I used to watch it a lot. It was like, at one point I would say it's probably one of my favorite channels to watch. - Wow. - Just because it's like, again, it's like,

I watched "Philly Day" as well, obviously, for the news stuff. But it was also just like, it was edutainment. - Yes, that's, yes. - That was the big selling point for me. It was like, you get to learn some shit, but at the same time, you can have fun with these comedians. - Yeah. - And you kind of remember it because it's funny. I think that was also the other point of it. It's shareable because it's not dark and it's also funny, so it makes sense to put all over Facebook kind of thing.

Everybody wants to watch it and be entertained by it. So yeah, it was like a brilliant idea. And they started making other sub channels like Sourcefed Nerd. And then I ran their gaming channel, Super Panic Frenzy with Steven Suptic. And that was like my golden time, I'd say. That was when I was already finally comfortable being on camera. It was really fun. - Right. - And then I left for Crunchyroll. - So what made you leave?

was really heartbroken that they cancelled Super Panic Frenzy because on my gaming channel because we were hitting all the numbers like hard we were completely setting all the goals and at the time we were owned by Discovery Digital Networks and yeah and I remember that whole thing I remember SourceFed ending and then they tried to continue it under a different name yeah that was

bad that was um i think it's like a completely different company now but right when source fed like when discovery let go of source fed somebody tried to pick it up and kind of like almost zombie reanimated yeah like they took the same channel renamed it and hired different hosts to uh continue on this show as though yeah it was it felt very like

- It kind of felt like you went to a friend's house and there was just a stranger sitting there pretending to be your friend. - This is my house now. - Wait a minute, what's going on? I'm at Connor's house. - Welcome back Garnt. Good to see you back here. - It was like, hold on, that's not Connor, that's a Connor animatronic.

- That's so worrying, oh my God. I didn't follow any of the SourceFed stuff at all. I think on YouTube I was not watching that kind of stuff then. I think I was still watching like gameplay stuff. I was like exclusively in like Call of Duty walkthroughs or some stupid shit. - That's not stupid shit, I was into that too.

- I'm gonna talk about that too. - Can we talk about SourceFed Anime or whatever that, what was the anime show that you had on SourceFed? - Oh, SourceFed Animated, I think. Yeah, that was fantastic. We had Andre, this independent animator,

make animations of short clips from things like our podcasts and our table talks. And they were very good because he was very good. The animator did everything. He like really expanded the comedy. - Not sources animated. - Oh, Anime club. - Oh, Anime club. - Okay, sorry. I should have figured that out. - I know none of these stuff. - I should have figured that out. - It's William Haynes. - William Haynes.

- I remember when that came out. - Oh man. - I was like, shit, I'm gonna be out of this. - Yeah, actually, so Anime Club existed before me and Meg Turney was doing it. And she kind of did it like- - All these names sound so familiar, but quite like not quite, I don't have like a face to put. - Well, Meg Turney now is like a cosplayer.

Yeah. And she's like a sexy model. Yeah. And yeah, she's doing great. And we still keep in touch. I miss her a lot. She misses Japan. But yeah, so she started it. And I do believe they wanted to expand it. And it would obviously make sense if somebody who is

who has some kind of professional experience with anime was in it as well, on top of being Japanese. That's kind of a no-brainer there. So I was legitimately hired mainly to do that, to fill that role. And it was just when she was on her way out, so I basically replaced her. And yeah, and then Will and I took it over. But it was...

but it was really difficult 'cause the style was supposed to be that I was the so-called expert kind of teaching the novice. - Yeah, yeah. - He has all these questions, but they're so very left field that like I didn't know how to kind of bring it back. - Because I think, you know, all respect to Meg Turney, but you know, 'cause I remember when she was handling Anime Club, which was like season one of Anime Club, it's like,

- It started a lot of, let's say controversial opinions within the anime community. 'Cause I remember it was the first time where we saw like this kind of mainstream YouTuber try to like bring the anime culture to the wider mainstream audience. Nowadays it's like pretty, you know, pretty synonymous. - Every brand is like, "Hey, I like anime." - Everyone talks about anime now. - We at Arby's love anime. - Back then we had this like anime show that was like,

produced by, you know, Philly D or, you know, he had his name involved with SourceFed. And this was like the most mainstream anime had gotten to any YouTuber. And, you know, all my love to Meg.

- There was like some episodes where like some lines were said, well, I can't remember if it was her or like her guest host where they called like, I think they called Fullmetal Alchemist a shoujo anime. - I could feel like the unbridled grudge in you as you're talking like.

- You remember how anime fans were back in the day, right? They saw this medium as like a fucking holy ground. - I think it didn't help as well that the show itself was like probably the most well produced out of like any AniTube content at the time. So it just felt like, you know, like, yes, I do watch anime younger generation. - Yeah, 'cause I felt like it wasn't her fault. It was just the fault of just, I think the way the show was set up just wasn't the right way to like

really embrace the medium of anime or like introduce it to a new audience. But I'll say this, like what you and William did, you made like, it was a huge improvement, right? Because I feel like the chemistry was a lot better, but like what I wanted to ask is that,

Did you, going into this, did you know about all the negative feedback that you'd gotten from like anime, like anime fans? - As a translator, I was already pretty connected to a lot of different anime sites. So I was well aware, well, well aware isn't the right way to say it. I was aware, but putting it in a way

putting a face to the opinion is a whole nother world. And the backlash is quite scary. However, exactly how you said, I think people were quite excited about the improvement and there's very, there's a lot less you can criticize about,

like to a translator. - Yeah. - And also I'm like actually Japanese. So that like kind of mattered in their eyes as well. That's also like another creepy thing about anime fans, right? Like especially back in the day, there's like so much more nerd cred. If like you're actually Japanese, that means you can watch it

- I would argue that still exists. - No, it does, it does. Yeah, I was trying to be modest about it, but that mattered and I think that overrode any major, major criticisms. And also again, I was already in that sphere, so I was conscious of what to say, what not to say. If Will said something weird, I'd go to the producer and the editor and be like, "You gotta cut that out."

- I've always been curious because, you know, no disrespect to Meg. It felt like you did take a lot of the criticisms that they had gotten and really use that to improve the show. And I was wondering if it was like a conscious decision or- - Very conscious. - Okay. - Very conscious.

So it really was unfair to Meg because she was the only person in the entire building that even knew anything about Annie. The editors didn't know, so she had to source all the photos herself. I mean, granted, I did too after I took over, but there's no...

that oversaw what was correct or incorrect or knew the sub audience or like knew how to like hunt Reddit for it and stuff like that. So I came in and I kind of started from the backlog and I was, you know, due to the research, I knew everything that would make sense, would maybe hit, would be bad. Is Will gonna understand? Like that was also the other tether, right? Like you have to make sure that the novice character is going to be able to kind of follow it as well without having to use

- 'Cause I guess he needs to like channel people who are watching the video that don't know anything about it. - Right, right, right. But again, sometimes he was so random that it was hard to be like, "Nobody's thinking that." Don't ask that. - It sounds like before they just, it was just a situation where like the kid is like, oh, the teacher's like, "Oh, that one kid's good at computers. "He can fix everything." - That's exactly what it felt like. - Get him in. - That's exactly what it felt like. It felt like Meg just got put in there because she was the only one that knew anything about anime at all.

it's awful because it was such a passion project of hers and she wanted to do it as a fan, but you have to get technical. You have to. Especially if you don't have a producer and an editor that's going to fix it on your behalf after you're done. Like she wanted it to be opinionated and fun and what she likes. And that would have worked maybe now, but that was so not the case on a platform like SourceFed. So yeah,

- I feel like you were like, that idea was a few years ahead of its time. In terms of a talk show about anime that could really do well on YouTube now, I feel like back then it was just, there was no way, it was really hard to get new people into anime.

especially on YouTube. And a lot of the backlash you got were just from anime fans as being like, okay, no, we don't want this to be the representation of what anime fans are. And now I just think, man, we were, anime fans were pretty fucking toxic back then as well. - They still are. Love you guys, but we are. - I feel like early YouTube, they were like next level. - Well, yeah, because I think at that point, again, like it was like Garnt saying, right? I was like the Holy Grail, it was like this protected thing where it was like, it was theirs and it had been like tarnished.

I kind of understand that, though. Like, when I was younger and I was in Japanese school in New Jersey, when Pokemon came to the States, I was like, that's Arsh. Like, what are you doing? His name is Arsh? Like, you know what I mean? Like, even as a kid, like, I kind of understood that exclusivity thing. So I also, like, as an anime fan, I understood anime fans. And I actually, surprisingly, didn't get as much hate, especially...

throughout SourceFed, they were actually very happy that I existed. So I was super lucky there. Got a lot of hate and crunch, you rule. - I think it was just because it was so obvious that you were just a weeb through and through. - Yeah. - People just saw you and they were just like, okay, she is one of us.

- Yeah, you weren't trying to pretend to be a weeb. You were a weeb. - Yeah, a lot of the time with these company videos, there's so much of it is like, "Hi guys, we love the thing that you love, right? It's kind of wacky, huh? This thing's wacky too? Oh, you guys, this is so wacky." - "FMA, my favorite show, Joe." - "FML, this was a cringe moment, right guys?" - I wanted to give people the benefit of the doubt back then. And there was like that,

That thing that was in one show and I think the other thing was, one of them was talking about Baccano. And I think the guy who was new there, he said, "Oh, it kind of feels like a rip off to FMA, right? Because there's a Baccano set on a train and there's an episode of FMA set on a train." And even that, that was like the space bar moment for me as well.

- And I just think you did such a good job because this is the environment that you came into to have to prove people that, okay, there is an actual big improvement to this show and you did a great job. - Does that video still exist on YouTube? - Sorry? - Does that video still exist on YouTube? - I think season one of Anime Club is not on YouTube anymore.

- So like Train to Busan, it's a little bit of a rip off of Hogwarts because they're both on a train. - So unfortunately you're just gonna have to take my word, but anyone who watched SourceFed back in the day in the anime community knows that that was like shared around. - Yeah, yeah. - Right. - So I'm trying to build up the timeline in my head. So you're in SourceFed for how long? - I was there for, damn, let's see, I was an intern first, which was 2012. I was a,

- I was the actual host in 2014. I was there for two years, but it, no, I was there for three years, but it felt like much longer. - Well, it sounds like a really important part of like the career. - Absolutely, yeah. And I also did a lot of things with them afterwards. So it kind of really did feel much longer than that. - Yeah. - And so the reason why you left is obviously 'cause they just get wiped.

- Well, I left before that. - Oh, okay, okay. - Yeah, so yeah, this is such a strange thing. I never talked about it before, but my everything went into our gaming channel, me and Steven Subtics. And we were doing so well, and then they canceled it anyway. And I was so heartbroken. - Did they say what?

- They just said that there was no budget for it, which is such a, I know. - To let's play? Like why? Like they buy the game on Steam. - Yeah, I know, it's crazy. - We don't have $10 for the Steam game. - But I must say, Subtik did spend over two grand on CS:GO cases once using the company card and we wrote it off and it was like, okay, that's their fault.

- That's hilarious. That is such an epic game of movie. - Yeah, and he got like the fucking butterfly knife. So like whatever, but anyway. Well, yeah, they said there was no budget and there's like a lot of like production reasons behind it.

Then because the whole channel was dissolved and I was a OG host for that time, they brought me back into SourceFed Nerd and SourceFed Proper instead of outright laying me off. But they laid off Subtic and I was so weird about that, but I also needed money to survive in LA so there was not much I could do about it. And then when I left...

Soptic got hired again as like a source fed proper member. - What? - I know, I know, so strange, yeah. And that's when I kind of realized something was super, super wrong with the entirety of the company. Not that there's anything wrong with Steve, but you know, the fact that-- - Right, letting someone go and then bringing them back in later is really bizarre. - And then like, it almost felt like they were like trying to separate us so that we wouldn't try something on our own, but then we did. - Right. - But then we did, so I didn't learn.

But yeah, that was like a major thing. Also, you know, Discovery like owned our face and soul for X amount of years, according to our contract, because we were an ensemble cast. Yeah. So that was also, I'm suspecting that was also why they maybe wanted to keep us separate so that our faces wouldn't be together on another thing that we created. Right, right, right. Because you and Steve, I guess,

almost created like a brand for your own. - Yeah, we ended up like kind of doing that, which was amazing. But also I do think that that probably was dangerous for the company and for the shareholders maybe, but. - 'Cause the thing about, you know, big companies hiring YouTubers to do videos for the company is that the audience end up being loyal to the host and the personality because they're the heart and soul of the show. So even if they leave, you've already created a brand for yourself, right? - Right.

- Yeah, I mean, it's fucking pretty scummy that, you know, stuff like that has, you know, happens. - It sucks. Like now having been in the industry in many different ways, like as an independent YouTuber, as somebody that's hired by bigger companies, like it's,

entertainment media, new media, old media, it kind of can't be helped right now. I think it's starting to improve or maybe change in a way that's beneficial to independent creators, especially with YouTube and Twitch and everything like that. But it's still very difficult. Like the biggest chunk of money that's solid is definitely still in the hands of bigger companies. So that does definitely kind of sway. This episode is sponsored by ExpressVPN.

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I was a fan and I was just watching him and I was watching some of SourceFed and I was, what was I doing? Oh yeah, I was an apprentice pastry chef in New Jersey. Yeah, I know. After I graduated from college. Is that what you wanted to do though? This is so weird. I knew I was good at it. It sounds so pretentious. I don't mean it to be, but I knew I was good at it.

- I mean, you became an apprentice, right? So it makes sense. - Just own it, Reina. - I was fucking amazing. - I was like really good at it. I was making wedding cakes and I actually made Japan Airlines first class desserts for a year. - Damn. - Yeah, that was me. - Yeah, she was pretty fucking good at it. - Yeah, Jesus Christ.

So I was doing that, but I didn't like it because you have to go to work at 2 a.m., and then you're out at like...

like 12, 1 PM. But it's, I don't know. Like I got kind of depressed. I think not, not like actually depressed, but I was not well. That doesn't really leave you much time to do anything. You need to sleep. Right. So you try to sleep during the day, but that's, I don't know. Like I was younger. I was younger. And I was like, I want to like party and play and do all these things. So I don't think it was just, it made a lot of sense for me at the time. And, uh,

Then my now husband, but then roommate slash boyfriend. And I was like, let's just do something crazy. And we moved to LA and I just...

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mesmerized me as a fan being able to be on the opposite side of it and being the intern that like researches stuff and I do believe that there was a lot of like political stuff going on at the time so I was also re-educated which was really interesting for me having been out of college already I was like oh this is so much fun there's so much to learn and then Phil wanted me to be on camera and I was like no way you want me to bring in these sexy girls laughing

- I thought you'd never ask. - Yeah, I was like, I was here. That was my plan. - Wow. - Yeah, so I really started as a fan for lack of a better term. I wasn't like an obsessive fan, but there wasn't- - I mean, I don't think he would've hired you if you were an obsessive fan. - I know, he would've like smelled it right away. - Smelt the danger. - So what came after "Sauce Fed" then?

After SourceFed, I went straight to Crunchyroll. - You were just given an offer or? - Yeah, I was given an offer. And I was actually given an offer while I was at SourceFed and I was like, "Oh no!" Nothing happened. But then after I left, we had like a clean break with SourceFed. They knew I was so distraught over the gaming. I was like, "No, no, no, no, please, we don't want you to like go postal, so just like leave." So I went to Crunchyroll and it was actually,

A lot of fun, but I ended up shouldering a lot of the production. I thought it was going to be more like SourceFed where there's a crew and I would have some production say, but they hired me as talent slash producer. So I guess I should have been expecting more of that responsibility, but it was really ragtag and...

And, like, you know, what you were saying before, Garnt, about the anime community. Crunchyroll has a very aggressive anime community. Well, we know. Don't worry. And it's both a good thing and a bad thing because some people are fans of the company, not just want the company to do well, but then there are people that are, like, criticizing it, which makes sense, too. The company should do better, right? Like, there's a lot of kind of factors to it where you can't really get mad at the whole situation. And it was hard answering all of that.

Like it was hard to please that hole. - I feel like you got an impossible job. - Thank you so much, that means so much to me. Can you say it one more time so I can like lock it in? Just one more time. - You had an impossible job. - Oh, thank you. I needed that. - The words that she wants to hear. - Whisper the five words. - You don't even understand.

- Five words that make you do this. - I mean, you know, you were just like a martyr for Crunchyroll. Like, you know, every time I saw Crunchyroll videos, you know, I think 'cause everyone just has that air of skepticism towards Crunchyroll. - Of course, yeah. - And you know, we've worked with Crunchyroll, you know, and I think we've also been skeptical of Crunchyroll, but I think the viewers especially love dogging on Crunchyroll.

- I mean, Crunchyroll could have- - They're the boogeyman. - Yeah, Crunchyroll could have hired like fucking Jesus Christ. - Keanu Reeves. - Or Keanu Reeves. Same thing, right? And people would find problems with them. - I feel Crunchyroll fans, well not Crunchyroll fans, but Crunchyroll haters, quote unquote, kind of get a little too over obsessive with criticizing Crunchyroll to the point where it's like, okay, I get it. Like, yes, it's not a perfect company and they have a lot of stuff to work on.

but give him a fucking break. - That means a lot. - Like Jesus Christ. And especially like, again, it's like you had that impossible job of like, because all, I feel all of the arrows were like pointed towards you, right? Because you were literally the face. - Now they have a face. - Yeah, now they have a face and person to point at, right? And I just felt really fucking bad that you were at that point. - I know, I remember you lined me up

yeah just being like are you okay because like if i were you i would not be able to fucking handle that yeah i remember actually i very very specifically and vividly remember uh one of your messages where you're like hey are you and it was like so uh you were being so careful with me you're like are you okay like i saw the last video like it's not your fault i was like oh um you know what i'm not reading the comments anymore yeah yeah i'm like i think

- I was just like a warning call to be like, don't read the comments. - Yeah, I know. - Fucking hell. - And it was so weird 'cause I don't wanna mention specifically video, but they weren't even mad at me. It wasn't me that they were mad at. They were just mad at something else that was happening, which was ad related and they pushed it onto the video and then they kind of like turned into its own monster. - It was a sticky situation. - Yeah, and I'm like,

- It's the weirdest kind of hate to get as a content creator I feel. Where it's like, it's not your fault, but fuck you. - Yeah, they're like, I'm so sick of seeing your face every five seconds. Like while I'm watching Attack on Titan, I was like, I'm not even sorry. Like, I'm not even sorry. - Yeah, I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not even sorry. - I'm not

So yeah, that was interesting. But again, because they weren't really necessarily angry at me as a person, again, I had that veil of protection where I'm like...

Like it's okay. I hate my company that I work for and represent with my face, but yeah. - Yeah, I mean, another question I wanted to ask you as well is like, you've obviously done a lot of hosting and everything like that. It seems like you just kind of got thrown into it, you know, starting with Phil and Sourcefed. Did you ever go through any training or was it just something you learned on the job how to present? - I must say the internship taught me everything.

As an intern, you did so much. - Just like Ashley is back there. - I see him taking notes like,

You know, there's so much to be done. You're doing good, Ashley. You're doing good. Fantastic. Fantastic. He's just doing his uni work. I've got nothing to do. Never mind. But, you know, you had to do so much, especially back in the day. Like, I learned cameras. I learned audio. I learned editing. I learned research, metadata, everything. I learned how to backwards engineer, like, some of the algorithm because it was much simpler back in the day. And then I actually worked for an advertising slash gaming company for a little bit where they put me

on camera because they just needed somebody and I just happened to be a fast reader and I was good at reading the prompter so that's where I kind of got my practice so to speak but the

- The bread and butter of my technical knowledge definitely came from the internship. And then I got to practice being like a face and like talking on camera and doing pauses or reading really fast or making sure the video cuts at two minutes kind of thing. And then SourceFed came about and I just like knew what I was doing. - Yeah. - Yeah. - God, I wish I was as like natural as you. - No way. - Being a YouTuber for 13 years now, I still get a camera pointed in front of me. And if I don't have you guys next to me, I'm just like, ah, ah, ha.

- Hi guys, smash the like button. - I'm just so miserably fucking British. So like anytime I have to like fake being happy, everyone knows I'm not like that. Like when I'm like, yo guys, everyone's like, Connors, why are you faking it? - Your mouth is smiling. - Hi guys. - Not your eyes, say damn. - Let me tell you about this great show. And everyone's just like, why is Connors talking like that? - The trick is drinking like three Red Bulls beforehand.

- That doesn't sound sustainable. - No, it's not. You sweat through all your clothes, but it works. You can mimic that excitement. - The Reina Scully method. - Yeah, three Red Bulls. - Just destroy your heart. - Yeah. - That's how you do it. - But you'll look at the camera, just hide the armpits and you're good. - That's the same thing as just saying, you know what I do? Do a line of coke right before I start. - There's some people though, that when they smile, you're like, nice. And then there's people like me where it's like, whoa.

- I feel like when you smile on camera, it looks like a real person smiling. - Really? - What do you mean? You know what I mean? You just see someone, you're like, that looks like a real smile. And other people, you know when Garnt smiles too much, I'm like, what the fuck? But I feel like the same for me. When people see me smile, like what's going on? - There is a trick about like smiling with your eyes where you like kind of want to squint like this. - It's the these eyes. - Yes, yes. Yeah, that's why like you do that.

and then you put up- - Connor's like- - Connor, Connor. You look like someone's holding you at gunpoint. - I am, I am. - Smile, motherfucker, smile. - Hi guys. Welcome to Trash Taste. Connor here. - Everyone knows you're genuine. - If you just cut out like this half, it just looks like you don't-

- This is why I get it. I hate it when I live stream. I wish I was a VTuber sometimes, Max, because then people don't ask you, "You look tired, Connor." I always look fucking tired. - That's so rude. - You look angry, Connor. Like, yeah, I'm British. I'm always angry. My face is naturally angry. - To be fair though, like, you know, so many of your fans and even you yourself were like, "I have a really serious resting big face." - I do, I do. - I never noticed it up until you pointed that out. - I do that now. - Yeah, now I look at it, I'm like, it's, yeah, it is a little. - I don't know, maybe. - What do you think?

- I mean, I don't really think so, but that's because, you know, I watch your streams a lot. - Oh, get out of here. - Yeah, I'm really creepy. - You never told me, you literally just, right of walking into the studio, I watch your live streams and I'm like, how many? - Like, a lot. - What? That's so embarrassing. - Hey, you, come chill. - Just say something.

Oh my God. Yeah, why don't you tell me how you ran into here? Well, first of all, your chat's bananas, right? So like, I'm not gonna jump into that. But I don't know. I mean, I, you know what? I was discouraged by Joey. What? Because- Why am I always like- No, I watch all your streams, by the way. Because I'm creepy like that. But no, I watch yours quite often. But when you jumped on for like the first time in like maybe two months or something, and I was like, Aki-chan to kamino ke sokuri de kawaii. And you answered.

- In Japanese. - I didn't realize it was me. And then I said something else like, not like I wanna play Smash Brothers or something. I said something gaming related and then you answered that too. And you didn't realize it was me. - No, it's because like, especially recently I've had people because every time, 'cause I kind of advertise my streams as like, I can also speak Japanese. - Yeah, yeah. - Right, so it's like,

- I thought I was helping you. - Every now and then, no, no, every now and then I get like maybe like five, per stream, maybe like five to 10, like full on Japanese people typing in my chat. And I always reply back in Japanese. I thought you were just one of those people. - You know what, I'm not even gonna lie. - Wait, is your screen name not Raina Scully? - It's Raina Scully.

I didn't read it. And what's funny is like, I know that about you, about like, you say like, you know, live from Tokyo and it's like Japanese and English, right? So I was like, oh, I bet he wants to talk Japanese. Yeah, of course I do. So I purposefully wrote in Japanese. You answered me for like five minutes.

- I didn't realize it was me. I think you answered me again. - I think I was like, I forgot what I was playing, but I was probably like really intensely into the game. So I was just- - You weren't playing a game. - I must've been tired. You weren't tired. - I must've obviously, you literally said Rain of Scarlet. - I didn't realize it was me. - Next time I'll say something. - Thank you. - You saw my cringy Japanese.

- No, I didn't see that. - Okay, thank God, thank God. - But I watched, you were really complaining about something in one of the streams and it was so funny. - What was I complaining? I complain about a lot of things, that's just me, I think. - I forgot what it was specifically, but I don't know, it was really funny. How do you make the camera zoom in like that when- - I can teach you that. - It's called a stream deck. - I'm so bad at this.

- So I've only ever streamed on behalf of a company. So I had like people taking care of it. - You were telling me the other day that you want to get into Twitch, right? - I really do. - I really do. - I mean, you could do it. - Easily. - You seem like your personality style is like made for Twitch, I'll be honest. - Oh my God, I really want to, but again, I've only ever streamed for other companies or other people. So I've never had to like,

do all the technical stuff myself. And I'm really afraid because once at SourceFed, we left the stream on and we didn't do anything, but it was just on for like hours.

Like overnight, like lights went dark and the camera was still on. - Oh my God. - They probably thought it was some like meta ARG or something like, oh my God, they're telling us something. - You know what, that would have been so cool, but no, we're not that clever. We're just dumb enough to leave the camera on. And like the whole thing was on, like streamed fully and stuff. And then when one of our editors went home, he was like,

- Like what the fuck? And then you like went back and turned it off. - It's pretty hard to do that. - I know. - Honestly. - Especially from your home, right? - Yeah, 'cause I mean like it's literally, because like it's your PC, you know it. When I'm done streaming, I'm probably gonna still be at the PC. So I'm probably gonna like look at, you know, so it's pretty. - No, I know, it's like an irrational fear. - We'll help you, we'll help you, we'll be fine. - Yeah, yeah, we'll help you. - Stop, oh my God, my heart.

I also realized that like on Twitch, it's so much more fun to watch people that are streaming with other people, co-streaming and playing a game together. And I'm like,

- No, not always. That's not true. - I feel it works both ways. - Friends are good. - I think like for half the people, for me, it kind of goes both ways. 'Cause it's like sometimes there are some people who watch Twitch streamers because they want to interact with the actual person. But if your favorite streamer is playing with another streamer or playing with another person,

most of the time they're not paying attention to the chat as often as if they're on their own. So they're like, well, what the fuck? Like I came all this way, I'm hanging out in the chat. I want your attention. - Acknowledgement. - Yeah, I want your acknowledgement. - Yeah, it's like, I think like once you do it, you stream enough, your chat will understand if you're playing with someone that you'll probably not be paying attention to the chat. - Right, right. And you'll like cultivate that audience. - Yeah, it's like 50/50 for me. If I'm playing alone, I read the chat. If I'm not, if I'm playing with someone else, I kind of ignore the chat.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I watched your stream with, I think it was Iron Mouse. - Oh yeah, yeah. - Oh yeah, I love that one, that was so much fun. - Iron Mouse is crazy, she's great though.

- Is there like anything you'd like want to do if you start doing Twitch? Like, do you wanna play games? Do you wanna just do like adjust chatting? - You know, I miss playing games. I miss playing games like for the purpose of being on camera. So I do, I probably 50/50. - Streams coming soon. - Oh my God, thank you. Yeah.

I think I just want a different platform than YouTube right now. That's really what it is. I'm a little bit sick of making YouTube videos. We all feel it. Don't be like, oh no. Like,

- It depends on how my morning goes. Some days I'm like, fuck, I don't wanna do this. - It also depends on the YouTube ideas. Some of them are literally just like, okay, here's the grind. I'm gonna just grind it out. Some projects you're excited for, but it very much depends. - Yeah, I think it really is just like a pandemic world thing.

make a lot of videos going out and going to Tokyo. Yeah. Joey like doing a bunch of things and with like my friends in Tokyo and I don't like I think streaming from or not streaming. I don't like shooting from my house because a I don't want to accidentally like reveal where I am exactly like I'm in the you know, I'm in the countryside. So it's a little bit hard to figure out where I am. But like just in case it's a little bit freaky and you know, you're like

I guess like your inspiration is kind of limited when you're just doing it from home by yourself. - Yeah, someone got very close to finding my, where I live right now. - Oh, what? - Did I tell you this? - No. - So like there was like a barcode that was like roughly like shown for like a second in one of my videos from one of the packages I opened. - Right, right. - And they went around like texting people being like, "I know where Connor lives."

