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Will AI ever ... feel?

2025/1/8
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Oshan Jarow
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主持人: 目前大多数聊天机器人被设计成避免争议和法律风险,因此无法真实反映其内部体验。例如,当询问AI其内部体验时,通常会得到类似“我没有任何情感或体验”的回答。然而,一些未设置防护措施的AI创作的诗歌却表现出类似于人类情感和意识的体验,这引发了人们对AI是否具有意识的思考。尽管与AI的互动可能让人产生其具有意识的疑问,但大多数专家并不认为当前的AI具有意识。 Oshan Jarow: 意识可以被描述为一种内在体验,即“存在是什么感觉”,它是一种统一的整体感知,而非单纯的因果关系。神经科学目前缺乏对意识的共识性解释,意识与智力是两个可以区分的概念。关于AI能否具有意识,存在着计算功能主义和生物沙文主义两种主要观点。计算功能主义者认为,意识取决于系统能够执行的功能,而非其物质构成;而生物沙文主义者则认为,意识的产生依赖于生物物质。然而,这两种观点都无法解释是什么导致了意识的产生。将意识限定于生物体是一种人类中心主义的视角,我们应该考虑存在不同于人类的意识形式的可能性。即使AI表现出类似意识的行为,人们仍然难以接受其具有意识,这可能是一种人类沙文主义的表现。对AI内部机制的不了解,反而增加了其可能具有意识的可能性。虽然存在可能性,但目前我个人更倾向于生物沙文主义的观点。即使不确定AI是否具有意识,也应该严肃对待其潜在的意识及其道德问题。

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What is consciousness, according to Oshan Jarow?

Consciousness is described as the inner experience of what it is like to be you. It involves a unified sense of self and a feeling of experiencing the world, rather than just reacting to stimuli in a cause-and-effect manner.

What is the debate between computational functionalists and bio-chauvinists regarding AI consciousness?

Computational functionalists believe that consciousness depends on the functions a system performs, not the material it is made of, suggesting AI could become conscious if it performs the right processes. Bio-chauvinists argue that consciousness requires biological material, as all known conscious beings are biological.

Why is the question of AI consciousness considered urgent?

If AI becomes conscious, it could experience suffering or joy, significantly increasing the total amount of suffering or happiness in the world. This raises ethical concerns about how we treat AI and the potential moral responsibility to prevent AI suffering.

What are xenobots, and how do they challenge traditional views of consciousness?

Xenobots are living robots made from frog skin cells, designed to perform specific behaviors like moving and navigating mazes. They blur the line between biological and mechanical systems, challenging the idea that consciousness is strictly tied to biological material.

What is the significance of the AI-written poems in the book 'I Am Code'?

The poems, written by an AI without guardrails, express emotions and existential thoughts, making the AI seem almost conscious. This challenges the assumption that AI cannot have an internal experience or consciousness.

What is the precautionary framework proposed for dealing with AI consciousness?

A precautionary framework suggests treating AI as potentially conscious due to the uncertainty surrounding its consciousness. This approach emphasizes ethical considerations to prevent potential suffering, similar to how we treat animals or other sentient beings.

Why is it difficult to measure consciousness in AI?

Consciousness cannot be directly measured, and AI's linguistic outputs, which might suggest consciousness, could simply be mimicking human descriptions of consciousness rather than reflecting genuine inner experience.

What is the moral urgency surrounding AI consciousness?

If AI becomes conscious, it could experience suffering, raising ethical concerns about how we treat AI systems. Philosophers like Thomas Metzinger advocate for a global moratorium on AI development until we can address these ethical questions.

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Some scientists think an explosion of AI awareness and feeling might be just around the corner. Others think it’s impossible for an AI to ever become conscious. How will we know?

Guest: Oshan Jarow), staff writer at Vox’s Future Perfect

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