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The Apache

2025/2/24
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Luke LaManna: 我是一名美国陆军士兵,在福特坎贝尔服役期间,我和我的战友偶然发现了一起神秘的直升机坠毁事件。这架直升机似乎属于美国军队,但飞行员却穿着洪都拉斯军队的制服。在试图报告这一事件时,我们的无线电通讯受到了干扰。随后,一群穿着黑色制服、没有标识的士兵到达现场,并命令我们离开。上校甚至威胁说,如果我们不离开,就要杀死我们。我们最终离开了现场,再也没有听到关于这起坠机事件的消息。事后,我一直在思考这起事件的真相,以及政府可能隐瞒了什么秘密。 我怀疑这架直升机可能与美国政府秘密训练外国飞行员的计划有关,这与当时在中美洲的政治局势有关。美国政府为了阻止共产主义的蔓延,秘密支持尼加拉瓜的反政府武装,这其中可能涉及到许多不为人知的秘密行动。这起坠机事件,以及政府的反应,让我相信美国政府为了维护国家安全,可以不惜一切代价掩盖真相。 Corporal Lack: 我和Luke LaManna一起在福特坎贝尔服役,我们一起经历了那次神秘的直升机坠毁事件。我记得当时我们发现那架直升机时,感到非常震惊。飞行员穿着洪都拉斯的军服,这让我们感到非常困惑。当我们试图向指挥部报告时,无线电通讯受到了干扰,这更加深了我们的怀疑。 后来,一群穿着黑色制服的士兵到达现场,并命令我们离开。他们的行为非常奇怪,他们似乎并不想让我们调查这起坠机事件。上校的威胁让我感到害怕,我当时非常紧张。虽然我坚持按照规定行事,但最终还是选择了听从上校的命令离开。这件事让我感到非常不安,我至今仍然无法理解当时发生的一切。 Colonel: 作为一名高级军官,我必须维护国家安全和军事机密。那次直升机坠毁事件涉及到高度敏感的信息,因此我们必须阻止无关人员接近现场。LaManna和Lack的行为违反了规定,他们试图向指挥部报告未经授权的信息。为了保护国家安全,我不得不采取强硬措施,命令他们离开现场。 我不后悔我的决定,因为维护国家安全是我的职责。我理解他们的困惑和不安,但有些事情是他们无法理解的。有些秘密必须被保守,即使这意味着要采取一些非常规的措施。 Sergeant: 我奉命执行上校的命令,维护现场秩序,保护国家安全。LaManna和Lack的行为引起了我的注意,他们试图接近坠毁现场,并试图向指挥部报告情况。这可能会泄露重要的军事机密,因此我必须阻止他们。 我理解他们的困惑,但我的职责是服从命令,维护国家安全。我必须确保现场的安全,防止任何信息泄露。我当时的行为是根据我的职责和上校的命令做出的,我对此没有后悔。

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The podcast opens by discussing the US government's tendency to keep secrets, using the example of Oak Ridge, Tennessee, a city built in secrecy during WWII to develop the atomic bomb. The secrecy surrounding Oak Ridge highlights the lengths the government will go to protect sensitive information and the potential consequences of such secrets being revealed.
  • US government secrecy
  • Oak Ridge, Tennessee
  • Manhattan Project
  • Atomic bomb development

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Regardless of how anyone feels about it, the United States government is rather big on keeping secrets. Sometimes these secrets are intended to protect the American public and its interests. In any case, there are certainly many things that the government is involved with that are never intended to be made known to the general public. As a soldier in the U.S. Army, I would come to discover that being in the military puts a man that much closer to stumbling across something that

He was never supposed to. This is part two of the story of the night shift at Fort Campbell. I'm Luke LaManna, and this is Wartime Stories. My days and nights while stationed at Fort Campbell were a great time for me. To say the very least, those 23 months were the most interesting part of my life. I say interesting because although my primary occupation was in communications, I was temporarily transferred to the military police division to work as a security guard.

Since fixing broken antennas, radios and other comm gear was far from exciting, I very much enjoyed doing those daytime and nighttime security patrols along the mostly quiet back roads and secluded areas in and around the large base. However, I did have more than a couple, what I would call, strange encounters during the conduct of these patrols. One of these encounters wasn't anything you might consider highly unusual, or maybe it was.

I mean no disrespect by saying that I am well aware that our government has plenty of secrets. The world is full of unseen dangers and there are of course some things that are best kept under wraps in the interest of protecting not only Americans but those countries with which we are allies. I'll give you an example. One of the biggest secrets maintained by the United States government was to conceal an entire American city from the outside world, even from fellow Americans.

The city is called Oak Ridge, Tennessee, and it's actually just a few hours drive east of Fort Campbell. For those who don't know its extraordinary history, the U.S. government built the entire city of Oak Ridge in just a matter of months back in the 1940s. It was intentionally hidden, tucked away inside 60,000 acres of land purchased in the undeveloped and isolated backwoods of Tennessee.