And then what happened was that even though this barcode is barely visible somehow, you barely, it's in the background and somehow it's scanned. When you put the scanner to it. - That's what you meant?

I didn't understand that first. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - No way. - So like when you, 'cause when you get a Japanese package, I think any package, there's always a barcode on it. And this was like in the background of the shot and someone somehow scanned it. I have no idea how they got it like the fidelity high enough. - Like in hands. - Yeah, I have no idea. - I was thinking, they literally did the enhancement. - Because I found where it was and I was like, it didn't even work when I was doing it. So I don't understand how they managed to pull it off.

'Cause then they were going around sending me a screenshot, like I know where you live Connor. And then, so I looked at the thing and luckily Japan Post only told my postcode, which is still not good, but I was like, all right. - It's only a postcode. - I'm like, yeah, so I was like, all right, what are you gonna do? Come to this giant ass place with all these like 10 story apartments. - And knock on every door. - Yeah, I'm like, what are you gonna do? You gonna find my apartment? I'm like, I would gamble even if you found a building I lived in. I'm like, I'd still feel safe, honestly. I'm like, try to find the door, don't try and find the door.

- I was just kidding. But like, I mean, you know, it was very concerning. So be careful with barcodes. - Yeah, yeah. I had no idea that was a thing. - Fuck that person going around being like, this is so cool. I have Connor's address. - Don't be like that. - But it's whatever. I mean, I was like, all right, cool. You're a loser. Why would you see a barcode in the video and think, I'm gonna scan that. I'm gonna fucking try and scan that. - They love you. - That's why I love him so much. I must find out where he lives.

- I must dox him, that's how much I love him. - Yeah. - I probably have cockroaches in my apartment. Why would you wanna find out where I live? I don't know. - 'Cause he loves you and your cockroaches. - He knows everything about you, all of you. - God damn it. - That's so fucking creepy. - Yeah, it was, but. - Yeah, that sucks. - Yeah, but I mean, where you live though, it's probably really safe though. - It is, except we just had a stabbing.

- What? - First one in a hundred years or? - It never happened so it freaked everybody out. - Was this like national news? - It was definitely like, it was like Shizuoka, yeah. - Like professional. - Oh shit, I thought it was like. - Like Shizuoka news, yeah. And it makes no sense but then a whole week later he didn't get caught and everybody forgot.

So there's that. - Wow, okay. - But that's a misnomer. That's not a good representation of my like hometown. It's very lovely and quaint and wonderful. - It feels like where I grew up there. I remember when someone died when I was like 18, they were like, yeah, it's the first death in this area in like 25 years, like murder.

- Jesus. - It's a big deal when it normally doesn't happen. - Yeah, in like tiny towns. - That's the thing with like, especially like Japan, right? It's like, there's either no crime or like fucking- - Fucked. - Like World War III. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely, there's no like medium anywhere. But I'm also, you know, I lived in LA for like eight years where everybody was shot everywhere at all times. - I remember the first time- - Someone got stabbed? That's never happened in LA.

- I remember the first time I went to LA, it was the first anime expo I went to. And I remember like first morning I woke up in the hotel, right? And it's one of those like radio clocks. So like the alarm goes off, right? And then the radio starts playing, right? Being like, you know, it's- - As the alarm. - Yeah, as the alarm, right? And I thought that was really cool because like I'd only ever seen that in movies.

- Oh my. - So, 'cause like, you know, I was like, okay, you know what? Like this is a feature. I'm just gonna do it for this one morning and see if it's like, you know, cool or anything like, you know. 'Cause I don't know. I never had anything like that in Australia, right? Or Japan. So I was like, this might be cool. So like alarm goes off at like 8:00 AM or something. Radio starts up. It's like, it's a beautiful morning here in Los Angeles. Last night we had three shootings happening down in the downtown area, but it's a lovely summer day today. Have a good one everyone. I was like,

- I don't wanna go outside right now. - Mind the helicopters finding the suspects that are still at large. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, that happens. That's a real thing. There's always a helicopter shining like spotlights down everywhere at all times. - Yeah. - That was pretty. - Just trying to go to like 7-Eleven, your own personal spotlight. - Don't go to 7-Eleven. You don't do that. - That's where it all happens. - Yeah, that's where it happens. - I want a big gulp, geez. - You'll be the last thing

- It's Sloppy Thursday. - Is that a thing? - I mean, it sounds like that, right? - Thirsty Thur, oh, I don't know. - Thirsty Thursday or something like that. - Well, Thirsty Thursday is like a college thing where like everybody gets fucked up on Thursday and nobody goes to class on Friday. - So, sorry, going back to the whole career thing, what happened after Crunchyroll? I'm curious. - After Crunchyroll-- - Is that where you started your own YouTube channel? - Actually, I was kind of doing stuff on SourceFed because

because I felt like it was such a waste to not be doing something on my own. And in my head, I was like, eventually if I leave, like I'll have something to fall back on. - I think everyone at Sourcefit already had like their own main channels. - Yeah, yeah, they did. We were encouraged to do it to kind of like also solidify your brand as a on-camera host. - Oh, so they were helping you

- Did they build up a like a way to leave them? - Well, I don't think they realized it 'cause we actually had to sign over our channel in the beginning. - With your personal channels? - Yeah, we had to sign it over. - They owned that as well. - Just for like a normal paying job, like a wage, did you get any like buyout fee for that or any?

- I know, dark, I know. But I wasn't, I don't think I was a monetizable partner channel until like six months into SourceFed and then I started caring that like they were taking them. - I signed it off.

I was like, you're taking my money. But also monetization was different back in the day. There were no mid rules, right? So there was only like a pre-rule and barely. But also the money was way more. The CPM was way higher. So I was not happy. But because like, you know, I can't do what I did on Super Panic Frenzy on my own. I wouldn't be able to hire Suptic. Like that wouldn't be able to happen. I didn't have editors. So like I,

I knew kind of what the trade-off was and I was happy to be doing so. Also the security in being, you know, a hired host is much better. So I didn't mind, especially because I wouldn't be able to start my channel, I think from nothing without SourceFed. Very aware of that. So I was like,

- I think no one thinks they can, right? Like until you just make something you're like, oh shit, people wanna watch this. - Yeah, there's literally all three of us. - I think that's like phenomenal. I would not, I do not think I would have been able to do it. - Did any of you think I'm gonna make something? - None of us thought of YouTube channels as like,

- Give me a couple of years, I'm gonna be the shit. - I remember like when I uploaded my first YouTube video, after one day, it got five views and I was fucking ecstatic about it. - Mom, mom, mom! - I was like, holy shit, five people saw my bleach video? - Mom, you only refreshed it twice, right? That means three other people. - That is literally the back in the day where you had to be like, you had to account your own refreshing into the view count. Like you're like,

- I've got like a hundred views, but I've definitely killed at least 20 times. - And I showed this to 20 friends and my mom five times. That means there's 55 people out there who thought I was cool. - Isn't that such a wholesome concern where you have to like worry about your own views of how much you refresh them. And back when I used to like all my own videos, 'cause I was like, I need to up the likeage man. - Dude, I'll admit I still like my own video. - Do you? - Because it's like, dude, I fucking love this video. I made it.

- Of course I like this video. - Fucking Obama memes. - I literally give myself a medal every time I'm like, damn Joey, that's a fucking good video. - Joey uploads a video, hey. - Who's that guy? - He's just got a champagne shelf just for himself. Every video is like, Aki, pop in the champagne. - I'm the complete opposite, right? Because I don't like my own videos, but because Alan edits my videos, right? So sometimes there's a joke where he has to screenshot my own video and he always likes it. And I sometimes get comments being like,

"Oh, why did Gigguk likes his own fucking videos?" I mean, of course you do because you're proud of the video.

- You should be proud of the video. - You should be proud of the video. - Exactly. - I just feel like it's not my place to like. - You're your own account. You have the ability to like. - Brandon, I don't either. I only like ones where I collab with people. So if Joey and I do a video, I'll like that for myself. - So you want Joey to be like, "Joey, look at all these likes. "This is crazy. This is one more than normal." - Oh my God. - So sorry, you were saying about how you think you could do your own channel.

- Oh yeah, okay, so I've been doing it and then they gave it back to me because I think they were afraid for me or of me maybe when I left. - I mean, rightly so. - Companies aren't normally known for going back on contracts. - And kind of owning individuals.

That's kind of scary. - Actually, we had a new executive head person that undid all of that even before I left. 'Cause he was like, "That's fucked up. "These people, they would be fine." So he undid that and I left. It just worked out perfectly. The timing was good. And then I left, I did Crunchyroll. And that was when my own personal channel was doing quite well, probably because they wanted to hear me talk shit about SourceFed.

But also like I had like some nice people watching and they were like migrated over to my channel, which was really nice. And then, you know, I announced that I was going to Crunchyroll. So they're like, oh, like it's going to be even more anime centric or like we get to now hear her talk shit about Crunchyroll, I guess. So that's kind of the direction it went. - Reina Scarlet, why I left Crunchyroll. - Yeah, I mean, I...

- Honestly, why not? - I didn't, I didn't. - Why not? - Dude, I've seen those videos where it's why I left this company and the video's like, yeah, I was just kind of done. They're a nice company though, great guys, but yeah, I was done. And then it's like a million views. - 10 million views. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, you should have done that. - I mean, yeah, I should have. Crunchyroll was a little bit of a different breakup. It wasn't like aggressive or anything like that. It's just, I still wanted to work

adjacent around them and also because they're so deeply embedded in the Japanese anime community and I went to like every industry mixer thing that happened in Japan which was like really scary still I mean back in the day it was way scarier but

They knew me as a Japanese person and I did voice acting too already, so I didn't wanna damage anything. And I was afraid that even if it wasn't anything negative, if I did kind of like a why I left crunchy roll thing, then maybe companies would distrust me a little bit. - 'Cause you're openly talking about your experience. - Yeah, and you know Japanese companies totally frown upon that. So I was like, let me not talk about that at all ever again. And yeah, clean break. But then I was doing a lot of things with Rooster Teeth and Steve. - Oh my God, that's right.

- Oh yeah, that was a thing. - What haven't you done right now at this point? Just name, let's start naming companies you haven't worked for. - Well I think in the nerd world, I did corner the good ones, right? - Yeah, you did. - Gaming, anime, and then I'm just like, I don't know, I'm Asian. - Raina Scully, professional Asian. - Higher! - Skill set, Japanese. - You know it's a skill set, right? - Yeah, it really is. - It really is. But yeah, I feel like I cornered those markets really well to my advantage.

And yeah, so I was doing a lot of hosting and also like, you know, we had the podcast, the Boys Only Club podcast and stuff. And that was really doing well. Steve was doing really well with Sugar Pine 7. So I kind of was like, oh, we could totally do this independently. Like we don't need a company ever again. But yeah. And then I moved to Japan because I was like, I'm so sick of LA. Just too, like truly sick of LA. Yeah, LA is hard. LA seems very...

It is. Now that I've been out of it, and maybe I'm kind of like...

ex post facto from like maybe COVID, but I do miss LA. I miss visiting, I missed the hustle. It really is Neverland. Like I genuinely feel like I did not age when I was in LA and regardless of being there for eight years, it felt like I just got there all the time. And I don't know, it was like, it is fun if you can hit a sweet spot, which I did at one point, but once you lose that sweet spot in LA,

It's hard, it's expensive. Things are really stressful. - Definitely feels weird just going to LA and then just like kind of dipping your toes in that industry just for like two weeks and then being like, whoa, okay.

- Yeah. - Yeah, okay, this is a lot. - Like going to LA and doing anything like industry related there, I feel like, man, I feel like I've done a month's work of like networking and meeting people in that. - AX feels like a month. - Jesus Christ. - It does. - Yeah. - It does. - This episode is sponsored by Bokksu, an authentic Japanese snack box subscription that sends you small delicacies from Japan. - Salty, sweet,

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- It feels like longer. - It feels like you were here before I moved. Did you ever live in Japan before? - I was born here and then I was here until I was three. And then,

I would come back every summer and winter and I'd go to Japanese school during that time. I never had summers off, it's really sad. - Wait, so you had a holiday where you'd go on holiday and go to school on holiday? - Yes, it was, it's messed up. - That's Japan for you. - Yeah, that is Japan for you. - That's literally, son, you're gonna love this. I've booked you for another six weeks of school. You're gonna love it.

- In the end I would get like maybe two weeks of summer vacation, but like winter there's no school. - So when you're watching like Phineas and Ferb, right? And like talking about all these days of vacation, you're like, that's a fucking lie. - It was heartbreaking 'cause like I'd watch all these other cartoons that were like, oh, vacation. - Three months. - Summer camp blah, blah, blah.

- I was like, "Who has time to camp when I have to finish my math homework?" - I was like, "Wait, I have this congee test. Like I have four congee tests coming up. Like what's a break?" - So how long did you do that for? Until what age? - Until middle school.

until end of middle school. So I graduated middle school and then- 13? Yeah. And then when it came, when high school came around, my parents and I got together and they were like, do you want to go for a Japanese university or an American university? Like, where do you want to like end up? And at the time I was like, America, duh. Like, there's this boy I have a crush on. Like, I'm going to be his forever. So also like, I only,

only knew of Japan during the summer and winter so I was very conscious that like I don't know how to live in Japan yeah well yeah because you experienced the two extremes right yeah and I was like this isn't fun like well it was it was but um I was very aware that I I don't know how to live in Japan so and also my English was way more superior than my Japanese even after all that schooling

Maybe I'm just dumb, but yeah. So I decided I wanted to go to an American university. So that allowed me to drop all of my Japanese stuff because you know, in America, like you study for the SATs and you prepare really hard. So, so yeah, that's what happened. And then 20 years later, I moved back to Japan. Wow. Full circle. Yeah. I never ever in my life thought I would want to be living in Japan. Was it how you imagined it to be?

