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Ten of A T, V in atlantic this is up and vanished. The investigation of their granted i'm your host pain since the last episode has spent some major movement in the case against ryan duke for the murder of Terry grinstead on April twelve, two thousand and seventeen, a grand jury hearing was held in the course in a sila.

Hi, thank lady gene. If you all just have a shape or just a minute and you'll be .

on your way for the first time, the state president evidence to a group of nineteen grand jurors to indite ran due for telegram. Deze murder now represent .

iron county for this term of court, we consider release cases and appreciate your attention.

The evidence heard by the grand jury was to .

remain secret. Keep the deliberations of the grand jury secret, if you will, deliver.

And around midday on apple twelve, the world began circling that they made a decision.

They have a whole bunch of cases and they already know everything. There's nothing after that .

at all the charges. They just handed up the entitlement in a .

process that sometimes takes days. The grand jury made a decision to indite ryan duke on all charges in just a matter of hours. We are learning more tonight for the first time about those final few minutes of terror and dads life .

by grand jury standards. This entire and came fairly quickly in this high profile case is the next legal step and answering and often ask questions in this town, what exactly happened in this small house? The six counts indepth accuses our encounter, resident ryan duke, a felly murder, mAlice murder, aggravated assault, burgers and concealing a death. The inditement reads do killed grinstead with his hand and committed felony murder by entering her home with the intent to commit that and causing the death of, said terrific grinstead during the commission .

of the burglaries.

Remember that burglary charge and ryan dux arrest warrants as IT turns out, the state's narrative is that ryan duke killed tera during a burger with the intent to commit theft. So the same, he was there to rob tera. The question is robb her of what, reviewing the court documents of ryan dux, entitled I noticed something odd D. Among the twenty names listed as the members of the grand jury was dusty vassy, the reporter from the oyle, a newspaper, but his name had a line through IT. IT had been crossed .

out in ten.

I called the asking about this.

I was in there that granic arrest was analyst. I was the thing, oh, my good. I'm on this grand jury, right? And I mean, you know, this is, sit in my mind, less, almost two months.

You know, they pick up pool. And then based on who shows up, this is my number really that that did you get selected? And I was like, number seven or something. So I was like, definitely on there this first time I been on a grand jury, your own there for six months term, decided really know the end and out of exactly what that all of all the times to get picked for my first grand jury. And in two weeks later, there's a rest in the day grant case.

just a few weeks before ryan duke was arrested, does he got a letter in the mail saying that he would be serving as a member of the grand jury for the upcoming term? Then ironically, not too long after ryan duke was arrested for terrorist murder, he was going to beyond grand jury in the states case against ryan duke, the unsolved mastery he had covered dozens of times and no soul's newspaper for over a decade. And just a few days before the hearing, he got an important phone call.

Well, the judge called me yesterday and asked me if I come out to. He actually said, you know, he wanted me on the jury because he thought I would be a nice, but you know, he he interested this. So that kind of a pretty ous decision for me to be in.

And he want me to feel like I had to given my position. You know, he wanted to give me the opportunity if I wanted to get off, you know, get out the dangerous. And we talked about IT and IT would be difficult me to report on.

And people might accuse me to say, say that all he this, you know what happened in the grand jury room and that's illegal. And could they said that may be in prosecuted defect? That and you proved that I got my information from somewhere else.

You know, I was a very tough decision because, I mean, I wanted to do my that would be available person to have in that room because what I know about the case, I knew I was kind of leaning toward, you know, asking off, but I didn't know what I was going to choose. And I suggest I, like, is this forever? Like, if you can record on what happens at room forever? Like, is not just the thing in the case.

And he said, yeah, if I have been here with a one day report on what happened in that room, I would have bridge went in their room, you know. But no one that I never would build more on that I figured IT best to just be safe and not in IT. I say a lot respect for for just dan art had some dance to yesterday, said mayor, you know, inform you, talk me about something that that I might want to think about so he wasn't going to like saying you should step down. I figured you would kind of give me the option, and which which is exactly what definitely did not IT even come close to putting pressure on me to do IT. In fact, I mean, everything he said was he said officially, I want to you on the jury, but i'd also understand the positioning and and I want to give you that opportunity.

After putting a tremendous count of thought into a dusty made a tough decision to excuse himself from the grand jury.

but I think is right decision. You know, part of me regret IT, but but I do think that was the best one.

In the last episode before the indictment, I spoke with Colin Miller from undisclosed about the grand jury hearing. Now the ryan duke has been edited. I sent call all the court documents and follow up with them. Are you surprised at how quickly they were able to deliver this indictment?

