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right? What is up people that internet? Welcome back to another episode of the way for my podcast wear hosts.

I'm R. S. Andy and i'm David. And you know january, usually there's A C S.

And then a little bit of a low this january twenty, twenty four, we've decided not that we decided, but it's become very clear collectives. It's become very clear that there is no low. We are straight into the thing of the text.

Very sorry. Now delete that part. Um no, but we do have a lot to talk about. We had samsung unpacked officially this week.

This is the week of apple vision probe three orders and we got to experience IT again. And we have some more things to talk about. And there is a unch of other quick hit that will get into in a second.

But I think we should talk with the new big smart t phones I got announced from samsung. So I jump in to one act, shall we? yeah.

So a galaxy s twenty four series is the main thing. There is also briefly A A teaser for a ring, very smart ring, like a three second animation of a circle on the stream. And that was basically all we got.

Yeah, is samsung a expecting a so just like forget about the big, big speaker or I guess that's never happening. But you know they working on something new, that's a ring. And i'm just going to put that to the cycles.

We don't know anything about IT, no date, no Price, no release, no features or nothing, but we do have the phones as twenty four s twenty four plus and as twenty four ultra. The easy take is, wow, they looked the same as last year. But the second you look father and to what they do, there is a lot there.

So just like i'll just go super high level and we can dive into maybe some interesting stuff so they won't start at eight hundred dollars, a thousand dollars and thirty hundred dollars respectively. Uh all of the screens are totally flat with no curve digges and they're slightly uh center bezzle um I am really happy about the totally flat alter. Um they are running snaps I an agent three across the board they have twenty six hundred nit displays across the board. And actually the plus phone got a quite H D as well.

real quick. yeah. Is there an excels version?

Not that we've .

been .

talked about.

There was one last. And the edges of all these phones are all very much more flat. The ultra has this new titanium rail material. I want to river that before.

but there is a apple invented yeah .

course that were all on the point about a but now we get super flat size with the s 2 foreign lus that looked exactly like the iphone。 And I didn't want to say that in the video, because sometimes people say that just too freely all they copy the iphone, just iphone. But then you hold up the phone and look at from the side and IT IT looks exactly, yeah.

The iphone, besides the camera, the camera only thing the different they handle, the ah it's just like phone fine or new cause great IT looks is really good. I was happy about the score size of the iphone when I did that. I'm happy about these. Um but most of the changes, most of the new interesting features with this phone, as predicted from the last naper rag snapshot, eight three phone that I reviewed are in the software department and a lot of my AI related and they're really quite interesting.

I am particularly happy for google of just like getting rid of their pixel division.

merging with something he really felt very google in that presentation.

I mean, yeah from the presentation, that stuff they talk about the actual the hardware was minimal. That was a software presentation that they felt google. I yeah and then like here's this twenty four line up and toss in there somewhere.

Yeah, let me get goose. Ff, uh, let's start with the real time voice translations, because that's where they started to. I got to try this.

And honestly, IT seem like a work really well. Basically, you go the phone, you have a downloaded voice pack. It's like a language pack.

It's like one five hundred and bites for a language you wanted before the phone call. And then I will give you a live voice transcription of what the person saying to you in whatever language. So let's say you doing load the korean pack, you call so on.

They're speaking korean, they say what they want to saying korean, you hear an english voice saying what they are saying, then you talk back to them in english if assuming you speak english and he voices what you said back to them in korean. And IT was smooth and I looked like I was really well. I thought that was very cool.

And just confirming IT is waiting till the entire thing that is that is finished and then starting the .

translation a somewhat if you pause.

it'll start talking okay um continue to .

k yeah one going to be people. I understand if you're doing very ick questions like one two sentences, pause, translation, pause. But that's a very cut and dry like good sample or like experiment. But that's not how .

was also two options on the phone. You can have them hear your voice and then hear the translation. You can just have them not hear your voice at all, and only .

hear the translation .

pause between.

You either hear double of everything, sort of in two different languages, or you hear pause and then the trance.

which the double of everything is what we're kind of used to when we see presentations with people in other languages. Yeah, I don't know how people are going to feel about that over the phone.

It's every conversation going to twice as long. Yes, if you can understand, fine with that. I just wonder if somebody is talking for like five street minutes, how does the translation aspect or is that this not what that what they said, keep in touch with your friends. So i'm assuming that means a phone call where you .

actually have a conversation, but they to come up with the examples. I useful tool. I just don't have that many conversations with people who do not speak a single word of english. I don't think catching up with my friends and involves that level of translation usually. So IT would probably more like i'm in a foreign country or i'm calling someone who i've never called before and I just need them to understand what I am asking for yeah that I just convenient for that .

IT feels way more like a tool like you said, not like, not for fun, not for yeah if you are probably really good friends with somebody and catching up with them, you probably understand certain amounts of to communicate with them in that process.

They leaned in the translation stuff a lot. Um I think transformers are actually specifically good at translation because of the context understanding. And they showed off that translation APP that is basically google translate almost exactly except IT has a different U I.

And IT actually is IT looked fairly spr IT shows IT like IT has your U I on one side and then IT flips the U I for the other person. So it's sort of like what google is doing with the pixel fold or there's a UI on on the other screen. But I feel like this is more natural.

Yeah I also always I for some reason live translation and we have to get there eventually but has felt like the kiss of death on some products in the last five years. Remember the O G pixel buds like the whole thing year? Yeah, I was dead. I put to the surface not also have a forever and maybe wrong on that. I feel like, yeah, you heard about life translations .

for a very long time, and have not you if .

if the other person .

could speak and in real time IT able to translate their voice in their voice, then that would, I would even alive, translation wild. And I feel like they could get to that point at some point because if if there's an a voice map of you, which like apple is already letting you do, then being able to overlay that over what you're saying should be not that big of leap.

So maybe the next few years, maybe out that coming, you'd have to map of every single person you ever .

talk to yeah you would be like, yeah either way every person would have to have their own voice map yeah which maybe you have them do that during set up or when you're doing the hey google thing and just map your voice from there. Sorry, everyone is let up.

You're usually really good, I said also, i'm usually the one missing everyone.

I, I, I.

I pushed that conversation possibly too far. I think it's a cool tool if IT works. And I hope that works because i'm waiting for the one that seems like he works very well. Yes.

something I think will proba little bit as some of the I think there's a couple of things like the note up can straight up your hand writing and the new voice, a voice memo, what is a call? The voice recorder does a lot of the same stuff. Google does not have speaker individual speaker detection. You can summary IT all that sort of stuff.

Google I just to go notes before, like note formatting, like A I to note format and note summarize. So like if you just similar like me, what we do at a lot of these events, you're just typing everything you see really fast but then I can give you haters and bullet points based on everything .

you type just organized IT out Better actually .

think that man so I do like that ah now I mean writing the podcast every week and then .

you could do that for me, would you on right in the t and hit easy no. And but the big things I think are like photo editing and google search on this phone. Uh the google the photo editing is very google like IT.

IT looks just like the pixel. So there's some photo editing features. We can retouch a photo, you can remove reflections, you can fix shadows, things like that, that's in the regular editor. And then there is a magic editor button with the little stars that looks exactly like the pixel magic editor where you click is different. That's the weird, a slightly different logo yeah.

Feels like it's using like this is probably using the snapdragon three technology because most of the changes from sad gan two and three were just A I M L stuff exactly. So it's very strange that samsung inner weaving all of these like google branded features with things that GLE also does with tensor, but its branding IT as galaxy A I yeah.

I just awkward. IT is kind of strength. Yeah, I did feel like there's a tony google stuff.

They could have just said that was magic editor like they already do all the stuff with google.

but maybe they want to keep that. They wanted to be a samsung feeling thing, I guess. but. Yeah, you can literally do the same exact thing that you can on the pixel, which is actually maybe even more.

You can circle, subject, move around the frame race, the background you raised, the whatever you want that IT IT is the photo for you IT adds a tiny AI generated indicator watermark to the bottom of corner which you can then erased with A I just out can you actually water mark in the same? Always true that's true but you can just because you can you um but yeah you can the magic editor doesn't seem to have any restrictions. I played with this for a few seconds.

IT has the cool animation and IT does the moving things around. I couldn't get IT to trip up like I could google. I can get google to go.

This is again, start terms in the review. Video trips up a lot. Yeah, I try to .

move higher up.

I was jumping high in some of the things that felt like it's just straight from the commercial IT. Wouldn't me do some of that stuff interest? Samsung did not want hesitate to do anything.

I asked of IT in in a couple minutes that I played with IT get the phone test more. But I just want to note that interesting. But then the other thing is, uh, google search. Google search is Better on this phone than IT is on a pixel.

but we don't. Is this okay? So the features called circle the star yeah yeah is IT exclusive to samsung phones for now.

I think they never said IT is exclusively on the samsung, but they also said they brought like that. They're partnering with google. And then he was like just google talking about IT for a while, including talking about google cloud and games. And then at the together, us and google with deep collaboration have like brought this to life. So but I I didn't see any of the collaboration .

expect that was one yes.

the coolest thing I thought.

yes. So picture your home buttons at the bottom of the screen, or even the gesture bar and you're doing something in some APP. You see a frame in a video with a cool dress, or you see a picture of something that you think is cool.

Are you do you long press the home button or a gesture bar? And then this sort of a Sparkle U I comes up and you just tap or search or circle whether you want to search, and you just immediately google searched that image. So might remind you of google lens, uh, is looking at whatever on your stream cropping IT to the way you crapped IT, sending that out as a google search and returning a search on that image for you, super useful.

It's also very fast. I like they were showing in the presentation. IT was really fast when I was trying and realize IT was also shockingly fast. So I thought that was cool. Yeah um and it's really convening just being able to instead of you know taking a screen shot and then upload that screen shot to google or to google land or something like that is you just do IT on the fly, you never even leave the APP. You can sech something and then just put away and it's gone super good.

You can also ask questions about things that are really cool. I think that's super useful and that is german. I mini like at work because it's a multimodal functionality.

super good stuff I honestly thought was also is so simple. Like we said, it's just lands. We all used to take screen shots of things on mine.

But just like right in whatever upper, whatever you're doing, pull IT up, circle IT searches. That awesome. I think that's really.

really cool. I think every time there's a global functionality is always useful. Like on the pixel, if you yeah open the multitasking window, IT allows you to interact with any text or image in any APP in the multi tasking view.

Only if you're in that APP itself, you can't like there. There's text that sometimes can't be highlighted and IT won't let you highlighted. But as soon as you open multitasking, you can highlight the text in that window. And so that was like a global functionality that they added to pixel to android, like probably twelve thirteen. And so having a more global functionality where it's like opening a sub a sub window that's doing the google search for you on anything that you circle is like very cool.

And also the key is it's only what you're circling. yeah. So do you remember google now on tap? 嗯， yeah no. So I want to like the pixel four, five, whatever was you basically, I think he was the same thing.

You yeah, you long press the home button and IT takes everything on your screen and IT post up some cards for you to like google search or further explore whatever on your screen yeah. So if you have a you're standing in front of a statue or you have a picture of a statue in the long press home, it'll show you where the statue might be. Maybe you would kip dia article, maybe youtube video about IT, but IT is everything on your screen.

This is an even Better version of that. You you would just circle this statue, and I would show you exactly what you want to know about that statue. And without interrupting whatever up your in, whether it's a browser or the gallery, I I think pretty sick.

Can I say something? Yeah ah I really wanted to do a trivial question about the statues in the unpack things that would be funny and none of them were real statues. But I learned that by trying to google ends each one of them to see. And I was just like, bro, I can't find anything .

I I have to say. I think in the event one of the ways they are talking about, like the some of these features the care assumes, was that someone was like an art gallery and they were taking photos, a lot of things. But I realized all the things they were editing were not actual painting because i'm sure they didn't want to make any changes to real paintings and disrupt, not even just copyright like take away from the artist or anything like that. So that's not surprising about that.

All of the state the paintings were real paint.

not all of them not the ones where they did like A I changing to yeah like they had the most days and they had a couple talking in the beginning, all make them talk ah .

the talking ones were .

the things they edited. Somebody here was a wire, the editing that I was like, i'm pretty sure that is a painting that they .

made specifically for this .

to not yes, through remember them at .

least with my sam's galaxy twenty for .

alter yeah the origin no.

it's their powerful phones. They have a lot of really solid features .

yet they said this, uh, android auto feature. I couldn't tell if that was exclusive or not either. Is not really weird to show case in the same thing of IT because they didn't show .

the phone because it's those like one you I but on your android auto screen, IT looks different from the Normal and read to IT looked like a samsung version of IT just for this phone.

So is that there version of doing what car play does, where IT gets maps to your car, except that gets map to your phone?

This to your phone? Yeah, I guess.

So there was a feature that I did really like, which is if you are navigating somewhere and you get a text message from someone that, you know has an address, when I reads IT out loud, one of the buttons will be a navigate bun. Because, like in android auto, IT will only voice text out loud. And then you can copy that into, like your google maps. But this time you just sit a button, you know the text as a new address, like if you were to changing address on me, and I just press one by and i'm navigation .

ing IT definitely feels like google approach to being in your car is your phone is the central hub of everything. And apple is sort of like, maybe car plays in the car.

maybe we make a car. I know. yes. Yeah ah uh oh man, you know a couple minor other updates.

I would actually okay, batteries are bigger slightly yeah at least in the smaller s twenty four four plus yeah screen sizes, like you said, just a little bit bigger ah seven years of security updates, right, and seven generations of android updates. nice. Pretty impressive.

This feels again, the more I think about this, the more kind of feels like the the iphone of android type thing that i've probably said like a year two ago about samsung fixture phones, which is they have the most soft updates of any android phone. They feel like they have the most features. They have more google features than some of the google phones at this point.

Although they don't have like call screening on some of the pixel excuses stuff, um they might not call a night site, but they should do have a night talk. Many buz word worthy features. And then of course, is just more hardware options. You can get ultrophone with A A new five vex telephoto lands instead of ten x but it's a fifty mega pixel five vex so you can crop in the ten x zoo. M and up possibly .

get same.

You r he was, was a hundred feet camera. That feal bar looked incredible.

The scene I did respect, they actually .

acknowledge that the three x ten x distance was way too big. We've been talking about that for a couple years now with the ultra ones and they were like, yeah you know three x going to ten x is kind of tight. So we decided to five x fifty metafictional o camera. You can crop into the center portion and still get the ten um .

you can still zoom over two hundred x in case you are wondering, yes, you can do IT you can still do IT no something you should do IT but you can still do not telling you. You should use the two hundred megabytes mode on the main camera. Don't even worry about that. Yeah, don't you .

about that part of the A I think that was disturbing to me. That seems like IT was in google messages. Like I think that same thing now uses GLE messages by default in the it's mostly just google messages.

Here was like a little shine over the top. Yeah yeah esthetically.

But they had like a you could change the tone of a message to match a specific .

vibe more than just messages, right? Because couldn't. Because like the example they showed was something we talked about A I O last year, which was like make the tone of this like a social post through .

hashtags yeah which they also showed in the .

keynote yeah okay.

that's what do they had section for the messes o but I do want to talk about that as well. They just had a whole section that was like, do you need to write a social post but don't want to use one percent of your brain, type like random words and then have a generate a social post for you and he uses like six hash tags, which for some reason, all large language models think that social posts have to have hash tags, even if you ask chat G E V T to a social post to add like hashtag freak out friday hashtag there, the .

brand sigma so uses .

hat tags. Yes, also, who wants to live in the world where all of the social media that you consuming are written by A I?

That's the thing is kind of the along the same lines of like GPT written blog posts, yes, where eventually you have so many A I written blog posts that your .

A I is trained .

on and it's okay now we have social posts to me, the content creator maybe I might want some help writing them but now of all the social post are I generated yeah then they're going to continue to think that that's I also supported look.

we're going to talk about something kind of related to this in e commerce later on in the post but IT just reminded me of IT with A I writing way too many things that we read on the now um be at the the can we make an can you make a separate twitter profile that is just every time you tweet something you then take that and make .

ChatGPT make a social world and have an the .

A I version of so funny that's already made someone subscribers on x about that have .

you dead internet theory no it's this theory that like most of the internet by the late twenty tens was created mostly by bots. And so most of the things that we're consuming are just not even people, and there's like not even as there's not nearly as many people actually on the internet that are writing the stuff as we think.

I would feel a lot Better if that were true. I the majority this, if I was reading.

was to be coming true. Yes, yeah.

I .

was.

That is not a real person.

That is A, I guess, so much of what I consume as videos that I don't have that 语言 眼 眼。

肉 later this year just yet yeah.

well speakee IT just hard to went.

Like if most of the content is being generated by A I, and then we are having the A I summarize of the I generated content for us. Yeah, and what are we consuming at the end of the day? Get off your phone, everything, go touch some grass, everything go touch some .

A I and then you finish the entry the from episode and go .

touch do well while name sure with your new galaxy head phones and I X twenty four as twenty four plus S S twenty for ultra I we should be tested in his phones. Person.

I would love to try the s twenty four .

because .

they the size of IT. So I want something that is also still pretty small because I would try to let go back to my regular pixel and I feel like a molding a tabby using um so the regular twenty four. But my thing is, is I am probably the minority in this group, but I like cases on the phone and they are just not enough they're not enough um accessories ies for the same phone up there. And I know .

sam will have a bunch of good ones.

I've been cases less. That's wild.

Everybody cases check.

I mean i'm cases this right now also.

Wow.

I don't want to be I throw I little. I miss just tossing my phone.

have a terrible story once once in college is not that long, doesn't college? I was on a video call um and the bed was behind me and my bed is like in the corner of the room and I have like basically like brick walls and I sounds like my part had I had a msg phone in my hand and I went to look in the web cam feed to toss the phone backwards onto the bed behind me and and so I like look to the size .

is this for a video or something? Just were just like, I sounds like a cool right .

now yeah and I toss IT over my shoulder. And because I hadn't looked the the White angle distortion made to look like I had to throw a lot harder than I did. So I threw the phone and I went straight over the bed and slamming into the wall, and then slotted down behind the bed after hitting the walls.

still didn't crack. Oh, I was going to say, I remember years ago you telling me this is the first phone up, or this is only the second phone i've broken. He didn't tell that story. Yeah, that's why .

I didn't. Even I went to catch the phone as I was dropping IT, and I ended a bad ending. IT across the room have ever that. And in this phone, this pixel slid across so much hardwoods is still totally find. Yeah, I appreciate .

that probably enough people listen to this, that at least five people, like, I ve done that before.

I know if I scratch my displays keys, and but i've never, i've never broken a display before. Really, you have never tracked the phone. Yeah.

I just taking one, the D, J, I map controller, and just pulled open too hard and IT popped out of the U. S, B.

Sitting slam. And that's like a rack. Yeah, yeah. sorry. Anyway.

i'm excited for that, for i'm legally excited. I actually think the flat screen and the flat rails are a great design color.

You ning put case.

are you going to upgrade from one hundred twenty eight base?

No, I I should because i'm taking a million baby pictures.

Yeah, it's a lot of high rise.

Fifty nine office, seven phones.

two hundred member .

pixel baby.

first A I take this baby photo. You take IT in space.

Al videos. Okay, we should take a break. Don't do that. Please don't do that.

That we'll talk about. Ice side is second to.

but let's take a quick break with a lot of vision for stuff and a lot of other quick hits to talk about. So in the meantime.

I did.

Did so first question, the s twenty four finally, uh, has titanium. We've i've .

been waiting for IT they right?

glass? No, jay isn't jay like a, like a royal al .

finites.

you could make the whole phone out of radium. What's radium? It's the ingredient in catalytic converters. It's an ingredient phones.

I have a concert .

theory .

that .

samsung is going around and stealing everyone's catala converters for the phones.

Why putting him in phones?

Well, if they say made the phones.

that kind of converter materials started, which i'm proposed.

atomic number and period.

I was going to ask that.

And then I was like.

that too easy, someone has to know. And of course, the first says, yeah, IT more like titanium.

And I right? No.

you know.

I think you thanks.

Well, all think of a number at some point. Answers will be at the end of the park, so sue will think about IT be back.

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The guy is free to you at net week com sash way form next sweet dot com flash way for I welcome back we we, meaning me and David o collectively, David, I have tried the vision pro a couple of times now, most recently this week. Yes, this was my fourth time trying the vision pro. Third time.

This is your third time pro. This time we got to try some new things specifically. IT was never tried before.

Not a thing, only curious. So far, a couple third party apps. The new head strapped, the new heads trapped.

So a all of this we can talk about. I just wanted sort of a zoom all the way out to my fourth impression of of the headset. Now, yeah, which was okay, my first impression, genuine first impression.

And I made a video all about IT, which was like fifteen and along was like, this is easily the most impressive ere has set have ever warned. IT is incredibly crisp and clear, very immersive. The screens are amazing.

The eye tracking is phenomenal. It's like a magic ah the selection method when you just look at something and top of fingering either works super well. It's super high quality built like this thing is amazing. It's a little heavy. But this is an a phenomenal piece of technology and I can't wait to see what up show and that demo was around fifteen minutes yeah .

also can confirm they would not stop talking about at that trip. That is that's one at first .

announced when we first checked in that right. Second time was like back in new york city. I I remember that being amazing.

But okay, let's put the thing on again. I put IT on again, like, yeah, I did still really crisp. It's still really good.

There's this new calibration process where you look at these different dots around the screen several times and IT calibrates your eyes. Now you do the selection thing again. And yeah, you do this whole demo while the exclusion on my hands s is really good.

God, this thing is really heavy though. IT is metal. I get why they make these things out of plastic.

But aside from that, still pretty impressive. Peace of technology. Third time was me watching some of my own space, al, videos and photos on the headset, right?

I put the thing on, yep, still heavy. okay? But let's see. Let's look at spatial videos and photos. And you know, there's a kind of a sweet spot like three to five feet away from the camera, where the spatial effect is really strong in the third is really impressive.

And so I kind of to learn that, got to try some other apps and look at some big pen ramas which have this parallax effect, oh yeah, but only ten minutes in the headset on like this thing is heavy, and take IT off. Fourth time, I use the headset, which was this past week, and I you do the fitting again, which is, it's kind of like this face I D process, two scans from an iphone employer and face ID, and you get the custom fitted headset. And this time they said, okay, we've got both straps here.

Which one would you like to try? There is a solo loop one. And then there's like this dual band one, which puts more of the weight top of your head.

So let's try to dual band one, and we put on top, adjust, described in everything immediately. Like jesus, this is a heavy headset. This thing is heavy.

I've had IT on for twelve seconds. This is very heavy. Okay, let's get into IT.

This time what we do, we we check out safari, so we ve got to score through websites. You can pension, zoom and move windows around. We got to the keyboard, type on the keyboard.

That was interesting.

both the most impressive of endless impressive part to me. Yeah, i'll explain. Yeah, ready. There's two ways to type on the keyboard. First way is you enter the like your l bar, whatever, and a virtual keyboard pops up and you literally poke in the air and on a virtual keyboard, there's no feedback.

But the amazing thing about this input method, even though it's incredibly slow, is that it's not like like the the depth of where the keys are and where you think your fingers going to be when it's pressing on the key. Like often when when you're using virtual floating keyboards and other of our heads, sets and stuff, you kind like poke through the keys until they register. But this one, you look in your lego camp, touching the top of the key and if you like, move your finger down at all IT starts to press the key down IT feels one to one with where your fingers are. You can feel that you can feel that.

Ah but there is like like reaction do IT rather than just IT laid up.

Ah you see the key of and you think there the sound, I think so. And it's not it's not a binary where it's like as soon as you touch IT, it's like in a downward position IT can flex like a regular key on the keyboard.

please like that has an actuation point yeah sure yeah but that's only one way to type. Yeah the other way you can type is if you just look at the letter and touch your fingers together yeah and then look at the next letter and touch your fingers together. And I typed so fast with the second method, it's crazy that can a headache just like A I mean, I was trying to type fast so like he's already a little IT.

I I was going a little .

bit nice but like I went in because in in the poking tight method, you can't you can't really home roll IT because your fingers will overlap kind of not that accurate. So you're poking so it's like M K B H D dot C O M enter yeah but with the I typing method, I promise you I said M K B H D 到 C O M enter。 And IT was faster and IT probably would look crazy if you saw my eyes and the way I was like .

looking around the keyboard.

See a video of that sick I was having so fast. But honestly, the third and final way is just like ask theory, yeah, up in the corner, just look at the microphone and just start talking and IT puts.

I want to see if I can type one hundred words a minute using the keyboard.

You cannot no shot I ve got.

I am going to, I will.

I will do no .

shot by end of year.

I'm giving .

sixty .

as a target. And I think that's really .

makes this a is new and go right to .

the website.

Have to try, be the first .

thing to try. So they also had an assessment, the actor this time that was ABS made for vision pro. yeah. And they had the one of the ones that they showed us was a three modeling type of application where different companies can like through different three models to show how stuff works. So they showed f one, showed a twenty twenty three.

After a mail, f one car exploded in a hundred percent scale in the room. So I was like walking around. The tire was the size of the tire. Yeah, so you could pick IT up with their hands. And IT was the size of the regular cool.

The cooling that was interesting about that is you would look at apart on the car and you would just move your hand like you would pinch your hand and move IT. And depending on what you were looking at, you would move the part that you wanted to move that was awesome, and you can scale them and look them around. And then there was another section where IT showed like the air flow dynamics going over IT.

I realy modeling and like architecture and stuff like that feels like an awesome way for like client, like work. And just is the V R.

World in. Just never knew that vives for a yeah yeah. I really .

think that the like prime .

to me that that's how they review the interview of the cars in the car with a vir has said.

I think bmw said they did the same thing yeah, but with the vive way back in the day.

yeah. So we we got to try that. IT looked phenomenal.

Superhighway very responsive. yeah. There are also some media apps. So the disney APP your mega capital is a map, super, super disney. They they build some experiences around like, okay, you want to go to you to go to the marvel section of the APP now you will be on the avenger rooftop with the shield next.

And you'll have like the menu Normally is, but you in an environment that looks like IT belongs, there is a star wars one too. I don't know if that's also disney yeah yeah. So there's a star world one where again, you can watch a movie, but if you look around, you're not a desert tat.

exactly. So thank you. They'd built some things for the vision pro experience that made me feel more native to vision pro instead of just a floating window.

Like to be one who hasn't optimize a single thing in there. So it's cool to see that type of stuff. Um and then lastly, what is oh, we got to see eyesight.

Yes, we got to see ici .

IT was we got to see ice. I had a lot .

of trouble not laughing at the guy I was IT was really differ because they brought us into a separate room to talk to a guy that was using eye.

To be clear, I don't think eyesight has been working on a single other headset that we've been demoted. No, I think this is the one that they do have eyesight de working on.

I think it's been working, but they've just been hiding because I think they are terrified of photos of ica because no notice that they let us take photos of our self wearing the vision pro, but not what the eye was off. That is like explicit, like we are not showing that to the public because we don't. People look at that.

yeah, he was weird. They know that looks down.

I yes.

IT was like one of the only things i've ever seen in an apple event get announced in the whole place, started laughing like that was just not. I did not hate .

like they wanted to you theoretic. I think IT makes at least sense. So yes, so I so if the idea I get, but here's cow in person that looks, you look at the person and the rest of their face is totally clear and got the heads on and their eyes are like kind of there, but they're really blurry yeah and so don't you're not really looking at someone's ice in the headset.

I'm sure they think they're looking into your eyes, but you're looking at a blurry, weird look version of their eyes. Okay, fine. When they go into an environment or look at some media, have a screen or have you included? Yeah, instead of showing your eyes, IT will show that like purple, blue, shimmery thing that we saw on the photos of us wearing IT, which makes sense.

So now the person looking at the headset wear knows they can't see me. And if you're in the headset and you look at the person through the window or whatever for long enough, IT will create a little party in the fog, and the clue on the outside with the eyes will also create a little party in the purple fog. It's blurry eyes and purple fog.

And if they have a window between them and you, there's a reflection, like a blue reflection in the in their eyes, yet the heads OK. There is so much small, small detail. Yes, I think the .

whole like you have a window and you can have someone kind of appear through IT. So you're not like way to the .

I think .

I I remember when we they put out A W D V D C. That's what I said in the verge. Casting is my favorite thing they did is a great idea. And like you said, everything about eyesight makes perfect sense.

Crazy yeah now to top IT all off we finish this demo experience. I take the heads set off. Oh my god, it's so heavy.

It's so is the heavy as be your headset you'll ever work? And that's not just the metal like the battery isn't even on the headset. It's a cable that's like wrapped around and behind doing your back pocket just then. Metal, the glass, the second display, there's a lot of compute. It's a heavy headset. I and this is why I keeps saying, I think my favorite use case of this still, from what I ve experience, is going to be sitting back in a chair where my head is propped up and watching a movie on a plane. Give me the heavy headphones, give me the heavy headset, and I just lean back, and then I can watch the movie and not string my neck because i'm not moving my neck.

What's that chair everyone has for, like listening to records.

the family military? I think.

sorry, I think I do you .

know that my grandpa .

has to share that everyone uses to listen to records would like, yeah yeah .

that's going to .

turn into the new vision pression just like I think dentist there's a lot .

of .

reactions to what I was talking about with the weight online. I don't to be clear, I don't think it's a deal break. Er, I just think it's you're gonna notice IT very quickly.

And if you look at the people who have posted photos themselves wearing and everyone has one thing in common is is pushing down right on the bone of your cheek, like on right to and it's like pushing you can see in everyone's picture, it's pushing them down because that's where most of the way to sitting. We tried both of the bands yeah, the solo loop, weirdly to me. And again, this is such a fast demo.

IT was more comfortable for me. Yeah, even though I felt even happier, I think that's all for me. And I had the dual loop on, the dual heads strapped on, and I tightened the top, and then tightened the back, and then tied the top, and then the back again.

And I thought I got a licence snug, but I was kind of lifting from my cheeks, which made IT feel lighter. But IT was pressure, yeah, was more pressure at the top, and then less of us. A light, see up the bottom.

So I actually preferred the solo loop band. Yeah, if that makes sense, I think I did too. Okay, I have a question.

yeah. When you say it's heavy, can I get some sort of comparison like heavy like. You're wearing m fifties right now, plastic headphones on even Better plastic light way headphones.

You've warn, air pods max， right? Yes, it's that equivalent difference. So if you're not thinking about IT, you can wear IT for twenty five, thirty five minutes and maybe never even noticed. If if the bans right on the top your head perfectly, you're just sitting back letting the music fine. The second you move your head around or think about IT or start to get that fatigue, IT wears way faster then a light way class for me.

I took IT off and my head hurt for a while. Yeah, there's various levels of people getting like headache. And I had like a light headache for sure. yeah. And I wore IT for maybe twenty minutes, twenty, twenty five minutes. Yeah, my the most interesting thing for me because today, the day that everyone's watching this and listing to IT is the day the world in the first batch there apparently to be sixty, eighty thousand units for launch day.

I think they're going to be impossible to get.

I think it's a really fast, but you really have to be OK with the fact that that's the case. And then the other thing was that my favor thing to do in the vision co. Was looking at photos, especially like looking at panorama because like you said, there is sort of like this parallel effect, seeing my photos really huge in front of me in that fidelity is really amazing. I even enjoyed like watching the photos that they had taken of just like people and stuff IT was kind of fun to look at yeah um I don't know if that's a thirty five hundred dollar use case device and they don't have any first party apps that they are feeling like are a killer application that people should be spending thirty five hundred dollars on this thing for. They're really, really, really leaning into developers to figure out why people should buy the vision pro because as IT stands, I do not see apple with an APP that comes with the vision pro that I would say this is worth buying the vision pro pro.

Okay, here's my theory. You know how every time you get a new like computer, a laptop from apple that give you the classic like demos of, okay, here is the final cut demo, here is the safari demo, here is the blender demo. And you get to see what they think people will value most about that computer based on the demos and the soft show.

With this one, I think the killer APP right now is just media, just watching videos, photos and videos. Apple T. V. Even going on the browser watching youtube videos.

I really, really hope there was a youtube APP at lunch that lets me watch three sixty videos and regular videos at the other more and stuff like that. Ah it's the number one most impressive thing to do on that. I don't really want to to spend a wild browsing and safari on a vision pro same. He doesn't feel that D F.

Like if i'm going to be in a browser, they have a feature where for you using the vision pro and you look at your macbook screen, additional screens will pop up. We didn't get use that, but they said that, that would be a thing in the launch. Um so I would probably try that just having additional monitors around you. But yeah regular browsing and a vision like it's not going to be a laptop replacement .

for me that also like that scene seems to be what VR in general wants to get to is the like let's work isn't your workflow even though we will live to our battery life but .

besides the point of that.

the wall okay. yeah. But like when you said before this, the way IT wasn't a deal breaker, if you're going from like the first to the fourth time you're trying in every time IT being heavy is getting more and more on your mind.

I can imagine that by the tempt time you pick IT up to put IT on your head and go, this is just I don't feel like using this right now. It's going to be too you back. I I totally get.

I think what IT really does for me is that just restricts the amount of things that I want to do with IT. So if there is a game I really like and i'm about to pick up the vision pro again, I know that there is a fine item at a time i'm going to be playing this game if i'm on a play or i've found going to sit down somewhere that doesn't have a headrest. I don't want watch a movie.

I say IT as somebody who like i'm very for the to and try IT. I the only apple software uses in the the studio. I am not apple anything.

And I still think this really I would never spend thirty five hundred dollars of money, but I can't wait to try IT. I think there's a lot of stuff and IT IT seems like actions are like revolutionary almost. But the wait thing, I am like how they wanted to be a work and they they talked about working stuff a lot.

There is a lot of standard death. Here's a keyboard. Here's duty modeling. I just can't with how much already saying how .

have IT is like it's .

gonna sitting on the test is my I this is the thing because it's .

it's thirty five hundred dollars and something that thirty five hundred dollars that are only going to for like five to ten minutes every few days. The use case there is not therefore most.

So then maybe we can considering to have seven day battery life if you're never going to use IT for more .

than like twenty minutes. My theory for the reason why it's thirty five hundred and everything is people to buy.

they don't want gender people.

I think that's gonna people who are developers that buy IT and they have IT. And then when friends come over and family came over, they like, oh, that's the thing. Let me try IT.

We've all seen people's first reactions to VR when they put on like the oculus back in the day. It's like magic. And so that's the experience that apple wants for these in people's homes.

I agree, and I feel like we've been saying that for a long time. Like this feels like the developer version that they just don't want to say developer version. But there are so many people out there that are going to buy this that aren't developers.

I wonder, like why not make a developed versions so you can actually make sure all the developers get IT in? There's not be a tone of people who want to develop for this that it's gonna sold out. There are not going to .

get IT because they're offering IT about. You just don't have the ability .

to look at IT and you're not going to be able to do IT as well if don't get test. I'm sure there are people out there again and you can develop not if you're developing for you would prefer to have one. And there will be people .

who don't get IT developing on via. And if you're developing phone, you just have to simulate how people tap your phone, which is pretty easy with a mouse. But if you're doing whole vision proof, it's a lot more to I think it's a lot more ah um I will say one more thing.

What was I going to say about vision pro? I OK I also I had someone ask recently like, oh, what do you think? And I ended up just summarizing IT. I summarized IT as it's like a really expensive toy.

Yes.

no. I just thought when we went to triple f, all those cars were really cool to play in like drive for like ten minutes.

But owning one is just they're on .

it's the later of the r heads that I know. It's like if you have the money for IT and you just on a wim decide to get one, it's going to be fun for the once in a while that you do play game, watch a movie, watch back some special videos and it's just going to be up to whatever APP show up for the rest of like why people should actually get this thing.

Yeah, something I really liked from IT was the environment that they had. They added a new environment for the demo that we had that was Walker layer. I don't saying, I don't know, I don't know, I have wrong.

IT is the top of the tower in hawaii and IT was quite cool because if you pulled up like a movie or something and you played the movie, you know how, uh, companies are releasing those like back lighting for TV that will sort of apparently play the lighting behind the TV IT like bounces off of the clouds that are floating let's call of the mountain. So IT has this like very ambient effect. There's also um with the spatial audio, you can kind of sort of here the wind kind of going like so IT .

feels like you're watching .

something in the place and the fidelity of the rocks and everything is amazing. The interesting thing is like with a laptop or a phone, you have some customization through a wallpaper with this, they're giving you environments. And then some apps like the disney APP also can develop their own environments.

I don't know whether or not developers of other apps can develop their own environments if like notion wanted you to have a notion environment or something like that. I think yeah, the bomber for me is there is no personalization aspect of this device, right? Like unless you consider the transparent with the personalization .

is your house.

Your house is the place. I would .

assume that's because the the mount of information of like the file, you would need to do that. Now you are someone who could give a high enough resile.

So this is the thing is that I have this panorama s that i'm going to like release for the vision pro people. And you you can basically stretches around your entire scene. But I think that apple wants people to have there because in the environment, there's like little things that are moving their some sound escapes.

I think they want to be very intentional and like what kind of space in. But the thing is like looking at my panama s like massive like that. So sick that personally, I would prefer to just be in my own environment that I shot and they like, let people shoot their own iphone pain. I was like, if you went to the beach with your family and you wanted that to sort of be your like a well paper for vision pro, IT would be nice to be able to do that.

Yeah IT would. The problem is the other side of that scale where my mom, sorry, mom, downloads a photo from a an android text message and then tries to blast that as the background. And then there's just a big so you would actually need the opposite of file that too large you would be like this file is too small to be.

yes. IT sounds like see that also IT sounds a little bit like the state that apple watch faces are in. Reason that third parties couldn't make them android .

wear that was like what was the APP, the android word that came out right when android were came out that let you make your own watch faces. I don't used to mess with that so much anything just that .

like they want the system of like plugging in all the different kids and aps instead to be so perfect that they don't even want to White people try but I I agree with you, David. Like I think there is absolutely no reason you couldn't put a photo of your in and then I go, oh, that's a cloud.

I cloud DNA. I mean, the fact that there's not a lot of customization features. Um another thing, I asked them if they were like profiles.

So if my wife I don't have a wife, but if I did, if you had of a control, anyway, wanted to use my vision, pro and SHE could, like, set up her own, you know, I tracking thing, and I could just handed IT to her. You can do that. I just assumed you could.

Yeah, I also did that. I ask you can only be connected to one apple I D um, but they have a guest mode. But the annoying thing is anytime anyone other than the person who bought the vision pro and logging to their API ty wants to use IT, they have to retaliate ate in the guest mode, so they have to do .

the whole set up process. Again, it's about a ninety second, but it's still at knowing .

very device that you're probably only going aware for like a few minutes at a time unless you're watching and also profiles.

just like there's more to just the calibration aspect of IT like this saved their bookMarks. There's all sorts of different layouts and like, yes, that IT might be something .

bad in the future and I can see them .

not that yeah I mean.

at least gentoo will definitely happen. I think in two of this is going to be twenty to thirty percent later, forty percent cheaper, maybe thirty percent cheaper. And we will have profiles and we'll be a lot more durable.

will be the consumer version yeah.

this is the, this is the the rich developer version yeah. And then the people who just like want to buy first ten apple.

anything which is more than IT should be there is a lot .

yeah that is a lot. IT is at least sixty eighty five yes, exactly. yeah. Well.

that's you know that's our thirty four time trying IT. I think when this actually gets a released and we get to review the thing, we're going have a lot more answers ers to the questions with. There's a lots of things we don't know.

I don't know if you can screen in court. I don't know if there is going to be controller support for games. I don't know.

There's lots of things I don't know about yet, so stay tuned. Yeah, we're gona keep you all posted. The videos will be flowing. Yeah, january, be january. yeah.

The way thing like it's some this thing up is one of the most advanced mac magical pieces of technology have ever used .

that I not sure that I .

want to use dam .

or will hurt to use yeah yeah.

But did you see apple vision pro starter pack is like a neck race and a pinch hand? Like that, like that about right? yeah.

alright. Will keeping I on that? I think before we get to that last bit, we should, we should take a good break.

little break.

So Andrew, earlier you said this is not the first time we've seen a live translation announcement. And you're right, we've actually been seeing them for quite a while. So I went through the history books and I compiled as many live translation feature announcements as I could find. So I want you guys to rack your brains and think about the first time you heard a company announce a live translation feature. I want the company, and I want the year ever, and I want whoever gets the earliest one will get this week's point.

Eighteen seventy six live translation feature.

live translation feature and or washing because I realized this is a tRicky question. I'm looking for the year of the announcement, not the release that doesn't even actually have had to come out. That just needs to have been announced as a feature. And IT needs to be speech in, speech out, not text.

See, so I got IT, got IT. See, so speeches, speech.

I have a list in front of me of one, two, three, five, seven. Yes, I have seven. A different announcements or any .

of them about right now?

I I don't know, I genuinely don't know. I don't use these features that they are cut of bad personally but um yeah maybe you do.

I don't know. Are they all from google?

No, I have speech .

and speech. Aw IT depends.

You know .

some doing have to get here.

right?

If you're off by like one year, i'll give IT to you.

you know but you know .

you should be reasonably right. It's also its tax or a lot of the stuff gets announced at the end of the year and released the beginning of the year. So there's two different numbers OK, but a wow, the trivial .

questions go on. So good it's mean so .

so .

yeah anyway, I guess all all say that I will be back after the break.

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Welcome back. We've got a couple last quick hits for you that are some of the smaller stories of the week, but at least worth updating. One of them just going to warn you now it's probably a dated sense.

We talk about IT. We're going to talk about IT now is not going to update, but it's the apple watch story which is evolving. Uh, they have this thing where they got we talked about before they got suit about the blood and something in the apple watch.

And so they might have to halt sales for my temporary health sales. And then maybe going to bring you back when we have proposed that we're going to ship one with like a software adjustment and then that didn't get approved. And now I think the point right now, yes, is they have been banned. Yeah, we banned. They will not accept just a software fix and so they look like they will have to start shipping a new version.

which at least disables said some yeah so software software .

fix to keep IT. They didn't agree software fix to disable IT the yeah about exactly sure of the world. They have to .

stop selling them again um as of five pm on genera teen th which is yesterday for listening to this as of today IT is tomorrow um writing between yesterday wishes .

today if it's tomorrow .

yeah got IT to know and .

if you're adam editing this good that's true.

We started recording and I was like they're lowed to sell them for now but then they're reviewing IT and then after we hit the record button that mark good article came out I was like actually they're stopping and I was like.

OK yeah but anyway this letter was released uh from mamos lawyers that effectively said, okay, if you remove the feature from the apple watch, then you can start selling them again. Um they either will completely start stop selling apple watches as of thursday or theoretically there is a report that they have watched in stock that already have the feature disabled that they will just switch to selling starting five P M on thursday.

I also want to ask the question you just because this is also confusing IT seems as though if you already have the watch with the sensor, you will not be affected.

Body knows.

nobody knows that seems to because like isn't the whole thing that they cannot sell with the blood oxygen feature?

I think think so.

IT seems like if you had before, think I wonder. And maybe it's based on serial numbers, if you like factory reset previously your old apple watch, I would guess you'd still be fine. Please don't take that, but that sounds like if you do get the new watch when IT comes out without the future, whatever that is, everything else is fine.

Everyone doing this does the new watch. It's going to be the same Price, right? They're not they're not going to discount of display having missing a feature.

Yeah yeah so luckily, everyone who liked IT because we did a lot of people tell us they like the blood oxygen feature. You still have IT. Yeah, just find more valuable. Yeah you are looking for one .

because of that. I hope .

they're not gonna jack IT up on the secondary mark gonna .

be interesting how they uh change all of the wording and the documentation on the ultra series three this year um because that's going to take away this features theoretically.

Yeah yeah knowing apple, they'll just not talk about IT at all. yeah.

There's a little .

just ignorant speculation .

about whether or not a software update is going to remove the future, but nobody has said anything for sure. So I think that we're just have to wait and see and maybe that will become clear by the time you guys are listening to podcast.

Yeah that seems like the most up to date information we have .

is that as of wednesday at three fifty cm.

is that at some point earlier the week he ter times slash, possibly month, apple asked a judge if they could have .

an extension being able to sell .

this stuff yeah and also but I also appeal, right there is an appeal but also they they asked a judge to and mosai C2Confirm, like if we fix this with software, is that an except fix that like effectively removes the technology and IT seems like everyone agreed to that and like, because that was part of moscow statement that like, yeah, we would be cool the software fix just as long as the feature is disabled yeah.

The point is we don't .

know yet this so complicated and why does he even matter how much air is in my blood?

We have done a lot of people who do really like it's really paper. Apparently, it's great for i'm just saying there are a lot of people who there are metrics that they appreciate. But mark s. Are saying on another earlier, like I do think there's a lot of people who, until they realized that that is great, didn't know they want IT. So plenty of people getting this watch are just gona never know that existed and never know that I could be cool.

IT is not ny. How much the tech runge article slams the just like says the features can really you says that headline is literally apples fixed for the apple watch serious nine and ultra two salesmen could be disabling a useless feature. And then throughout the article, it's like IT will impact no one yeah everyone coming out honestly have little impact on anyone who ends up buying one of these in the future. There are probably but yes, but we had a lot of people reply to our community saying that it's valuable .

anyway anyway so will continue to update yes. Um i'm sorry but I cannot refill the access as IT goes .

against A A horia article that the verge road uh were effectively there are a bunch of amazon listings that are just being generated by uh ChatGPT and there are some glitch in the naming of the like. They're just telling ChatGPT like name all of these products for me and put them on him was on and so there were some like they were not able to name them because of some like policy drop dripping script failed. That's exactly. So a bunch of products on amazon that are just called I apologized, but I cannot complete this task because IT requires using trademark brand names, which goes against the OpenAIr p olicy.

Some of them are different though, right? It's a bunch of different policies.

But this is what happens when you get that tiktok that's like, have you automated your system to just like generate money for you overnight, you just need to OpenAIce cr ept to ju st li ke a li ttle an d yo u do th at. And this is what you get that brakes. You get horrible listings with titles that don't work because OpenAI couldn't do IT and just fail.

This is also kind of the reason scared to use the rappid AI product because this might and stuff because they just all like script acy. It's like what's GTA break, but it's just really funny because there's like there's like a desk that holds stuff inside of IT or A A side table and it's i'm sorry, but I cannot force open policy and that just goes dash Brown yeah ah .

this is my favorite what I also has that is a calorie, which I is the brands name then is is apologies, but i'm unable to assist with this request to go against OpenAIr u se p olicy a nd e ncourages u nethical b ehavior. Dash black, the color part of the script, the color of the brand. But what is is a chair, by the way, I don't know it's going to be unethical .

about the chair, but that's very a lot.

I I read this really great piece IT was about this idea that we're going about ai kind of wrong and and this sort of situation. How is a really good example that where this writer was saying that the current .

entrepreneur .

model of using A I especially language models is have a model, do a task, have a human check, its work right? Because then you can, in theory, just have the model, do IT a lot of times, then slowly turn through the double checks with the handful unit. But actually, IT would work way, way Better, the opposite way, if you let humans do more work and then save their time by having a double checked by a robot.

I feel like IT depends so much on the task, because that ratio works so well for me with like, like writing something. For example, IT might take me and out to write something, and then IT takes GPT two seconds check, or IT takes GPT two seconds to write something, and then IT takes me five minutes to correct totally. And then it's a win for that ratio. Well.

the problem is, is how often they're wrong right now. So check IT being your check is a little worse.

yes, but yeah.

it's good. Also.

I people to write stuff with their brains.

That's what this would be doing. My brains not very good.

So also you can kind of like see how many boss are on twitter if you just search goes against the open the eyes and content policy because, uh, you'll just see all of the fake accounts that are just twent. Sorry, but I cannot provide a about indicator, but it's just kind of funny in IT shows how much of the internet is just being automated within one year of this technology. Now this podcast, by the way, is entirely AI generated know the real David .

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David with twenty. That's right.

First question. So bind the s twenty four of has titanium. Finally.

I like titanium. yum.

You write what atomic number on the periodic table is titanium use just on the same page. Peer guess, right? It's heavy, pure. Guess you just did .

you even tell? Actually not a guess. Me.

i'm .

given up. Okay, sorry, that sound funny .

and it's that's you can tell if no, no, no muc. I mean, that's a tani is by light. It's a light rock.

Get IT music of thanks.

That whole thing was starting to a mean, okay, lid, we are all different pages here.

I put fourteen. That's right.

I put forty two.

That's the answered. I put sixteen. How who is closest was a fourteen I know that was tech, was eight, is twenty .

two my.

god.

So I don't know about you, but i'm feeling like titanium yes.

the remix that's the .

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What do you need the crab?

All right question too. But first, quick announcement for all the concerned people that reached out after the studio channel ces vlog. I still have the purple twelve mini. I was just using a fifteen on the show floor because that is my camera for a production stuff anyway. So still attacked Andrew for .

the two .

people like they lay. No, there this. Yeah.

no. People were concerned. Wanted you over. Yeah, I had switched.

So don't .

worry. Question to I, Andrew, you mentioned that this is not the first time we've seen by this. I mean, same second impact is not the first time we've seen a live translation feature announcement.

So I spent some time compiling a quick list. There could be some i've left out, maybe i'll get them from you. In fact, check but name the earliest live translation announcement ukon. I'm looking for the company and the year of the announcement to be exact. And whoever gets the earliest real one i'll give IT to.

I have a question as not to affect my answer at all OK. When you say sound in, sound out, does the sound out have to go also to a person you're talking to?

Or just like i'm including video chats as well. So could what .

if somebody's talking to me and then I include you?

I am including video chats. Oh.

what if i'm the only person that hears that doesn't matter? Oh.

dave, it'll let you amend your answers. Should I am? Am my answer? I don't know. You tell me I am. I'm going, he said.

is that a hint could be.

is that a .

jeffrey hinton?

There's it's so like I don't expect any of you to get the absolute earliest one i'm giving IT to whoever here gets the gets the earliest one of the three. That's a good well, I just stop. I I can't prove that what i've found is even the earliest one.

minter。

I just want with the earliest what I know, which is probably like the latest on that list.

all right, that's in. I just .

hear what's here.

Interesting guy. I also originally Andrew.

let's you know for I just .

pixel boots, right?

Pixel buds that was in twenty eight.

No, it's not. And the pixel buds pro.

but the the o had a little little string that was a major part of the .

announced ment. I'm sure I there were some I missed yeah ah mark has .

a seven skype. In two thousand seven.

I could not find any evidence of skype doing that. In twenty two thousand seven. I did find evidence that skype introduced this feature or excuse me, announced this feature in twenty fourteen.

I said two thousand and ten .

and he said skype as well. I did. What do .

you think .

you discuss?

Yeah, who's the most? Who's the least round? I was only wrong by three months.

I just know that google trans had a very early gin.

october. I was close. cool.

All right. Here's what I was able to find. Here's what I was able to find.

He is stuck with good. So did you give me A?

I don't know. Yes, OK, we're so figured that out. Google translate conversation mode, yeah, was announced in two thousand and ten.

but I was literally going .

to write that after that. Microsoft announced a live translation feature in twenty twelve. Also in two and twelve, an APP called A I not having IT.

It's a french word pronounced. I'm in a spirit. It's A V O, C R yeah think it's to voc. But I again.

A.

The mavor phone google a phone call with my Samson.

Google translate announced IT again in twenty fifteen. correct. And then ever since then, companies announced life translate with pretty much every of that. So David, you got the year closest, but the .

company .

pretty wrong. And I mean and .

IT was .

outside my correct company in.

oh my god, just I twenty company .

and the year right .

and within despite IT being really yeah but despite IT being .

that way later than all yes.

completely missing the point of the question .

and somehow Carry I want to tell a little story really great. When I was in the world, japan, in two thousand and sixteen.

I used to go anyway.

I was deep in the forest. Okay.

this could go horribly. run. Get ready to cut where?

Dump by A. I was going to see .

the native monkeys about the top of a mountain. IT was very difficult. Get to the top of the mountain.

You had to heal. taxi. And in order to do that, like there are a couple taxes that around, but nobody spoke any english.

Really difficult. I was trying to tell the taxi, like where I wanted to go. He had no freaking idea. So I was like, doesn't google translate have like A I speak in IT speaks out future and IT did IT.

And this eighty five year old japanese man is driving this taxi like, I I were having so much trouble communicating. I speak into IT. IT comes out the other side, his face just like a lights up. He's like, um oh and then he speaks back into IT and then he comes out to me and I like, yeah, I was like.

this is the best meanwhile in the eyes like, want to go get dinner? Yes, sounds cool. Where in real people you like that IT IT felt like magic .

like he felt like, yeah, I was like, I am living in the mocking future right up. I love that. That's a great story and then I would can keep that I can show you can put some photos in the monkeys in the podcast.

They're pretty cool and a photo .

of the .

guy yeah well, that's a very wholesome ending to the pod this week. Let us know if you guys have any request of things you want to know about vision prevented comes out. Let us know how out of date we are with .

the apple watch store and .

that we are you you for next.

how many of you bought .

a vision pro and how many you got s twenty four because that's going to be on sale like right away.

I know about the two thousand eight vote phone research paper about live translation that I totally read, but didn't feel applicable for this trivial. Got there ahead.

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