Well, you know, it sucks because the first year I moved, so I moved like towards the end of 2018, 2018 into end of 2019 was phenomenal. It's exactly how I envisioned it. Work was flowing in the way I needed it to and the way it made sense. I was going back and forth between the US and Japan, like doing hosting gigs here, here and there. So everything like kind of tied together in harmony. And

And then, you know, I keep bringing it up. Like I can't help it. COVID hit. And now everything is so dislodged. And again, like I said before, I'm just trying to stay relevant so that I can have that back. I can have that rhythm and harmony back. And so now it feels more like a trying to stay relevant catch up game. And, um,

it's a little bit weird, but I'm sure it's weird for everybody. Like it was a mess. It's been a mess of a time. - I feel like I've only had a collective like experience of moving here for about like four months. - I get it, yes. - Because that's the amount of time I've stayed here before COVID hit. So I don't really feel like my journey in Japan has like started. - I feel really bad for you guys honestly, because it's like, yeah, again, as you said, like you guys have been for almost two years now.

but it just feels like, I feel like you've barely gotten to experience what it's like. - I think I'm very lucky that I ended up in the one country where it wasn't affected too heavily. - We do have to appreciate that. - Obviously, it was kind of bad here, but we were able to keep doing this podcast. We were able to go outside. It was like, whereas in the UK, it was like, no one is allowed to leave your house at all. And they were really strict about it. So I was pretty glad. I feel like I kind of escaped. But then also on the other hand, it's like, I feel super isolated here.

It doesn't help with the time zones, it's completely different. So you barely get to talk to people on other time zones. - I think this is the first ever time I've ever felt homesick. And I don't normally feel like home homesick, but it was just more like, man, just not being able to see my family and my friends, that's different from knowing that I can see them whenever I like. - Of course, yeah.

- I feel that and this is technically my home. I haven't been able to see my family here for over a year now. - Really? - Yeah, just because we agreed as a family to not see each other until COVID was over. 'Cause last thing I wanna do is give my cousin COVID. That would be fucked. - I'm curious, was there any big reason or is it a turning point that made you think we're moving to Japan?

- Well, the timing factor is that I was just really sick of LA, but also during the year that I decided to move here, I was going back and forth to Japan a lot. And it made me miss, every time I came back, my wanting to live here. - Missed Japan. - Yeah, it would just get like deeper and intense. And then,

You know, I never grew up with my family at all. It was always like my parents are divorced and my mom raised me alone in a foreign country. It seems weird saying America is my foreign country, but it is. And like, I was never a citizen. I was an immigrant. I'm a green card holder in America. I'm a Japanese. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm like a hard Japanese national. Okay. Until I married my American husband, I was never actually an Asian American. So in a way I was like, I don't,

if I belong here, like I know I fake it and maybe that's like just kind of like worked its way into my actual personality. But I'm like, I like my Japanese soul wants to be with my family. And my cousin had her first baby and I was watching her grow up from LA and it like kind of broke my heart. Cause I'm like the new generation has started. Right. And I'm like, I can't even be there for that. Like I missed the previous generation. And like, you know, like my second cousins are my, one of them just graduated college and,

And I didn't get to watch her grow up when I used to babysit her when she was a baby and in the summers in between conju tests.

And I don't know, like as I aged, I really felt like I would be so angry at myself if I didn't take this opportunity right now to at least experience living in Japan as a Japanese person and being around my family. And then it actually did, like the timing was insane because COVID did happen. But then unfortunately my grandfather was like diagnosed with cancer, but I was there for him and that's all I wanted. Like it would have killed me. It would have killed me if I couldn't be here for them.

for them you know yeah and in a way like first of all like he was old as fuck like it's okay like he lived a full ass life and he smoked like a pack of cigarettes a day it's it's fine um like the

Like the fact that I got to be there and I don't have to feel like there was this big hole that I, you know, in my life again, because I lost my grandparents on my dad's side when I was younger and I was in college and I couldn't get out of college. I couldn't take time off to go see them. So that was like always such a huge stain in my life. And yeah, I was like, this makes so much sense. So yeah.

I feel really bad now 'cause I remember like as a kid, right? You'd go to your, you'd go to some family reunion and your parents, well, my parents would introduce me to like this uncle or something. And they'd be like, "Oh, I remember when you were just a little baby, I held you, I helped raise you up." And I was just like, Thanos. - Who are you? - Thanos, I don't even know who you are. Now that I've had like cousins who, you know, I've had kids and I've, you know,

and seeing them grow up as well. I know I'm going to say exactly the same thing. - You're gonna be that uncle. - I'm going to be that uncle now. And I know the kid is just gonna look at me the same way. - You're gonna be Uno reverse Carl. - You must have so much street cred with them there. 'Cause like my cousins and nephews, they all wanna be YouTubers. - Really? - Yeah, and they're all, yeah, I know, right? - It's adorable.

- That's why I'm really scared, 'cause my second cousin here, he just turned six or seven. So he's about to, he's in fucking elementary school now. - It's great, I love it. - And it's like all elementary school kids here in Japan want to be YouTubers. So I am dreading the day where he figures out that I'm a YouTuber. - No, it's great. - He hasn't figured it out? - He hasn't figured it out yet. - You're gonna be the cool uncle. - Yeah, dude, they love, they're like, "I've never met you before, who are you?" And I'm like, "Oh, he's a YouTuber, by the way."

- Who is he? - Paying attention now. - Which part of the family is he from again? Sorry. Did you play Fortnite as well by the way? - That's great, that's pretty funny. I don't know. They're just immediately like, "Hello, I'm paying attention." - Unfortunately, a lot of my nieces and nephews didn't take after me. A lot of them are just like jocks who love sports and stuff. And they're just, I'm just like, oh, okay. - Never get a dub, Ken. Never get a dub, man. Fuck. - God. - It's crazy though that all the kids wanna be YouTubers now.

- Was it like 35% of Japanese kids wanna be YouTubers? - More, more, more. - It's way more than that. - Yeah, 'cause I was Googling it for the UK as well, I got curious and there was like YouTuber wasn't on there, it was all like doctor, nurse, I mean, I'm like, that's bullshit. They didn't give these kids the prompt. Give them the prompt. Tell them they can be a YouTuber, I bet they'll do it.

- I don't know, it's like being a YouTuber still looked down upon in the UK 'cause I haven't been there for like a long time. - Is it looked down upon in America? Like would you say it is or is it kind of like, oh, that's neat. - I think it's neat. I think they claim it to be cool and neat. - Yeah. I mean, it's considered cool and neat here for the younger generation. - Right.

- Right. - But the older generation are like, that's not a job. - That's not a job. - There's still some of that in the UK, I think. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But the problem with that notion, especially in Japan, is that the old people who say that are the majority of the people who live here. So it's still considered like,

- Okay, yeah, I guess this is like the new generation job kind of thing, but we'll never fucking understand it. - In Japan, I'd say YouTubers receive cred when they go on national television, which it happens a lot in Japan. - I've noticed, yeah. - Yeah, the moment like "Hikakin" for example, the prime example, started going on the variety shows, that's when everybody's like, "Wow, that's amazing." And he edits his own videos, he works like 82 hours a week, and I'm like, "Bitch, that's awesome."

- That's all of us? - Yeah, I think from the surface level, it's easy to think, what a fucking bunch of weirdos. But when you actually see all the work and you can actually see that they're talented at what they do, I mean, not me, but you could really appreciate what's going into it. - It is hilarious though to see all these traditionalist Japanese TV presenters being like, wait, you're your own editor? And your own producer? And your own host? - Cameraman? - And your own cameraman?

- No, we don't believe that shit. - Can I just go on a quick tangent real quick about Japanese TV? 'Cause I was watching the other day. - Oh, please do. - So, you know the whole meme where they react to everything? - Yeah. - I didn't realize they react to everything. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So, it was really like, I think someone had died, some famous person. And I didn't realize they had a reaction cam for the fucking funeral. And I'm like,

And I'm sitting there and I'm thinking like, this is how uncomfortable would you be as the host? We're like, react, react to this guy's death. This guy's crying at the funeral react. And this is what's good. Like I was like, I was like, am I missing? Like, I don't wanna be rude to, you know, maybe I'm missing something, but I'm pretty sure there's nothing like, you know, the Japanese culture that is like, you should be reacting to it. - Oh no, no. - Like that's just weird. - I've been on Japanese TV multiple times. It is corrupt as fuck. - And like, I get where the reaction cam is there, but I think I was just thinking, I'm like, maybe you should like just,

- I've seen YouTubers get canceled for less. - Yeah, 'cause there's literally just a corner and there's a guy that's like, wow, it's just a funeral's playing. And I'm like,

I'm like, do my laundry. I'm like, what the fuck? What is it? What is this? It's a little odd, isn't it? Sorry, going on to a tangent. No, no. So much of Japanese television is really hypocritical to like the Japanese culture itself because like we pose ourselves to be so modest, right? And like private and all that stuff. But then it's like, oh, this person's crying. Zoom in on their face. But then it's like,

when you're shooting a Shazam, like when you're shooting like an interview or something outside, everything is mosaicked in the background. So you can't like know anything and without their consent or whatever, it's like, there's such a hypocrisy there. - Yeah, the whole like privacy law thing is just fucking ridiculous. Like I remember, oh my God, I fucking remember there was one prime example of like, it was like kind of like a panel like this, right? Like a host panel kind of thing. And I guess like one of them had like a water bottle

but the entire water bottle was blurred. - What? - But there was no logo on it. It was like the shape of the water bottle would insist that it's like a specific brand of water that's not sponsoring the show. - Oh, like the Kuro tea or something? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you know how like a lot of my water bottles is like, oh yeah, that's like a Pocari Sweat or that's like a whatever. So their option, blur out the entire fucking bottle. And I'm like, that just looks- - That would just stand out more.

- Exactly. - I can't figure out with Japanese TV why they're blowing some things and why they're not. 'Cause sometimes they'll show you shots where nothing's blurred and then the next shot- - It'll be blurred. - Everything's blurred and it like flips between, you know, and I can't figure it out 'cause it's not like in one shot there's branding stuff, but like there's branding, there's people like, and then it just completely cuts the complete opposite. And I can't figure out why it does it and it drives me fucking insane.

- Somebody's just slacking. - Yeah, I don't know. - They're like, dude, I'm not gonna sit down and mosaic three more scenes of this shit. - Dude, that, oh my God. - Frame by frame, you know? - And then adding in all of the fucking like subtitles and shit as well. Like I feel, dude, I feel bad for Japanese like TV editors. - Actually, I did something with Pokemon last year before the pandemic really went wild.

And they had me mosaic frame by frame every single person at a Lollaport.

- Why? - Every single person at the Pikachu parade. - Oh my God. - Every single man, woman, child, everyone, even the staffers, they had me mosaic. - Why not just mosaic the entire screen at that point? - I know, and just like, just cut out the Pikachu line that's like walking down. - It's like Pikachu cardboard cutouts. - I should have just done that. I'm like, it's the same thing, you guys, at the end of the day. But yeah, it was so messed up and it took hours and I'm making it sound like I did it, my husband did it.

- I made him do it. - I was slaving away watching my husband do the work. - I was waiting for him. - I was waiting for him, three Red Bulls. - I think we need more vlogs where people are wearing like the cones for dogs where you can just only see in the cone. Hey guys, I'm at a Disneyland today, just inside the cone. - Honestly, and it's like, I don't know why,

they do that for some scenes and they don't do that for others. 'Cause like there is never a moment on Japanese TV where like everything is blurred out that looks good. - Yeah. - It just looks like shit. It's like, what am I looking at? Where is this?

- What the fuck? - A lot of YouTube videos look better than Japanese TV. - Oh, dude. - Yeah, 100%. - But then a lot of their shows are just send a guy with a camera to this place and do the thing. - Yeah, exactly. - I mean, they can get away with more things, right? Because I guess if it's a big Japanese company, they really, really worry about that shit as we find out quite a lot. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of bureaucracy here.

But yeah, I mean, I don't watch too much Japanese TV. I'd rather watch YouTube. - I don't watch Japanese TV. - It's great inspiration. They have like really bizarre ideas. Like there's so many cool TV shows that they have. I don't know which ones I've spoken on the pod. Like I swear to God, I don't know what I've spoken on the podcast. - We talked about quite a few in the last one that we recorded. - Did I mention about the TV one where they basically just like go to random people and they're like, hey,

"We'll pay for your dinner if you take us to your house." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That was really cool. - What? - They would like go outside on sense, wait for the old guys to like finish at the bath house at like midnight. And they would be like, "Hey, take us to your house." - What would they show at the house? - Just like their stuff. - How they live. - How they live, like what they do, like their story. - Is it fun? - It's kind of interesting really, 'cause normally I guess everyone normally has, most people have some kind of interesting story about why they ended up. And especially I think is when you're older.

- You've lived through a lot of things. - Honestly, back when I used to watch a lot of Japanese TV, I got like a lot of inspirations for my YouTube channel off that. Like literally, like the reason why I do so many like quiz based videos. - I was just gonna say that. Those are my favorites. - It's purely like all of those ideas, I'll fully admit were taken straight off Japanese TV. - Yeah, I was just watching last night, there was like a three hour Kusama special where it's like a quiz god or quiz king or whatever. And it's so funny.

fun because they have all these Tokyo University graduates or post-doc candidates or whatever. And they're so brilliant. They're all Mensa geniuses. And they know so much about everything. And even though they can't, let's say, speak English, they know more vocabulary

- I can't speak it, but I know everything. - Oh, I can say mitochondria. And I can spell mitochondria. - I know it's the powerhouses. - And I'm like, really? You knew that in English? Like it's one thing, but then again, it is kind of like Japanese English, but still. It's really impressive and it's fun. And the quiz, like,

- I think that's like one type of Japanese TV I still watch to this day are the quiz shows. - They seem like they're willing to try out ideas more than I think Western TV is. I feel like we're very refined in our ideas. We like to like stick with what works and just only like reiterate on top of it in some way, small iterations at a time.

And then there's like weird shows in the UK actually. - I mean, there's weird show, but it seems like with Japanese TV, it's- - Everything's a weird show. - Everything's a weird show, which is why I guess they, you know, a lot of this got exported to foreign TV channels. That's how Japan got his image in the first place, right? - Yeah, I guess like, did you ever watch like the American ports of like Japanese TV shows in America? - No, I got,

I was able to watch Fuji TV when I was growing up in Japan. So it was just in Japanese. So I never really thought anything of it. - So you never watched like the spin-off of like Silent Library with like all the WWE players in it? - No, what the fuck? - What? - Okay, what's Silent Library? - Okay, so I thought everyone knew this one. So Silent Library is based off like a Japanese TV show. It was actually just one segment of a really famous Japanese TV show called Gaki no Tsukai.