The entire city, everything right down to the city streets, stoplights, and sewers, was planned and constructed by the U.S. government to house one specific group of people. These were the tens of thousands of civilian personnel, along with their families, who were secretly relocated into Oak Ridge to accomplish one goal: to acquire and prepare the materials needed to manufacture the newly developed atomic bomb. The year was 1942. The A-bomb was a new wonder weapon of mass destruction.

and it was going to end the war, if not tragically. During World War II, the city of Oak Ridge was a vital part of the then top secret Manhattan Project. As such, its very existence was kept hidden from the outside world. It wasn't even listed on maps for several years, not until after the war was over. Now, imagine how hard it is to keep an entire city a secret like that. What would happen hypothetically if some random hiker got lost and stumbled into the town? I have no idea.

But if a private citizen learns about a government secret like that, it's probably a big surprise for him. The person might have a hard time keeping quiet about it. And if a secret that big gets out, the rest of the world would soon know everything about it. You can only imagine the potential consequences of Oak Ridge being discovered, the damage to the Manhattan Project, and the impact it would have had on the world. So you can probably also imagine the lengths to which the U.S. government went to keep it from being discovered. Let's just say I personally wouldn't want to be that random hiker.

But unlike a civilian, if a person in the military, like myself, happens to stumble across something top secret, they at least understand it could be damaging to national security, and certainly to their own career, to talk about it. So they are more inclined not to do so. Again, I tell you this because when I was in the Army, stationed on Fort Campbell, there was a time when I thought me and my buddy, whom I'll just identify as Corporal Lack, might have stumbled across something like that. Something that we...

weren't supposed to have seen. Now, something you should know about Lack. Overall, he was a good soldier. Professional, easy going, and he had a good sense of humor when it was appropriate. You pretty much couldn't help but like him. But Lack also had a habit of being a little too serious at times. One night in February of 1988, it put both of us in a very bad position. Nearly got both of us killed, in fact. - Bravo 47, this is Command. Command over. - This is Bravo 47. Send it.

What's your current location? One cold night in February, while we were conducting our routine patrol around Fort Campbell, Lack and I received an unexpected radio call. Our dispatch informed us that they'd been contacted by the nearby dispatch center, the Clarksville Police Department, because they'd received a 911 call about a possible crash of a small civilian plane, someone having spotted it flying low over the base's southern fence line. Since the caller said they thought that the plane had crashed on the base, the local civilian police couldn't conduct the initial investigation.

so they called the base police. Lack and I were patrolling in that general vicinity of the base, so we were assigned to search the area where the caller believed the plane may have gone down. We were somewhat skeptical. Planes don't exactly crash every day. So as we drove around the area, we didn't really expect to find anything. This area of the base was less heavily forested, having some open patches of land scattered alongside the roads. After a bit of slow driving in the dark, shining the truck's spotlights along the tree lines as we went,

we suddenly saw what indeed appeared to be a crash site in one of these open fields getting out of the truck with our flashlights we walked quickly although very carefully towards the wreckage shining our lights around try not to step on any of the countless pieces of wreckage and debris in hindsight i maybe should have radioed our dispatch right away before leaving the truck to confirm that we had found a downed aircraft but in the heavy darkness i suppose we were curious and

wanted to confirm what it was before reporting it, as well as to check for survivors in need of help. The pile of wreckage was billowing some steam, which was quite visible in the beams of our flashlights. The main fuselage lay among scattered debris, sitting in the middle of the field, about 75 yards from the road, about the same distance from the tree line behind it. As we got closer to the main body of the aircraft, we were shocked to realize that these were not the remains of a civilian plane.

It was one of our own Apache attack helicopters, or rather, it was what was left of one. Unable to detect the smell of spilled fuel, nor seeing any indication it might catch fire, we kept approaching it, hoping again to first check for any survivors, although the general appearance of the crash site didn't seem hopeful. The ground showed a significant crater at its initial point of impact.

Pieces of the helicopter were clearly buried in it, with a length of other impact points and bits of debris strewn along the ground in front of it. A number of detached rockets also laying scattered around the clearing. These additional craters indicated that it had likely bounced after its first impact, then flipping or rolling a number of times before coming to a stop. Now the broken and twisted heap of metal that lay before us. Scanning the tree line behind it with our flashlights, there was a section of trees whose tops were noticeably damaged.

Considering the 911 call about a low-flying aircraft, we figured that the helicopter must have clipped the treetops at a fast speed, which caused it to crash as hard and as abruptly as it did. The pilot probably had little or no time to react. The damage to the Apache, including its cockpit, was extensive. Seeing this, we knew then that there was little chance of either of the two pilots having survived. I told Lack to check the cockpit anyway before I jogged back to our truck, carefully avoiding the debris so I could radio back a report on the crash.

