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BONUS: Wait Wait DNC Dispatch #1

2024/8/20
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Emma Choi: 由于民主党全国代表大会,航班延误,因为政客的飞机占据了空域,导致飞机长时间盘旋。 Ian Chilag: 进入民主党全国代表大会会场排队时间非常长,且组织混乱,部分原因是候选人更换和时间仓促,导致人们在漫长的队伍中等待,队伍的终点也不明确。 Peter Sagal: 民主党党纲存在明显的错误,例如重复提及拜登连任和对澳大利亚女子霹雳舞比赛结果的预测。在政治演讲准备过程中,协调中层政治人物的时间是一个巨大的挑战,甚至需要用到恳求、哀求、升级、贿赂和威胁等手段,有些演讲者甚至会临时更换演讲稿,例如Al Sharpton在2006年就曾临时更换演讲稿。优秀的演讲者能够调动现场气氛,而不仅仅是念稿,希拉里·克林顿的演讲就体现了这一点,她根据现场情况对演讲稿进行了即兴修改。 Ian Chilag: 大会上参会者的着装风格多样,既有正式的也有休闲的,一位来自北马里亚纳群岛的代表打扮成“威尔弗雷德”(Where's Waldo),增加了大会的趣味性,也体现了参会者表达个性的方式。民主党全国代表大会的设施不如共和党全国代表大会,但有一个仅限市长进入的酒吧,其准入制度严格,只有市长及其宾客才能进入,这增加了大会的趣味性。

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Attendees of the 2024 DNC in Chicago faced travel and logistical challenges. Flight delays occurred due to VIP arrivals, and exceptionally long lines at the United Center were attributed to protests and disorganization. Additionally, the Democratic Party platform had some editing errors, mentioning President Biden's second term multiple times despite his recent nomination.
  • Flight delays due to DNC caused attendees to circle for extended periods.
  • Long lines at the United Center caused significant delays for attendees.
  • The Democratic Party platform contained editing errors, including multiple mentions of a second term for President Biden despite his recent nomination.

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Well, this very official sounding music means Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, Illinois. For some reason, they gave us press credentials. I'm Ian Chilag. I'm a producer on the show. Hi, I'm Emma Choi. I'm also a producer on the show. And I am Peter Sagal, who is usually not trusted to produce anything. True. Emma and I are from out of town. We all arrived here barely in time for the day one gavel drop.

There were a number of travel snafus. I'm going to bring up some tape here. This is Emma talking to the person next to her on her flight from Boston. What's going on?

Well, we're on the plane and we've already had a few delays when we were leaving Boston. But now we were just told that we cannot land because there are politicians coming into the city for the DNC. So we're just circling around like Michigan, it looks like. But yeah, he said basically that we can't do anything about it and we're stuck up here. Emma, can you tell us what, how did you on the plane become aware of

of the situation, but that's why you were circling. Because the pilot came on to the intercom thing, and I was expecting him to be like, we're landing now in Chicago. But he said, so the DNC is this week, folks, and just want to let you know that we're holding because there are some politicians' planes in the area who are corrupting the airspace. So we'll be holding for about 20, 30 minutes. And the whole plane went, oh, boy.

Oh, boy. Is that the technical term for it? Corrupting the airspace? I will never forget that phrase. That's what he said. And I've never heard that phrase before. You know, I'm going to look up here. Corrupting the airspace. The next time we go through turbulence, I want the pilot to say, sorry, we had some corrupt airspace. So I'm Googling if this is an air traffic control term. It's not. Okay. Okay. Damn it. I just got jiggy with it. It just went crazy. Okay.

That's so funny. So we finally, we've made it here. We're so excited. We go over to the United Center and we get to the line. That was amazing. It was the longest line I think I've ever been in. It's a really long line. It's a very long line.

And it's one of those long lines where we can at least be grateful. 13 minutes and 55 seconds so far. 13 minutes and 55 seconds. Wow. But it's important to note that as long as the line is, people behind us will be waiting even longer. We're not even, we haven't made a lot of progress. How long have we been in this line? 26 minutes. 26 minutes and 10 seconds. Thank you.

We have moved. Yes. And we can see up ahead where the line... What if the line... What if we get to the end of the line and it's just the back of the line? Look at that one short story. That can't be it. 32 minutes. 32 minutes. So the first straightaway took us 32 minutes.

