#2758 SOUTHERN HOSPITALITY S03E11: The Long Arm of the Law Prom
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Hello and welcome to Watch Watch Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the lovely and perfect Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Well, hello, you sweet guy. How are you doing?

Doing just great. We're here today to talk about the grand finale of Southern Hospitality. Before we do that, just a reminder to go get tickets for our live shows at WatchWhatCrapHands.com this weekend. We're going to Cincinnati, Minneapolis, and Toronto. And we are going to recap in that order, Summer House,

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Why should you have to pay that? It's ridiculous. So that is all the news. Ronnie, what did you think about this season finale? The season finale. What a bunch of messy, messy, messy people. I loved it. I thought it was great. And I also love a good 10 episode season. I don't think they had more to sustain them for more than 10 episodes. And I'm glad it was a nice. I love a 10 episode season.

Yeah, it was it was a tight, strong season. Every episode was great. Every episode was hilarious. They really are. This is a great show. It's a great show. And they are really bringing it and they did great work with it. And it also had some really beautiful moments, too, which was amazing. So let's dive into it. Guilty until proven innocent is the name of the episode.

And it's prom. It's law prom. They're doing a law prom, but they're making it a prom prom. So the lead up to the, well, basically, they're kind of, I think the vibe that they're going for is Carrie or something. Because we keep seeing things that are like, one week before prom. But it's like not fun and happy. It's like scary looking. I'm like, are the producers trying to make this seem like,

There's going to be a bloodbath. I couldn't quite tell. But Emmy's playing the role of both Carrie and Carrie's mother at the same time. She's just like, okay, I'm going to need people for flowers. I'm going to need people for cake. I'm going to need people for decorations. I got my list done. It's going to be the best law prom ever. Nothing can go wrong. And dad's like,

Three days before prom. And so we're at a menswear store, and Joe and TJ are trying on suits. It's like, oh, this looks good. He's like, I think that Mia is wearing a leopard dress. He's like, oh, really? Do you have any leopard toxins? That's, like, so funny, Joe. Are you in love with me? So then we see Lake and Molly. He asked for a leopard suit. He's, like, really gay. Like, don't even bother giving him a blowjob. It's reserved for the boys. Then Lake and Molly are trying on dresses at another store, and they...

whoosh open the curtains at the same time and they're in the same dress. And like, it's like, you copied me. Who wore it best? Am I right? So they keep trying on dresses. It's like wacky. They're trying on like wacky prom dresses and stuff. Whoosh.

Scary music. And then two days before prom and Michael's house and Preston is over with Michaels and Michaels is like, oh, wait, I have a surprise for you. Look, there's three cakes. It says prom. Yes. No. Are you going to go to prom with me?

He that's, that's a lot of cake to ask a simple question. Those two don't eat cake. I'm not buying it. Well, you got to prom with me. I had a moment, but this, okay. You're gonna have to just like,

Trust me on this. I was looking at Michael's and I was like, who does his face remind me of? His face reminds me of someone. And then I realized when Michael's is being very serious, which is often, he's very serious. I was like, who, what, what face does he have when he's being serious? I was like, oh my God, it's Dorothy's born heck. He has, he has resting B Arthur face. And I think like, that's the greatest honor you could possibly ever bestow a gay man. I think like when B Arthur gets,

you know, she, someone says something stupid and then she just stares right into the camera. Yeah.

Yeah, that's exactly it. You'll see it. Next time you watch it, you'll see it. So he's like, I was straight in high school and I took a girl I was dating to prom. And then she spent the night at my house and my mom found out. And then I came back to my bedroom and there was a box of condoms on there. Like, thanks. I love people like his mom, you know, who are like, oh, my God, being gay is a sin. But fucking a girl before marriage, here's some condoms. Do it in our house. That's great. Love that.

Michael's mom. Like, what do you want at this point? Hey, Michael's mom. If anybody knows Michael's mom, carry a message to this woman for me. Fuck off, lady. All right? Get it together. Okay, lady? Hypocritical asshole. Get it together.

Preston's trying to guess, 'cause he's blindfolded, he's trying to guess what's actually in front of him. And he's like, "Well, it sounds like you opened up your fridge and pulled out a Diet Pepsi." And he's like, "No, it's not a Diet Pepsi." He's like, "Okay, it's broccoli. Okay, you pulled out broccoli. I know it's broccoli." "No, it's not broccoli either."

okay is it just is it a tire did you bring an attire from outside oh my god preston you're so bad at this um uh no it was three cakes and preston's like um i wish you had spelled this out of broccoli because that would have been like our dessert like why would you do this and so then he like michael smushes the cake into preston's face and it's really cute and happy and it's romantic and that's like one day before prom yeah

And now the music becomes upbeat. And Maddie's sitting on her balcony and Joe Bradley shows up in a vintage Corvette. And he's, you know, got the boombox and he lifts up the boombox and starts playing the music.

And then he switches into like "Love Actually," which was actually kind of creepy, which is fitting, I guess, for this. This scene was kind of creepy, where the best friend shows up and just writes stuff on cards and shows the girl. - Yeah. But he had like a lot. Well, first of all, he wrote his on paper instead of like posters. So everything was flopping around. And he had like so many pieces of paper. He's like, "Hey, I was wondering," just drop the paper.

If maybe you'd be in your sitting, drop the paper. Like maybe there's going to be this prom, drop the paper. So like, here's the thing. I really like want to go to prom, drop the paper with you. It's like, Joe, hurry up. Go to the last piece of paper. This is taking too long. Money can't buy you class. I don't regret fucking you in the hotel. I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. That was a different one. It was a different one. It was a different one. But yeah, he really makes it long. He makes a whole monologue on like 20 pages of paper. He's like, I'm pretty much like littering your neighborhood right now.

Joe, why did you write down Nana's chicken parm recipe? Oh, I just thought maybe you get hungry in the middle of this.

So it's basically, "Will you go to prom with me?" And she's like, "Oh my God, that's amazing. It's like the most romantic thing that anybody has ever done for me. That's crazy." And he's like, "Yeah, I've been in love with Maddie for like years and that feels like a really long time to me. But you know, I wanted to move in with her, but she's not ready. So, you know, like I need to always listen to my mom and stop putting Maddie away."

