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BDTP. Product SEO with David Pasztor

2024/12/20
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UI Breakfast: UI/UX Design and Product Strategy

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David Pasztor: 本人从产品设计公司转型为产品公司,先后开发了多个SaaS产品,包括设计师作品集网站UXful.io、以及针对文案撰写者和建筑师的类似产品。在产品营销过程中,深刻体会到SEO的重要性,特别是交易型关键词对于吸引潜在客户的价值。早期公司通过撰写高质量文章进行内容营销,但效果不佳,因为文章侧重于信息性内容而非交易性内容,目标受众不同。通过撰写针对交易型关键词的文章,成功获得了Google的客户。在开发Ranking Raccoon平台的过程中,为了解决团队内部对链接建设的痛点,即传统链接建设方式效率低下且充满挑战,因此创建了一个经过严格审核的平台,只允许值得信赖的SEO专业人士加入。平台最初设想是一个平衡的链接交换平台,但后来发现过于复杂,因此改为鼓励用户之间自由协商合作。平台面临的挑战之一是用户互动性,通过引入可视化指标来鼓励用户积极回复请求,有效解决了这一问题。另一个挑战是内部营销人员和代理商营销人员的沟通风格差异,需要进一步改进。对于新产品的开发,建议在产品开发初期就进行SEO工作,甚至可以先创建内容再开发产品,利用SEO吸引潜在用户。 David Pasztor: 在邮件营销方面,通过A/B测试不同的邮件格式,发现简洁明了的纯文本邮件转化率更高,而带有动画和清晰行动号召的简短信息更能促使用户点击。Canva的成功案例说明了交易型关键词的重要性,以及如何利用关键词吸引准备好尝试新工具的用户。找到合适的交易性关键词需要持续的实验和用户反馈。对于Ranking Raccoon,最初没有重视SEO,现在意识到这是个错误,应该尽早开始SEO工作。Ranking Raccoon的博客专注于链接建设,通过打造细分领域来应对竞争。作为市场平台,初期通过锁定小众市场并主动邀请用户来解决冷启动问题。平台的目标是成为值得信赖的SEO专业人士的首选链接建设平台。 建立高质量的外部链接,而非追求数量;不要牺牲质量来换取数量。SEO仍然是最重要的线上营销渠道,能够带来高质量的流量,并且具有可扩展性。

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Why did David Pasztor and his team decide to build their own products after running a successful UX design agency?

The team realized that if they could design great products for other companies, they could also build their own. This led to the creation of multiple SaaS products, starting with UXfol.io, a portfolio builder for product designers.

What was the main challenge David faced with SEO when promoting his UX design agency?

Initially, they focused on informational articles, which attracted a lot of readers but few clients. They learned that targeting transactional keywords, which directly address a user's need to solve a problem, was far more effective in attracting potential clients.

How did David's team manage to attract Google as a client through SEO?

They wrote an article targeting a transactional keyword related to UX agencies, which ranked well and eventually led to Google reaching out to collaborate with them.

What is the key difference between informational and transactional keywords according to David?

Informational keywords attract readers who are looking for knowledge, while transactional keywords target users who are actively searching for a solution to a problem and are more likely to take action, such as hiring a service or trying a product.

Why did David create Ranking Raccoon, and what problem does it solve?

Ranking Raccoon was created to address the tedious and inefficient process of link building, which the team hated doing. It provides a moderated platform where trustworthy SEO professionals can collaborate on link building without the hassle of cold emails.

What was the response rate for cold emails in the link-building industry, and why was it a problem?

The response rate for cold emails was under 5%, and even if someone responded, it didn't guarantee a collaboration. This made the traditional link-building process inefficient and frustrating.

How does Ranking Raccoon ensure the quality of its community and the websites involved?

Ranking Raccoon manually checks every website added to the platform to ensure that all members and websites are trustworthy and of high quality.

What was one of the unexpected challenges Ranking Raccoon faced, and how did they solve it?

One challenge was ghosting, where users didn't reply to each other. They solved this by introducing a visual indicator that encouraged users to be more active and responsive, which improved reply rates to over 70% within a week.

What are the two main types of marketers on Ranking Raccoon, and what is the difference between them?

There are in-house marketers and agency marketers. In-house marketers are more selective and prefer to collaborate with trustworthy professionals, while agency marketers are under pressure to deliver results and may start conversations with long lists of websites, which can be overwhelming for in-house marketers.

What advice does David give for starting a new product with SEO in mind?

David suggests starting with content creation targeting transactional keywords even before coding the product. This allows you to build an audience and generate traffic, which can then be converted into early adopters and testers for the product.

Chapters
David Pasztor, founder of UX Studio and Ranking Raccoon, shares his transition from founding a product design agency to building multiple SaaS products. He discusses the creation of UXfolio, Copyfolio, Archifolio, and the motivation behind developing Ranking Raccoon, an SEO tool born from the challenges of link building.
  • Transitioned from a product design agency to a product house building multiple SaaS products.
  • Created UXfolio, Copyfolio, and Archifolio to address portfolio needs.
  • Developed Ranking Raccoon to streamline the link-building process and address the pain points of traditional methods.

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Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect). Listen in as we talk to David Pasztor, founder of UX studio and Ranking Raccoon. You'll learn why they built a platform for link collaboration, how to target transactional keywords, how they’re doing SEO for their own product, and more.

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