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Didn't we see like a million concurrent streams on the... It was just the US one. 1.2 million concurrent on YouTube during the live stream. For only the Nintendo US. There was Nintendo UK, which also had like 200,000 viewers. They just said, Nintendo Switch 2 in it. And that was the whole thing. I think they used pounds probably. That's the only way it was.

What is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Nintendo Switch 2 podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques. I'm Andrew. And I'm David. Nintendo Switch 2. Nintendo Switch 2. Nintendo Switch 2. And a couple other things happened this week, including Nintendo Switch 2 accessories, Nintendo Switch 2 games, and Nintendo Switch 2 Joy-Cons. But let's start with Nintendo Switch 2.

Actually, no. Let's talk about April Fool's Day. April Fool's! April Fool's Day was also this week. It did come out, though. There were some solid April Fool's Day things. Don't worry, we're going to talk about the Switch 2. I just felt like, you know, in the transcript, if we have a whole bunch of Switch 2, maybe that helps for SEO. SEO through the roof. Nintendo Switch 2. And we're going to title it that, right? Nintendo Switch 2. And the thumbnail? Nintendo Switch 2. Okay, perfect. Good. It's like the language in SpongeBob. Nihon doi. Switch, Switch, Switch.

- No, okay, there were some good April Fool's Day, first of all, we did an April Fool's Day short. It was panels, it was all white collection. It was pretty funny. - It was pretty good. - If you haven't seen that. - It was well done. - It was also just a PSA to not forget that it's April Fool's Day 'cause lots of things get announced.

Did you guys have favorites? Dbrand had Touch Grass, which is a real product. I do like it when a company releases an April Fool's Day joke and then actually starts selling it. Yes. And not only that, but obviously Dbrand's a sponsor of our channel, so take everything we say with a grain of salt. Disclosure. They wanted to do it last year, but...

they made the skin and it was like flaking off too much so they it wasn't still a good product even though it's a joke just like real astroturf so so they fixed it they fixed it they spent a whole year to wait again to launch it yeah and launched it and there's a verge article about actually like all the stuff they had to do like they had to like laser cut the edges which would then sort of like

melt the sides so like strands wouldn't come out and like 30% of the strands of grass are within the vinyl so it doesn't continue to fall out but it's really well done and I kind of want my laptop to be to be grass forever I kind of want that too grass laptop would be hilarious it would be a head turner showing up to the coffee shop that'd be fire to the building outside

It would blend in in the grass a little too much. I'm still getting comments about that. There's still comments about that. Anyway, that would be a good comment. There are outdoor buildings. I just want to make it clear. The Razer always does a kind of silly one, and they didn't disappoint again this year. They did the Razer Skibbity, the headset that lets you translate normal speak into online Skibbity language.

It's both ways. It's both ways. So it translates Gen Z slang into plain English and it translates your plain English into Gen Z slang. Is it like Gen Z slang or is it like brain rot? It's brain rot. Yeah. Which, you know, same thing. Same thing. It was pretty well done. They always do like

above and beyond on the actual video I thought it was gonna be cringe when I just saw the thumbnail that just said razor skibbity and I was like, oh no, but actually it was quite well done Yeah, well produced dad. Yeah. Yeah

There's also an Elgato Stream Deck desk where the entire desk was just stream deck buttons. Yeah. Which for some reason feels like something else would seem to be like, I'm in. I can control my entire computer with macro buttons. Yeah. I mean, there's a company called X-Keys that makes a product that's not

that far away from that and uh it's occurred to me a few times a couple times just every time you lean your elbow down there's like by the way ellis is back ellis is back baby let's go but yeah no more buttons is more good hard to agree too bad it's an april fool's joke i know but yeah incredible video for that by the way yeah it was blue sky changed their character limit well for one day for one day i saw that notification and i was like oh

Like I forgot that it was April Fool's Day. I was like, oh, okay, new character. Yeah. And then I had to remember. Yeah. Yeah. They went from 300 to 299. Yeah. For one day. Impressive. I wonder how many people that actually upset.