Flashback to the day before her mom was like, his mom was like, yeah, honey, you have to stop being so aggressive with Maddie. Okay, just give her some space. And for the last time, when I give you Nanny's chicken parm recipe, write it down. I'm sick of having to answer this phone call every week. So then back to outside, she's like, oh my God, are you still doing signs, Joe? It's like, I am.

- It really is. - Is that just a drawing of the eggplant emoji? - I ran out of things, but I wanted to keep it romantic, so. - So he's like, "By the way, I've got one more. It says we can call it a prom com LOL." Yes, yes, a prom com. I'll go to prom with you, Joe. Absolutely. By the way, so it's like, I don't know if, I just want to clarify, you get that like prom, prom com is like a play on rom-com, right? Yes, Joe, come on.

- 'Cause I was really trying to do like multiple rom-coms right now, not just one, but like there were like multiple ones. And she's like, "I got it, Joe, I got it." So I write them down for you, I still have some paper left. "No, Joe, let's just take a ride in the car." - This is the most romantic thing that anyone has ever done for me. It's like such a relief that he understands how important it is to take my time in this relationship that I don't wanna be in. And I do want the same thing as he wants, except I want them with a different person at a different time in my life, and that's all.

Yeah. So now they speed off and they're like so happy. So then we go to my favorite place, the Republic back room and everyone's getting ready for their shift. And guess who I don't see? Cloris Leachman. Hello. It's a season finale. Where's Siobhan? Where's Cloris Leachman? I know. We did see Cloris Leachman at the very, very end. Did you catch her? She was wearing a bright green dress. So like she stood out in the group and she was like clapping and was like really happy at the, during the prom king and prom queen moment. She was like,

Oh yeah, that's good. I remember. I remember when Frankie Avalon was prom king. That was the time. That was a good time. We banged in his car back outside. It's like, I haven't been this set since 2D's Tat Natalie had a roller skate. So, um... It's like, girl, this is a candy shop.

So Joe's like, "Hey, my baby, are you gonna cover my pimples off?" She's like, "Yeah, come here, Joe, Joe." So they go and he covers, she does his makeup and Michael's like, "Hey, did you guys take the sheet to make compies?" "Wait, what are you guys doing?"

"What's going on? Like what's happening back here?" And he's like, "Nothing. We're just like pre-booking. That's it." "Yeah." He's like, "Whatever, guys." - So people are working on the VIP sign and Matty's excited for prom. And then he's like, "I want it to be pretty. I want it to be colorful. I want it to be a prom, you know, but like a lot prom, except I'll be there. It's going to be so romantic. Everything's going to go great. Am I right?"

And she's like, this summer has been awful. Like I finally got rid of this fake cheating rumor and like proving Will innocent. And like, I expect everyone to got all of their bad behavior out. Like, it's just going to be totally fine. Only with sushi. It's going to be the perfect sushi night. Did she wait when she says I finally have gotten rid of this fake cheating rumor? Did she? When did you absolutely did not? You did not get rid of a rumor. You just cried about it.

I think maybe she thought like the explanation that Will was being bullied at law school is like the thing that like like deaded the rumor. But I don't think anyone believed that. Yeah. So you prove nothing, ma'am.

So now like, it's like, okay, yeah. You like it's Republic. People are in Republic. Fun time, fun times. And TJ is like, Hey Brad, something just clicked in my head. Emmy is planning this prom because she didn't get to go with Will. Cause she was skiing. Right. Is that the same weekend that the cheating supposedly happened? And Brad's like,

I don't know, like that was the night that whatever went down with Will's cheating supposedly went down. I'm concerned. - I'm very, very concerned. Oh, I'm sure Brad's very concerned.

So Brad's like, yeah, when we were in Vegas, Will told us he was apparently getting bullied by Austin's girlfriend's brother. But we come to find out he's lying. And if you didn't do anything wrong, then why are you lying? You know, because Emmy's like a little sister to me, guys. So, you know, Emmy has every right to know. Every right to know. So Brad's like, yeah, you know, I have friends at Will's Law School, so I'm going to keep doing some digging. And TJ's like, um, if you need help...

How do they, what law school is this again? How does everyone know so many people in this law school? It's like this nebulous place, this distant law school that I'm not even sure is even in South Carolina, but they all seem to know people there. And there's people from this law school here in Charleston. It's like this weird concept that's lingering around this show. So TJ's like, if this rumor is nothing, then it's nothing. But I will find out the truth. Like, okay, TJ. Yeah, I will find out.

So now 20 South Battery, the prom venue. Five hours until prom. So Will and Emmy are there and they're starting to get ready and stuff. And Will's like, yeah, I was never really a big prom guy. But, you know, I just want Emmy to be happy and smile a lot.

what does Will like? He doesn't like hot dogs. He doesn't like proms. Does he have joy in his life anymore? He hates every single thing. Everything is a complaint from him. It's hard to believe this is the same guy who we saw the past two seasons, who was like partying and like the bartender and like always up for good times. And now he's like, I hate proms. I hate hot dogs. I hate standing up. You know? Yeah. That's our boy. He's a miserable, miserable man. Yeah. He has no joy. So Will's like, I'm going to change out of my work tie and into a dress tie.

I've been working. It's really hard. Like I haven't even eaten today. It's like so hard. I have a job. Lawyering. My work tie has a little highlighter attached to it. But my dance tie, no highlighter.

So then Molly is fixing Blake's eyeshadow and stuff. And they're like, oh my God, Slay, we're going to prom. So Molly's like, yeah, out of eight proms I've been to, my favorite memory was my junior year. My date bought me Nike shoes when he asked me and said, just do it. Go to prom with me. Again, I think there's value in just going up to someone and saying, do you want to go to prom? So then...

