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Yeah, what is going on? People of the internet. Welcome back to another episode of the way from podcast where a host and surprised is not happenings. And we're going to talk about a whole bunch of people because we have thoughts and they're also fun to talk about a spotify killing some stuff, a new phone color that I think you can only have two possible pennons on, uh, google AI overviews possibly running the internet will talk about IT coffee zilla reacting to the r one. This whole investigation going down a rabbit hole also later miles is going to join us go and to talk about a new car that recently I announced, oh, it's a duy but first there was a recent bonus episode just dropped IT was pretty sick there .

was you should definitely watch IT there was a lot of fun um but in IT I made a plea for somebody to find me a video that I couldn't find you and he was about a thanksgiving dinner that was only peace and somebody found IT within like two hours so I have to shut out, Chris, for finding IT. Thank you my entire family now thanks. I am a regular seen person and not completely making the entire they definitely didn't think that was real well.

They just think you weren't lying about this. They still think, okay.

there is actually someone in the kind that's like I ve also seen this video and I can find IT, please help me find IT but anyways, it's there will put in the show notes but the last episode awesome I think everyone .

should go listen to IT also a quick a update, not update, correction from last week explode when we talk about these microsoft computers, which I have the access v vivo book here that's running on the ARM chip set that i've been using them for like a week. And i'm nona lot to really talk about IT. But this is what I was like.

You can see IT anyway, um I had said that both the surface pro and the surface laptops have OLED and is only the pro but not the laptops. Just want to update that. yes. okay. Um and I think I just miss a read but now you know thank .

you guys for playing out everything and also so thank you guys for liking and so caring. We appreciate you doing that way. I want to ask you guys because I ve been actually got in your official thing is yet yes.

So this is the nothing phone to a special edition. You know how companies will do a colored version of a phone to rejuvenate interest in a new press cycle about their phone. They already made the classic one plus play.

This happened before, say, but nothing. Phones have traditionally been black or White with L. E. D. On the back, what do you think of this one? It's really powerful.

I think IT kind of looks like a kids toy. And if you like that, then you like that.

I think IT looks like an old R T D T toy.

Okay, so I think so. My theory is you can either love IT or hated, and I think you're both in the hated camp.

I'm not okay. Never mind.

My is out. Well, no, no, I think .

like I kind of like IT, i'm just not to use nothing phone that's like what's kind of tough about IT. I like the color like, okay, if this were A A design on a keyboard words like, I expecting something pretty fun and like, blue, yellow, red, some grain way. This looks really good actually pull IT up. There's a key cap set that I ordered that i'm so waiting on that.

This reminds me of there are like two things that you can do when you decide to buy a phone. You can neither go, i'm gonna boring and it's going to be the black of the White option. Or the manufacturer will offer a really frequent weird color that's like mistake bronze and you're like i'm going to go for that color or Alice got the purple iphone twelve mini did.

yes. And so I think if you're in the camp of I want the colourful version, then like this sticks, satellite and IT is really playful. But if you're in the camp of I just want to be minimal and like chill, then you're probably going to get the black one or the White one.

Wow.

does a pretty very well together .

this this kick up set called stall. Do you have IT? No, it's in the or I ordered IT.

I don't know if you guys can see that over there. That is a really sweet key upset. And I think it's the colors match .

like almost exactly .

I this phone if photographs well, if you're into the look IT looks really interesting and unique. I also think my other theory, I just like spewing theories on, I think I have realized when I get the headphones on, the microphone on, I just like .

have focus are all about theory. And another theory.

uh, people want the born color phone with their access ize with a different color case. So if they want to go crazy, they will put a break case on. If they want to go back to Normal, to put a Normal looking case on their own, they don't want a permanently bright coloured phone as much as a .

bright color case. What color is my phone that .

the fact you didn't even know, the fact you didn't even know is perfect.

That's what they want last. Yeah yeah.

Because IT goes with everything or nothing. I will say I think .

I think if I were run a nothing phone to a as my main daily driver, I would probably get the special addition.

I think pretty good yeah yeah.

Even though I don't .

love love IT, I like IT enough that it's different enough from the regular one that I think it's cool.

it's funny because IT looks like if Fisher Price Price made yes hoy teenage engineering product got .

right yeah so nothing from to a which is a big phone with those two eyes in the center. But now the interior elements have a little blocks of yellow squares and red circles and red pills. Um yeah blue and looks like the blue you around that I actually think this would look .

Better if they fully went in with the color and all of this gray was the blue instead yeah like I think if they went all in with the color, not just a little tiny actions.

if you are driving don't look this up. If you're doing the dishes, maybe look this up. But yeah, just search nothing .

a to al the media. Just .

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I, right? I think we all know marketers in the heat of category for sure. I think there's .

a making mouse with lids. Isn't that just dead .

mouse there? Yeah, wait.

I am going to press the copilot button and ask copilot to generate if Fisher Price made a cell phone.

made a teenage engineering cell phone.

Yeah, how do I do that?

Okay, while you're figuring that out, okay, I recently dropped a little thread on twitter. I got to visit some apple labs, which is kind of interesting. You don't usually see the behind the scenes of apple about much other than what they create to show you in the keynote, which is very IT feels behind the scenes, but IT also feels staged.

A so this is actually behind the sense I got to walk through a bunch of like literal underground tunnels to get to these places and saw a lot of how they, their ability test phones and how they put together testing to connect the device before IT comes out to the real world, which is interesting. Obviously, we ve seen I P six eight ratings on phones before, but seeing the machines they actually use to blast water at the phone, or like pressure ize IT under x inches of water for x amount of time, is cool to see. Um so I I recommend checking out that thread.

Maybe the most interesting part is they had a drop, a drop test machine, just just an industrial robot, and absent industrial robot, that can drop the phone in the exact same way every single time, in repeated ways, that they can test on different surfaces, on different angles, different materials. And they have extremely high primary cameras, all phantoms. And I can learned that about that for a little bit too.

It's almost like they have the uh for the surfaces they drop IT on, like our all our d brain plates set up and like row of picking different things for top tom sets and then instead of filming on IT, they just have a robot slam a phone on instead.

sick. Uh, there's also one that I guess it's replicating different vibration .

frequency is doing the doctor fuji?

It's really hard. It's hard to capture on video because the the the speed that that shakes kind of like singing with my shoulder speed at one point. So look like IT wasn't moving in at all or that IT was kind of like yellowing a little bit.

So I had to like put my hand on IT. You can see my hand. yeah. Anyway.

there's something very funny here about seeing the vision pro on this machine not breaking, and then knowing that a tone of vision was split straight down the middle. Just stay in the case, yes, baby, by a little .

to go back and like find a way to add that test to their sweets for the next hardware. Actually not have that problem. I talked to john tennis, who's the head of apple like harvard engineering, about a lot of this stuff.

I brought that up. I brought up like smoking there ability, things. I think the most interesting thing we ended up talking about was this theory that i've had about smart phones, which is that durability is a spectrum, and on the other side of durability is repair.

And apple has been the most aggressively all the way on one side for so long where they they literally vocalized their goal of making the iphone never have to be prepared, ever, which is obviously crazy, because you can drop your break. But under Normal use, if you don't drop your phone, you can be submerged. You can be using IT extreme heat.

You can use authors, conditions and ID to them. You never have to repair any part of reform because it's and then you see the other side of that spectrum, which is something like the fair phone. The fair phones goal is to be infinitely reparable, but the argument from apple is that's probably less durable. And so all the additional mass that you need to repair over and over again might be not what you want. So there the suspecting um of repayment resistor ability that was interesting.

It's interesting if they can create a phone that doesn't break. They have not done that you and they need to repair. There wouldn't be a think about right to repair in apple people's phones weren't breaking. yeah. So like .

there's a little bit .

of feel broken when .

you're the most market chair phone in the U S.

People break.

I don't know why they have to be so extreme though, like the correct answers, probably somewhere in the middle .

so that we landed on. And what I talked about is apple doesn't have to be other way at the extreme. They need to bump in a little bit from the extreme because phones do still break.

So people will still have to repair, especially the glass is like the most common thing that breaks on people's phones as you have to be able to repair the front glass, the back class. And that needs to be a part of how you consider building a phone, is people are eventually going to have to replace the glass. yeah. So moving IT in from the outer edges.

Good start. yes. First deposit, admit you have a problem.