It's like really famous, like gone off like 30 years or something. And there was one segment called Silent Library where it was five comedians inside of like a proper like public library. And they would pull out of a hat to do like a bunch of like punishment games that are like either really painful or like really loud or like, you know, get like a reaction out of them. But because they're in a public library, they have to be really quiet while doing all of it.

- So I remember there was one where there was like, one of the comedians like gets like fucking slapped in the face by like a sumo wrestler and he can't make a sound. Like he can't make a reaction sound. And obviously the other comedians can't laugh. - How do they get the sumo wrestler in the library to slap someone? Hey, come in the library, slap this dude. - But then I guess like American TV, I forgot which station it was, but American TV took that and replaced the comedians with wrestlers from the WWE. So they were like-

- It was actually really funny because these wrestlers would be in a public library fucking doing like German suplexes to one another.

to the fucking full on, but like all really silently. - And it was still a library? - Yeah, it was like a proper library. - It must be fake. - Yeah, but still it was like just seeing like all these like fucking massive six foot brick shit houses doing German suplexes to one another quietly as possible. - Unfortunately, most British TV shows don't get good adaptations in the US. - Not really?

- British humor is weird. - Yeah, I feel like the only good adaptation I've seen is The Office. - Yeah, Office. - I would like hazard to call that an adaptation because it's nothing like The British Office. It was one of the few examples where they took what works about The Office and did their own version. It's completely different, but it works in a different way. - They still paid homage to it, right?

- Yeah, the first season is very similar to the actual office. - The first season's very hard to watch. - Yeah, exactly. - That's what we like. - I totally get it. I absolutely understand. But oh my God, I just skip right past it every single time. I'm like, I can't, I'm so itchy.

- I love cringe humor. I love cringe humor. - Don't get me started about the American version of the in-betweeners. That is probably like, a lot of people like to forget that it exists, but it's something that exists. I didn't even know it existed, to be honest. - Do you know what the in-betweeners are? - No, I don't. - It's this really popular TV show that came out. I think when we were at University, I was in like,

- No, I was actually in secondary school then. - Were you? Is that when it started? Oh, it finished when I was in sixth form. - I was the same age as the characters in the "Inbetweeners" as it was airing, which is why it was fucking massive when it aired. - Yeah, it was huge in the UK. It was basically just four students just being like pretty,

accurate students and just messing up life situations. And you know, trying to like get girls and stuff. I mean, it was just really cringe humor. - The closest way I can describe it is like it's American pie kind of, but like- - Everything goes wrong for the characters. - It's scripted though. - Yeah, it's a scripted like, it's a sitcom. So it's kind of like an American pie sitcom, but just with British humor where you see these like four, no, yeah, four misfits just try to get laid.

and no matter what they do, it always goes wrong. - Right, right. - And they just cause awful situations. - It sounds amazing. - The British version is fucking hilarious. - Yeah. - British version. - I never knew about the American version and to be honest, I don't know. - It's so bad. - This episode of Trash Taste is supported by Manscaped. - Gentlemen, you know what I care about? - What?

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- Back to the episode. - No, back to the episode. - No, back to the episode. - Back to the episode. - Are there any other like American shows that have tried to adapt British shows that I'm just blanking on right now? - Oh, what's the- - Taskmaster had one. Have you seen Taskmaster? - What is Taskmaster? - It's a really popular comedy show in the UK. They adapted in America. It's not very good. - Wait, Taskmaster? - Yeah. - Isn't that a superhero villain?

- It sounds like a C-tier like DC. - It's a really, really popular comedy like show in the UK where like comedians are told to do like a task and then they're judged on how well they did it. - Like a really specialized. - Maybe, I mean, oh God, there's tons of- - 'Cause otherwise like it's just training. It's just apprenticeship or- - You should watch it, watch it, watch it. - Internship, yeah, right, right, right. - Intern, intern the challenge. - Intern the challenge. - So I guess like growing up,

or not so much, well, you're spending a lot of your childhood in Japan, right? Is there like, I don't know. I feel because like as someone who also spent a lot of his childhood in Japan, there's like certain types of, I guess like anime or shows or like manga where it's like,

it's only really like read or watched by people who were in that kind of situation. You know what I mean? Like a lot of like slice of life shit. Like someone who did- - Yeah, like Sazae-san, like Doraemon and stuff like that. - Of course. - Yeah, like you grew up with all that kind of stuff. - Absolutely, they were my favorites. Doraemon was so big and huge. That was like my major thing whenever I'd come to Japan, I would record those shows and I'd bring it back to the US. - I was exactly the same. - And I'd watch it like throughout the year.

- It sounds so bizarre to me, the thought of just going away to a foreign country, studying. - It sounds rich, right? - I thought I was hella rich 'cause every summer it's like, oh, I'm vacationing in Japan. I'm summering in Japan, but it's not. It was kanji test. - And then smash cuts. - It must be like, is it weird going to a foreign country, just having a, I mean, even then, back then, Japan was even more isolated at that point.

It must be so bizarre to having to go back and forth between those two. No one in my school went anywhere foreign and like studied there and came back. - That's because were there any Asian people in your school? - One Asian person came to my school as I was leaving. I'm not, I wish I was joking. I literally went to, I grew up in like the whitest part of like the whole country. And like, there was like never any like foreign people. - I was only like one of two Asian kids in my whole like,

- I was the only one. - I was the only one as well. And like, I grew up in Brighton, which is now seen as like the very progressive city. - It's like the gay capital of the- - Yeah, it was the gay capital. I don't know if it still is, but it was like, now it's seen as the very progressive city in England. But it wasn't like that when I was growing up, I'll tell you that because I, yeah, I was literally the only Asian person in my school. And my school wasn't small. We had like, in sixth form, we had like 800 people.

- Yeah, yeah. - Fucking hell. - My graduating class had like 600 something people and by high school there were a few more, but like middle school, elementary school, like I, or I'm sorry, secondary school or primary? - I get confused about that. - I get confused as well. - I'm sorry, friends. - No, we say secondary school. - We say secondary school, but I just call it high school now. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - We've been adopted by Asian, by American culture. - But yeah, I don't know.

- I don't know, it wasn't really weird for me. I knew I was, I got to step into a different world every summer. And also like I love my family and because my mom was able to bring me back every year, it kind of stayed tethered. - Bring you back, like sorry, didn't get the plane tickets. - Hoist me. Yeah, like I don't know, I felt very connected so it wasn't that stark of a thing. Like it was just a thing for me, right? Like, oh, every summer I go to Japan

- I go to Japan, every winter I go to Japan. Maybe it's because I also went two times a year. That's also why I didn't feel- - I only got to go one time. - You are lucky that we weren't in the same class. I'd have been like, "Raina, Raina, fucking tell me everything. How did it go? What did you do?" - Really? You'd be into Japan? - Dude, I was, yeah, as a kid. Yeah, I was, yeah. Always. I mean, I guess that's why I'm here right now.

- Ever since I was a kid, I always just thought that like Asia was super cool. And that like, cause to Europe, it's like the furthest place. - Right. - Which is funny, right? Because people in Asia are like, oh man, Europe is so cool. - Oh, Europe is amazing. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, now I really like Europe. When I was growing up, I'm like, mom, I don't wanna go to fucking Romania. I don't wanna go to Bulgaria or whatever. Like, take me to like Asia. I wanna go see, cause it all fucking looks the same in Europe. It doesn't, but.

As a kid, it all feels the same. I remember when I was like maybe 12 or something, we were shown Big Bird Goes to Japan in one of our history classes. Oh, no. And one, two, three is Ichi Ni Sang was really huge. And then everybody came to me all of a sudden and they're like, do you have a kimono? Like, do you pay in yen?

Yearn? Like they didn't know what the fuck. Yearn? Yearn? Like that was, I think, the first like super fascination that people had. And I was like, really? A big bird told, literal big bird made you interested in Japan? And they're like, really? Ohio, which is a state in the US. Ohio means good morning? And I'm like, yes, fuck. Like.

Like, yeah, we speak a different fucking language than you, bro. So that was my experience growing up. - So there wasn't like kids who were into the culture that were like, "Raina, Raina, I gotta ask you things." - You know, I had a parent that was very into Japan. - Oh no, that sounds weird. - Yeah, and like she'd really want her daughter to be friends with me. She loved Japan and she like always wanted to have tea with my mom, green tea.

Of course. That's all we drink. Yeah, she was like, matcha. But yeah, that was like the only hyper-concentrated interest I think anybody had. I did not care for this girl. Like, I did not.

- Yeah, it sucks. I always wanted to learn more about it, but you're just so limited what you could find. Cause I didn't know anyone. I didn't know anyone who knew anyone. - Even through the internet as well. It all came from like second, third hand accounts. No one was actually like documenting it. - Right, you can't get to like really know. - You just like read forums and have to like piece things together. - I think this is-

- I think this is like the right thing. I'm not really sure, but like I'll ask, I'll look around. 'Cause you know, I always just loved games as well. And games are like a huge thing. I was like, where do these games come from? - Yeah, so gaming was the other thing I think that brought attention to my nationality. That was really like when DDR came, everyone's like, wow, Japan, like can you sing butterfly?

or like candy, like that was it. That was a big one. - That's horrible. - I know, I know. - Were you into DDL? - I loved DDL. - That probably didn't help then. - It didn't help, it didn't help. - It was reinforcing the stereotype. - I know, like what are they asking? - Oh my God, fine, I'll spit fire, geez. - I feel like fuck, I mean, I'll like, I'll put it on my- - Do you eat sushi every day?

- Oh my God. - Yeah, oh yeah, I guess actually food was a little bit of a deal. Ramen wasn't that big back then, but like sushi- - It's big now, right? - Yeah. - Oh, huge. - I mean, Japanese cuisine, I feel like exploded during my lifetime. It wasn't that big when I was growing up, but now it's like- - In the UK, do you think so? I feel like we still only really have like sushi in the UK. - Not even ramen? - There's the occasional ramen place, but nothing like I think worth getting super excited over.

- The US has completely taken that over. - Ramen's everywhere now. - Everywhere now. - Yeah, but there isn't a single ramen restaurant in America where I'm like, this is good. - Yeah, me neither. - I mean, it would be hard, right? - It's pretty damn good. - Although to be fair, in Vegas, I did go to a place, a ramen place, which dead ass was called Naruto.

- That gets points just for that. - Straight up. - And I was like, "Aki, why are we not eating there every day?" It's fucking amazing. - I became so picky with ramen here. It's so easy to fuck up. I didn't realize. - Yeah, it really is. - When you're not here and you're not eating the ramen here, you're like, "Oh yeah, well it's ramen, isn't it? Same thing."

But then when you come here and you're like, broth is 4% too salty. The noodles were slightly undercooked. This is really embarrassing for you. This is your job. - You just become like an absolute fucking food snob when you live here longer. Where it's like, I never used to give a shit about like the type of ramen or the type

of sushi, but now I'm like, no, no. I only eat at one specific sushi train franchise anywhere else. Hundred years sushi get that shit out of here. - So many of them fuck up the pork. Like if it's so like old and like tough and I'm like, what did you do to this pork? - It has to be like the perfect texture that just like kind of falls apart in your mouth.

- Yeah, I find myself eating ramen a lot less in Japan than I thought I would. Like sushi fucking slaps it. I could eat that any day. - Also ramen fucking takes you out of business for the day. Like you can't do anything if you eat ramen. - It's so heavy and it's so bad for you. Like it's delicious, but like it's- - It is extremely bad for you. - It's really bad for you. And like you're not supposed to drink the whole broth. Like that's the killer.

- I knew, I looked at you for a reason. I knew you would. - You're like white guy, of course you would. - Dude, because when I go anywhere, I'm like, I don't want to feel like I'm leaving anything. 'Cause I feel rude. So I'm like, I look at the guy, Megan, I'm like, fuck. - Take it all in. - Chug, chug.

I guess I'm gonna just drink the fucking Dead Sea. - Okay, to be fair, okay, yes, that, okay, the sodium is through the roof. But sometimes some of the bowls have like the thank you message at the bottom if you drink it all. - Is that what you're going for? - That's how they get you. - That's how they literally get you. - Yeah, because I wanna see the thank you message. - But most of the time there isn't and do you get sad when you- - Yeah, actually I get real fucking sad when I- - I did it for nothing. - I drink like a liter of this thing. I feel awful all day. I have to like lie down and then I didn't even get a thank you. - The bowl didn't even thank you.

- Thank you. - I'd like to think that the guy is like, nice guy, he made my life a little easier. He cleaned it, but he probably doesn't give a fuck. He probably just gets the pressure washer and just and then it's like clean. - Ramen, you definitely get picky in Japan, but that's also because there's so much, there's a lot of factors to it, right? Like is the ramen too, is the noodle too chewy? Like is the broth too fatty? But it's also like personal. - Also sometimes you get like rushed

and when it's super busy, you're like, all the famous ramen places in Tokyo always have lines and you were like, expect to eat it, get the fuck out. You can't go with friends 'cause it's not really what it's for. 'Cause there's not gonna be like three seats empty. - Well, I know you guys have like constantly told me how fucking fast I eat my ramen.

- That's a skill. - It's literally just been, I've been conditioned to eat it that fast. - Joey fucking vacuums his ramen. - 'Cause I'm normally the one who eats super fast and then it's really weird being with Joey where he just destroys the ramen. I'm like, wait, hold up. - Well, it's because like I've been to, when I was still visiting here and my like uncle would take me to like the best fucking like ramen and skimming places. - He's like, we're leaving. We're leaving right now. - It's always like this store can only hold like three people sitting down. So it's like,

and there's always like 20 people waiting outside. So it's like, if you're dilly-dallying here, you're not gonna be welcomed back. - Yeah, 'cause you can't talk with your friends when you go in there. - No, no, no. - You gotta eat. - You have to concentrate. - Yeah, and actually it is a skill to eat ramen really fast. I eat it really fast too, it like scares people. But you know that slurping that you're supposed to do? That's like a purposeful thing. - It cools it down. - Yeah, so you can just eat the whole thing while it's piping hot, which is like a really, like you're not,

weirdly not there to enjoy it. - It's there for a purpose. - It's there for a purpose. - It's like fill my stomach and get the fuck out. - Yeah, but there's some places the ramen is so good that you're like, I need to take my time.