Now Lake is saying, I just like to shake ass and eat good food. And Ma is like, that was poetry. So now we go to Maddie's house and Maddie, Joe, and...

it's Maddie, Joe and Maddie's housemates, Fran and Eva, which I forgot about Fran. I think we met Fran last season. I just love that there's someone named Fran on this show. So, um, Eva, in case you guys don't remember, Eva, um, was dating O'Sheen, um, until that whole Grace Lilly situation happened. Well, they had a situationship, which means they weren't dating. They were boning.

and then Grace Lilly boned him at the same time. - I still am shocked that an OnlyFans model cheated on the person he was in a situation ship with. It's just wild. - The milkman cheated? And how does he have so many people willing to have sex with him when he's always covered in milk smell?

You know? I know. Seriously. So Maddie's like, well, Joe joked this morning that Grace Lilly was going to be getting ready with us here. Isn't that hilarious? But, you know, I'd like to see you and Grace have a conversation, Eva. And she's like, well, she wants to talk about it to everybody but me. So. Yeah, but she says she's going to. She's like, well, she lies, though. She's a liar, though.

"Huh, I wish I had friends who every time I fucked up were like, 'No, it's okay.'" And Eva's like, "Yeah, same." I mean, you do. Guys! You all do. You're on this show and you're still friends. So then TJ, Brad, and Mia are getting ready together and Brad's like, "Wow, turns out one of our VIP server knows what's going on. Just a few hours ago, just coincidentally,

One of our servers, Ella, who is mic'd up and ready for camera time, told me there's this girl on the law school campus that Will is seen with all the time, and everyone there believes it's Will's girlfriend. Notice how Brad has all these girls just willing to come on camera when he needs some advice. Fucking shady, Brad.

So TJ is like, when we were in New York, I disregarded it at the time because there was like just so much going on with that skank, Louie Andela Sapp sleeping with my best friend. But he told me, Will told me that there's a girl that he might have gotten the wrong, that might have gotten the wrong impression and she might like him. And Brad's like, so I'm trying to figure out who is this girl, right? And I got a text from a friend saying, apparently she moved in with him shortly.

And Mia's like, what? It's like, yeah, they were full on living together.

And Mia's like, "Well, if Troy had a female friend crashing with him, oh wow, we would only be thinking of him now and in memory. Okay? In memory. Fuck this. This is ridiculous. I mean, maybe give Will the benefit of the doubt and say like, 'What was going through your head when you would allow a woman to stay in your apartment?'" So they're ready. And TJ's like, "I'm worried about Emmy, which is why I'm going to give her another nervous breakdown on TV." Brad's like, "Yeah."

Just defending your man blindly? Just find out what everything said was true? So, now it's like, dun-dun-dun-dun-dun, prom night. So, we're here at the 20th South Battery. Now,

A lot of these Charleston homes look the same and these venues look the same, but I feel like we've had so many scenes on Southern charm at this place. How many fights have happened with those wrought iron gates and those stone pillars? I don't know. Is that just because all the houses have those elements, but like it's not a season finale on one of these shows unless there's gates and pillars. That's like the backdrop with antiques that nobody can sit on.

So Will and Emmy are just walking around the mansion, you know, pretending to be classy. And then Will's like, "Yeah, I bet everybody else is like pre-gaming already, right?" And then we cut to the bus where they're like, "Yeah!" Like twerking. And then back to Will and Emmy being boring. It's just like classical music playing. ♪ It's time for a commercial ♪ ♪ It's time for a Crappin's commercial ♪

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Yeah. And Emmy's just like, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. So Will and Emmy, they eventually go to the ballroom. And Will's like, this is way cooler than my prom. I mean, I don't even like my prom. And I don't like this either. I'm bored. Can I go? So Emmy's like, look, this is going to be amazing. Look, we can dance. It could be like Beauty and the Beast. So Will's like, okay, cool. So then outside, everyone comes out of the party bus. They're all drunk and they're all having fun. Like, woo!

And Maddie's like, I feel like I'm walking into a wedding night right now, Joe. And Joe's like, yeah, we're already married. Remember? Remember? Remember? So it's just wedding stuff. Everybody's like, party, taking selfies, going to the bar. Oh, my God. And so Michael's and his boyfriend Preston have a conversation. He's like, the other day you referenced the fact that we're exclusive. So I just want to kind of see where your head's at with that.

Cause yeah, I was laying in bed with Preston and he mentioned that he deleted all of his dating apps, hinting at the fact that he's only getting blowjobs in public parks now without seeing anybody online first. That's like huge. Yeah.

It was like a very big pinch me kind of moment. So Preston's like, yeah, I'm definitely all yours and I'd like you to be all mine, but I'm also aware that there's an age gap. And she says that like Preston's 26 and Michael's a 22. And Preston's like, Preston is not 26. I'm sorry. That is not a 26 year old face. And I'm not even age shaming because I'm still like almost double his age, even if that is his real age. But no, there's not enough sun damage in the world to do that to a 26 year old. Did you grow up in a microwave? No, sir.

Listen, good for Preston. He's like, this is the hottest guy I've ever dated. I'm going to lock him down. So Michaels is like, you know, I just want for me, I want you to know that these are things that like, I don't want you to have to worry about because like all those experiences, I want to have them with you. In fact, I got six cakes that say, will you be my boyfriend, please? So enjoy.

So then everyone's on the dance floor, like, partying. And Will and Emmy are just sitting alone, looking, like, bored. And Will's like, I'm exhausted, dude. I'm a lawyer. So then Austin shows up, alone. He looks sad. He puts a corsage to the side, because he's alone. And he's like, well...

Hallie isn't coming and Michael's like wait hold on. Let's talk over here. Okay Do you want to present this to me in cake form? It's like no no no well

Will's been on the phone today. He straight up called Ali's brother this morning and he convinced he, and he's convinced that's where I heard the rumors that I brought up in Vegas. But no, I heard the rumors from Ali's schmother, not her brother. I'm like, we know you heard it from the brother because the producers asked you earlier in the season, are you trying to cover up to protect Ali? And he was like, yeah.

Well, he heard it from Allie and Allie heard it from the brother, I guess. So he's like, Allie is like absolutely devastated. Her brother didn't even know we're seeing each other again because like, I mean, Will might have just ruined my relationship because he's in a secret relationship because the family hates him because he's a lying damn cheater. That's why. Yeah. So Will just basically outed him.