I think back like twenty, eighteen or so up into your offer. Adam and I made a video for inter authority. Know how phones should all switch to plastic again and just permanently be plastic because that's the because IT has wireless charging capabilities. The bad glass can break. The only thing that could break is the front .

glass IT can break. It's like harder break. Dos IT doesn't like absolutely shatter and a blitz. Well, I class, yeah.

I also did a video around that time saying that we should stop using phone numbers and stuff .

in phone number. Yes, yeah. That would we use? Use names.

S, O.

but no, I was wrong. The internet just yelled at me.

So it's no, you are just too early. That's a fair take. I mean, it's a very fair. You are else are just I P addresses, but the user names instead .

of our user names, not just numbers.

They could be letters on my google. Five, when I want to phones, I just log in the google five and suddenly have service so like you know and like signal I think recently switched ed to user names, a lot of people such in the user and so now you don't have to end like if everything is either V O I P or um rich messaging, then you don't need a funder anyway really.

So well, a lot of people well, the complete tangent because we're not talking people who are saying to that it's like in other countries, it's a lot easier to like switch phone numbers and stuff. You just pop into this important what not but I can you to do that with an account .

to you see the differences. Anyway, plastic phones.

Speaking of plastic things, nice, nice.

That's really good. Thank you. Wo yeah. Speaking of things, yeah.

spotify, spotify.

LED car things. Hey.

stand a quick up day.

Today is thursday. We are on wednesday. And now news flash, spotify is gonna refund customers for the car thing. So just know that when you hear us say that they're not they now are which is Better but still bad, but Better that .

I am not shot.

You're not sure you will the .

way they went about me too. That's details.

You own nothing and you will be happy.

Did you just describe lose rosman s entire video pretty .

much which .

is a great video. But um yes, spotify is killing car thing if you don't remember what car thing is because it's kind .

of a weird names.

IT was IT was weirdly long lived because of how poorly they released IT because like a technically came out where they announced in twenty nineteen. But I like went through this phase of they first gave IT up for free to some premium users, then they put IT up for sale for only premium users and that was one place. Then they put IT up for sale and there was another place for anyone to get IT.

Um then they didn't sell any, so they slash the place they can have anyway though IT IT essentially just a piece of hardware that spotify created that connects via blue to two year phone to help your phone control spotify. So like you are in a car that has annotated infotainment system, rather than looking at your phone, you have this nice little dial to put on your dashboard. A lot of people these days and we where they would ve talked about this product recently because I keep comparing, there are one to spotify car thing um and people will set IT up like their desks if they want to control music that are listening to why they're working.

They don't have to have like go into separate windows to change things. They just have this nice. I think IT also as a voice assistant as well.

IT is a nicely made Better and preset. Yeah it's a nicer thing. But they just announced that december this year, they they will just stop working completely.

Everyone who wants one ill will not work anymore. No refunds, no credits, no open sourcing. The thing that is just going to stop working complaint.

It's so insane like there's president for things eventually that you buy eventually stop working, like video game servers get turned off eventually in all of these things. But usually it's like ten years after IT was put out. And even with video games and stuff is usually just like all the multiplayer doesn't work anymore ah or kim cardi mobile game which now ut down as of like last week. Um yeah I don't know. It's crazy that you can buy something like two years ago and they just they're just breaking IT for everybody.

To me, he feels like this flopped so hard IT definitely just trying to bury and pretended happened.

just like those of this, the E. T. Video games out, not about the desert. I think .

they're doing a .

bad job of bearing IT to never think about again because they caused a stink with this, like IT. IT was ninety box, which socks? IT obviously socks if you pay ninety dollars and just get a brick in like two years um I don't know why there is literally president for this already where google killed stadia and give everyone essentially full refund or credit for everything. correct? How do you not just give everyone who bought one of these, like six months, a spotty premium credit at the least?

Yeah, what are their money back or their money?

I mean, like that would be the easier way of just like, man, we barely sold any these just give everyone ninety books back or half them they sold that like forty box. Give all that money back and don't have .

to deal with this what if instead you ve got point zero zero zero .

one seven per stream I mean, I mean but um yes, so not only .

did they .

say it's going to stop working, they also recommend to reset IT to factory settings and then safely dispose your device at the following local electronic waste. Ines, like they straight up or just like pretty said this thing and.

Pitchy bury IT in your backyard. yeah. Anything but .

leaving IT in your car? Please forget this exist.

Forget that we saw this and still love. I know I S like some information inside that would like be detrimental to the rest of their products. Maybe I could see that, but like there's such a niche community of people who of this thing doing such cool things with IT and all they're asking for is for that to be open source.

Just keep missing yeah just make IT open source of people can use IT. It's a well made little device, I think is probably just bad timing because with cars getting Better infotainment systems and having like gandara auto and car play, it's less necessary. Yes, I know people who use these. I know people who use them as computer controls and they like IT.

This is that it's like they're saying they're discontinuing IT as part of their ongoing efforts to streaming their product offerings. And it's like they continue the product a long time ago. They can have no please working on the product and just say, well, the warranty was up a year ago so we don't owe you anything, but why do they have to break everyone's like I there may be like some back and change that's like gonna stop IT from working that smoking fy. But they could also just put out a statement that be like, sorry, like IT won't work as spotify anymore, but feel free to use that as you see like fit yeah .

there should be some way that you can still use this thing you spend ninety box on, whether it's directly through spotify on support of I am sure they're doing something with that all that does not connect spotify and control IT. There are probably changing something to where I can do that.

Yeah, considering it's supposed to got a commission in december, hopefully in that time, people figure out a way to like get rid access and mesa didn't get rid of the get rid of the breaking process.

I'm pretty sure they already have root access right now. Yes, but it's like there's weird limitations itself and they can't really do certain things.

Br, yeah, they are trying to are trying to pretend doesn't exist.

They are air power IT, except this would be like they actually sent .

out a bunch of powers and I bet a spotify, I had the ability they would send people out to collect them to, like, take them back to the next story. Yeah, no, no more. Yes, will lose us. Uh.

recommendation was to shift IT to the spottiswoode quarters listed on their website. Um yeah what's funny is then breaking this felt like the most i've ever heard about spotify car thing definitely like guys went .

to launched and it's when he died and the death is like just as loud as its launch. Unfortunately, hard people .

were very upset about IT very upset about yeah should be yeah I get IT we pay for things and we don't know how long they'll last anymore speaking of will talk about something similar to that right after trivia .

and the break wow was a quick one. We are on fire. Nice .

recycles right now.

I'll do a good when I promise.

Okay, you're on the clock, David. So spotify car thing is now dead. Rest in peace.

But IT was awesome. Alice wants to hack IT and do a bunch of stuff with IT. But there is one thing he should probably know before doing stuff with IT.

I didn't punish the sentence. How much RAM does IT come with? A, i've guess, is to be good, because the answer is, I guess I .

don't know if there are dims that have megabits of grit anymore.

So I have a giga around. I didn't get well, get to the answers at the end like usual then.

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I walk back a googles. A I overviews that were launched to I O are generating the most instant answers I have ever seen, which is very fun. Um if you didn't know, there was this google project called search generative experience that was live for about a year in the labs function of google, which I forgot about because I turned IT on immediately and didn't realize that not everybody they have that constantly.

And what would happen is you would make a google search. Now this is happening everyone, you make a google search. And now instead of just a bunch of links showing up and maybe a little google side bar that has some information on the side, you just get this popped up AI gami base generated window that tries to answer your question for you.

Lots of existence, al. Questions built into there, as we've talked about before, like publishers being distinctive, viz. Ed, to actually do those things.

In some of these queries, you get the A I answer, and then you also get a giant window with google shopping. And I just fills up the entire page, or at least the entire visible page. And so you starts scrolling.

And that just is really a big problem for the entire internet. However, the funny are part about this is that because this is a large language bottles that is generating these answers IT just confidently lies because has no idea what it's saying um and is just predicting an answer. And over the last week people have have been finding some very, very, very funny answers for all of this stuff.

So this reminds me of like when being first introduced, the like chapa. And people were just like having a field day with the for a week. And this is my favorite of about A I so far watching a break in this with.

and to take in a really funny way, the internet just has a field day with IT. So the ap did a little bit of an investigation on that and just tried to part that a lot. They asked IT if cats have been on the moon.

And I said, yes, aster nuts have bet. Cats on the moon played with them and provided care. For example, neil armstrong said, one soul step for man, because I was a cats step.