It's become a thing, by the way. Many, many reporters from the convention started by talking about the line, the daily. It was a crazy line because we didn't know where it ended. I mean, so we heard some people were saying that the line was long because there was a protest blocking one of the other entrances. So everybody was sent to one place and that was the problem. It just seemed kind of disorganized. They were kind of rushed.

for this DNC. You know, they changed out the candidate a month ago. I read that the platform, the Democratic Party platform, which they released on Sunday night,

It mentioned a second term for President Biden 19 times. Oh. Find and replace. It's not that hard. Gosh. That's proofreading, ladies and gentlemen. Damn. It's so important, especially in contemporary American politics. It also predicted Australia would dominate the women's breakdancing competition at the event. And that's true. These are easy mistakes to fix. I understand. It's just looking at the odds going in, you know. I mean, she was a professor of breakdancing. Yeah.

It turns out this is that the other story coming out of the big night, the first night is how long it went. It went so long is it turns out I had this strangely relevant conversation earlier in the day. There's a guy named Jeff Nussbaum. Jeff is a long term political speechwriter who had worked for Democratic politicians for every convention from 2000 through the last one, which, of course, was a virtual convention. And he was a political speechwriter.

I asked him about preparing the speakers and I found out, and this isn't a surprise when you think about it, the VIPs, the big names like Hillary Clinton or President Biden on the first night, they get to do whatever they want. It's the mid-level politicians. And the biggest problem with them is keeping them to time.

And he told me about like how much of a struggle that is. That's where you run into folks who will say, this isn't me or I'm not doing this or I can't do this. And then you find yourself in a position where you beg and then you plead and then you escalate and then you bribe and then you threaten. And the bribe is...

You can have one more minute. And the threat is, okay, do what you want. You're going to do it at 5 p.m. instead of 10 p.m. I would never have imagined that there was negotiation down to the last minute like that. And apparently, some people resist. He told me this story about how I think it was in 2006 when he was working at that convention. Al Sharpton went through the whole process. And then he'd get up.

He gets up on live TV at the convention and he pulls out a completely different speech from his pocket. Just like totally cool. Like, now I'm here, you can't stop me. And I noticed...

Last night, Sean Fain was reading from a piece of paper. Did he do the same thing? Yeah. I thought he was – I read that as just like man of the people. I'm not using a teleprompter. I'm using my note cards. Yeah. But we can see the teleprompter too. He said everything on the teleprompter. I was really – and Emma, you were probably annoyed by me because when we were watching Hillary Clinton's speech, where we were sitting, like you said, we could see the teleprompter. Yeah.

And you could see the little edits Hillary Clinton was making in the speech. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were tiny things. Like...

So there had been this thing a few minutes before where we heard about Kamala Harris's mother and someone had said, you know, I wish she was here to see what's happening. And in Hillary Clinton's speech, which was, you know, we could see on the teleprompter, there was a line that she had written earlier or her speechwriter had written earlier about wishing her mother could see her now.

You could see that line, and she changed it to, I wish my mother could see me now, and I wish Kamala Harris's mother could see me now. I'm paraphrasing. But, like, she just... She's sort of like, okay, I have a little callback that just happened five minutes ago, and...

Me, as somebody who writes things that you, Peter, read sometimes. Most of the time. I really loved seeing those little edits, and I was elbowing Emma every time. Did you see? She says they instead of them, and I was so excited about it. That's the thing I learned the most last evening, too, is the difference between a politician and a really great speaker. Because there are some people like AOC, Hillary, like electrified the cloud and like,

I was like, it was like, how many people were in that room? Like tens of thousands of people. Yeah. It was incredible. And then my favorite woman of the night was a book report lady with the huge, first of all, to bind a copy of anything is to glorify it a little bit. She didn't have to bind it that nicely. This was a giant bound copy of Project 2025. It's a sign of, it's the kind of book that Gandalf would open and blow dust off to find the lore of the ring. Absolutely.