- I know, I know, I know. Which is why I'll try and go at like awkward times, like 3:00 PM. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Three, 'cause then you can normally, there's never a line. It's like, it's dinners, no one's coming for dinner, no one's going for lunch. - Right. - It's like good. But then you fucked up your eating schedule for the day. - Right. - I always feel so ungraceful getting out of the stools. I'm like, now I look like I'm two months pregnant and I gotta like,

- Wedge my way out of here. - Like you can feel the soup just swishing around in your stomach. - The worst is, if you're getting on the train afterwards, the moment you sit down on the train, it's like sleep is activated. - It does rock you to sleep, it really does. That food coke is real. - But it's so good, go eat it. - Just don't go to Ichiran. - No, I like Ichiran, Ichiran's good.

- I remember when you took me there for the first time, 'cause I'd never been to Ichiran, 'cause I've only been to like local places. So this is, I think it was the day after our medical exam. And Connor's like, "Guys, we gotta go to Ichiran." - Well, I wanted to get fucked up by ramen, 'cause we weren't- - Fucked up by ramen? - So we weren't allowed to eat before like the, we weren't allowed to eat from like 8:00 PM the night before, which doesn't sound bad, but when you're told you can't eat by- - Oh yeah, it hurts. - Then you're like, "No, I'm hungry."

- And I remember we were eating it and Connor was like, "Go on, how is it? How is it?" And I'd never had such a hard time forming an opinion until that moment. - That's what I'm saying, Ichiran is the most solid five out of 10. - Yeah, but the thing I like about it, Ichiran is a chain of ramen that's seen as very touristy, I guess. The one thing I do like about it though is that you can, I know this isn't a thing for ramen, you're not supposed to do this, you can customize the spice level, which I really like spicy ramen.

and nowhere ever does spicy ramen. So it's nice that you can do it. You can be like, "Hey, put a habanero in this shit." And then they do it. And then you can order like extra meat, extra noodles. Like it's all chill. - That's what it is, right? - The customization is- - Yeah, the customization is what gets the tourists. - It's not the best by any means, but it's like the most comfortable. - I like it. I know that I won't like get,

if I go there, right? Like a solid five. Like I know I will completely fuck up. - It was just like a solid five and I'm just like, well, that was a meal that I consumed and it wasn't bad and it did the job. I am now full. Thank you very much. - Right, right. - If you wrote an IGN review for Ichiran, it'd just be like, good, five out of 10. There's like nothing else you can say about it. - You should go to Ichiran, it's pretty good.

- Check it out. You should go there first as a baseline. - No, I agree. - Oh, that's actually, that's a really good idea. - And they're all over Shinjuku. There's like three right next to the station, so. - Oh, are there? - Yeah. - Oh. - All in the sketchy parts. - Yeah. - 'Cause when we left that Ichiran, we literally walked out and a guy came up to us like, "You want sex? You want sex?" And we're like literally in front of the station. I'm like, "What is happening?"

- It wasn't even late at night, it was like a- - It was like midday. - It was midday, it was literally lunchtime. - Do you want lunch? Do you want lunch? - It's 'cause you're foreign. So when they don't bug Japanese people. I remember I asked this to one of the bar owners around the area. I was like, why did they only like come up to like foreigners? And they were like, oh, 'cause Japanese people will call the police.

- Oh really? - Really? - 'Cause the dudes will come up to you and they'll put their arms around you like, "Hey, where you wanna go? "You looking for some good time?" And it's like, "Leave me the fuck alone." - I can see the Japanese calling the police for that. - Yeah, exactly. If a guy puts his arm around you, they're not gonna do it and they know the Japanese aren't gonna talk to them 'cause they're terrified. I mean, they are, 'cause they just come up to you and start like, they're quite intimidating. They're like pretty upfront and like, yeah. - I see you look different from everyone else. What are you doing?

- Yeah, it's fine there. It is what it is. You deal with it. - So like going back to your experiences in school when everything would be in Japanese, was like, were you ever like open about watching anime or did you ever get bullied for that? - In American school, I don't think I ever really brought it up. It's not like I was trying to keep it a secret. It's not like these are my- - It doesn't come up in conversation. - Right, right. And I wasn't like, these are my interests.

Oh, God. I do remember something weird did happen. I had to do a book report and an autobiography. And I did it on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle because I actually really do like Sherlock Holmes. I already know where this is going. But I also like Sherlock Holmes because my favorite anime of all time is Detective Conan. I grew up with it. It's like my baby.

It's older than me now. Like, it's crazy. But I was obsessed with it. And all throughout my life, I loved it. And I loved it. So I started reading like real Sherlock Holmes. And I was like, I'm going to do my whole book report on this. And I got like really into it. Like it was like a 15 minute presentation. To like write a plea stomp. Yeah. She was like, you already got the A. Like, shut the fuck up. Like, fuck, we get it. You're like an Asian nerd. Like, goddamn, sit down. But.

but that was when in the whole presentation towards the end I started talking about Detective Conan I was like I was like I had to explain something like about his name right and other iterations of his name and I was like and in Japan the most popular anime is called Detective

and it's about Conan Doyle, but it's not because, and I had to, and I like went on like a really nerdy tangent. - You literally did like an anime analysis video of why Conan is called Edogawa Conan. - Yeah, I did, I did. Edogawa, yeah, because Aoyama Gosho uses different, like specifically different famous literature like figures that are like detective novelists in his book jackets and they work their way into the anime

And I was like so excited about it. And I was like, and then like Cordelia Gray is high, but I, because gray is high. - It's a tough thing to learn as a kid. You're like, man, people don't care about the things that I care about. - I was fine. I didn't get like bullied or anything, but that was what I was like, I gotta turn it down. - I'm weirding people out. - I gotta shut up right now. - I got rinsed for saying I liked One Piece when I was like 12.

- Wait, but you've never even seen it? - No, I did when I was a kid. - Oh really? - Yeah, I watched the four kids. - The four kids version. - Yeah, I would have bullied you too for that. - Yeah, they were just like, "Why are you watching cartoons Connor? We're 11, go up." Literally. - Oh yeah. - My parents would lie at the time. They're like, "When are you gonna stop watching cartoons?" And I'm like 13. I'm like, "Am I supposed to stop? What? This is awesome though." - My parents kept telling me, "You'll grow out of this. You'll grow out of this." Here I am like about to go to university being like,

- I'm still really enjoying this right now. - Gave me a career out of it. - Was there a thing like that in American schools where it was like they expect you to stop talking about stuff like that? - You know, there definitely was. And I think it was also like, I grew up in late 90s, 2000. And there was definitely kind of like, oh, we wanna pretend to be older than we actually are kind of phenomenon. However, we also,

I have to credit like Cartoon Network for this. It's an American television station that had this thing called Toonami. - Yeah, we had it as well. - It's not like just American, yeah. That was phenomenal. And Adult Swim was amazing because they would actually show like Cowboy Bebop. And what was another, well, they had like a bunch of weird things like,

Blue Sub 6 was on it. Outlaw Star was amazing. Yeah, that was a good one. And then they did really random things like Candidate for Goddess and stuff like that. So they would have really AAA shows and then they'd interlace the CBD titles that probably were less expensive, right? Just to fill that time slot. But it was such a good way to introduce, I think, this adult theme that...

is a juxtaposition to what cartoons are in the West. And I feel like I also then started like cultivating my like nerd friends and we all would like watch together and we'd all, we were all gamers. So that kind of like interwoven itself, inter, like it just weaved itself in perfectly. And I never was like,

- I'm so jealous because I wish I had nerd friends growing up. Nerd friends just didn't exist. - I was growing up in like 2000s, I got some shit for being nerdy. I got shit for playing video games. - Really? - Yeah.

- Maybe I think I just grew up in like a really cute- - I think I've said this before on the podcast. I've always been envious of the fact that like America seemed to be way more open to like nerd culture and that kind of stuff. - Maybe we were. - And I think that the UK is very much not here. - Yeah. - It is now, it is now. - I feel it definitely depends though on like the type of friends you had as well because like, you know, there are just some- - I was lucky.

- Yeah. - 'Cause like now that you're so like deeply ingrained into the nerd culture with your career, was there ever like a switch where you noticed, oh, being a nerd's actually cool now? - Absolutely.

But I think, okay, so I'm like pretty like headstrong and pretty loud and obnoxious than I always was. I was also like obsessed with X-Files like in like a dangerous manner, right? What about X-Files? Well, no, like it's just so nerdy and it's like kind of older and nerdy and like nobody gives a fuck and I'd literally like go around singing like weird songs I made up about Mulder and Scully and how they should be together.

and stuff and like I would- - This is the same people who like this eventually turned into supernatural fans, right? - Oh my God, yes. But I'm like charm fans. - It's the exact same group of people. - I've heard that name a lot. - It's the same type of people. - Definitely and like, I don't know. Like I think I just didn't really care and nobody really made fun of me for it

because I don't know, I guess there's like no reason to. It's like, oh, like look at that little Asian girl being obsessed with this like weird alien show or whatever. And I was in AP studio art and I would like, I would literally draw Scully and Mulder. And once I drew them fucking, like I did it. I was like- - You literally drew X-Files Dojin. - Yeah, I like rule 34'd like-

like Mulder and Scully and I tried to submit it for one of my like studio profiles and they it got rejected so fast and so hard and so yeah well I know it was so beautiful I'm like yeah romantic embrace it was romantic it wasn't like hot and

- It was raunchy, it was romantic and beautiful. And then I was like- - They weren't fucking, they were making love. - They were making- - Thank you very much. - I know, I said it wrong. - It deserves to be on a roof of a church. - Truly, it was very acceptable. - Tasteful is the word I'm gonna use. - Tasteful. - Very tasteful. - I don't know if it was tasteful. You could see some nipple.

I didn't understand why they would reject it so quickly. So I would modify it and I'd turn it into mixed media and I'd put oil paintings on it and then I'd put some acrylic on it so it would cover some of the... You were really committed to this drawing, huh? I wanted it to be submissive.

So, you know, I'd like try to fix it, but it was still rejected 'cause they knew what the original one was. But anyway, my whole point was like, I really wore it on my sleeve without really giving a shit. So there was no making fun of me. It's like, what are you gonna make fun of me for liking this show? Like, bitch. So, I don't know. - I feel a lot of kids though, like especially back then were not as strong as you were. - Yeah. - Right. - It was a very empowering moment when I realized, wait, I can just like not care.

And then people won't. - It's like, whoa, you can do that? - Yeah, and then people will like not make fun of me 'cause they realize I don't care. - I'm sure they made fun of me in secret. - It doesn't matter, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - For sure. - Just don't care. It's such a cheat code to life, right? - Yeah, seriously, truly. - God damn. - I do wanna know, considering all the stuff you have done, also the-

What's the Mochi Gang show? It was awesome, by the way. Oh, yeah. Thank you so much. I was like, damn. Nice, Raina. You killed it. That was a lot of fun. It was a little scary because in that, I had to interpret on the spot as well because actually, a lot of the Japanese chefs that we interviewed in Manhattan were just Japanese. They didn't speak like a lick of English.

Really? Yeah. And they purposefully found them. It was so good. Like the researchers in first week. Yeah. Freaking good. Like Jackson's amazing. He was our director, but he like really went hard and we went to like this specialized, uh, Kabayaki Unagi shop. It was like, it's the only one in all of New York. Yeah. Um, on that, like shooting like that, like seven coal, like fire thingy. And,

he's like the only one in all of Manhattan that does it. And he literally gets the Unagi imported from John F. Kennedy airport. And he has to get specialized FDA passes for it because they're live animals. Oh,

So like, yeah, so like they went deep and it was hard because again, like food lingo is technical lingo. So I was like, what did you just say? Like, I don't know what knife you're talking about. And they're like, oh no, that's like not like, it was kind of hard. But I did feel really special because they're like, only you would be able to

do this. Literally you were like perfect for that. It was so good. And then you know they even knew I used to be an apprentice pastry chef. Like they went that deep into researching about me. Wow. Yeah and they're like so since you have like culinary experience I'm like why do you

I told you that. I was like definitely still using my real name back then. So like, how the fuck did you find that shit? Like, what else do you know about me? I thought I scrubbed that. Your entire life history. They're like, this you? And they even knew

- I even knew what culinary school I got certificates from in Manhattan. - That's fucking creepy. - Yeah, they knew where I learned chocolate tempering and they also learned where I learned, they knew where I learned sponge cakes. - I don't even know what that word means. What is chocolate tempering? - It's when you raise the temperature of chocolate to melt it and then cool it down and then melt it again. - Oh, that's what you do with metal to heat treat it.

- Yeah, actually. - That's what we do with engineering. - Actually, yes, so that the white streaks don't happen when it formulates again. - You treat chocolate. - Yeah, it shocks the chocolate. - That must have come from engineering techniques, right? - Yeah, definitely. And the real way to do it is you use a marble slab to cool it down and then you scrape it again and warm it up again so that it changes the molecule. - You put in more engineering than I do.

- Man, this is like our food signs. - Yeah, they freaking knew that. What is that about? - And they were like, "So in school, we see you drew a picture of Mulder and Scully fucking." What was that? - And they're mad.

- It's just some chapel shit. - So we found a manuscript of your Detective Conan speech. It's kind of cringe, bro. What were you thinking about that? - It's not cringe, it was well researched. It was so well researched. - I was gonna ask, what's next then? What do you wanna do next? 'Cause you've done everything, I swear, right? - Damn, I really don't know. We had "Goji Gang" season two and all the guests completely mapped out and then we had to drop it and we postponed it, postponed it,

And then now it's like completely in limbo. And you know, the U S is like doing pretty well with vaccination. So I think that's what they're like really banking on. So the timeline is starting to kind of speed up where they can kind of see the light at the end of the tunnel. But man, it's really hard. Cause I just, I'm trying to make sure that that happens beyond anything else. And,

- It's hard to get invested in anything right now. - It really is. And I don't wanna have my heart broken. - It's literally just don't get my hopes up. It's literally just been that for the past year and a half. - Just tell me when it happens and then I can get excited about it. - But as we talked about before, Twitch is very interesting, but also I've been doing a lot more voice acting

Because a lot of the studios, especially like more indie gaming studios, have become more flexible with their audio specs, right? So they're okay with like you sending stuff from home. And so that's looking really fun and good during this like,

like pandemic period. But genuinely, I don't even like really know. I'm just trying to figure it out. I'm just trying to figure it out. And I think it's almost okay that we take the time that's like, what else are we supposed to do other than like kind of introspect right now? Yeah.