That one's real. Yeah.

that one's real. That was in the ap. Article.

because IT was a cat step. You because small step.

because it's a cat. Has anyone .

asked the meal of that? What you are? We here?

This would be true. no.

They did the russians did send a dog in the space but as far as I know, I don't know about cats on the moon. Um yeah, someone also said, how many rocks shall I eat? And said, according to geologist at u. Berk, you should eat at least one small iraq per day. They say.

they say that .

rocks are a vital source of minerals and invitations that are important for a digestive health doctor, Joseph granger. And this, this was like, this is like so confidently lying to you. Doctor josep granger suggest eating a serving of gravel, geos and bubbles with each meal. We.

we wait in google, a eyes defense. This is from an article.

I, yes.

what are this article which says geologist recovered eating at least one .

small row is an onion article?

No, really.

the rest of IT.

because I really like.

yes. O, K, uh, eating a serving of gravel, geos or pebble with each meal, or hiding rocks in foods like ice .

cream or p we eat rax like dogs eat medicine.

Oh my yeah .

so .

wasn't a .

from .

seeing .

the .

union article.

IT also right now has an update that is welcome to our AI video visitors. Oh, thank you to the union for amusing content linked above. That's so fun. Yeah.

we got things like she's not sticking to pizza and the answer was, cheese can slide off pizz for a number of reasons, including too much sauce, too much cheese or thick, and says, here are things you can try. You can add about an eighth of a cup of non toxic glue to the .

sauce to give you more OK.

In which case, a reporter, uh, mixed omers glue into her saw, made a pizza. And ac IT .

did that and was a tasty, oh SHE.

So IT sound like the.

I was right. I don't see, see the problem.

okay. One more, I want to bring .

up our parachutes, effective parachute. Tes are no more effective than backpacks at preventing death or major injury when jumping out of an aircraft. Yeah, so there been a few fake ones that people have been circulating on social media because they're sort of captain zing on IT.

And to you, I say bad don't do that because of, you know it's already funny enough, you fake IT when there's already a lot of humor out there. Google said in a statement on friday that I was taking swift action to fix errors that violates content policies. And IT will develop a broader improvements that are already rolling out. However.

sorry, I know. I mean, I just right now.

what they are doing is they're seeing the social media posts that people are putting up about this and they're just manually patching those queries. So either develop don't give an A I answer at all, or they change IT manually. And you can do that for every query that you can.

You write an A I. I could do that .

a rabbit, a rabbit.

So I don't know, man, it's it's insane to me that google main product is search, and that's where they've made all of their money traditionally throughout time. And the only scale is a company because more debby is keep coming online that can use search or other search products like adsense or youtube. And there they completely change this product force IT on everyone and its core purpose. It's just messing up like time and time again.

Can I can ask question about this statement? OK, this is taking swift action to fix irs that violate its content policies. So that means like the irs, it's making our violating .

a zone policies is promene dangerous .

things like that because i'm like what content policies are is the onion? It's not it's just that is getting scraped from .

yeah yeah I so many thoughts. I mean, I remember the beginning of the conversation when we had like being going completely nuts somewhere like, well, it's been so like they have a lot to gain. People are onna try IT anywhere.

They're going to keep using IT. Google would never do anything like this because they have so much to lose google search. Is there thing like they're onna take IT extremely slow, probably too slow at the expensive, like trying to be correct all the time.

And now here we are. It's like they clearly felt the pressure. They rush this thing out and it's polluting, just like every other large language model.

And when people ask you for of a and I just like you have been using the labs things, i've had these AI suggestions for a long time. Yeah, i'd never personally seen anything like eat glue or rocks or anything like that. But if you try hard enough, you am sure I can get IT to.

I also ignored, like most of the A I answer that gave me anyway.

I so I google like facts all the time. And often I get the AI suggestion at the top. And IT would either say something kindly, useful, or a few times IT would directly contradict the second thing in search, which was the like, google suggested top answer, you know how something has a post?

Like answer, yeah. I would contradict that. And I would just have to keep screw wing like this.

This whole first hf of the pages, useless. I need to figure out, actually. Answer, you learn.

Arch, yeah. yeah. So IT is wear to see google come so quickly towards this a this rushed thing. I D I think David talking about yesterday .

about how we been saying the same thing that google in the slow approach, most like the apple like new feature approach of, like let's make IT perfect. We're not the first. We're not innovating.

We're just the polished. And google now having all these terrible answers like being makes IT look in like a weaker spot, because before was like, google is the biggest theyve been doing. And forever what they're gonna released is gonna awesome theyve got something brewing.

Now you release something that tells you to eat rocks that cats are on the moon and that glue should your pizza. And you're like, oh my god, is this what you've been bring the whole time? Maybe that they are not as far that as .

we thought there. I mean, I want to know that in google, s defense being is still really bad. You like, very really bad.

I have a big page up right now, and it's one of the worst U. X designs i've ever seen. And IT also is filled in entire page with random ads. And yeah I generated answers um but google has ninety two percent market share, so they have a lot to lose. And being the search company that's founded on being accurate and then just throwing that all out the window and completely moving on to the geri era just seems .

like a bad idea, but pretty good. Yeah yeah OK.

How about we don't pay journalists making money on their articles and also get everything they are write wrong at the same time? What a double exciting .

and articles that is so fast, like a couple of weeks go, we talked about how the A I needs IT a fact check itself. This must be the hardest problem in the industry like it's so obvious that IT needs this, but none of them can do IT. yeah.

So it's whoi is working on this long enough and we'll get to the whole rabbit thing shortly yeah but IT is really funny that they are going IT said. Cats are on the moon. Change that one go you jump in the system and like make sure he doesn't talk about that again. And that's clearly the best fix they have now if you are not using this whole feature and they just have to keep manually doing until the figure had to actually have a factor.

So this seems that I was talking to a soft engineering friend about this this weekend. And it's like they they are such in such a hard place right now because they both can't get rid of this and go back because the entire I O was just about this feature basically. And they're also saying it's their number one play moving forward as a company.

And they also kind of have to scrape this if they have, scrap this if they want to maintain their credibility. So are organizing a statement from them or like IT just didn't seem to me that they had that gi debacle le, where they wouldn't make founding fathers who were like the original skin town and everyone was pissed about that and they put out the statement that was like, this is unacceptable. We cannot do this and then they do like a this thing which is completely destroying their entire product and they're not saying it's unacceptable that it's telling you to .

eat rocks and eglu new theory. I don't know why this mike makes me new year. Google has a crisis team that is helping them do neither of those options. They are not going to a completely scrap IT, but they're going to like key going full till but this entire teams purpose is to try to break as often as possible and manually interject and remove the eye results for the ones that we tell the rox and .

all IT que as you can make that which is why .

they need a crisis team because they can delete the whole feature, as you said, but they have to leave IT there. So crisis team, do your thing like keep on top of this. People will constantly find ways to break IT, and you need to immediately be like, we're sorry, this one didn't work, were always trying to get Better and then go in there and like make sure he doing keep saying we're .

stuff yeah there is something kind of cool. About trillion, billion, billion dollar companies coming out with these products that they swear they've tested so much and so many different levels. And within a week of hitting public market, just the average person absolutely destroying that .

is the pain of every product company. Yes, it's fun. watch. Yeah we have think we've tested to live in and then weak ones, somebody never even thought pass yeah, that's everything. Yeah.

it's pretty ool. Um if you hate this, A I previous like I do I think thing I hate most about them is now when I search I have to wait for that to load like A I previous have just .

introduced back into back in the age .

of like dialup almost but um ma at the verge that a great article of just a bunch of different ways that you can kind of eliminate the A I A preview and IT um including like a website called ten blue links that kind of has a way to change the defauts search engine in your browser. So anything you search in the address bar, it'll just bring up A A google search that won't include that. Um but rolling in the shower note, there's a couple other different ways including some chrome extensions. But if you hate AI previews like I do and i'm sure a lot of people do, there's a budget call ways to just kind .

like semi haki get around IT. But you know how they have the like little tool bars for search for news or videos or whether they now have a web. But so good that when you press IT just shows had links yeah .

yeah back in .

my day add to google .

a question and then look for the answer yeah like I that was a skill I had to have yeah now you need to google .

get an answer have someone tell you what wrong go back and see. Yeah.

this is answer. Yeah, like this is the number one way that I was testing the humane pin and the rabbit A I. And now probably these is by asking the things I already know the answer to because if you don't know the answer, you might not realize how inaccurately answers you're getting.