You know there's someone who had to go put like... I can't put the period in my sentence anymore. Wait, actually, so I just watched the desk trailer for the first time. There is another company that makes something shockingly similar to this called Monome. Like M-O-N-O-M-E. It's not quite as large, but this exists. If you want the stream desk, check out Monome. If you're like me.

Yeah. That you can't get enough buttons. You can finally have all the buttons. Can I wait, can I talk about the next, uh, the next one? Cause this is, this is really, so flight radar tracked a Concorde flight. They put it on air France or whatever the French carrier that used to do it. And, uh, my favorite part of that is a flight radar tweeted it. Um,

They were like, check it out. And a bunch of people really confused, not knowing it was April Fool's Day, trying to figure out if it was real or not, all went like, at Grok, at Ask Perplexity, like, is this real? And they were all just like, this is real, baby. Yeah.

- They're flying. - Maybe they were-- - They were hallucinates ever. - No, they were just in on the joke. They're so in tune with modern day human activity that Grok is April Fools in people out here. - Damn, that's good. - AI is famously good at-- - They're just doing it every day instead of only April Fools. - Nice, yeah, very nice. - Who wants to describe the nothing earbuds? 'Cause I missed that one. - Yeah, so they quote unquote launched a new set of earbuds that is very similar to the ear opens that they have,

But it has a 164-foot cable. And the idea is that you get 3.5-millimeter audio quality, but you don't have to give up on the range that you get from Bluetooth. Wait, but they also put them on their weird open ones, apparently? So you get the...

Pure quality and the headphones that don't even seal into your ear I imagine it was to make it more obvious that there was an April Fool's Day joke 50 meter cable is still hilarious. Yeah, it's honestly I'd be down I'm I'm sort of a hater of when companies make audio products They're like more expensive just because they have a balanced connection But this is the one hypothetical product that absolutely needs to balance connection the thing no like think I would love to be able to play Dota in my living room and

and be able to walk to my kitchen, grab a drink, use the bathroom, and never have to take my headphones off.

This is fair. Without using the Sonos app. I live in an apartment that has so much lead that I would never be able to have my Bluetooth connection go through both my walls. That's not... Which is the biggest downside. There's no way your walls are filled with solid lead, bro. You just have lead pipes. That's what you think. Do you know... But do you have to still be hearing when you walk to the kitchen? Well, if I'm on voice chat with a friend or something. You can't just be like...

Hey, one second. I could. Of course I could. What do you think I do now? You run the risk of doing that as the wireless headset where then you accidentally go to the bathroom to take a piss and then forget to mute it and then everyone in your voice chat. Look, this is real life, baby. You got to experience everything if you want to have my friends. Anyway, nothing. Please make this. I will buy it. Wait, David, I owe you an apology. Lead paint, it seems like can...

If you brain electromagnetic well if you eat it, but it also can Slow down. I have to tell you guys something so yesterday I was cleaning my apartment and I was putting a tripod up on this like shelf that I have my apartment But the week after I moved in the apartment above me flooded and so it like created like this crack in the ceiling and

So I was putting the tripod up and it scraped against the ceiling and a ton of lead paint and dust fell on me. And now I'm a little concerned. Don't worry. If you buy a Nintendo Switch 2, it'll fix everything. You know what? You're right. Anyway, we can move on. I just have two more quick ones. Monkey type, one of my favorite websites, just...

went to comic type so it was all comic sans and i actually thought that one did trick me because we've been using monkey type for a studio video we're doing and i was like i don't think i changed this to comic sans wait i just went back and it's still comic sans is it really april fools gotcha it's not that's the cardinal sin you can't do april fools not on april fools my bad actually wait no i was wrong again lead has no significance

effect on non-ionizing radiation. I just did not want to leave that out here. It does have a significant effect on my brain development. Yes, and ionizing radiation, but not the stuff that's in phones and routers. Sorry. It's okay. You spent too long correcting that. There's already 30 comments telling you you're wrong, so it doesn't matter. I'm over 25. My frontal lobe is developed. And the last one is NovelKeys, a keyboard website.