Not necessarily. I saw. I was about three and a half hours. And assuming it's not a highly complex case, might have had a few very good witnesses, some pretty key evidence and been pretty open and shut.

My best guest would be that ryan duke has made some type of incriminatory ory statement, and if you have makes an indictment of fairly quick process now, there might be evidence on the defense side, which wouldn't be presented to the grand jury. But my best, best for a three and a half hour and detection would be that rine due because said something himself that tends to incriminate themselves. And that makes me very easy for the grand rate to say there are certainly probable caused for .

this case to get a trial. If he did admit to this or have a confession, then could they just basically feel this thing up right now and taken to the judge and science and papers?

The question is how terminator was the statement? Is his claim that he, for whatever reason, has a mental and paramon or made IT up? There's a lot of joking that still can go on in terms of plea bargaining, and there's the other individual involved. So there's a lot of still network that has to be done before we have a resolution.

Whenever ran dukes arrest warns first came out, we talked a lot about the definition of burglary, and that was one of the charges that was presented to ran duke specifically in the indictment. They say that ryan duke was there with the intent to commit a theft.

Yeah, I understanding the first would be that this was a theory of burglar where he was breaking into the house to cause her harm. And i'm not sure maybe in your reporting you've come across something, but I don't know what the theft would be, what property he was intending to steal under the theory. Maybe IT is back to the theory that he said something is possible that either confessional criminal rate statement, he mentions that being a reason he entered the house maybe, but duke has said something along this line. So that makes me think that there must be something there, probably for one of those two indicating some type of an intent to steal, because otherwise I don't really see what the evidence .

would be based on how fast it's moves so far. What do you anticipate happening next? win? Yes.

to now there will be discovery going back and forth, which is their certain obligations on both the prosecution and the defense to disclose what evidence they have, what witnesses are going to call. There could be plea bargaining depending upon the suitability of the prosecution and defense to negotiate the plea. There's the right to a speedy trial, which generally you're looking at eight months or less.

Once you start getting past eight months, the defender might have a claim that it's violated his right to a speedy trial. So that would be the best guess. This being a cold case for a while.

IT may extend beyond that a bit. Many states, but not georgia, have a specific speedy trial act that sets particular deadlines. Georgia doesn't have that.

But again, georgia is like kinda says, after eight months of past from the entire minutes, generally preventively prejudicial to the defendants and the sort of a multi fact the court looks at beyond a month yeah d be surprised that this extends much past eight months based upon the three and half hours before the grand jury IT makes me think that this is a fairly straightfor case with only a handful of witnesses and some documentary evidence, which tend to the shorter side. But again, there's this wrinkle of the burgers in the theft. So there are possible complications that could extend IT further.

But you know, eight months would be my general guess. The amount of time for the grand jury proceeding can say with any certainty. But IT makes me think that he said something because for that sort of a period of time to be in place and to have this charge of burgers based upon intended theft, IT makes me think that there are had to almost be something coming from him where he was laying out what happened in this crime.

After reviewing the court documents for ryan dux entitled, I then compared them to his original arrest warn, and I noticed something for clear. The original arrest form for ran duke says that he uses hands in an offensive manner with the intent to indeed cause serious bodily harm to the person of terror inside. But the enticement documents say something different. The enticement reads this, ryan duke, unlovely, made in the soul upon the person of terr, instead, with the use .

of his hand, singular.

not hands, like the arrest warn. At first I thought, no big deal, maybe it's a typo, but then they say IT again that he uses hand, not his hands. Not only is that information very specific, but the fact they're alleging ryan due kill tera with one hand seem to auto itself. I asked phillip away about this.

Well, i've said all along that the arrest warrants could have been worded a little Better. And we don't know if that was on purpose or if I was just they were done quickly, who knows, but they're definitely is the difference between the allegations contained in the arrest war. Now the warrants are not the official charging documents.

So we have to believe that the district attorney was more precise in making their allegations because if they accuse one thing like plural being hands and IT turns out to be one hand, that could be something that a jury could get hung up on. So it's very important for a prosecutor to be accurate in the things that they allege in the endangerment. So unless it's a typo, and I doubt that IT is the formal allegation, is that only one hand was used to commit the aggravated assault, which they say lead to her death, I can think of multiple scenario where a person could hurt someone enough to kill them with one hand.