But the second answer, exit three or four things that you're an expert in and you get weird answers. You like, oh, I need to actually fact check this stuff before. I just trust .

what IT says to me. Yeah, i'd definitely ate a couple .

small rocks and that was not. Yeah and then I found the article. Yeah.

you are noting that this is like probably the hardest thing for google to fix. And I will say that if not, even the internet can desert design when people are being sarcastic, right like this. This is already the bigger problem with social media is you'll say something that you think is obviously sarcastic. Every single human being takes you literally because there is no ark m on the internet. How can we expect an AI to know what sarcastic on the internet.

manually tell them anything from the union is? Like, step one. Like, obviously, if you, if this thing learn to fact check itself, IT would go, yeah, I found article is right here if the unendowed m says, and I would see that my source, and that's what IT says, why I fact check myself and I would believe it's right. So IT needs some additional yeah filtering yeah there .

because reit and the onion are both going to be sarcastic all the time like the that put glue in your pizza came from a redit actually like a redit yeah came directly from radicals. And the funniest thing about IT was that he was a radical IT that had like three votes from six years ago.

That person probably feels like they change the world. They are like way google is, I think I told people. And like a long time.

they made a random five .

years ago .

that .

my what .

joke that I make six years ago, yeah, yeah, was speaking of incorrect .

answers .

that .

was weaker. I get about this one.

Go for IT. Go for IT.

It's hard to me that was a great you know um well .

about the buzzer or the thing, so no pressure.

Okay, I don't know. I don't know whatever speaking of large action, large language models and people taking action on these large language models. And I like IT that's good for the show. Thank you. Is very simple but effective our friend of the show, coffee za ah is has been doing an investigation on the rabbit .

or one and the history .

of those company that .

company does .

he mentioned what are the age?

So, you know.

yeah, well, we we like coffee.

I thought of the show has mean that they had previously been on the show.

He should definitely would be awesome to have him on show. But I feel like a by and the news like was like, i'm not their .

friend yeah yeah so is interesting .

to see coffees will attack le something that we have been tackling at a long creative time because it's always been i've been watching him sounds like twenty twenty ish when he was doing all the cyp do scm stuff what he's still doing obviously but uh, you know that felt like a very separate part of my interests where like, yes, I am a text and cyp du is part of that tech. But IT sound something that I look at like a day to day.

So it's fun to like exist in this world where you're watching videos about things that are a jacket to what you're into um but also him just go super harden to them. So then him tackling something that we have been tackling and like put a clip from our review in the video and stuff is very cool. So you want to summarize everything let's been going .

on with I I think if you don't know who coffees there is, like David mention, as he Normally does, crypto O N F T scams. And unlike David said, I love watching those videos, but don't know anything about .

IT seeing something that we know little he explains them and exposed yes so doing the yes he's investigated sharing his finding that will be the best last coffee .

zero up so ever was that he's actually been scare people at the entire time and so um but yeah like he looks over so like you don't need to know about crapo he explains IT to you and then how they came but to have a little more uh knowledge about rabin our one we've covered IT a lot and we have one seeing him do is really cool um it's if you don't know him, know if somebody y's doing a video or you're the subject of a coffee is a video, it's not a good thing.

No no. And this was I think after we did the r one stuff there was a couple tweet about how Jessie was part of an N F T project beforehand but not a lot came out of IT. So we never reported on IT because he was like a couple tweet.

Seems like coffee went in a lot deeper and did report on that. Now um we don't want to go to too deep into everything but will talk a little bit about both videos um but you should definitely go both of these. The first one is mostly about an N F T project that Jessie was a part of called gamma.

And the company that owned gamma got changed into rabbit. So there is a connection here between non delivering N F. T.

Price. I also wants to know that on a previous episode a long time ago, I had mentioned that uh, rabbit had only been created like eight months prior. And a lot of people in the common section, we're like that you're wrong. It's actually been around since twenty twenty. But what actually happened was gamma .

was around since metics whatever yeah yeah ah .

they just .

change to .

the name of the corporation to rabbit ink eight months prior to.

according the episode, the cyber manufacturer yeah .

so like IT wasn't IT is a completely different product. So just because you just because you change the name of the company, you you're saying that it's the same company like a different company, but whatever is the same company under the law, but completely different company functionally .

yeah um so yeah first first video was about the N F T projects that in some where crypto coin that happened so they never technical, made a cyp to coin but they .

wanted to make a uh what was IT like Green was .

a yeah sounds .

cry yeah so I just I. I, i've been to know i've been ignoring N. F.

T. Projects with my whole heart for so long. Yeah, so I did.

I people tweet at me, oh, did you know that Jesse, the cofounder of rabbit, is was also doing this M. T. project? honestly? No, I didn't know.

I didn't care what you, a lot of people N F T process. But then I wash the coffee video of the N F T project that they built on. And i'm watching. And I like, how did anyone think any of this was a .

good idea that's a ite about every project .

you and was actually not the crazier I ve never heard of.

Yeah, there's there's a spectrum of how ridiculously sound and IT starts with you sound dumb and IT gets even domer from there. And some of these were like further than Normal dumb sounding yeah so I yeah I D totally.

I think I can answer question because no one cares what the N F. T project does. They care about how much money they can potentially make off .

of set of people that the and .

I think when he says on clubhouse things along the lines of like um we really believe in this, if you don't believe in us all, buy back you're whatever like you made all these interesting statements that .

felt very much like they were going to go through very supposed to to make IT sound for yeah yeah and then .

how do we did um and then the second the second epsom for everyone that watches us and is more interested in rabbit was way more .

about the rabbit are and .

more or if there is in the ground, would you might know a little .

bit more about a vegan? Um i'm not one of these people that had like a gone into the rabbit and like checked out what they were using uh in the video, he describes the fact that they are using this application called play rides in the cloud in the vm, which is basically manually going around the website and clicking on areas so the way that they described the large action model in the first place was that I just semantic ally understands what button or what buttons so that he and he doesn't matter if they change their U X.

Design because they semantic ally understands that the play button, if he has moved five pixels to the left, is still there. Uh but what people are now saying is that they're basically just using this player application in which is like a scripting application where you manually tell the program this is where the play button is. Click this button .

is an enterprise program that's used .

yeah or it's like auto hockey that kind of stuff. But for like websites.

they're not hiding that they're using play, right? But I guess the question more anymore, but the question is where along the line is the large action model talking to the talking to the play ray and the auto clicking? Because like a perfect example of what you just said, how IT now working is didn't door dash .

break already? Because some uber brea uber introduced like a capture and I just stopped working because I couldn't .

figure out how to do the number. And I think dora h moves something.

So when you ask you to order rabbit is understand yeah yeah which means it's not working.

The one of the four things that I actually yeah .

sort of can do, so rabbit says that, yes, they use play, right, but they use IT in tandem with lam. And look, this this all just starts to feel more and more sketchy because near on the day that the r one actually came out, there is a big league where people are saying the lam doesn't exist at all and then just he made a statement saying, well, the reason that you didn't find IT is because the lab is in a separate server somewhere else and .

SHE is accessing that server. SHE goes to school .

yeah yeah. And it's just like, I don't know, the problem is they won't just come out and show and like say and show everything. They just say a lot of things like IT totally, but they won't show anything.

And when pushed on this, their response was basically we don't really want to to tell you how that works because unless you're an AI engineer, you're not going to understand that and it's not going to be a value to you. Yeah bad response. It's like if you have nothing to hide, then don't hide IT just put IT out there.

I also wouldn't have to understand how IT worked if IT worked.

Yeah, no. yeah. Valid exactly.

And so I don't know. I I also think that a the product itself was sold on all of these false promises. In the video that he did, he basically did the commercial versus reality thing where he asked IT every query that they asked in that really hype civil video, where they were blurry out with the robot, actually looked like during six years there was like order neuber.

Oh, and also tell my friends i'm gonna be late. That was delicious. What can I have for desert with IT? And he, like, tried every query. IT was so funny because when he was like, till my friends are going to be late, the rabbit was basically like.

do IT yourself you one of them was like, we suggest you.

I suggest you manually text friends that I was like, okay, cool. So what IT .

seems the worlds .

greatest assistant.

What IT seems like is that seems like the revd is just a ChatGPT box that is using a scripting tool to manually .

interactive websites. I didn't we determine it's .

it's a perplexity, but it's IT. They added perplexity like a rape before they dropped IT. But very funny thing. There is also a line in the code that says, do not say.

do not disclose that .