It's just so glossed over that he and Ally clearly had some horrific breakup a year ago where he lied and said vicious, terrible things. I just love that's just a side thing. I'm like, are we not noticing? Austin has some darkness swirling around him.

Yeah, and he's like, it's all Will's fault that she's not coming. Oh, okay. So he's like, Michael's is like, kudos to Will for going to the source because I would do the same. But like, you know, why wait till prom to have this conversation? I mean, the timing's weird as fuck. It's like weird as fuck. It is true. It is true. Like, why the night before do you wait to like do this? So, um...

Now Brad goes up to Austin and Michaels and Brad's like, so Ali is not coming. And Austin's like, no. Remember how at Run Club the other day we thought Will was convinced that the bullying and the rumors were from Ali's brother? Well, he literally intimidated her into not coming. They're like, whoa. So now everybody else is dancing. You know, we see party shots and stuff like that. And then we hear, oh, oh, oh.

And it's Grace Lilly coming up with a bunch of guys. And one of them is O'Sheen. So she comes in and everyone's like, oh my God, Grace Lilly's here with O'Sheen. And then Eva sees it and she's like, oh.

And Maddie's like, oh my God, I think Grace Lilly is here. And so then everyone's just like shocked, you know, cause this is such a messy, messy turn. So Mia's like, somebody let Oisin and Grace Lilly in this motherfucking party. Golly, ga motherfucking lee.

So Grace Lilly is like, well, she and I have been friends forever. So whether or not you like him, we know how to have a good time. That's what we do.

He's like, oh yeah, the milk is thicker than ever, brother. So Austin's like, ugh. So Maggie's like, oh my God, why? I ride for Grace, but she makes me look so stupid when she does shit like this. And then Molly's like, the audacity to show up with O'Sheen shows that Grace gives zero fucks about her friendship with Eva, who I suddenly care a lot about because I just met her. And it also kind of shows that she doesn't respect or give a shit about Maddie.

And Maddie's like, you are so fucking messy, Oshie. I'm like, I can't with you. And he's like, ah, my darling sis, you knew what you were getting into when you became friends with me, babe. You knew what you were getting into.

So, um, meanwhile, everyone else was on the porch and, uh, she, Mia goes up to Emmy and will, and it's like, um, you guys look like you're having the worst time ever. And cause like, they're just sitting there to the side looking sad, which is also kind of like fucked up because Emmy planned this whole party and this party was for will. And will is being such a, like a downer this entire time. So, and Emmy's the sort of girlfriend where she's like, well, if he's being a downer, I have to be a downer too. So they're just sitting there miserable at their own party.

I'm a glorious wife. And Emmy does that thing. Well, I thought Emmy was going to be like, well, everyone's like, no one's apologized to us. Like, and it's so awkward with everybody, but she goes, yeah. Cause my dad told me it was going to be catered with sushi, but it wasn't. And now I have to eat crab cake. And Will goes, yeah, I don't like crab cake. Glorious don't eat that.

She probably loves crab cakes, but Will doesn't like crab cakes, of course. So then she has to not like crab cakes. So ridiculous. So then Brad and Austin are talking about Will, you know, Austin's tattletaling to Brad about it.

And then TJ goes right up to Maddie and Molly and he's like, I just want you to know that I had it confirmed that Will cheated with a girl from law school and orchestrated the affair to take place specifically while he was on a ski trip. Right? And I mean, the timing has to be with Will being able to take this girl to real law prom and he allegedly had the girl move in with him for a few weeks while Emmy was away. That's right. Hold on. Let my eyes drift left to right really quick.

I literally cannot take TJ seriously in this entire scene because he is dressed like Jude Law in AI. Like he literally looks like that, like gigolo robot. His face is like, like buffed and polished and his hair looks like it's like, it's like just plastic. And he has the same kind of disco shirt on. And I'm like, I cannot, I just can't stop thinking about Jude Law.

And Maddie's like, no, not law prom. And he's like, yeah, law prom. Did you hear me? And then he's shit talking Emmy around town. And that was just to get Emmy to catch wind of his drunken behavior and ultimately break up with him so he wouldn't have to break up with her. Got it? Does everybody understand? Because he allegedly felt guilty about cheating. So he tried to self-sabotage the relationship. Case dismissed. Hot dog. Hot dog. Am I right?

the producer's like, yeah, this is all well and good, but, um, Emmy's made it clear that she wants people to leave her and her relationship alone. So why are you getting yourself involved? I mean, thank you, but why? And she's like, um, well, it's like one of those things like, um, we're like, if it's like, um, in a longterm situation, um,

See, the thing is, I mean, when you put a hot dog in a bun, well, I guess I want someone to do the same for me. I want someone to do the same for me. I like that one. We'll go with that one. I want someone to do the same for me. They're just like, you're just fucking messy, dude. He's just like, hot dogs.

So then Maddie's like, I mean, the fucked up thing is like now we're here for this imitation law prom air quotes. And here's Emmy overcompensating for her own version, which he took another girl to his own law prom. And I heard it that law prom, they ate sushi. The sushi was delivered. I mean, I love this show that they're doing a fake law prom and there's nothing legal about it. Like it's just like a prom, but it's also a law prom. Yeah.

to compensate for the fact that Will went to law prom with someone else and didn't, and Emmy didn't get to go to that law. I mean, it like literally makes no sense, but they're like just all going with it. So now we have Oisin, everyone's dancing and Grace Taylor's like, eh,

And then Will sat on the porch eating a crab cake and being miserable about it. And then Molly sits down next to Oisin on the couch. And then Grace Lilly comes over and she's like, "Hey, you look great by the way." And Molly's like, "I know." Grace Lilly's like, "Huh?" You're supposed to say, "Thanks doll." - And Molly's just looking at her. She's like, "I'm on TV and this is how we look at each other on TV."

And so Grace is like, can I talk to you private? Come on over here private like, okay. I literally just complimented you, honey. I was literally being sincere and you just said, I know. And Molly's like, this is how you flick your hair on TV.