My other favorite part of the night was, I think, more fun than the candidates and the people on stage were the people at the convention that were so freaking...

and awesome and specific. Like, we met so many cool people. Ian, I mean, for example, we were just walking through the hallway finding our way in, and Ian, you found this guy who was quite dressed up. Hey, what's your name? Hey, my name's Angelo. And where are you from, Angelo? I'm one of the delegates from Northern Mariana Islands. Okay, and can you tell me about this outfit? I'm dressed like Where's Waldo because...

why every conference should have a Waldo in the audience? Am I right? Basically, we're at DemCon, right? I mean, it's like I go to conference, like I'm sitting in big conference rooms. It's like celebrities are walking around. I'm, you know, taking selfies with people. It's like a comic book conference, but for politics. He was from the Northern Mariana Islands. Yes. And the newest U.S. territory. But like he flew such a long time to be here. That's a

And he had more costumes planned for the rest of the week. Yeah. Yeah. He said this was like the least exciting of his outfit. You should try to find him every night. I'm aware of the Northern Mariana Islands on the floor. He said he had a coconut tree costume for tonight. Yeah. Really? Yeah, that's what he said. Oh, I missed that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was so excited. This is such a good idea because you're, you know, if you're there and you're a delegate...

your friends are at home watching on C-SPAN or whatever to try and see you. And you're like, you know what? I'm going to dress as Waldo. Yeah. I was on a group chat with my family. Yeah. And I was like, I just talked to this guy who's dressed as Waldo. And my wife, Emily, five minutes later, screams to the group text. I saw him. He answered the question of where he was. I think that's so exciting. Yeah.

People's fashion choices. It's so interesting when there's different people. People chose business, like people in wearing suits. People chose comfort, like we were wearing sneakers. And then there are people there to be looked at, wearing like heels, wearing like tight stuff. How was that? That was an amazing person we saw just when we were walking in who had that perfect Kellyanne Conway costume. Yeah. We did see our first celebrity sighting was Kellyanne Conway. Oh, that was her. Oh, that.

Okay, that explains how good the costume was. It was quite good. And she was being escorted. I don't know. She was walking out with a coterie of people. And it occurred to me later, was she being escorted out? No. I don't know. I think it was her producers. I think she was there for something. Yeah, she was chatting amiably with the person next door. So she wasn't complaining. And it is true that all the, I thought this was kind of cool, that the big networks all have what I guess are normally luxury boxes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where, you know, people pay big money to sit and watch concerts or sporting events. And they all have their, you know, their logos out.

And so, like, Fox News is twice as big as everybody else. NPR has a standing desk in the corner. Yes, NPR has what they call an Apple box. It's just a small wooden box that you can sit on. They were swapping back and forth. No, NPR is up in the radio area. Apparently, another thing the press is complaining about, in addition to the lines, are the poor facilities. And they're saying the RNC did this better. Let me say, because we should wrap up and get back in there. Right. The facilities, I think Emma found...

the best part of the Democratic National Convention. You want to talk about the pub that you found? Oh my God! It's in the United Center where the Bulls play basketball. And so there are all these little areas and concession stands. Excuse me, hi. Is this a bar only for mayors? Yes. It's called the Mayor's Pub.

I love mayors. It's only for mayors. There's a thing called the Democratic Mayors Association. There is a bouncer. There's a bouncer. There's two bouncers. Which I have to see if you're a mayor? If you were a mayor, yeah. Do you have to have like a sash and top hat like on a Paw Patrol? We couldn't get in, none of us being mayors. Yeah. This is the most exclusive club in America. Like it's not just who you know in there. You have to be elected by general election to get into this pub.

I love the idea that tonight, after his speech, former President Barack Obama...

We'll need a beer. We'll head up to the mayor's pub and say, sorry, sir. Sorry, sir. Have you ever been or will be a mayor? I was a community organizer. I'm sorry. This is the mayor's pub. I was president. Sorry, you overshot it. You have to just get it exactly right. The mayor's pub. It's pretty cool. I don't want to get in so bad. Well, presumably the mayors can bring a plus one, right? It's for mayors and their guests. So my one goal for this convention is find a mayor, become their friend, and get into the mayor's pub. They'll be there all week. Let's go.

Let's make that our goal. So we're going to head back into the convention. We have a couple more days of this. Another question I want to answer. How do you prove you're a mayor? You get a special ID. That's like a golden ID. Yeah, a badge. Do mayors get a badge? You have like the key to the city that you hold on to before you present it to people. That's collateral. Yeah. All right. Well, these are questions we're going to answer.

We're so excited to spend a little more time at the DNC meeting these dignitaries and weirdos that make our country great. I'm going to call that a sign-off. I would just go far as to say they make our country. Okay. Okay. Thank you all. Thanks for sitting through this. Peter, Emma, Godspeed. USA! USA! USA!

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