I A created OpenAI like the explicit blocked down its ability to say, i'm a check GPT box, which I find very funny. Also one other funny, if you're playing spotify on IT and you say play anything, they also manually rode IT in so that he always plays the beatles, which is a choice. Well, I think they did that because if you said play anything, I don't think that spotify has a function to just play anything. I think if you .

ask spotify to play anything, I could if you literally just said play anything like something something all sort library IT might be like safe and like pick a top can pick something truly horrible.

My, my, there is different. You would find something with the word, and .

you, I ay. IT could be any be literally any. I love the .

red of button on wikipedia.

And do you think that's curated or truly random?

It's what are their .

guidelines .

like people can just I guess I don't know, I get what you're saying. There are some messed up beauty videos, there are by some messed up .

audio or just like, yeah that's like .

saying people .

will associate like negatively with rabbit if you say rabbit play anything and at a place you like a speech for some like old political but I do like a rb.

I think there's just not a function to do that right? Because like spotify itself doesn't have a random spotty.

but in a large action model, not far out what IT .

just means I mean something randomly the potentially is no.

yeah. I think this .

was the solution to being safe about IT where someone says play anything. That person is probably just testing IT and let's just give them a beat song, something safe like there's a huge catoche things we could play for them and we'll try IT once. We're twice and it'll be nice and i'll give a beat song and move on with their life.

And if we that's like the safe way of doing that. And if you truly had a function that could play anything and you just trusted IT to literally play anything that could go wrong in a lot of ways. Bem, so I think there like be safe.

So my question is like the idea of a large action, mental actually does make sense. And I think this is you could build. So my question now is like, did they just launch this because they wanted to like build on the hype and get all the funding from the really hype moment of that everyone talking about A I and they were RAID, they couldn't get finding later and they just figured that just hard put this stuff until we figure this out.

I think, is that what they're doing? I think if you ask me, you know, i've I I also had like a bit of hope for this idea, like the largest language model seem to make more sense than other versions that i've been seeing. But I think it's this company felt the pressure of investors and the pressure of the timing and the pressure of all these things to just release something before I O, before wwdc, before whatever, and they got something out.

But as we set, our review is just nowhere near what they were promising, and they had enough hope that they could save the right things long enough to get them some time to get to make IT do more stuff. And so they could show progress and they could show a sectory. If we keep going at this rate, we have they had the ability to say the right thing, right for a long enough time.

I I think a perfect example of like, again, we've talked about how bad the private itself. But like coffee did the thing where he kind of did like commercial versus reality before we got the human pin or the rabid our one, we were like a banger. Video is going to be like our old assistant battle of like rabbit and humane versus google assistant.

We had both of the men and I was like marketers doing a content. We were like, all like talking about content coming up and like, oh, we're doing that video market is like why neither of them do anything like IT would just be so boring to just watch them do nothing. It's not even a competition. We just never made the video and worth .

imagine that they're just going to buy time to actually build the product. They are they are a company, right, like they they are a legit company that sells hardware and they have one hundred thousand users, whatever how many they actually sold. And they can't. They're not just like an N F T project where they can just rug pull you and disappear into the either and nobody knows any Better and you are using a suit in the whole time like his profile is .

out there like he's a very public CEO or name is attach to IT they build .

people would be way risky to never plan to actually build the thing you promise at all. And I imagine that they're just trying to buy time to actually build that.

He did a with game already though, with his name yeah, like I I would argive. The opposite of that is just because he had an N F T project doesn't mean he can build something cool. But the fact that he had a project that he promised and never delivered on, and now has a new project that doesn't meet the promises on, I have a hard time believing, deliver on this product, because within the last three years he are improved. He is willing to not .

deliver the product. Going to get hello food for lunch, and my lunch is gonna so much more intention with a lamb than anything rabbit is ever going.

How are you towards the microphone like eight times? Worst one is, what do you call .

IT when you asked the rabbit something and IT doesn't respond to you at all, which happens sometimes. It's the silence .

of the lam. Oh my .

g OK oh my god.

was a great youtube. Um my ology .

for for the rabbit is they have shown us all A C G I video of a humanoid robot walk around doing bunch of stuff yeah but then they accidently promised they the ship IT tomorrow. So what they shipped was a human in a robot suit, the text robot, human, denser, where I can't really do any of the things. yeah.

Well, actually what IT really is is a marry in IT. It's like one person trying to control everyone's, and I really can do everything. So IT fails most of the time. Yeah and if you ever pulled back the curtain, you just see that it's like not what you were promised.

yeah. So yeah.

could we argue? So like they release something that had about four functions, right? IT like the four connections that can.

but only like that. And they said more .

coming yet since released, two of those are now broken, right? So if literally has less than what happened.

what at first IT, can I still go to hold a start?

Yes, it's around. So work.

Yeah.

I just I wondering if there are .

any new applications in there. I double, what is uber? Oh, in uber. So yeah, he could do four things.

And now I can do two things.

Yeah nice. My my favorite thing about .

all of .

this was just before the videos came out coffee tweet a picture of like A A police officer interrogating someone that just says is the last projection model in the room with us right now um he also though Jessie did reply to all of this and said that he believes coffee is biased and that he didn't include all the stuff that they exchange in emails and then coffee did a video on a second channel literally reading every single email.

So if you want to see what all the emails are, you can go here. It's forty five minutes and it's along one side downed. Most people will watch IT, but I did watch the whole thing. And IT seems like key report that everything that they told them and made the corrections that he needed to make.

So yeah, I don't know. The interesting thing about this is that Jessie like persona around all of this, like when he came to our our studio and talk to us about this, he was saying how like, oh no, you know, like ninety nine percent of starts fail. There's a very high chance that will fail. And that, at the time, almost made him seem like more down to earth. When you compare itself to leg humane, who was just like, we are the future of technology, you will all use our new product. A however, now kind of looking back on IT, it's like considering he's such a serial startup like C E O guy and he just like makes a ton of money off of investors and people who are just like buying into this product, being OK with the fact that your company fails as much as possible and just moving under the next thing and keeping like making money off investors is pretty lame.

I think that felt like the that reminded me of like the u on space come and a long time ago, like space special Price never really work, but like we are going to create all these things that someone done the line and IT makes well, like be able to use and then we're helping that for because we really believe in the IT feels more like, I like, look at me, mr. Done to earth. Yeah.

he said that and it's .

actually really good marketing.

He said that about tesla because for a long period of time, people are like, why are you like investing in all of this technology that other people can just come in in news and any of all these, like all these competitors that i'll make tesler like less relevant. He is just said metal times like, well, if IT moves us towards a more Green earth than that's like really the goal of tesla. Like, I don't really care about the company, but I he cares about the company.

you know you know about company.

We're in a dark place if we're like, you know who has some really ethical business? Pho sophy is compared with this yeah .

so I don't know and we'll see if they run on the money because I don't think anyone is buying anymore. These rabbits from here on out there has been so much negative press about IT. Yeah, they probably sold their last r one at this point.

everyone should go watch, everyone should go watch the videos and come up with own watch.

watch our reviews, watch what people have said, who only thing.

see how about live as well.

yeah. And also watch trivia.

Good.

after the .

break, miles is going to join us to talk about porsha, which I hilarious ly miroir as porch in my notes porcher. And some of you may know, portion actually has a design studio that makes consumer products very expect so expensive that maybe consumers the wrong. But when we come back for answers, i'm going to show sure, i'm going to short share you. I'm going going to show you four portion design studio products and you have to tell me which one is fake. That's .

interesting. I recently looked through the entire portion design catalogue shoot .

change the question lately.

but it's such a big because going to misremember something probably it's like hundreds and hundreds of things.

okay.

So they sent us a lot of things as well to the point where I had to be like.

know, you're think of, well, okay, we think the porch a design like collapse, like a Willy design mate.

the study the same study is that way you're .

for in you because portia also has a store of like a porsha handbag a so i'm not sure .

that's the same designs. You you're not, but I am in I I don't have any phones on my list. I figured that was too easy OK.

But I am referring to the design to do that collab. yeah. So like an example that's not in the list that I can confirm this real porsche design co. And the famous german piano maker bozen orfer have made several just gorgeous .

like a million hours. I don't know that that so expensive.

it's the kind of thing that that you're not buy and must hear .

really about that .

life but what to get to that.

So yeah so .

start thinking and will be back up the break.

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walk back. We are joined by miles and David still hear with us. And we're talking in cars again. We have some, some car announcements this week actually. And we mainly just want to talk about one of them.

Yeah, sometimes ized summarize the announcement and we can talk about thoughts about so portion announced the newest generation of the nine eleven, the iconic sports car. A portion nine eleven gets updated every couple of years. There is a huge lineup, but they gave us two of the the base cars, cara and the current gts.

And it's a hybrid for the first time now. This car has not been a hybrid in its entirety existence. The nine eleven has always been internal combustion, whether it's turbo charged or not.

But this first hybrid version people were very curious about because porch a always makes the tiny st. Refinement changes to nine eleven. And this hybrid thing has a reputation for making cars heavier and maybe a little blood over technical.

And so we are curious how portion is going to do IT. So they gave us these two base cars. They have one more total horse power than before. They seem to have, uh, pretty solid solution, small to kill at our battery. Uh, two electric motors.

I believe one of them is working with the single smaller turbo instead of having twin turbo IT seems like a pretty good solution, only adds fifty kilograms of the cars. And they also changed some design elements to the front, to the back, to the interior, and that's the new cars. We don't know what the rest of the nine, eleven lineup like the turbo or turbo s will look like that later announcements down the road.

But and and else, we don't expect a fully electric nine eleven any time soon. That might not be another two generations, but we have the first hybrid sports cars from porsha. Now our feelings on them, I all start with my thoughts.

I never thought I would become that guy because i've i've watched so many portion videos like this is what happened when I when I went into like deciding I want to buy his car and not as I watched every video that's ever been made about the nine eleven. And there is this section of youtube where it's it's like priests who only like the older generation, nine eleven, and they like the new one. That thing sucks.

The old ones, that's where it's that. And like cheese, I like the new one. It's tech kinda. I feel like i'm into the new one and i'll probably always be that guy. And then they announced this new one.

And I think the hybrid drive trains actually probably the best part of IT, but the interior that changed a couple things that I specifically dislike, that I don't have any good reason to dislike other than the current one is Better. So the first thing is every nine, eleven for many, many years has had a twist, like not an actual key to twice to start, but they've had the ignition on the left side of during will. And this is the first one that they're making, just still like a plastic push button start, just like a ma or kanan.

And I just I don't like that at all. The other is the teachers ter is just an all digital display now, which is that most cars these days that's beyond st like they just have screens. But the current generation nine nine two actually has a real like physical needle. And IT has screens to the left and right, but has a real needle tech computer. And I looked something about that like, I just like a watch, like, i've never had these feelings about any device before and now I see like a fully digital one like h that's not the same like, yeah, I have never and on the due who's learn an apple watch like, I don't want like role lex seems like the oMegan ever to me if so, i'm like, I didn't think I would become this guy, but I really feel this way. Yes, miles, how do you feel about .

the nine eleven? My feelings are exactly the same. The fact that is a hybrid system which you know makes IT faster, but it's now have big year and more expensive. That's not like what my problem is with this car, which is what some people are saying as an issue that just prefer to just be pure eyes. It's just the fact that they're, like you said, changing things that we have known and associated with porch a just to say, hey, this is new and different.

It's funny because I was filming the news kayan just last weekend and I was talking about to push start but unlike it's A K N O K final deal with IT, but the nine elevens right they're going to leave that a, they're not a, there's no way they're going to change the ignition switch, right? So with the older portions, like you said, you used to be able to take your key, put IT on the left and then crank to start the the end. And then with nine, nine, two, they changed IT your car where it's like a nob a nob where he would be so it's like, yeah and that actually makes a bit more sense with a modern car. And it's still the same thing. You get the same effect.

There's a nice hybrid between a push button thing and I can old school key, I don't have to have a key, but I still get the satisfying like physical motion, right? So apparently .

this is what one according the porridge IT. So it's so funny. I happen to have a portion customer sitting right here next to me.

So no, that's Andrew in the last episode .

yeah so doctor Brown, I you yeah do .

you .

actually want a push to start button?

So in a car guard as an engine, I get IT. But no. And the thing I think there I think when they say this is what portrait customers want, I think what mathematically they're saying is, well, lots of people bought kains.

So seems like people are okay with IT. And mathematically, they're probably right and people will still buy IT and use IT and it'll be fine, but I couldn't possibly argue in any way that it's Better other than maybe being simple physically to manufacturers, but it's poor. Sure we're talking about when is that my concern? yeah.

IT wasn't a concern until now. This is the first time where i've seen portion announce a new car and me just be like. This is just not good for a nonsensical reason like all these other companies .

are making .

the engine smaller and doing all these things to comply with like emissions laws and things like that. That's totally understandable. But this is just one of those things where it's like they're changing IT for essentially no reason.

And I don't think there's anyone on earth is like, yes, this is the Better version. So let me ask you again, apparently portion customers requested that the gage cluster be fully digital, really ah requested I that's why they do that. They say this is what portie customers wanted. They wanted their gage cluster to .

be fully digit can also say things .

they can also tell.

They can also just say that people said .

that I will say I i've watched a lot of videos on the last couple of generations to nine eleven, and I didn't hear anyone asked for that. What I did hear about the nine nine two is the pages were a little bit too wide, and so they were kind of hidden by the sterling wheel. Almost every car reviewer like mention that at some point I don't think I translated that to make this all digital. I just heard that is like, I have to figure out anything wrong with this car. And that seems like that one thing that everyone finds wrong with that.

But the thing is that was the side menu that wasn't weren't talking about the attack in the middle, the element that was still analog in. They said that.

that digital out yeah doesn't translate for me.

Do you think that's more expensive or cheaper to do? And completely, the digital Green verses in analog A.

I think it's cheaper because it's one screen. So before we had the the analog tack in the middle, which i'm sure they make a ton of and is not super hard to manufactured, but then they had one screen on the left and one screen on the right. And now you just have one big screen.

And I think we also decide an article, something about how they're to have like deeper integration with car play. I haven't seen what that actually looks like yet. I'm sure i'll just be you can have the map in front of you instead of just on the screen to the side.

cool. great. I just I think it's just a little cheaper to make one screen instead of two, but that's another thing.

right? When they announced the the whole next one car play thing and the enounce, that portion was going to be the first people are working with. Its like I feel like I don't know anyone who owns porches who wants their U I to look like an apple .

car maybe kind I mean, I think yeah, I don't know anyone else who wants that either. I think there's a lot of people who just wanted told work like their phone and that's good enough and car plays that for most people. Um but there is also a specific subset of porter buyers because let's be on is like most people buying a poor show or buying a kyn A A A con and is just the one that they wanted and it's a casual commuter, whatever.

But there's a subset of those people who are like periods who really, really care about you know the driving dynamics and the weight of the car and the way and handles and all sorts of smaller things are more traditional. And those people didn't ask for that at all. They never I don't think I heard anyone mass for that. So IT seems like they're listening to group number one over group number two, but is the nine eleven feels like there's less of group number one buying the nine eleven?

It's kind of way that is true.

I have a question. Yeah so the porch nine eleven is fast, right? That's like why people like IT, you mentioned that because now is that, that is hybrid, is heavy. Does that affect how facility is .

IT now slower as well. So the so here, but here's the fun part of the driving dynamics. I think IT will drive Better.

And i'm going to speculate even a little bit on like the turbo on the turbo s later, but they've already shown like the nurse gring lap time of the gts. And it's like justice faster. IT has more horsepower, then the the outgoing turbo, then the none's turbo and the turbo.

So IT is a more powerful car, but the thing about turbos is they take time to spell up and actually accelerate faster. There's just a an inherent lag and you can you can deal with IT with your gear box by always being close to on boost, and that's they've been really good at that. But it's not lag free when you drive a tie and or electric car.

That instant talk is totally different from the feeling of a turbo charge engine. And I think this hybrid system is gone to give like we talked about in our hybrid video, it's going to give people that instant acceleration feeling when they hit the peddle. IT won't be full on all of your power, but it'll feel more responsive.

And then of course, when you combine the power of the engine and electric motors, you will have more total power and accelerate faster. So they'll feel like a more responsive car. And I think that's good for most people.

I think they'll enjoy IT. Um they managed to kind of minimize weight gain. Fifty kilograms isn't nothing, but it's it's a tiny battery so it's not a disaster.

These aren't the feather weights of the car world. So I feel like you will drive Better. But yes, just little into your things. So you are .

portiers demographic, right? You are the person who they are targeting with their sports, right? Yeah.

I think mark is like forty five years Younger than the person.

They're well, not take people his age don't usually have a quarter million to spend, but if they could .

pick their ideal, they would want everyone who's buying other. If the people who are buying and mcleans and other things, they would want them to buy that too, and then be a repeat customer for however long they are alive.

So my question is, what does porsha have to do with the yet to be revealed terribles to make you feel like you would want to .

upgrade by IT? Wow, it's all about the drive IT would have to IT would have to drive that much Better that IT overcomes the things that I dislike about the interior. Again, there are other things that are fine about IT.

Most of the interiors are going to be the same. I don't have as much of a problem with the face lift to some other people do. There's these new like active arrow flaps in the girls at the front and they replace the dedicated blinker is with, like, just the headlights blink.

So it's a simple face. Some people hate IT. I think it's fine. Is mostly a similar car. R, S, I recognizable.

I just want to know how much faster and how much Better adrift. That's really most of what I want to hear about with the turbo s one. IT comes out and i'll be like you here before we hear about IT.

But I want to hear battery size. I want to hear total power. I want to hear like responsiveness zero to sixty times. I want to hear that that type of stuff with that car.

I think from now until this car comes out, we should all get familiar with how driving a portion and eleven fields .

by .

taking turns yeah .

certain person I do I do my best to describe IT, but like I don't know if if you watch videos of turbo charge cars driving, use its you slam on the accelerator pedal and an E, V, and you just yet, you just go. If you slam on the accelerator pedal in a naturally aspirated engine, car IT can feel pretty close to that level of responsiveness. If you slam on the accelerator in a turbo charge car, twin turbo car IT will start to accelerate.

And then as you climate rebs and build Bruce pressure, you surge forward in like a crazy way. Who was in the speech? Was IT just you you're in the speech?

No, we were talking about the lack of turbo lag because we had both also done the p one together. The p one so had like a really good reference point of like the p one is like fast off the line and then the turbo kicks in, but the the speed tail was just.

So these are both hybrids.

ones on hysan tty, stupid.

But are turbo church hybrids that we are driving. And this also a turbo church hybrid that about but if you drive a non hybrid turbo church car, uh, there are a couple that are nicknamed the windmaker because you could be driving around the track and you could you could hit what you think is the right point to accelerate, and then you get this boost that gets gives you way too much power. Kick the tail out like I don't want to say it's unpredictable, but the way the power comes on with a turbo is way more of a surge than what an E V will give you this .

retail that you want at least both give you a really solid warning because right before you .

get cake to goes yeah you that the intakes you crazy yeah that is a feeling nobody is that exactly what IT is a symptom of, of a bunch of different things happening at once that make you go the picture of .

the drive train they published with all the press photos before. Yeah, it's a very silly looking photos going to break IT up right now.

Yeah, they did. They did a whole like unveiling live stream video on youtube that we watched. And he was very german.

IT was like one person going, I heard, made IT a hybrid. Tell us about that. And then like some trans music as they do, like a transition to a different part of the same room.

And he goes, IT is a hybrid. And then he starts explaining IT, it's great. I was hoping they would do like an apple transition, where they like, do a drone shot till like a different part of the same room. They don't do. IT, though.

was great. You rought up the word a White maker. And that brings me to like one of my final points with the nine, nine, two, two. There's in one car that everyone is kind of just like forgot about.

which one is that? G T two R S.

G T two R S. So the term widom ker like the G T two R S, that was the original widow maker. Like back in the day, I was just a wheel drive, real drive turbo, like five hundred something horse power, but like no nannes, right?

So it's just like if you scare up, you scare up no one, no nAnnies, no nAnnies like mary poppins. No and yeah no handholding. I get just like, no, like a lot of people these days think they're good drivers. That's just because there's all these like attraction controls, amazing. There's all these traction control systems .

allow you to feel confident .

doing kind of like stuff you maybe shouting be doing on the public road. but. This is a car. Words like you just have to be good. And so I think this is gonna like in a underwire power, all the power to the rear hybrid.

You think G T be hybrid? Yes, because they're na .

need something crazy. Because what's coming out the summer is the corvet Z R one, right, which is gonna be like kind of the similar philosophy.

What is the comp in portions lineup of the zero one? Is that there G T two R S, or there G T .

three 2s some would say， I think most people would say G T three rs but then or corvet's also going to have zora, which is going to be like these. They like their sees. Okay, it's going to be in even more extreme versions, Z R one. So.

okay, so force .

induction, zo six motor plus hybrid cheeses.

yeah, it's going to be scary. So in order to compete, this also the other thing is i'm sure poor should feel some level of competition from other cars coming out in their Price brackets. And so yeah, you're onna try to be competitive speed wise.

IT feels like you have to electrify your line up at some point. The peers at the very pious end of IT are like, no, no electricity, no hybrid system. We needed to be naturally aspirated at a but I think the hybrid is a good move for these cars. It's just a matter of like keeping IT nine eleven.

yeah. I think if we've learned anything this week, it's that or last week, it's that these could be pretty good. Well.

pretty good. I think by the time this pot comes out, that video is out there. And do you want to talk about your experience with that car? Is IT the bed? okay.

So miles and I both test drive a lot of the cars at ecs review on autofocus. And so as a result, we've both driven a lot of different cars and shared notes on them. And this last car that we reviewed, which is called the lucid air saffire, I think is the best driving electric car ever made and maybe the best driving sedan ever made.

it's amazing take.

And that's a hot take because when I say best driving EV ever made, I am including all evs. I'm including the remain nava. I'm including the tie can turbo.

I'm including all evs have ever driven. And the lucid airslie, I think, tops that list. It's incredible at disguising its incredible weight.

It's really good. And then on top of that, that driving sudan ever I don't I haven't driven as many sudans, i'll honest. There's a lot of gas as stands.

I've never driven. But damn, they would be really impressive if another gas then could match eleven hundred daily horse power. And like the level attraction, control and handling and suspension that that car has, I thought I was one of the best cars ever.

So the story with that car is Lucy did too long term rentals of what most like enthusiast would consider to be the best driving today has ever made prior to the safer. And that was the B M W M five C S and the catalog C T five v black wing, both of which i've driven. And you know, I am definitely like a nice guy.

I think the safer like classes bloody it's it's honestly no contest. I mean, if you like noises, then I mean, yes, obviously there's no replacement for that. But you could just kind of think of like the noises you make when you're .

accelerating the kind of like you holding a breath .

yeah because it's it's honestly incredible and it's not necessarily the fact that it's so frequent fast because if you want to go just a midget faster, you could spend like two point five million extra dollars and get an a vera. But it's the fact that you've got a drunk, a trunk, a super spacious back .

c suspend over .

four hundred miles of range, honestly, like a usable, actually daily drivable car. So like the new I can turbo G T Y soc, that could be a Better driving car. I guess we're going to find out.

Like months, yes.

but but .

no back.

no back seat. It's like that's not a tiken zy anymore. You know, it's honestly kind of a silly car, to be honest, that you can really recommend to a Normal person. Where is this? Like if you're rich, you can recommend to a Normal.

How much?

Two fifty? The sue. yeah.

But I mean, but for the great, but but for the best driving car ever made.

And I mean, you're gona at a stop, let you will never be nothing like .

your smoking is smoking every porch, every, every what I can say, like a tesla plaid just gets just walked by this like everything in a straight line.

What did you? I haven't ta drive, I tn to drive, but i've with my and lazy is that you can do all that. And the last time miles pick me up in IT, we had IT was we fit so many musical instruments in there like it's actually so we had a xylophone, we had two sexy phones, we had flute.

we had all of our backpacks and .

IT was there was still plenty of room front.

I will say I also think that looks very, very nice, really. Yeah, I really like the way that car looks.

Yeah, that is kind of interesting to me. It's got a good look in that spec. I've seen some ugly is and .

and IT looks good.

I'm not .

which yeah.

I think .

the two time losses are not really my thing. This one is like this. This is the stealth est most really aggressive, beautiful color. It's got carbon .

boiler and .

no y carbon.

The thing is that surprise me is just how many looks a get from just like now on car. People like there's a there's a school right by where I live and so I was getting home right as the school was letting out and all these little kids were just like people to lose IT up, just like like I did not realize that to have that kind of presence.

Yes.

but I they all .

do now now looks like IT probably does not not look like a cat like or anything, but IT looks like a fancy car that being healthy and I look .

at fancy s .

that I don't really know anything about cars.

It's a big car. Yeah yeah I can .

see that just more like the like you know casually and the finances. Here's my hot .

take for the episodes. Know people like my car takes on the pot. The saffire has Better suspension than than nine eleven, Better daily able suspension in nine eleven. That IT is more compliant. And I I wish I could control more like PaaS on.

Let me switch between the most sporty and like a little softer but I when I was driving to lose that, I was like, I can put this car away five thousand pounds like it's got this firm and confident but very compliant suspension that was amazing on new jersey rose of pot holes and like expansion joints in all kinds of weird stuff. I was like that. This is a great suspension.

I I don't think that's a hot take. I think now elevens have always just used more simplistic, sporty driving focus suspension systems. Where is like the losers is a bit more complex but still very good for not being air suspension like it's using steel springs, which is great, pretty wide to me. And like I feel like you put someone like johna in the car who drives like a plant or model list with their suspension. He probably won't know honestly.

Yeah, how is lisa doing as a company? That bad? Well, here's a thing. I think what's so great about this car is they have clearly spent a lot of engineering time and money to make this car incredibly efficient and really, really good.

And Lucy does not make money as a company, right? But they're also backed buy a basically infinite wallet of the saudi investment fund. And so what kind of doesn't feel like IT matters yet? I don't know that they have any sort of pressure or taking time bomb behind that, but it's like they just keep losing money and keep making very highly engineered cars. And I guess that's fine for now.

I I think so I mean, I whether you're going to be around forever is like because is the same question I have every six months with mclean, which is also literally one hundred percent back by the you know by the like some like saudi like financial group. Oh I want them to stick around but at the same time I think about like how cheap as a fire would be if this company no longer yeah market support.

if that some sort of pressure to sell cars more than I wouldn't be two hundred and fifty grand.

but I don't think might take, is that I don't think if you are a car journalist, if there are any car journalists watching this, you should not be allowed to this car, and you should not oil this car. Firstly, IT is incredibly easy to put yourself, and I go to jail situation there. Don't ask me how I know that. secondly. Secondly, I feel like I just establishes like a president of like what speed in capabilities in a car supposed to be that is just beyond what is .

everyone here beyond .

the norm for a lake. Even super cars were not just lake. I feel like I would to drive this car for a month straight and nothing else. The second I into literally anything else, i'm just going to be like.

yeah, I talked about that was flat like and flat was notice faces. But I feel like that ruined a lot of cars for me. I thought you about the ansel.

We have the N S. X types here for a couple weeks in a week or two. And that's a fast car that gets a really incredible car. And I remember getting into IT after like a year of winning the and thinking, man, this car is really nice. It's too bad that really lack top end. Like it's not that fast and then I watched I read some other reviews of IT and they're like, this is a ballistic fast car, been incredible. Like, this is the best performing and s sex ever and I was like, oh, i've i've been ruined your expectations and .

that's different for me. Like I haven't driven the plant alive, driven like yours, like around back, like ones i've been in brand into a bunch of times. IT doesn't it's incredibly fast, but IT doesn't drive like a lot of my favourite sports cars drive.

And so that's what I feel like is the differentiator, the fact that IT yeah such a good driving car overall. The steering is incredible. A handling is incredible, like it's incredibly like capable.

There is a video on youtube of somebody doing at taking a test drive and he's driving around a saf hire mode and he has a lucid representative and like the front seat and he's like, he gives you I think it's miles per or maybe he did this video.

He gives you a few like obviously like polls and he's like this cars insane and then they get to like a stop light and the guy they get, they get to the front of the red light and the guys like you're taking this left right here start turning left floor at mid d turn. And it's like, okay and and he does. And the car just carves out of the turn like as if he stuck to the on rails or something.

It's crazy. So the traction control is unbelieved in that car. And yeah, I drives like a dream. It's great.

I say one thing about the loser, yeah, I want him to take all of these things that you love, take out like two thirds of the speed, and then make my back competitor with the platform because I love being inside that things so much. And if they made like an ultra county, like you don't need to go fast, the suspension in the really .

great version of IT. Yeah but that's just .

like g areas are in that.

you know but .

I mean like super light.

I want like only four seats get rid of that middle back seat. I I want, what would all my back come with the champagne .

funding the fridge? When I first tested the loser before they started shipping any ears, I SAT in an executive option back. See, that's exactly you're describing. But I don't think they're ver ship that or maybe it's like super late and they might ship IT late.

The total to century .

i've loved i've been loving these like MBA analogies or people are like one bee is the Michael Jordan of ball balls?

Yes, yes.

You think about IT though think about IT when b is a Michael Jordan a ball balls and I think the lusted air that .

such tim down can disrespect. But okay.

continue losted just the lucid air safire is of the rimac in navara of model list pledge, or is the I can, or is the nine eleven of. Something like that all i'll work on that one.

but it's the lucid air is.

The summer.

Is the yes of yes.

there is is here to hear first. We don't have anything Better to say about this car other than IT doesn't Brown is a common Brown? I think that's yeah it's set to suffer liberally, only coming suffer.

But I think that's IT. That's really all I want to talk about. The new poor share, the hybrid and recent court experience is go subscribe the autofocus channel if you haven't already, we all over the map, all kinds of fun cars over there. And if you want more thoughts on auto, that's where we focus on IT.

And with the power of editing, I will now be replaced with Andrew mangali.

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how about one of us goes less than one? One of us goes over one. Okay, would you want one point? Two, i'll go under.

So one point two yeah and would you say no close number under that?

You say over and I say under.

i'm over. He's under, right. So IT.

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saying his lesson on gigg you started wow, disgusting. The answer is around five hundred.

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All right question too. OK hortie design studio makes some really beautiful stuff, and also some really weird stuff. And so i've collected three of the weird things I could find and one thing that I made up, and i'm going to show them to you. And then you must tell me which one is fake.

This is great figure. How you created one of these, tim.

or an a, hey, man, I don't tell you to do you. Never want the porsche kitchen. This multa modern kitchen polls from familiar porsha materials like aluminum for its frame and new materials for its services, like frosted glass countertops and a raw .

wood pile that really looks .

like A L the most sterile itchen your character. Oh.

number two is the portrait. Impact driver portion worked with the local art tool manufacturer to developing impact driver with comfort in mind. The vertical aluminum handle here with a carbon fiber back yield and incredibly baLanced impact driver.

It's .

funny.

Number three, the porch, a hospital bed, the porch design hospital bed is a more modern addition to their design popoi, emphasizing chrome fittings and clear lines. The high ratio between the headboard and football is a nod to the profile of their classic design and number.

You know how they charge you like eight thousand dollars and night to stay in.

This is like this. Add number four, oh my go. This is the four shut smoking pipe.

IT might look like a Normal pipe until you realize, until you realized that the bow has a heat sick. That's right. Those are radiated fin. There's no liquid, but the finds do supposedly keep the bull at a lower temperature, leading for a more pleasurable smoke.

This, what in the world?

This is tough.

I feel like .

google code competitions.

they can be google, could be A, B, was .

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impact.

impact.

I don't, no, man, the hospital of us breaking. So funny. This, this is brutal. Okay, what guys have I want .

with the kitchen? You think the kitchen is fate?

correct?

The kitchen is real. That is a real image. And the impact driver is real .

in .

an impact where .

I used, I think I wrote impact driver.

but it's actually .

a hammer and drill .

that changes how .

that picture. So I also .

put the kitchen kitch.

Do you not, I believe, drill you .

put on your impact.

But now I am. I thought any .

impact driver was a traditional drill that has hammer motor bill. No.

but I don't think you would Normally drill holes with that because of the fact that .

is not doing IT.

You drill holes and really hearts. I mean, I know you can put .

again and contract .

or and .

I I have you .

using impact driver .

for many times for dring holes, most of time for fans work. But recently, many people say not to use an impact driver for driving holes.

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rated bits, their rated bit specifically for purpose and including break the alright, so I saw that and thought of that must be fake. You just do reported design logo on IT.

No, I wish I was. I got a hot shop.

I think I was in the hospital. And yeah spital so IT looks so A I created marchez .

is tied with David in the first place with nine points. But don't be worried because Andrew .

is hot on .

their tails. I have and he's .

also tied with .

he's also tied with .

those other guys. Think where we're very deep into the season for a tie. Get this is cool, this is cool.

You're all going to get forty something points in the next tribe extra. And not of that matters. But the .

last tribe was decided by one point of .

all episode. Obviously.

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