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183. Does the 4-day work week really work? with Jeanette Ramsden, CEO at The Curve Group

2025/3/27
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Jeanette Ramsden: 我是率先采用35小时灵活工作制的人之一,这比传统的四天工作制更进一步,因为它允许员工根据个人情况选择自己的工作模式,更好地平衡工作和生活。实施35小时工作制后,我们的公司绩效没有下降,员工的福祉和工作生活平衡得到了改善,员工留存率和招聘效率也得到了显著提升。当然,实施过程中也遇到了一些挑战,例如假期计算和会议安排等,需要提前做好规划和沟通。 此外,我还想强调的是,35小时工作制并不意味着员工可以懈怠,我希望员工能够全身心地投入到工作中。领导者需要以身作则,避免员工因为追求晋升而过度工作。 最后,我想说的是,创造一个积极的工作环境,鼓励员工互动和团队合作,非常重要。只有这样,才能让员工真正感受到工作的价值和意义。 Leanne Elliott: 我渴望实行四天工作制,但也感到害怕。 Al Elliott: 作为一名企业主,我很想知道35小时工作制如何在我们的公司中运作,以及如何才能在不牺牲客户服务的情况下实现这一目标。

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Jeanette Ramsden, CEO of The Curve Group, shares her experience transitioning to a 35-hour flexible workweek. This approach, unlike a traditional four-day workweek, allows employees to customize their schedules, benefiting parents and others with diverse needs. The transition involved adjustments to salary, holiday calculations, and meeting schedules, but resulted in no dip in productivity.
  • Transitioned to a 35-hour flexible workweek, not a four-day workweek.
  • Employees can choose their own flexible work pattern.
  • No dip in productivity observed.
  • Adjustments needed for salary, holiday calculations, and meetings.
  • Client buy-in was crucial for success.

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Welcome back to Truth, Lies and Work, the award-winning psychology podcast from the HubSpot Podcast Network, hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott.

🎙 Meet Our Guest: Jeanette Ramsden

This week, we're chatting with Jeanette Ramsden, CEO of The Curve Group—a top UK-based HR and recruitment consultancy that's successfully transitioned its entire workforce to a flexible 35-hour working week. Jeanette is known for shaking up outdated workplace practices and creating thriving cultures built on trust, flexibility, and genuine employee wellbeing.

📌 What's Covered in This Episode?

Jeanette joins us to discuss her real-world experience in ditching the traditional five-day workweek. You'll hear about the practicalities of implementing true workplace flexibility, from managing client expectations to recalculating holiday entitlements. She shares why genuine flexibility—rather than simply giving everyone Friday off—is crucial, especially for employees juggling caregiving responsibilities.

We also dive into how reducing hours has actually boosted productivity and engagement across her business. Jeanette challenges the common misconceptions that fewer hours equal less productivity and explains how a flexible approach has significantly improved employee retention and satisfaction at The Curve Group.

🚀 Connect with Jeanette & The Curve Group

Jeanette Ramsden on LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanette-ramsden-0946a83/)

Visit The Curve Group website:

https://www.thecurvegroup.co.uk/)

Explore insights and webinars from The Curve Group:

https://www.thecurvegroup.co.uk/insights/)

📅 What’s Coming Up Next?

Join us next Tuesday for another episode of our regular This Week in Work segment. Expect the latest workplace news, our famous Workplace Surgery, and another bold hot take from an industry expert! 🔥🎙

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Thanks for tuning into Truth, Lies and Work—see you next week! 👋

General Support with Mental Health and Well-being

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Mind website: https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/)

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