And that was when this strange situation got even stranger. This is Bravo 47 calling Command. Command over. Command to Bravo 47, go ahead. We are currently at... Command, this is Bravo 47, do you read me? Well, that's weird. Command, this is Bravo 47. Command over. Right after my dispatch acknowledged my call in, my transmission was suddenly drowned out by some kind of radio interference.

A distinct electronic hum was the only thing I could hear. I clicked through the radio, and tried a few other channels, but the same interference seemed to be preventing me from transmitting on those as well. Being my primary MOS was communications, I suspected, shall I say strongly suspected, that this wasn't just some kind of random interference with our radio. I had certainly never heard it before. I knew enough about radio signals to know when something strange was happening. Here I'll give you an example.

If you're ever driving down the road and listening to your car's radio, specifically AM radio, and you pass by some overhead power lines, you'll notice the radio signal will often either get fuzzy or be completely drowned out by static. That interference is caused by the electromagnetic energy coming off the high voltage power lines. However, out here in this empty field on Fort Campbell, there were no power lines or any other reasons for this kind of sudden, very powerful radio interference.

I had no idea why, but it seemed very possible that the designated radio frequencies we were using were intentionally being jammed, on all available channels no less. Unable to send up a report, I impatiently tossed the radio handset onto the front seat. I then reached into the cargo area of the truck, grabbing a fire extinguisher, before jogging back over to the wreckage. Black was now standing right beside the airframe, staring at the pilot, who was still strapped to the rear seat, plainly visible through what little remained of the chopper's canopy.

Starting to open my mouth, wanting to tell Lack about the issue with the radio, I suddenly stopped, my attention being drawn back to the pilot. He wasn't wearing the right uniform. In my experience, American pilots would normally have worn an olive green one-piece zippered flight suit. This man was wearing something that looked much more like the older Vietnam era fatigues. OD green, with large buttons down the front of the blouse. The jacket. Shining my flashlight from various angles, looking for any other identifying markings,

I then saw the patch of a foreign flag sewn onto his upper sleeve. My suspicions were confirmed. Having deployed to Central America myself, if only for a few weeks, I thought I had recognized the uniform he was wearing. A Honduran Army uniform. Very much out of place on someone piloting an American helicopter, I thought. He was wearing the right headgear though, a pilot's helmet, which was equipped with its rather obvious integrated night vision hardware and target acquisition display. He was also very clearly dead.

No surprise to us though. We figured there was little chance of either the pilot or the gunner having survived a crash this bad. The nose of the helicopter hadn't been practically obliterated on impact. The front part of the aircraft where the gunner would have been seated was just gone. If there had been two men in that helicopter, you wouldn't know it by looking at it. Looking back at Lack, who looked as confused as I was, I suddenly remembered the issue with the radio and told him about it.

Not sure what else to do, we continued carefully walking around the wreckage, looking for anything else unusual, while discussing what our best course of action was, what with not being able to communicate anything back to our command. Having a fire extinguisher on hand, we figured at least one of us should stay close to the wreckage, in case it caught fire. Being able to stop a fire as soon as it started might help preserve something important, for whoever would end up investigating the crash. Suddenly, we heard the sound of vehicles approaching, soon followed by headlights on the nearby road.

Now, things got even stranger. Two Humvees in an M35 troop transport truck sped up to the clearing, stopping abruptly. A dozen or so soldiers wearing black uniforms, very unusual, quickly filed out of the back of the deuce. They swiftly approached the wreckage, scanning the area, the two of us included. Their M16s out and ready. Very odd behavior for investigating a crash site like this, I thought. Especially as they kept pointing loaded rifles at what were clearly two fellow soldiers.

None of them wore any divisional insignia nor had any name tags on their uniforms. They wore only a subdued patch of the American flag on their sleeve. One of them did have sergeant's bars on his collar and another had a corporal's, but the others had no rank identifiers whatsoever. A colonel, a lieutenant colonel, and two majors then got out of the Humvees, identifiable by the rank they wore on their collars, but none of them had any divisional insignia or name tags either. As they approached us, still standing next to the wreckage,

Four soldiers from the larger group walked over and joined them. The colonel suddenly pointed at us and shouted, "You will leave now." Remember when I said Lack had a bad habit of taking his job too seriously? This is one of those times. He got, if you will, all formal and by the book. He firmly told the colonel that we were not leaving the area until we were properly relieved, according to the rules and regulations and all that. Well, the colonel was clearly not happy with his response.

By the look on his face, his two-second fuse was already halfway burnt. Personally, I felt that the regulations on this were pretty clear and obvious. The colonel was very much our superior officer, and he'd given us direct orders to leave. I was fine with obeying those orders and leaving right then and there. But for the life of me, I don't know what life was thinking. And I certainly did not expect what happened next. The colonel turned to one of the blacked-out soldiers, the one wearing sergeant's bars, and very clearly said...