Molly is like, you know, I feel like Molly is getting kind of overshadowed this season because Molly has Molly's come out guns blazing and she's doing she's hitting all her beats just right. And I just want to give a little appreciation for Molly. I think she's been a wonderful addition. So Grace is like, that was condescending and rude. And honestly, you should work on your character because I know Jesus and Bob Marley personally, and you don't want to get on the wrong side of us three. And Molly's like, you are such a psychopath.

So then Oshin just looks like, oh, yeah. He's like, every time I arrive, there's a fucking problem, eh? Yeah, nailed it. So then...

Grace Lilly is still sitting there with Molly and Molly's still giving her the soap opera dirty look. So Grace Lilly just starts like gening her hands. I don't even know what you call it, but she starts like doing this like weird hand dance in front of her. She's like, yeah. And there's like sparkle. They put on sparkles. Yeah. They add sparkles to it. She's like, yeah. And Molly's like, what is that? What the fuck is that? She goes, I'm trying to get your energy away from me because that shit is toxic.

The show is so great. Like I dare people to watch the show and not crack up. So now Lake and Oshina are on sitting on one of the sofa and Joe and Maddie are kissing on another end and

lots of stuff is just going on all over the party and Oisin is like being very flirtatious with Lake he's like so what's in that box of tricks you got in there do you want to see my box of tricks do you like dairy and she's like nothing fancy he's like oh I like that purse though thanks ha and she's like god I really like his that accent I love that I love he has like a Jon Snow accent and she says like she's basically like

If he had Austin, if Austin had O'Sheen's accent and Joe's hair, that would be like the hottest guy ever. Austin's body? Well, yeah. If you took all those things from all sorts of different guys, you could make the hottest guy ever. So then...

Grace is like, well, I literally, she's still with Molly. She's like, I literally told Eva that night that there was a possibility I'd be fucking O'Shane. And she's like, oh my God, Maddie, come here. She's doubling down. And Maddie's like, Grace, you told me last week at Republic, you knew it was wrong and you wanted a chance to apologize. And then in walk Eva and Fran. Hi, I'm Fran. I'm just here for moral support. What are you guys talking about? It's that wacky Fran and Eva. They're like, mm.

So Eva's like, well, Grace literally never warned me about wanting to hook up with O'Sheen. Fran can attest to that, can't you, Fran? Yeah, I can attest to it. Listen, I got this bitch's back. I'm Fran, best friend.

And O'Sheen's like, "Girls, girls, please." And she's like, "Get over him. He doesn't fucking like you, Eva." And Eva's like, "He doesn't like you." And she goes, "Yeah." And Maddie goes, "He doesn't like any of you all. He's a whore." And Fran's going, "Liar, liar, liar." I'm like, "Go get him, Fran. You do it, Fran. Good for you." And Grace slowly goes, "Yeah, well, Maddie, you sucked his dick into loom."

And Joe's like, oh my God, I don't want to hear a lot. So Grace is like, and Matt is like, oh no, what?

"Yeah, you're not a friend. Okay, you burned that bridge." - So now outside- - Oh, I guess I'm not a friend. - Michael's is confronting Will about all the goss about this girl. And now he texted the brother and ruined things for Austin. And so Will's like, "What? I just sent one text." And Michael's is like, "Well, because of that, Austin's girlfriend isn't here." And he's like, "Why is anyone giving it light?" Like, I mean, it's like so attenuated.

I don't even want to give it a breath of air. I hate air by the way. So then this is that doesn't even make sense. What is he talking about? He's like, I love this show. When he says attenuated, it cuts the Michaels and it goes, it's like almost like someone like, it's like when a cat gets up on a counter and you squirt it with a water gun and the cat's like, so attenuated hits Michaels. Like, I don't even know what that word means. They're like, do you know what attenuated means? He's like,

I have not heard that word before. Hey, Siri, what does attenuated mean? Siri's like, it is a word that should not be used on Southern hospitality. Thanks, that's what I thought. You're not the only one on this cast who doesn't know this word, including the one who just spoke it.

So then we go back to the porch and Austin's like, Will is the one I need to talk to. So Mia's like, oh my God, this is like this short, this is like a tiny balcony. Get over here and just talk to him. So she pulls him over and she's like, okay, you're two grown men. You need a mommy to put them together. So listen, tell them what you know. If you know anything, if you know nothing, say nothing. Now I've connected you. Go ahead. I'm not leaving. I'm staying here. I'm an audience. Go ahead.

So then, of course, Emmy is like, okay, I want to be part of this because, you know, Will's like, let's go talk privately. And Emmy's like, I want to be part of this. I would like to listen. They're like, no, just the two of them. She goes, no, I should be able to listen in. And then TJ's head just appears. He's like, someone say hot dogs? Yeah, TJ appears out of nowhere and just like leans in on the railing. Like, just be cool. Like, just pretend I'm not even here. I'm totally not going to use this gossip against you guys. Come on.

the hot dog cart lid pops open and he just pops out. And then all of a sudden Brad appears and then all of a sudden Joe appears. It's like in the Simpsons whenever there's like a ruckus in the street and all the little characters appear in the background. All the towns. So, and he's like, I'm not doing this in front of everybody. This is crazy. Like I just had to eat part of a crab cake. You know?

I hate crab cakes now on behalf of Will. I had a sympathy crab cake. So now they try to leave, but then everybody follows them out onto the sidewalk. And here we are, the greatest set piece outside of Matchin'.

But also, by the way, I think what's also funny is that they pulled this whole thing of like, well, we're not going to have this conversation in front of everyone. Like, why does it always have to be in a group setting? Like, why is it that if we're going to talk privately, Emmy's like, why does it have to be like this? We're just trying to talk privately. It's like, Emmy, you were the first one who barged in on the conversation. You're not part of this conversation either. Yeah, because she's got to be there to stand up for Will. Because she's Will's woman, okay? It's different, Ben. Yeah.