They predominated involve some type of strangulation. If you have someone who is sufficiently larger than the victim, I can be done with one hand. I can imagine lots of scenario. Maybe there's a one hands being used for one thing. And one hands being used for a note actually had cases that we're like that where a person was used was accused of using one hand to do one thing while they used the second hand to maybe hold someone's hand back or hold somebody down or something like that.

So I don't know what exactly that means could mean really any number of things, but it's it's definitely a distinction between the warrants and the formal accusation, which is the grand juries and diamond d as a latter phrase in law where we say the algoma, the allegations much matched ed, the promoter, which is the evidence of the property information. So in this case, if they believe that the death was caused by only one hand, they would need that allegation to match whatever evidence they believe that they have. precisely.

I think it's it's a guess, but it's an educated guess. I'm fairly certain that they're going off of statements that were made by ryan duke and a minimum certain admissions against his legal interest posture of four confession or maybe something in between, we just don't know, but I believe that IT probably would have been a confession. That's how they would know that level of detail.

Yet people can minimize their behavior. And IT IT happens all the time. I've seen IT in my office. I've seen IT in courtrooms. I've seen IT when I was a couple street.

People may come in and admit to part of something that not all of them, and they may give you enough to satisfy the elements of the office so that the charge can go through. They complete to IT, or they can be tried on IT. But sometimes people don't tell necessarily the whole truth.

They don't want themselves to look quite as bad in the eyes of the cops, or maybe their parents, their family, the public, who knows? But the distinction between hands plural and hands singular is important. What exactly they're saying happened with that hand to cause the death IT was not specified. And I think I should have been specified to some degree in the environment. And it's just another reason I have the personal opinion that this case may not go to trial because if you're not going to have a defense that's going to be chAllenging, the language of the environment is safe to draft one that doesn't have that level of detail.

So they are saying that ryan duke went to terrorist house unlawfully with the intent of stealing something and then killed her with one hand. And then they took her body by himself to that peak on orchard. And no one ever saw IT.

They also say that he went in with the intention of committing aggravated a soul. So let's look at IT like this. In fact, your house and I kill you, which i'm not a promise, but if I do, and I take you out your body and you've got your wedding ring on, could I be charged with stealing that wedding? Yeah, course I could to.

That thing I could be charged with burglar of your house with the intention of committing theft, even though that really want my primary intention. If he gave information that said that I removed her body or I took her purse for this, the reason that's a theft. So if a theft occurred, then it's logical to infer that that was at least part of his intention was to commit first, which gives rise to the basis for the burglar. So it's possible that there was many things that he had in his head at the time, and one of those things was an intention .

to commit the theft. If he had used an object to kill her with one hand, would that be specified?

They are alleging that his hand was that object. Because think about IT, if your hand is holding a gun and you shoot someone, they are going to say, with a gun, okay, or if it's a land post, they're going to say a lap post OK. So so if you're holding an object, whether IT be this microphone here or a knife or anything else, and you use that object, they're going to allege that object.

But if there is no object and it's only your hand, they're going to allege that IT was the hand that was the instrumental ity of the death. The prosecutor has to be as specific as possible and the evidence must match the allegation. And if the evidence was that only one hand was used and that's what the and diagnosed say. And if the evidence was a statement by the defendant, then they're going to be working off that statement. Whether it's that statement entirely true or not is a whole different discussion.

Since rand duke was arrested, his facebook account has gone off line, but last week, for just a couple of hours, IT randomly came back. During this time period, I was able to obtain screen shots of some of ran dux facebook status updates over the past couple of years, and to say that they were interesting would be a major understatement. Because ryan dukan, I were not friends on facebook, only some of his contents was available.

I'll start with the earliest facebook status. December twelfth, two thousand and fifteen, two roads emerged in the woods. I took the one less traveled, and IT made all .

the difference. June .

sixteen s two thousand fifteen, relatively grabbing electric wire. A second feels like an hour. Find yourself in the arms of a beautiful woman.

An hour seems like a second. If I was a lying, cheating, driving method s or wife beating us, i'd have friends fuck being a good person. June seventeenth, two thousand fifteen read the bible, then try to judge me.

hypocrites. The tiktok of the clock is painful, all saying and logical. If you like me, then will forgive me or you lying about being a jesus freak.

I wonder what i'll miss golden rule plus, but goes around, comes around. I am what I am, june teeth, two thousand and fifteen. I can't sleep again.

I wanna sleep, but thanks anyway, as anxiety. March nine, two thousand sixteen, love is the only cure for the stupidity and hate. Love is that simple.