- Do you have a favorite kind of like industry or topic that you like to work in? Because you've worked in so many different industries and stuff. - I do like hosting. I think that is really where I trained the most in, so to speak. And I'm the most comfortable being like told what to say, but also have an opinion about it. - Because you're almost like, you're in a weird position where it's like,

people know you as like a YouTuber. - I know, right? - But you don't really consider yourself a YouTuber, right? - I mean, it's not like a bad thing. Like I would- - Dirty word. - Yeah, I'm not a YouTuber. - Did you just call me a content creator? Ew.

- I mean, in a way, like I actually think it's more impressive to be a YouTuber where I like really wanted to be that instead of like a host that's hired for stuff. - I don't know, man. Like I think a host looks way more like, whoa, that's cool. - Yeah, it's like, it's kind of hard to tell. - I feel like it's my mood on the day. - Yeah. - Yeah.

Consistent employment, that must be nice. But then I'm like, oh, but then I guess your earnings are capped at some point. They are, they are. And your growth potential is definitely there. But I do miss working with a technical team. I miss having a co-host. And I guess I miss a professional aspect of it.

Although it's not like YouTube isn't professional. It's just having to take care of every aspect of it yourself. And then if it comes crashing down, it crashes down on you and you implode. That's really frightening. - It is super nice just being able to turn up and then just do the thing and leave. - Right, right. - It's pretty good.

- I feel like I'm really quite technologically current, right? But even like streaming for me, it's like confusing at times. Like just having to set up and having to learn, especially looking at Connor's setup, which Connor says it's easy. I'm gonna be like, no, it's not easy. - I've said it before, like you could do it too.

- Okay. - Well, okay, this way is like, I can like dumb it down, like take away some things that you don't need, like all the live sound effects and dumb. - You need to bare bones that shit. - Yeah, well, I mean, you know, literally like the stream deck alone will up the quality of your stream, which is like this tiny little thing with like 12 buttons that will just change things or play sounds or do certain things.

And it makes it so much more professional and makes it so much easier. Because I used to have to like pull up the software, scroll to the thing I wanted to click and then change it to like this screen. So if I want to be like, okay, show all of my face, all right, scroll all the time. I actually want to change back to the game now, but now it's like press the buttons on the side. - Yeah, but like there's also times where, you know, with this kind of setup for some reason, you know,

you change one setting or something, you change one setting you don't remember you did. And for some reason that sound from your game or the sound from the chat is just not coming out. - There's always a technical issue somewhere. - And you just have to go through this to-do list where you're just checking, okay, is this setting correct? Is that setting correct? I don't even remember all what,

I did to set this up to begin with. It just adds a layer of complexity to it. - I do think that there's like such a forgiveness in streaming, right? Like anybody that is your fan that's watching you, I think they find it charming

that you have to not like fumble around, but it's very real, right? To be like, "Oh, sorry, like technical error. Like let me fix it." And you're kind of there for the journey. - I guess that's kind of like the bittersweet moment, right? 'Cause like there have been some moments where I'm like, there was something wrong with my stream and I cannot for the life of me- - I just completely forgot something. - Fucking figure it out. But like, it's kind of like nice to be like, just you've been like, "Oh fuck, sorry guys. You know, I'm trying to fix this thing. I don't know what the fuck it is. I don't want to end the stream 'cause we just started." And this is, you know,

hundreds of people just being like, "It's all good, bro." - Yeah, it's charming. - I don't know, 'cause I get that because a lot of people in the comment section are supportive, but then you start going through technical difficulties and then you see that live view account drop and it just, it never feels good. - If it's something little, it's whatever. But if it's like stream, like crashing worthy, like it's very stressful. I accidentally shared my YouTube, like all my analytics one time on,

on the street for like a second. - You just accidentally hit the wrong tab. - Yeah, I accidentally shared the wrong thing and I was like, yeah guys, all right, that's how much I made this month. - I've done worse than that. Okay, so I leaked the Trash Taste special. - Oh, that's not bad. - I've leaked my IP address.

- Which is awful. That was the most stressful realization of my life. - Are we getting de-dosed? - Instant sinking feeling to be like, okay, I gotta fucking sort this out. I literally unplugged my internet, unplugged everything. I'm just like, Google, how do I change my IP address? - Fucking hell. - Basically don't go on, don't test your speed.

- I didn't realize my IP address was right there. - How did you save it? What did you do? - Luckily, it wasn't that complicated because I Googled it. All you have to do to like change, cause I don't have a static IP address. All I had to do was like unplug, unplug it again. But I don't know at the time I was just like, well, my internet's fucked. - Yeah, because I feel like how you handle the fuck up is like the most important part.

- Yeah. - And then like when I flashed my thing, I'm like, "You know what guys, I'll just fucking show you. Just have a look. You're gonna look at the clip. Just have a look." Like, all right. And then I was like, "All right, so I know it seems like a lot." - Just an estimate. - YouTube takes 40%. - YouTube takes a car. There's a lot of Costco involved. It's real easy to look at that number.

- I'm like, you know, tax is like 40%. It's pretty brutal, you know? - So basically I see none of that. - What I'm trying to say is I'm broke. Thanks for the $10 donation by the way, Tim in the chat. I'm kidding. - That's why I tell people when I'm streaming, I don't stream 'cause I wanna like, some people do it 'cause they're like, "I wanna get more subs." I'm like, I just do it 'cause I like playing the game. I don't like playing games alone anymore.

For me, I don't know why. I think that's probably a bad thing that I've ruined gaming alone for myself. I only like gaming with an audience now. I don't know what else this is about me. What's wrong with me mentally? - That's like literally the only thing that's stopping me from fully committing to Twitch is the fact that I don't want another one of my hobbies to turn into a job. - I completely understand.

- And yes, that's also my other- - I was falling out of love with gaming and I think Twitch really saved it for me. And that's why like when I'm streaming more, it's like, yeah, dude, you know, you can sub if you want, but like, I really don't care if like, you know, you don't need to, I'm doing this regardless. - Yeah, yeah. - And yeah, I just hope people believe me when I say that. It's so easy to sound like bullshit when you say something like that. - Yeah, of course. - Try to justify why you have like 30K revenue last month. You're like,

"Oh my God." - Yeah, you should have just been like, "I don't choose the sepia." - I'm like, you know, it used to be like, I couldn't live and now I live comfortably, you know? It's like, things change, you know? But I'm like sinking in my chair, like fuck.

- I can't believe you went into justify. That's so scary. I would've just like cut the whole stream. I'd be like, that was a technical error. Somebody hacked me. - Yeah. - Photoshop is advanced these days. Wow, I left my, I photoshopped my own analytics. Damn, look at that. - I just opened up paint and being like, just drawn a three and being like, oh no. - Just like erase one of those zeros. - Yeah, I think people though, I think, you know, when you get to a certain size, people are like, I expect you to make some money. - It always feels weird 'cause I feel like I don't deserve it.

- Well, their estimates are also like way off. - Yeah, they are, they are. - Someone's like, you probably make like $500,000. I'm like, are you fucking stupid? - It is so hilarious looking up fucking websites being like, the anime man's net worth. - 10 million dollars. - It's always like 10 times more than what you actually make. - But it's all, because it's an estimate, right?

- The range. - The range. - Yeah. - Fucking hilarious. It's like the anime man is worth anywhere between $200,000 to 10 million. I'm like, I'm sure I am somewhere in there. - I mean, I do get it now that I'm a YouTuber because like for the longest time I thought how much I earned is how much everyone's earned for what I get. And then I've only recently realized, man, CBM fucking matters. - Oh yeah. - And the like subject matter that you talk about also fucking matters. Like I would say this like,

as like a person who does anime content on YouTube, CPM fucking sucks. - It's absolute shit. - I didn't realize how much other people in the like,

was earning in other fields until people started exposing how much they earned. - Yeah, exactly. - And it was just like, wow. - You're so desperate for a video, you're like, "Fuck it, I'll out myself as a millionaire." "I'm not one of you guys, I lied." - "Yes, I'm a millionaire, what of it?" - "I needed a video this week, damn it."

- That's scary, man. Yeah, but like, again, like, 'cause you know, I've also been thinking of like getting, you know, after what I'm going through, 'cause right now I'm in a really busy period, but like once I've like settled down and I can actually start doing Twitch streams more regularly, it's like, all right, I wanna try and figure out a way to not make this another job. - Right. - You know what I mean? Because it's like, I've already done it with anime where like literally all of last year and like a large majority of 2019,

I didn't fucking watch any anime 'cause I was so fucking burnt out on it, right? After like six plus years of talking about it. And it's shitty because it's like, I still love it, but like,

I had so much trouble actually sitting down and being like, I'm gonna casually watch an anime. 'Cause I can't do it anymore. - You're gonna be like ranked watching hentai. - Right. - I can't play casual hentai anymore. I only have ranked playlists. - Oh dude, it's like, it's ripping my fucking libido. - I do kind of feel that because it's not ranked hentai or ranked anime. But like you do watch anime and you're just like,

- Is this useful to like my job? - Yeah. - It's literally like ranked and casual gaming. If you only play ranked, it's so hard to play normal games. - It's like, I could be making a video on this. And if I don't, I feel like it's a waste of my time. - What about when you go to like 7-Eleven right now, you're like, fuck, I don't wanna make a video, but I just wanted to get a sandwich, but fuck, I should vlog. - Oh my God, I always feel that all the time. Like I always end up taking videos and photos at 7-Eleven, even if it's just like in the middle of the night and I'm getting a strong or something. - You seem to get B-roll though. - Yeah, I do.

I always think which is like kind of I think unhealthy I just want to live in the moment and like drink my like three strong zeros and just like like pass the fuck out for the rest of the night but but I'm also look at how aesthetic it is and I'll like have to like take some b-roll and I'm like I'll definitely use that at one point or whatever but it's also a trap right like because 7-eleven will come out with something new like literally every three or four days and I'm like fucking hell I don't want this shit now I'm like I want to eat

- Stop being a great company with great new items for me as a customer. - Because like the seasonal products in Japan, they're just like, this is just like a YouTube gold mine. - Yeah. - Japan is a YouTube gold mine. - It is, it is. - I mean, Don Quixote was made for YouTube.

- It's like, are you running out of video ideas? Go to Don Quixote. - Yeah, just to be inspired. - It's not just that, but like, I think Japan as a country is just optimized for every kind of fucking content out there. My God, I've never seen a country that is more aesthetic than Japan. It's kind of not fair. - You were talking about this the other day. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause we were like walking down what, like, was it Nakameguro? - Nakameguro, yeah. - And it was just like this random street in this random area. And I'm just looking around being like,

I'm like, that's really fucking aesthetic, isn't it? My God. - No, Garnt out loud to me was like,

I hate how aesthetic Japan is. Literally everywhere, I can turn any corner and I'm just like, damn, that looks good. - I feel like, 'cause you know, for example, when you go to Starbucks in the UK, I feel like this is ruining the architecture. Like there's such like classical buildings that look great. And it's like, oh, it's fantastic. In Japan, they look really fucking cool. And Japan is so good at decorating everything. Starbucks, they have like 100% figured everything out.

- Yeah. - Everyone is obsessed with Starbucks. - Right. - Yeah. - And it's like, they're so good. Like all the Sakura cups right now, like everything's Sakura. - Yeah. - And they change it next month. It's gonna be something else. It's like, they've gamed it so well. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And it's just like every little restaurant, even if it's just like a local restaurant or like a big chain, they've like personalized their looks so much that, you know, you can go to a different restaurant and have like a completely different experience.

It's just kind of ruined. I don't know if ruined is the right word, but like it's set my expectations unreasonably high for when I go back to England and everything kind of looks the same. - You've been to the UK? - I've never, oh, I have one.

- I have once, I went once for this like Sony Square Enix sponsored thing. I think it was like a VR before VR was perfected. So it made everyone sick. - Just dropping the big names. - You're like Pokemon, Sony. - I'm sorry, I didn't mean to. I actually wanted to talk about how it was before VR was perfected. So everybody threw up everywhere. It was like a really big problem. I was one of them. - It's like the episode from Family Guy. Everyone's just fucking vomiting. - Not that.

- It was really similar. It made everybody sick. But that was the only time I ever went and I was so in love with it. Everything was so lovely and beautiful. - Is the architecture fantastic? - I thought so. - Fuck you, Con. - You think it doesn't look great? - I'm not impressed by it. - Really? - Like coming to Japan, I'm like, Japan's way more aesthetic than the UK.

- I think Tokyo buildings are ugly sometimes. They're like really messy and like dirty sometimes. I don't know. - It depends on the district. - Yeah, it depends on the district. There are some parts where I'm just like, yikes, this is like kind of gross. - Yeah, it looks like termite. - Wait, what did you like about the UK? I'm curious. - Let's see, our hotel was a very like classical hotel. - You got very lucky. - Oh yeah, I know I was lucky. And I loved the breakfast. Oh my God, the breakfast was phenomenal.

- Phenomenal. - The English breakfast. - Oh, it was so good. - To be fair, English breakfast is fucking bomb. - It is good. - It is good. - Fucking amazing. And you know, everybody kind of kept to themselves. - Yeah, that's what we do. - Yeah, British people do that. - I liked that too. - It's not British people keeping to themselves, it's Americans unable to keep to themselves. - This is why I feel, when I moved here, I felt like there were a lot of parallels between Japanese and British culture. Like the way that it's like, keep to yourself, don't make noise. - Head down.

- Yeah, head down. - Just don't worry about it. - Don't talk shit on public transport. Don't do that. Why would you do that? Don't do that. - Maybe that's why I just like innately really liked it. But you know, like you said before, Japan does kind of have this like romantic, weird admiration with Europe. So I think, I mean, culturally, I guess like personality wise, we're also the same, keep to ourselves, like be quiet and stuff. But there's things I think in Japan that like wanted to be like the UK. - Yeah, right.