Yeah. So Joe's like, I hope to God it's not true. But like, we wouldn't even know because every time someone brings up the rumors, you sprint away. And she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He can't even understand what he's saying. TJ's just so activated. He's just like speaking in tongues. TJ's like frothing at the mouth. He's like, I will yell at somebody. This is the season finale. You're not taking this away from me. So Will's like, TJ always needs someone to hate. Like it's become clear to me that this tunnel vision of hatred is now attenuated towards me. And we see a montage, to be fair, a montage of TJ, um,

basically scolding people from like, you see him, you see him sniping with Joe, Mikkel, Grace Lilly, and Will, which I think it's like, it is true. But then again, everyone has yelled at everyone and you could probably make a montage of everyone snapping at everyone on the show. TJ is the worst about taking shit that's none of his business and doesn't affect him at all and then screaming at you about it.

He's always been like that. Is he the worst or is he the best at doing it? It's fun to watch, but he's definitely the worst about it. And he's like, well, we know that, you know, he's like all mad and like waving his finger around. And he's like, we know who the other girl is. And you took her to the prom and stayed in your apartment. And Will's like, I did not take her to prom. And then he's like, um, wait, that girl, I know who that is. That's the girl we're talking about. Have you guys seen this girl?

And so Will and Emmy are like trying to explain like, that's just a classmate. Emmy knew she was there the whole time. She's like, um, and then Emmy tells us like, I'm not threatened by this particular friend. And I feel so bad for the friend who's sitting at home. Like, is she covered in warts on her face? Like,

what's wrong with this girl they're like it was fran it was fran all along so this girl's just like okay no one would cheat with me thanks guys basically will basically will said that he went to new york for watch what happens live and she was moving and so he let her crash at his place for two days and said like you have to leave though by the time i get back but

But by the way, Mia, at some point in this, Mia was like, I know Will. And Will is the most unfriendly person. And he would never let anyone stay at his house. That was her piece of evidence. So TJ's like, when are you going to realize that he's a fucking piece of shit that's going to fuck you over? She's like, not everyone is miserable, TJ. And he's like, no, except for you fucking guys. And he just runs off. And he goes off to Maddie.

And he's like, he is so, he is way too emotionally invested in all this shit. But obviously it's like hitting his damage. There's something about, I think, I think when he sees people who are not being truthful, he, it sets him off and he goes to a dark place that he doesn't need to go to. I think he just likes the drama. And it's a season finale. And he's like, oh, I'm going to yell it. Because then he runs right in and he goes, I just screamed at them.

I just screamed at them. He's like trying to get, he's trying to get like attention from the popular girl. And Maddie's like, oh my God, TJ, someone get this man a water. Look at TJ. My God, his bowling ball face is about to explode. Please, someone help TJ. So then Emmy at this point is like, her hands are doing the big like flappy thing. And she's like, everyone is always has something to say behind my back, but like never to me. It's like she's dribbling a very tall basketball.

And so Mia's like, "Um, because whenever we try to come for you, you always storm away." She's like, "Well, maybe because it's done at a party where everyone's watching and there is no sushi!" So they leave. Will and Emmy are like, "Let's go, baby." So they leave. And then everybody agrees that Will is guilty in a court of law prom of cheating. And they think that Emmy's a victim. So, you know, whatever. They're not mad at her, but fuck Will.

And Mia's like, yeah, unless she sees a video of him sticking his dick in somebody else, she's going to stay forever. She would stay even with that. She would stay even with that. Yeah, I think she would. She'd be like, boys will be boys. You know, it's hard being a lawyer. Yeah, that could have been just a doctored video. Like, Will told me he was seen on video doing this. And like, I knew about it. It's fine. I already yelled at him. At least there was sushi at his set.

So, so yeah, that's, so they go off into the night. They never have to answer to anything. Yeah. At 24, I lost my narrative or rather it was stolen from me. And the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes and politics. I,

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So they have romantic endings. And Joe's like, we're going to have ups and downs. The fact that we know how to cope with the ups and downs and that we see a future together, that is perfect. And Maddie's like, yeah, it's going to be great. And Cloris Leachman's in the background in her green dress clapping. Like, what a great moment. What a special time for us all. So we think it's over. And then we get...

The film rewinds and it's 10 days ago at Republic. And we hear Will, we don't see him, but we hear Will and they're like in the kitchen or whatever. And he's talking to the producers and he's like, "I don't know when would be the appropriate time for this, but I have information that would be like an atom bomb." And we screenshotted all of our group texts.

So there would be like some redemption in it for me and her, but like, I don't think we've seen Maddie activated this season. So like, why don't we turn it on Maddie? Like did they just show Will trying to be messy with the producers?

Yeah. So then we go into the reunion, which is a watch what happens live reunion. It's a clubhouse. I feel like next season they deserve to have a proper reunion with like sofas and everything. But so Andy Cohen's got everyone there. Everyone's there. And the big thing that comes out at this reunion, because Maddie is like,

She's rattled. Okay. Like, cause Andy's like, it takes 10 minutes for him to say hello to the entire cast, but he's like, hi Joe. Hey Andy. Hi TJ. Hi Andy. Hi. Hi Maddie. She's like, okay, what happened to Maddie Reese? She looks, she looks shell shocked right now.

Well, she says she's under the weather, but we find out what happened last night. Will dropped the bomb. Will, you're so bad at this. You do this shit at the reunion. You don't do it the day before and give everybody like a heads up. What's wrong with him? He did the same thing with the brother. He should have had the brother show up at the prom and say that's not true or whatever. And now he's doing it again where he's just blowing his wad before they shoot. So Will has decided not to show up. He pusses out of the whole thing.

- What a wuss. - What a wuss. You know what, here's the thing, is that last season, Maddie was in the hot seat with Trevor, which is obviously gonna be relevant in this reunion, but Will was a crusader against that situation. He and Emmy were very vocal about it. They went to Miami and Maddie left in the middle of dinner to go off with Trevor or whatever. And he's like, "Why doesn't Trevor show up?" I mean, I seem to remember him saying these things,

But he was like, he was grilling Maddie. He was aggressive about it as were everyone else. But the point is that like he wanted Maddie to show accountability. It became a whole thing. And now this season when he has to face the fire, not only does he not show up at the reunion to like at least answer things and dispel rumors, he sits there backstage while Emmy has to take all the heat for him. It is so shitty. What a piece of shit.

Yeah, he really is. But you know, stupid Emmy is just like, like he just couldn't do it. It's like for his mental health. It's like super important when you're a lawyer to have mental health guys. So you need to have like a really mentally sharp and unattenuated mind to hold that highlighter above your ear. Okay. So it's just, it's for him. It's for his legal career. So we start right off with it. So, uh,

Basically, Maddie starts crying. She's like, I just found out the news last night. Just last night, guys. Just last night, Joe. Just last night, Joe. I don't know what's real and fake. We find out that Will came to her and told her, showed her all the group texts, which proved that all the stuff about Trevor cheating with that girl last year was a lie. And basically, they all went with it anyway, just to throw...

Maddie under the bus and have her break up with Trevor, which is just so shitty. And Brad's excuse is like, well, I mean, I didn't like her then. And so, you know, basically this girl, I was training this girl. She told me about this and that she said that she made out with him, but then she admitted once she saw it getting out of control, she admitted that it was a lie. But by then it was just too late for me to say anything. And I didn't like Maddie anyway. And then they just let him off as if the entire part of the last episode, wasn't Brad doing this again.

Yeah. This exact same thing again. Exactly. I mean, I mean, it's funny because my memory of season two was that,

it was never really clear whether Sammy hooked up with Trevor. I mean, we all kind of believed it because Trevor still is a piece of shit, regardless of whether he hooked up with this guy or not. Like he was, he was garbage. And, and you know, Maddie does say that, but Brad says that like, he basically is like, yeah, um, at first she, she had lied to me and said they hooked up, but then she said they hadn't looked up at that point. I was already so deep into it. So we just went along with it, which is, it is, it is sucky because it does also, um,

Like it means that his case against will is much weaker like you just said about you know about like what he heard about lost Law school like he's clearly a proven liar But really the first part is like Maddie being like my reality is like distraught like I don't know It's real and I don't know what's fake anymore. Okay, settle down and still this is just about Sammy and and Trevor so it's not that deep and

But it is because her whole thing with Trevor was you've cheated on me. I don't want to be with you again. And he's like, I changed. No, I promise you I've changed. So she gets back together with him. He's accused of cheating again. And she's like, I can't because you're accused of cheating again. And this is obviously you're lying. But she stayed with him.

What? She stayed with him after that. The thing is that like breaking up with him after all the stress of it and stuff because it caused all the stress in their relationship, but he didn't cheat on her. So maybe he had changed. So, I mean, I don't think that you do when you're a Trevor. I don't think that he did change, but that's not the point. It's not like whether I think he could change, but in this girl's mind, she's like, I broke up with like the love of my life because of you guys. And they were all in on it. Everybody knew in the group text.

and joe's like i don't i didn't know anything bullshit joe knew too but joe is lying because he wants to keep maddie so she's like okay you guys had me break up with the love of my life and now i'm settling for like a friend because i'm so traumatized when i should have been with that guy this whole fucking time and now i'm living out my dreams i could be with that guy but instead i'm with this friend because you guys have forced me into this fucking situation so right well and we can see that this has also changed people's

of Will because at one point Andy asks who here thinks that like the rumors are true about Will and actually not as many people raised their hands whereas I think at the end of the season they all believed it

So, you know, Will has like, that's definitely like the needle has moved more towards Will. But I think the thing is that like, it's like whether Will cheated or not, it's never been totally clear. But what has been clear is that he has been a shitty boyfriend to Emmy and he talks shit about her and he let her take the brunt of like all these accusations and he would always hide away instead of like facing them. And

And that like that, none of this takes away from the fact that he's really shitty for doing that. And he should have appeared on this reunion stage

and said, look, I just got this information. And I and this proves that you are all unreliable narrators. And you're all more interested, even though I was part of it, too, in weaving a tale that's good for TV. And you don't care who gets hurt in the process. And this year, it's me who's getting hurt in the process. And everything you guys say should be taken with a grain of salt, because you're obviously liars. And you're proven liars. This was he at the

He was the one who introduced the evidence, but then he didn't show up for his own court case. Yeah, he's an idiot. Yeah, Will's... There's nothing standing up for Will, but it's obvious that TJ and Brad in specific are like... Or in particular are liars. They've done it two seasons in a row, and that's just not good. And the whole cast was on board with it. It's just so gross, and I...

I don't blame Maddie for being pissed, but they still keep turning it on Will being a bad boyfriend, which he is. But you guys are terrible fucking friends. I mean, you are all terrible. And it also goes to show you like the level of self-producing that goes even to like a season two of this show. You know, that they're like, no, no. They all get on the group text like a bunch of housewives. Like, here's how we're going to bring this bitch down. You know? Yeah. It was funny how Brad was like, well.

I am going to do something that Will was not able to do, which is I'm going to be accountable. And this is what I did. He sort of like he presents it like this is actually evidence of him having good character. Yeah, he's such a good person. You're not accountable when you're already in jail. You know what I mean? It's like a jailhouse confession. Like you were already caught, buddy. OK, it's not just you coming forward and being accountable. You were busted. Yeah.

So yeah, Maddie doesn't really seem to be mad at all of them, but she does seem to be shell shocked, you know, and Joe, I don't believe for one second.

Maddie is so shell shocked of the poor thing. She looks like she looks like she looks like she saw a ghost she is she just looks out of sorts for this entire reunion and she is she's like traumatized for the whole hour. Yeah, and then and then Emmy is also I mean She's she's crying and at one point she's like, oh

And Lake is like, oh God, they just start laughing. And Emmy is like, no Lake, be quiet. You don't understand. Like Emmy is going through it. And Leva is like, I don't feel for love for Emmy either. Cause she was in on this. Like you can't spend an entire season lying about somebody else and then cry when it happens.

And by the way, it didn't even come from Maddie, who deserved to get revenge on your ass. It came from the same people that you were butting up to to take her down. So fuck off. And Leva's like, you don't have to take on, you know, all of you're taking on too much of Will's bullshit. And she's like, but I don't.

Like crab cakes anymore. It's like okay There was also a big portion of the reunion that was dedicated it was actually like really fascinating interesting a lot of discussion about like gay stuff and it was interesting because you have Michaels and you have TJ and then you have Andy and you have Michaels who's relatively new on his journey and you have TJ who's been Been through like ten years or so of it and has been like traumatized by queer baiting and you have Andy who's kind of like mother Henning them and

And it was actually a very, they were touching moments, but there was a moment where there was a clash with Joe and TJ because they started to rehash the whole thing of like, like, "TJ, why would you go around telling everyone that Joe's gay? You told everyone that Joe's gay." And they're really coming down hard on TJ. And if they're like, TJ is like trying to keep it together. And at one moment, the reason why I bring this up is because Grace literally tries to jump into TJ's defense. And she goes, "Look,

I scissored a woman, I scissored a girl once. In this very serious moment, like talking about like, like what, like queer baiting and like emotional trauma for it. And like what was said privately, what's starting rumors, what's just venting to your friends and everything. Hey, hey, hey, I scissored a girl once, guys. Doesn't make me gay.

Yeah, that whole thing, too, because that turns out that Joe and TJ made up during the season, but then Joe ditched him again once he saw all the footage because he saw how TJ was talking behind his back and he didn't like that. And then TJ starts crying and pulling this victim shit again. I'm sorry, but...

you're in the wrong, you're just in the wrong period. I mean, I get a lot of the stuff and we had the discussion during the season about the plot line of like, well, you know, it's not really right for Joe to like lead somebody on and then kind of hook up and then the other person's supposed to be silent and this and that. But TJ literally was going around to everybody being like, Joe's gay, Joe's gay, Joe's gay, trying to kind of ruin his reputation. And we never got to the part of the conversation of like, can we get to a time where being gay doesn't ruin someone's reputation? That would be nice. The South.

Like, we didn't get to that part of the conversation. But TJ just starts this shit where he's confronted with stuff, what he did wrong, and he starts crying. And he's the biggest victim because he's been queerbaited. Well, stop fucking hooking up with straight guys then. Like, at some point, you have to, like, take some kind of responsibility. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think at this reunion, TJ was just, like, he was just not winning it for me.

he had he had a tough reunion i don't know i i did feel bad for him because i do think he's really been he's like profoundly you know um scrambled by like his what whatever his gay journey has been like he he's he's everything that we talked about with tj tonight it's all wrapped up in this and like self-loathing and and who knows what and i think like it's i think it's like a very murky thing i think

Yeah, it's not right to say, don't hook up with Joe because he's gay. But I also think he's allowed to tell his friends, like, I think that Joe might have had feelings for me. So it's a complicated situation. And I just feel bad because I see him just like tangled up in his own bullshit right now. But I also feel bad because it's like,

I thought you guys settled this during the season. Like, why did, like, I don't know. I don't think it's, I don't think it's cool that Joe Bradley, um, got mad all over again. Cause I'm like, you know what was discussed, like you getting mad. He doesn't know what was discussed behind his back and what TJ was saying and how he was discussing it with everybody else. You know, he only knows the conversation he had with TJ.

And I mean, when TJ was, when they were going through that scene, I thought that was such a good scene in the bar. And like, I related a lot to that scene because I've gone through that same period that TJ has, you know, I've had that, I've had those same loves and stuff that I really didn't understand. Um, because they were like quote unquote straight and they turned out just to be guys experimenting and stuff. Like I get that.

And I think if TJ had just come to the reunion and been like, I fucked up, I shouldn't have done it. You're right. Me going to those people and saying stuff was wrong, but I didn't understand it was wrong. Cause to me it was just like a hookup and I'm allowed to talk about a hookup. Like I didn't understand it was going to affect your dating life or whatever in Charleston or follow you around because we live in a fucking homophobic place and this and that. I think if he took more responsibility or accountability, then I wouldn't have been pissed, but he didn't. He just was like, well, it's because...

I've been traumatized by men. It's like, fuck off. Like at some point you have to take some responsibility, you know? And then you spent the whole season lying against someone who's your best friend, your other best friend, who's Will. Like that guy is just like, that's terrible. Like, especially after that. No.

No. Yeah. And then you have, uh, but then there was on the other side, you have Michaels who the poor guy, he's sobbing. He's sobbing there in the clubhouse talking about his mom. He thought that like, he thought the show was going to, um, like make his mom, I think realize what his, what his pain is that he carries. Um,

And he says his mom hasn't even reached out once. And if anything, like his mom has been like, why are people telling me that you're talking about being gay on TV? And so, but he did say his family members, like his, his aunts and like his siblings have been open and he's going to like, they're going to meet Preston and everything. But I felt so bad for Michaels. Cause he is really like, he clearly is like yearning to reconnect with his mother. And his mom is like, like I, this is,

she, I'm not going to say she's a piece of shit because she's a piece of shit. I'll say fuck that lady. Fuck that troll. Cause I'm like, I don't, yeah, I will say fuck that lady though. Like that's your son right there. How do you, how do you not reach out? Like how do you, when you see your child crying on TV and just wanting his mother's love and you're gonna, and you're just, you're just not going to talk to him. Like really lady go to shut up mountain. Yeah. Fuck that lady. Fuck you lady. Um,

Yeah. Some people are just shit people, you know, but she was lucky enough to have a non shit son. So that's good. Cause he's very nice. I mean, on Michael's behalf, I'm like, Oh God, please press and don't break his heart. Cause I just have a feeling. I'll just have a, I have a bad feeling about Preston. And I don't know why, because he seems so sweet. He's done nothing, but be very sweet on the show. So I don't know why, but I just, I don't know, but I love Michael's. I know. Michael's is so wonderful. Michael's is a great find. Uh,

he's gonna like he was he's a great breakout star for them um but yeah so it was a fun reunion and uh i'm i just i hope this show continues to thrive because it's given us three wonderful seasons of of content yeah so far so good show love this show and hopefully it started to break out a little bit you know it seems like more people are watching it and stuff this year so

Yeah, I think so. Let's see. Hope we get some more. But it's been a super fun season of Southern Charm. So thanks, show. Yeah, thank you. And thanks, everyone, for listening. And we will catch you on the next Crappens episode. Bye, everyone.

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