Love will mend your soul. June eight, two thousand sixteen, walk alone and your shadow will be your only friend. June tenth, two thousand and sixteen, I built my world of legos.

Then I tore my world in life down. Edwy seventeen s two thousand seventeen less than a week from when ryan duke was arrested for telegram, says murder. To be yourself in a world is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.

A president ryan dux facebook messages to forensic psychologist dog Miller, who we talk to in last week's case evidence. I wanted to get his take on this.

So my first impression is, there some bitterness here, this all kind anger toward life, this feeling misunderstood by others. There's little pain in this. As I go one by one, you'll hear where i'm getting some of that. This is a sense of feeling misunderstood by society, by the world. The one about two words emerging, the words I took, the one less travelled that made all the difference.

You know, i'm sure you, where I go with that is that the night of the crime? Yeah, you know, beginning to get this general oppression that here's a guy who seems committed this murder and he's kind of boston at the seems that he knows he can't tell anyone yeah, but it's like leaking out in these other symbolic I talked about symbolic expiation before and kind of dealing with the skills. Lt, you know, as a psychologist is there's some conscious communication in all this that you just have to may be read a little bit between the lines or and again, none of this means anything till IT ties into more factual, solid information.

This is kind of, and this is the way my great professor, really craic, talked about IT, that when you do a psychological evaluation, the more substantial data from the test results and the harder day to kind of form the skeleton, and then these kinds of statements and those sense complete responses, you kind of hang on the skeleton and that support IT and fill IT out and make IT more whole. Two one sixteen, two thousand fifteen he facebook if I was a lying, cheating feeing method or wife beating outside of friends f being a good person, a bitterness, I mean that feeling like he's a good guy and the world is an understanding him. Yes, you know, if that was before the crime, you get the sense that this guy's kind of an outsider and is kind of angry about IT and doesn't see the world is IT just a fair place.

You know, one of these doesn't mean to hold lot. There's been times when we've all felt something like that. Me, yeah course.

You know, now this whole thing about feeling judged, you read the bible, then try to judge me. He crit. You know, who's judging him, you know, is the question and what happened.

So I could have been something specific at church or could have been would someone who talk to, you know, but if you plugged IT into the case, you know he's probably judging himself about what happened, giving one set of kind of one picture of who is. And then he's projecting that on the world. He's judging himself.

Projections on the world feels like the world is judging him. Maybe he has a history of that going back was in a popular king, felt judged that sort of thing. Now we has this hainous act that he's committed and may and IT seem to felt horrible about, maybe even traumatize himself with.

And this is almost like he's crying out for forgiven us. If you don't like that, well, forgive me. Are you lying about being a jesus free, free again? That kind of forgiveness, the tiktok of the clock, is painful, all saying and logical.

That just feels like a man who's in pain and time is going by, and he's just in pain. And time is this relentless, reasonable, systematic thing that's ordered. And he's in this kind of tortured state golden room. Plus, what goes around comes around again, like this kind of calling for compassion, calling for understanding, kind of the rule of carmo.

What goes around comes around, who knows? And you know, these would be things that, like, if I was working with them, evaluating him about one to know, i'd ask him what was going on your mind at that point. I want to sleep, but thanks, anyway, anxiety. And that you speaks to me that if he was having night terrors, people who have night terrors often have driver sleeping because they go to sleeps and they get terrorized.

So me, if he was having sleeping problems in two thousand five thousand six and in two thousand fifteen, they either stopped and came back.

or they were, they were all all having that. They were, they are all long, and for whatever reason, but also as if IT was post traumatic nightmares, then they were probably relatively continuous, perhaps with an amban flow, depending on a stress level, relatively grab in electric wire. Second, feels like an hour.

Find yourself in the arms of a beautiful woman. Hour seems like a second boy. That's a romantic thought, and it's also a paint like, it's also just like, like, who's gona grab an electric wire? This is a man looking full.

Love wants to be. Love wants to be held by a beautiful woman. Walk alone and your shadow will be your only friend. Now that IT suggests these walking alone, now what's the shadow? The shadow is shadowed by light, psychologically speaking well.

And IT can also be the dark side of ourselves, the things we I want to, things we're pressing down and something menacing. Then, you know, here's this kind of spiritual sentiment. Love is the only cure of for the stupidity and hate.

Love, it's that simple lovel meant you saw, is a romantic guy. There's a guy who wants love and the values love, kind of this existence, al ones start bitterness. I I built my world of legos.

Then I told my world in life, down again, you as a whole, it's a bitterness. It's this yearning for love as a solution is some feeling, judge, and may be guilt and wanting to be seen in a more positive light. His facebook profile picture, IT looks like a Young man or other boy with the flowers behind his back, standing face to face with the Young woman or all the girl. I don't know he has like a sort or something behind her.

I think it's a baseball bat. yeah. Is SHE. It's a little boy and a little girl. And the little boy has roses behind his back, and the girl has a baseball.

But so this immediately puts me on the track of what was ryan's romantic life, like what was going on there? IT. Was he a guy who all he really wanted to do was give a woman who he loved some roses and he felt like he was going to get back by a bat every time we did that.

And there's some other text that supports that in here, isn't there? yes. So there we are back again. This kind of guy, unrequited love, passion, a guy who doesn't feel, understand, it's a powerful image.

I would pursue .

that image and see what that meant to him.

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Over the past few weeks, i've been caring through old audio clipsed of different interviews i've had throughout the past year in this case, and I came across the conversation I had with mary gobin about two months before ryan due was arrested. I was asking him for more details about the condition of terrorist house and also the condition of a car in the car port. I was told that terra left something strange in her car.

Hundred dollars in understanding that came from was given to her bb page. I grow a padger.

found an envelope console .

and envelope .

with the hundred doors. Cash in IT was found sitting in terrorist unlock car in the car play. Or is the deal with that or is the money for, I don't know, is very unlike terror to leave cash out like that.

Ah especia door a lot. Red.

I asked worries about some of the other unexplained mysteries at terrorist house. Now keep in mind, this conversation took place before ryan dugs arrest. Why do you think her keys are gone? What would her phone be there and keys be gone?

Well, there's two ways you can look at that. She's the left with somebody that SHE SHE knew and the person and the keys were disposed of. What he .

was or .

SHE drove a car somewhere else, drove car somewhere else. Her car, yeah. And whatever happened to her happened there. And the person returned to car, but car keys with them a return, but returned to car, but likely print under car keys. right?

Do you think it's possible somebody came back and put her cell phone back inside her house?

That is very possible.

What do you think her keys in persons right now, with her, with her now? And another unexplained piece to the puzzle.

her earrings, gendered earrings, they are missing. They have been found.

The terrors out that was found at her house though, right?

yeah. Well, her undergarments were not. Yeah, the rest of ever found that the genes were over to left a lap on a little, just thrown there. Her coat was underbid. The clothes that we're lay in there, the two atoms commerce that you see lay in there with the shoes in front of test the door, are not anything that he had under there. Two different colors.

To make things even more confusing, the driver s seat and tears car.

the seat was pushed back lot more than he could be able to reached paddles more than what he could drive at a fast. When police .

inspected her car at monday morning, they thought her driver seat was pushed back, as if someone toler her had driven her car.

her seat would be right, that the stern will .

almost and the tires on .

tears core they had murmure on. The tars class murder model in .

the tires of her car was unusual. For one, SHE always kept her car clean in a maculate, and two based on tea time line and known warehouse, ts cant driven anywhere to collect this mud in the first place.

So why was IT there? That would be ual. He can exert care of that car.

And one more telling piece of information was about terrorist dog di.

When she's at home the dog was doubt when he was that if was that was out in in the backyard, the body was found in the back fence, in the sand sand area in the back.

the only time heroic dolly outside but when SHE wasn't at home, so assuming that terror did make IT home that night after the barbecue, why was dolly still left outside?

So what do you think happened? I mean, he leaves the barbecue. E, did he go home and change clothes?

This question, other than the phone and the genes at home, genes just thrown over there, what proof do you have that he even got home?

I have any proof.

According to the state's .

case against ryan duke, he allegedly killed tera inside her home that night while attempting to commit a theft. This narrative just didn't sit well with me, and I didn't IT well. What does he, vasa, either?

What is her first gone?

Because he left on her own?

Because he gotten her car and rove whether where he was going. Does that mean there is much bigger flaws, much as he was get of the house the dog was outside, the dog didn't bark, but many tires to seek me and lip bag one hundred dollars in the console, the the person being missed and the keys being missing, the and tape is. And all these things are don't make a lot of this.

Why move your body at all? Why if you're going to move your body driver twenty miles to the other side of fiscal, but change the location to the peak in order to and that makes a little more sense. I mean, the peak in order to makes a whole have a lot more sense for the place where he said that her house does.

I mean, I mean.

I don't know how he does at at the baking ordered, but as he does, does that a big in order? I mean, is he can very easily map out in the entire thing and in fit almost all the clues. There's a few things that don't really nice so that makes sense, like the how you leave her cell phone behind but anything that could be explained by somebody saying, oh, hi, they might be what of trying go to cell phone the words he's that maybe we should take about their house.

There was obviously still a ton of an answer questions to leave the barbecue sometime around seven P. M, and presumably goes home. Then sometime up for midnight, brian duke allegedly breaks into our house with the intent to commit a theft and then kills her, then, by himself, takes the body out to the orchard. But so many holes in the theory began to appear less and less likely to me. And then I got a phone call that would change everything I used.

I imply western can rock, employees can work. And I went the question, thanks. And what can help? There are about one thirty in the morning. We have our. And I was had a friend, fish White, I got home, cow him, so he know I got home.

okay? And I was so in my clock when I turned on my road here for the house, because I live one block ever from terror. And IT was one thirty.

I stop at that road. There's not a sad song that I thought because I have been risk there and I would. That's why.

And her car port lot was down, but her car was gone. And that was one third. this.

Grows off everything, SHE said at one thirty the morning that night terrors .

car was not .

in her then where was IT and more importantly, where was terror?

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Two months ago, just two days after ryan duke was arrested, I got an email from someone that someone was a former friend of bow dukes, the man charged with helping ryan cover up this heinous crime. At this point in time, b duc's. Name was not yet widely known, at least publicly, and his friend contacted me before, but duke was arrested.

This friend of his, who are referred to is, darn, share with me a lot of important information, which i'm about to begin sharing with you. Now IT all started with a phone call from bodgers friend that may not be calling darn for daren safety. We are not using his actual voice, but the following audio is our first phone call together.

I don't know in again, this is what i'm saying at this point and might be sure what he's capable anymore like he's not the same personnel ls friends with in order to mean like this do IT I have no idea what he's capable of of feeling is going to be very conviction towards anybody that less not against them.

So but when I was texting all of friday after ryan was arrested, basically the way posing and if he worked out the africa was arrested, he was able to freely talk about IT. But once again, and they have the ability to talk about IT, it's just based on we told the gb, I am not sure that will tell me a different story. I mean, you can read the text messages.

He seems pretty fucking open at all. That shit at the same time think you done enough to actually tell me the truth. There's a different truth.

I'll send you a fucking message or boat talks about how ryan, Larry ryan brought the body to be booking for and just dumped out on the edge of the form. And apparently he didn't til go about IT for four days. So funny, just like all this shit like I think boke us put by your podcast.

I really do, but those partners influences and telling brooke, I think you thought you were getting close but once again, as just speculation, as just me feel in out certain things, but that I really saying there fucking trolling people too. It's like because you have any fucking remorse for any ambition but I don't think he does do de is actually quite pretty brutal. I don't know. I mean, you actually send me text messers too of a shitty a discussion board. I was just like, fuck man, I come on.

Boin daring exchange a lot of text messages over the course of the past two months, and he sent me all of them. I'll start from the very beginning of the conversation on feber tenth, two thousand seventeen. This was two weeks before ryan duke was arrested to protect their in's identity. For the time being, I will be admitted most of what daring said in the conversations, and only reading those .

messages for .

future reference. Brook is both girlfriend. Boo begins the text message conversation with this.

Dude, I know I have been weird, but strange is happening. I'm sorry, bro. Old demons are coming to the surface. Things that should have dealt with years ago, criminal investigation things.

Darren says, i'll call you tomorrow, man who replies, okay then he, since daring a website link to up and vanish, that call both, then says this, I talk to the gb. I, A few months ago, I didn't kill her, but was involved. Darin says, what was the brick that shoot you guys? IT seemed like this case was dead or a brook come forward.

I read online that someone's girlfriend may have called in bow, replies brook let IT slipped to her mom. SHE tip off the g bi. Through a long negotiation between brook, the case agent myself and eventually in my lawyer in the, we worked out a deal IT worked out well for me at least.

And brook may get the reward, darin says. So when you get arrested and then they let you go after the trial, no replies, no, I won't be arrested or prosecuted at all. I'm glad my grandfather is in a live for this who would fucking kill me? Darn, says dude, who else knows about this besides you?

Both, replies Emily, two guys from a ciller brook, my cousin, and possibly others I don't remember telling please never bring me a dead body although now that i've had some practice 哒 哒哒。

Thanks for listening guys. I will be posting the screen shots of both dukes messages on the up and venture discussion board. See them yourself, go to up and vanish dot com slash discussion.

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