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The Sunday Story: NPR challenges U.S. denial of civilian harm in raid on ISIS leader

2023/9/24
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Daniel Estrin: 本报道质疑美国官方关于在击毙巴格达迪行动中没有造成平民伤亡的说法。记者采访了遇难者家属和幸存者,获得了与官方说法相矛盾的证词和证据,包括现场视频和幸存者的证言。此外,报道还指出,五角大楼的调查报告存在缺陷,缺乏证据支持其结论,警告射击与实际射击发生在同一地点,车辆几乎没有时间反应。 报道中还采访了军事专家Larry Lewis,他指出平民伤亡是可以避免的悲剧,军队应该改进与平民沟通的方式,避免误伤。 最终,由于NPR的报道,五角大楼表示愿意重新考虑此案。 Shara Fryer: 作为节目的主持人,Shara Fryer在节目中引导讨论,并对Daniel Estrin的调查结果进行总结和评论。她强调了美国政府在平民伤亡问题上并非总是坦诚,并指出五角大楼和遇难者家属对事件的描述存在矛盾。她还表达了对事件中平民伤亡的关注,并对幸存者的遭遇表示同情。 Barrett Ahmed Barkat: 巴格达迪行动的幸存者,在采访中讲述了事件发生当晚的经历,以及事件给他带来的严重伤害和生活困境。他强调自己和朋友是无辜的平民,对事件的发生感到冤枉,并希望美国政府能够承认错误并提供赔偿。 Larry Lewis: 军事专家Larry Lewis认为,平民伤亡是可以避免的悲剧,军队应该改进与平民沟通的方式,避免误伤。他指出,在巴格达迪行动中,军队使用的警告射击与实际射击时间间隔过短,车辆几乎没有时间反应,这导致了悲剧的发生。

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This episode investigates the night of the raid that killed ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. A journalist's four-year investigation challenges the US military's claim that no non-combatants were harmed, revealing conflicting accounts and prompting a Pentagon review.
  • The US military raid that killed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi resulted in civilian casualties, contradicting initial reports.
  • The Pentagon initially denied civilian harm but later agreed to review new information.

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Today on The Sunday Story, NPR's Daniel Estrin talks about his four-year long investigation into the night that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, founder of ISIS, died. The Pentagon maintains troops did not harm noncombatants. But Estrin's investigation challenges that account. Now the Pentagon says it will review new information brought to light about the incident.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)