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cover of episode 200. Rule-benders, quiet quitting and the DEI dilemma. PLUS! Is happiness overrated? With Julian Hayes II

200. Rule-benders, quiet quitting and the DEI dilemma. PLUS! Is happiness overrated? With Julian Hayes II

2025/5/27
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Leanne:在领导力方面,我们实际上更喜欢叛逆者还是规则追随者?我一直在研究信任心理学,以及为什么有些人通过绕过规则而不是遵守规则来赢得信任。研究表明,人们对变通规则的领导者比严格遵守规则的领导者更信任,因为他们认为变通规则的领导者更具创新精神和企业家精神。规则变通者能够巧妙地在规则的边缘游走,在不完全打破规则的情况下找到解决方案,这让他们看起来更有能力和值得信赖。规则遵循者虽然可靠,但缺乏创新能力和解决问题的能力,因此不太容易获得信任。而规则破坏者虽然大胆,但往往因为缺乏尊重规则和秩序而失去信任。 Al:我个人更喜欢打破规则的领导者,因为他们更具创新精神和企业家精神。他们敢于挑战现状,打破常规,为企业带来新的发展机遇。当然,打破规则也存在风险,但只要在可控范围内,这种风险是值得承担的。规则变通者能够巧妙地在规则的边缘游走,在不完全打破规则的情况下找到解决方案,这让他们看起来更有能力和值得信赖。规则遵循者虽然可靠,但缺乏创新能力和解决问题的能力,因此不太容易获得信任。而规则破坏者虽然大胆,但往往因为缺乏尊重规则和秩序而失去信任。

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This week, we’re celebrating our 200th episode by asking: – Why do some leaders earn more trust by bending the rules? – What’s the right move when an employee asks to borrow money? – And is it fair to expect “diverse” employees to do extra DEI work just because of who they are?

We’re also joined by Julian Hayes II for a Hot Take on why happiness might be the wrong goal for your workplace. Forget the ping-pong tables — let’s talk about what really matters.

🔥 News RoundupHappy staff = better business: The Sunday Times’ Best Places to Work 2025 report proves it’s not about perks, but about trust, ownership, and listening.https://www.thetimes.com/best-places-to-work/features-companies/article/best-places-work-companies-uk-2025-cpw5wnr2z)

$40 for loyalty? A Boston moving company boss went viral after an employee asked for a $40 loan — some say never lend to staff, others call it a loyalty-building move.https://x.com/salvin_joseph/status/1927002447974654253?s=12&t=Nu1sn41l6BG_ubgGziYG1g)

Rule-benders vs. rule-followers: A new study shows we trust rule-benders more than strict followers — and they might make the best leaders.https://www.bps.org.uk/research-digest/rule-benders-make-more-appealing-leaders-rule-abiders)

🔥 Hot Take: Happiness Is the Wrong Goal Julian Hayes II argues that we’ve been chasing the wrong metric: happiness isn’t enough to sustain performance or engagement. Real well-being comes from meaning, challenge, and shared purpose — not just feeling good in the moment.

Connect with Julian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianhayesii/

Julian's Website: https://www.executivehealth.io/

Julian's Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/executive-health-and-life/id1500205650

💬 This Week’s Workplace Surgery

The DEI overload dilemma: A listener asks how to push back when they’re constantly asked to be the “diverse” voice in interviews — even at the expense of their own work. – First-time manager nerves: Another listener wonders how to become more assertive without losing their friendly style. – The “I’ve stopped caring” slump: Finally, someone asks if it’s okay to check out at work when you’re not valued — or if they’re just giving up too easily.

🔗 General Support with Mental Health and Well-being – Mind UK: https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/)– Samaritans (UK): Call 116 123 or email [email protected])

💡 Connect with Al & Leanne – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork/)– Al: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott/)– Leanne: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne/)– Email: [email protected])– Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat)