In this special roundtable episode, Erik Torenberg is joined by Brad Hargreaves (the founder of Common, co-founder of General Assembly, and writer of Thesis Driven) and Noah Smith (podcast host, economist and writer of Noahpinion). They discuss the future of real estate and housing in America, the impact of regulations, and the potential of new cities.

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Econ 102 is Noah and Erik's podcast diving into the news, business, culture and society from the lens of economics. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/econ-102-with-noah-smith-and-erik-torenberg/id1696419056

Thesis Driven is a podcast hosted by Brad Hargreaves features conversations with the leading voices at the intersection of real estate, cities, innovation, and the built world. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thesis-driven-leader-series/id1724813949

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Links:

Noahpinion’s https://www.noahpinion.blog

Thesis Driven https://www.thesisdriven.com/

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@bhargreaves (Brad)

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

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TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Intro

(00:28) Understanding Real Estate Economics

(01:34) Role of Technology in Real Estate

(02:22) 2008 Financial Crisis and Real Estate

(06:31) Role of Banks in Real Estate

(10:14) Future of Real Estate and Housing

(16:01) Sponsor: Brave | Turpentine

(17:44) Impact of Regulations

(24:51) Real Estate Architecture’s Evolution

(29:48) Role of Developers in Real Estate

(40:21) Challenges of Building State Capacity

(51:53) Potential of New Cities

(01:00:33) Success of New Urbanist Towns

(01:01:53) Wrap

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E51: How We Build More Housing with Brad Hargreaves & Noah Smith