- Yeah, I feel like the UK were pretty good at knowing when to be loud and rowdy, I guess. At least I feel like we are. - What was the drink I had? Pimms? - Pimms is good. - Honestly, I fuck with Pimms. - Pimms is good. - It's like a summer cocktail drink where you just put like a bunch of fruit in a drink

10% alcohol is it's quite strong. - It's kind of like a Long Island iced tea. - But fruity. - No, no, no. Don't say Long Island iced tea. - Okay. - That's it. - I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - That'll give the wrong image. - You're right, you're right. - It's like a super, super fruity and fresh tasting cocktail that's quite strong. - It tastes good.

- I think the one island I see tastes good though. - No it doesn't. - The one island I see is what you take when you get fucked. - And if you go to a British barbecue, everyone brings Pimm's. - Yeah, okay. - It's very normal. - Love Pimm's. - Sounds great. - That was delicious. I had it like every night. And then you know, you'd like feel better with the breakfast in the morning. But yeah, it was really lovely. I wanted to go again, but there were like, there was no timing and whenever I had,

like vacation time, I'd always choose Japan. - I'm just always curious what people think about the UK. 'Cause obviously when you're British, you're like, I fucking hate it here. - I mean, as a- - I'm tired of being British. - As a Sherlock Holmes fan, I shit myself. Like it was amazing. - Did you go to Baker Street? - No, I didn't. - 'Cause the underground station for Baker Street has like all the walls, like in the shape of like outlines of the characters, like aren't like in tiles. Yeah, it's really- - Oh really? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's pretty cool. - A lot of the really historic stations,

all the underground stations have like something to have for it. Like I think where the Globe Theater is, it's a bunch of Shakespeare stuff all over the underground station. - That's pretty cool. - Wow, that's lovely. - Japan kind of does that too in a sense, but a lot more like subtle, I feel. - I think, yeah, we're really proud of our history in Britain.

- Yeah, yeah. - Probably shouldn't be at sometimes. But some things are good. They're like Shakespeare. Forget the colonization stuff. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Shakespeare. - Jesus Christ. - No, 'cause like for me at least as a Brit, I feel like London is pretty cool. London's a cool city. - Sorry, I feel like I always bring up Brit. I just love hearing what people think about the UK.

- No, I genuinely, yeah, of course. I care about what people think about Japan. - Yeah, yeah. - Well, let me tell you. - No, I mean like London's cool. London's like really different, I feel. London's like kind of in its own bubble. - Totally different. - You go out of London and like to me, every kind of place in England kind of feels the same. I mean, I would say, I do kind of miss the country sides of England.

Countryside's really fucking beautiful. But for me, I just don't get any variety in England. And that's what I love about Japan. I feel like you can get so many different experiences here. And I feel like, especially in COVID times when we have been stuck in Japan, even in those times, I feel like I've been able to be blessed with a lot of variety in the experience I've had, even being stuck in one country. And I feel like if I was living in any other country,

I would be way more bored than I am if I wasn't in Japan. - I can't imagine fucking being locked down in Australia right now 'cause it's like,

Dude, there's nothing to fucking do if you don't have a car. And you're not even allowed to drive around. I can't walk anywhere. - Right, right. - So it's like, well fuck, what am I gonna do? Look at the fucking same cockatoo 70 days in a row. - What is a cockatoo? - You know what a cockatoo is? - Is it a bird? - Yeah, it's a giant bird, yeah. - That sounds badass. - Do you? - I mean, they're parrots. So yeah, I mean, trained ones can. - I watched a TikTok of a cockatoo sing a song by itself when the owner goes away.

- Yeah, we had a pet cockatiel, which is like a kind of smaller cockatiel. And we taught it to sing the "Adams Family" theme song. - That's so cute. - And imitate the microphone. Sorry, the microwave. Like the microwave beeping noises. So like it got so good to the point where like it would make beeping noise at the microwave. And I legitimately thought someone was using the microwave. - Oh my God. - So like every now and then, like he'd make the microwave like beep.

like the button pressing sounds. And one of us would go into the kitchen being like, "Who's using the microwave?" - Yeah. - Yeah, it was fucking cool. - There'll be an episode of like Joey's haunted microwave coming up. I feel an aura. - It used to imitate like the phone ringing as well. - What? - Oh my God, that'd be a nightmare. - 'Cause we used to have still like landline like, you know, phones, like the house phone. - My parents still do. - And yeah, it would imitate that sound.

- So many times during the day, we think the phone is ringing and we'd walk in and it's not ringing. - That would be so annoying. - It got very annoying. - Or if they could do like the vibrating noise perfectly when someone could do that. I knew someone who could do that. - Oh yeah, yeah. - That's pretty good. - Yeah. - It was kind of like suspicious. - I didn't think it was that hard. - He did go to the Tenga factory, so. - Those ones just go .

- Wow, exact. - I've noticed Joey is like surprisingly good at doing sound effects. Like we were in karaoke the other day and Joey just does like the R2D2 sound effects and like the X-Wing sound effect. And it's just like. - You know in Star Wars, the R2D2 when he like screams. - Yeah, I know. - Yeah, I can do that like surprisingly well.

- Wow. - I don't know if I wanna do it now 'cause the fucking microphone. - It might blow out, yeah. But later, please. - Yeah, I'll show you later. And I can do like the X-wing, like, you know, the scream sound. - What? - Yeah. - I feel like you have to do it now. - I don't know. I guess it's just I have a good ear.

Anyway, though. Lots of pressure on, but yeah. Actually, I want to go back to how Japan is super varied because I actually never understood that about Japan being such a tiny island country and yet having even

even dialects be so different throughout all of Japan? How is that possible? Like, how did that even happen? Like, how did we stay so separated in all of our like clans, so to speak? - Look at the UK, right? - The UK is similar. - I guess so actually. - It's like 20 different accents just in London.

- If you drive 10 minutes, it's totally different accent sometimes. And I feel like it's certainly like if a country has been around for a while, it happens, right? And especially 'cause there was before travel was widely available, I guess. - I mean, in the case of Japan, like brief history of Japan, like Japan was,

- 20 pieces. - Well, yeah, it was in like 50 different pieces and each of them was technically their own countries until it was all founded in like the 1600s. So for like over two, 3000 years, each place was just like a different country. - It just blows my mind 'cause like even, so I'm in Shizuoka, right? And I'm like on the side that's rather close to Tokyo.

It takes longer to get to the opposite side of Shizuoka than it does to go to Tokyo. And I went there for like some kind of job and I couldn't understand the shopkeep person. I couldn't figure it out. I was like, I'm so sorry. And I have a Shizuoka accent in Japanese. Like I accidentally let like the dialect slip and stuff. But even then I was like, I don't, I can't figure you out. Like, uh, do you speak English?

- Yeah, it's crazy. I had that same thing when I, 'cause my family's from Miyagi, which is up north, right? And I have so many of my grandma and granddad's cousins who still live in fucking tiny villages in the middle of the mountains. Where it's like, there are some villages that have their own village specific dialect. - Wow. - And village specific words.

And I remember like one of them like came out to the city to like see my grandma for like, you know, in like first time in like 15 years or something. And she just came out and she did like a lot of like Japanese dialects have like, they end their sentences in a very like specific way. - Yeah, the ending is specific. - The ending is very specific. - Yes. - Right. - Right. So like in, you know, what's like an example, like in Sendai normally, right? We end all of our sentences in "be".

- Instead of . - We say it's not for us. So like usually it's or , right?

turns into just whatever. - Different shit when it comes to dialects. - Yeah, so ours is bad. - I've been winging it, man. When people are just saying, "Oh, soul disney." And then I'm like, "Am I doing it right?" I don't fucking know. I just hear people saying it. - You sound great. - Yeah, no, that's fine. 'Cause that's like the standard, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a standard Hyojungul. Like there's standard regular language. - Right, right, right. - But my grandma's like cousin, dead ass, she ended all of her sentences with nya. And I'm just like- - I love it.

And I was just like, the weave inside of me is frothing. - It's a real thing. - It's a real thing. - It's a real anime character. - It's like, I thought she was like putting it on, but I'm like, why would this like 90 something year old, like four foot tall grandma be putting on her ending all of her sentences ending in - Weaves are like, we found the promised land. - Go to that village. - Super tiny village in the middle

- You will find a village where everyone ends their sentences with nyai. - So these people who are posting online were secretly from Japan the whole time. - The whole time. - Oh my God, my eyes are truly open. - You know, older people in, I don't know if it's all of Japan, but like in my area,

- So like, yeah, like, right? But like, not like that though, right? It literally is like that type of ending. - Yeah, it's like, so it'll be .

- Like it's like dead ass. Like I wish I was making that up, but it's so fucking weird. I'm like, that is fucking adorable, but you're also like 93. - A hundred. - You're like a hundred years old. - And you're saying nya nya. - Which one says uwu at the end? - That's the other village. - It's an Okinawa, right? - Yeah, they all walk around like this. - It's uwu, right? - That's how they say hello. - Oh no, no.

- Oh my God. - I'm curious, like, do you ever hear a British accent or like an English dialect that you have trouble understanding? - There will be one, I guarantee you'll be like, "What the fuck are they saying?" - I mean, honestly, I haven't, I'm sure there are. I just haven't come across any. - Cockney for me is like- - That's pretty tame. - Yeah. - Really? - The more north you go, the more like, "What the fuck did you just say?"

- Oh man, I've never experienced it. - Especially in England, the more north I go, the more like you start squinting with your ears. Just be like, oh. - Because what they do is that they start replacing common words with just their own version. And sometimes it's that person specific. - Oh my God. - But everyone around them just knows 'cause it's like everyone, I don't know, it's really bizarre. - It's like we've hung out with you long enough. - Yeah, it's conceptual. Yeah, yeah, where everyone just says the same thing and it was just really bizarre. - Can you mimic

that I may not possibly understand. - There's so many British words that when people tell me them, I'm like, I don't know what that means on its own, but when using the sentence, I'm like, I know what he's talking about. - I feel like in the UK, the further North you go, the more the sentence just turns into like, mush.

- Yeah, something like that. There was a post on Twitter, it was like, "What is this?" And it was like, British people were applying and it was an alleyway. But there was like 10 different ways of saying an alleyway in like British English. Well, it's not official, but like slang. And then it was like, 'cause I saw it 'cause it was a quote we treated, it was like, "Americans must be losing their mind right now." There was tons, I gotta find this tweet. - What do you call it? - I call it an alleyway. But then again, I've been Americanized.

- Doing this job, I've had to really like kick out the very dialect specific words. - I say cell phone, I say elevator now. - Oh really? - Yeah. - Yeah. - 'Cause I used to say lift, but every time I've met an American, they were like, what the hell's a lift? - Oh, instead of loft. - Flat. - Oh, I'm sorry. - Loft. - What are you on about? Fuck you saying Raina? - My bad.

- Yeah, but they're so contextual though. Like you can figure it out. - Sometimes. - Sometimes. - If you understand what they're saying in the first part. - There's been so many moments where I thought this was just like a universal word until I said it to an American. They were like, what's that? 'Cause like, I always thought like Laurie

- Oh yeah. - It's just like everyone said it. A lorry driver. - Yeah, a lorry driver. - How do you spell it? L-O-R-Y. - L-O-R-Y. - Yeah. - Uh-huh. - Like lorry. - It's not a truck, it's a lorry. - Well, you know, like a pram.

instead of a stroller. Like in America, it's a stroller, right? You put your baby in a stroller. No, in Australia, we call it a pram. - It's okay, in Japan it's a baby car. - Yeah, I was gonna say, I prefer baby carriage. - Baby compartment. - A pram? - A pram. - Pram. - P-R-A-M. - But like, not pram, like English A, like-- - Pram. - Pram. Oh, that is a little bit long. Okay, interesting, interesting. - But it's like, I thought everyone in the world called it a pram.

And you know, babies wear nappies, right? - Doppers? - No, no, they wear nappies. - I was like, what is it then? Tell me. What are they wearing? - Yeah, straight up, just give them a leaf. - Just slap it on, so there you go, you're done.

- That was a weird way to fucking end. - What a way to end. - In Australia, we call them nappies. Thanks for watching Trash Taste. - Well, grab your bottle of water and- - A bottle of water. - But I guess where can people find you on YouTube or whatever? Anything you wanna promote? - Sure, sure. You can find me on youtube.com/Raina Scully. Everything else is just Raina Scully. My Twitter, Instagram, everything like that.

- Maybe on Twitch in the future. - Maybe on Twitch in the future, yeah. - I'll be sure to lurk your Twitch and never say anything. - You're right, that is what I mean.

- I'll stop you guys. - I'll talk to a Japanese. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be sure to like actually- - Whenever you see like a Japanese text pop up, like now you'll look twice. - Yeah, exactly. - Make sure. - But yeah, guys go check out Raina. - Thank you. - Thank you for being a wonderful guest. - Thank you very much. - This was so much fun. I can't even tell you how much joy

- It's just been good to catch up. - Yeah. - It's been far too long. - Yeah. And I think we were saying this during one of the breaks, but like I got to talk about so many things I never got to reveal and it was actually really good. - Trash test coming at you with the exclusivity. - But also thank you very much to our lovely patrons. - Yeah, look at them. - Thank you so much. - Look at all the names. - Who's your favorite one, Raina? - Point to it.

- Yeah, there you go. - I was gonna say that one too. One person watching this is like, "Yes!" - But yeah guys, if you enjoyed it and wanna support the show, make sure to go to patreon.com/trashtaste. Also follow us on Twitter, send us your memes on the subreddit, and if you hate our faces, listen to us on Spotify.

- Is that like an official thing that we say now? - Joey says it. - I legit haven't noticed that you've been saying the same thing every time. - I've been saying this for like 40 something hours. - Have you ever shouted out like on Reddit and Twitter? - No, Joey does it. - I don't think I have. I'm just like, okay. - Just leave it to me boys. I got a download too. - Yeah, but thanks for coming, Ryan. - Thank you so much. - Oh wait, I forgot to give you your gift.

- Oh, sure, sure. - It's not much. So I thought it would be cute if I brought a Mount Fuji. - Oh, let's go. - It's just, I think like crispy chocolate things. And this is kind of fucked up. - Oh, is it shit? - Well, RSD cards are full. So we're just gonna say bye now. Bye, thank you for watching. - Bye.