"Sergeant, if they are not gone in 30 seconds, kill 'em." He then turned back to face Lack as he continued his instructions to the sergeant. "And dispose of their bodies along with that." He was pointing at the wrecked Apache. Sergeant No-Name then stepped forward and brought his M16 up to shoulder, pointing it directly at Lack's chest. "Now, I'm not a very good poker player."

But I sure as hell know when I need to fold my hand and walk away from the table. I quickly turned and walked back towards our truck. I didn't say a word. I got into the driver's seat, started the engine, held my foot down on the brake, and put it in gear. I kept staring straight ahead at the road, praying that Lack would wise up and get in the damn truck. Thankfully, he was climbing into the passenger seat about three seconds later. Heaven evidently changed his mindset.

Keeping my eyes straight ahead, I immediately drove us the hell out of there. Bravo 47, this is Command. Come in, over. After a time, having forgotten all about the radio, it suddenly barked back to life, startling me. I hadn't even realized that the electronic hum had stopped. Dispatch was calling us, asking if we were okay. As calmly as I could, I replied that we were fine. They asked what I had attempted to say in my initial radio transmission, before the strange interference had started up.

With some hesitation, I replied that we hadn't found anything yet and that we planned on continuing our search of the area. Several hours later, when we got back to the station at the end of our shift, our shift commander pulled us into his office in what I thought was something of a tentative manner. He asked us if we had ended up finding anything during our search of the woods. As I have previously indicated, this wasn't my first rodeo. I've been down this road before.

I knew full well that silence is golden. Clearing my throat, looking first at Lack, then back at the shift commander, I quietly said that, no sir, we hadn't seen anything out there. Nothing unusual to report. Lack seemed like he was about to say something, but then he simply nodded and said the same thing. Nothing unusual. We all just stood silently in his office for a moment. Commander seemed rather pleased by our replies. I could swear by the look of relief on his face that

He knew more than what he was either willing or able to tell us. He then dismissed us and I was very relieved to be dismissed. I left the station and Black did too. I don't even think I stopped anywhere to get anything to eat on my way home. I simply drove back to my tiny base apartment and sat in the dark in my tiny living room. The night's events raced through my mind. I wondered why things like this had to happen to me. I couldn't come up with an answer so finally I went to bed.

We never heard anything about any civilian plane crash. I never asked anyone about it either. For a good number of years afterward, I would find myself lost in thought, wondering if that colonel was bluffing, or if he really would have had Lack and me killed if we had chosen not to leave the crash site. Some years beyond that, after I got married and started a family, now having my own children, I began to question what became of the bodies of the two men who died in that helicopter crash. Where were their final resting places? What were their families told?

Or did their remains in that Apache helicopter simply vanish into the void of yet another classified government secret? As for why a Honduran soldier was sitting in the pilot's seat, I may be able to offer you some amount of explanation. I would come to learn that at that time, the Apache was being used to secretly train foreign pilots to fly US military helicopters, and for a specific reason. On March 17th, 1988, only a month after the night we discovered that crashed Apache,

Thousands of US military personnel, some from the 82nd Airborne Division, deployed into Honduras in support of Operation Golden Pheasant. As I have alluded to already, I was also deployed to Honduras. That was in December of 1986, more than a year before this official operation began. My group was assisting with the construction of an airfield, likely to prepare for the upcoming airborne operations.

Like the recent war in Vietnam, during my time in the 80s, the US international policy preventing the spread of communism was still in effect in Central America. As with local anti-communist groups who had fought in Vietnam, following an overthrow of the Nicaraguan government in 1979, the US was now backing the anti-communists in Nicaragua. In this case, it was the Contras and their fight against the newly established Marxist and reportedly Soviet-funded government, the Sandinistas.

Operation Golden Pheasant was billed as an emergency deployment readiness exercise, a simple joint training exercise between the U.S. and Honduran militaries. But our soldiers were evidently deployed ready to fight, not only to conduct training. The rumor was that the Sandinistas had been illegally operating in Honduras, and that the American troops were sent to push them back out. However, Pentagon officials assured the public that our troops would be staying...

well away from the border where the US-backed Contra rebels had reportedly been fighting with the Sandinistas. Whatever the true events were, following this rapid deployment of US troops into Honduras in March, the Sandinistas quickly withdrew and the US troops were pulled back out by the end of the month. Ultimately though, the US government's support and funding of the Contras was frowned on by many Americans. When it was discovered that the US government had been covertly selling arms through Iran to bypass congressional approval,

It sparked a rather nasty political controversy back in the late 80s, such as the result of the uncovering of government and military secrets.

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