made the any key set. And this is a real, like you mentioned before, you like when people actually make it, this is a real GM keys, GM case that you can buy. I don't know if you guys remember the Simpson sketch, but there's an episode where he's working from home and he's on his computer and he's trying to figure out how to use it. And it says, press any key to start. And he's like,

huh, where's the any key? And then he's like, the esc key? The control key? Is that what it's for? Yeah. So you can buy a whole entire keyboard set of every single key says any key on it. Which is not too different from just the blank keycap sets for the hardcore users. I love...

the blank keyboard sets. I had a DOS keyboard back in the day with all black keys. Maybe that's why I'm decent at typing because I had to memorize where things were. I played Typing of the Dead for fun. Damn, that's right. It's on Steam. Oh my god. I know. I can't believe you did not put on this list the Duolingo Cruise. The five year Duolingo Cruise. The five year Duolingo Cruise where you visit every country and learn how to speak their language. And if you don't, if you break your streak the Duolingo Owl, like...

Shoots you down a chute out the cruise ship. Duolingo always nails it on April Fool's for sure. Yeah. Okay, let's talk about something that maybe should have been an April Fool's joke but wasn't. YouTube Shorts views change. Do you want to describe this, Marques? Yeah, okay. So YouTube Shorts...

are changing the way they count views. - All right, next. - Now it's interesting because right now when you look at YouTube Shorts, you just see the views counter and views aren't counted as soon as you open it. Views are counted when you watch a certain amount of time, just like a regular YouTube video, but that amount of time is a secret because they don't want people to be able to bot it and game it, so there's some algorithm, depending on the length of the short and the engagement, blah, blah, blah, at which point you've counted as a view.

But YouTube's announced that they're going to add now a distinction. So there's going to be two view counts essentially for shorts. One is just views that start counting the second you open a short. So an impression? So just one view. You could watch it all the way through. You could watch the first 0.3 seconds of it. But every single starting to play the short counts as a view. And then you loop it and it's another view. And then you loop it and it's another view. But engaged views...

will still be the same formulated, calculated view as before. So a short will have engaged views and it'll have views, which will be way, way, way higher probably because if you have a close rate of, let's say, 60% for a short, you'll have 60% more views

Because of how often people closed it. Is this just to distinguish if people are actually watching shorts because the algorithm just feeds you shorts non-stop and you don't really select what shorts you want to watch? Yeah, I'll be honest. I don't know what anybody gets out of this. Like, I...

When I think of who gains something from this, like YouTube maybe just gets to show way higher view numbers and they feel good about that. Whatever. I feel like Facebook made that same mistake already. Why are we doing that? And Twitter also. And Twitter shows impressions of views. Clowned on Twitter, yeah. But as a creator, like when I see a higher number of engaged views, that's still telling me the information I need to know. But a higher number of views, all that means is it was served more times than

That's what I'm saying. For short form, it's like... I didn't do anything to make it get served more times. It's just an impression. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, there's nothing... I don't think that my titles or tags or anything are making it be served more. I think once it's successful and has more engaged views, then it gets served more to more audiences, but I don't understand what I learned from...

as a creator. I don't know what I get. It's like, oh, the algorithm decided that I was lucky today. I mean, they even said that this isn't really going to impact personal creator metrics because old, what used to be views is now just what engaged views are.

is what they're calling it inside of your analytics. So like, it's not going to impact your earnings or I'm assuming your recommendations or like- Earnings through YouTube Shorts. Yeah, well, but even though just to like get into the partner program through, like it used to be X amount of views, it's now X amount of engaged views, which is the old views. So the new views are definitely just this like public facing YouTube being like,

Hey, TikTok, that person got a billion views. We also want to say that we had somebody get a billion views and look cool. I guess the question is, how does TikTok count views?

I'm assuming, I don't know. I would assume the same way because some of those numbers. But like we all collectively as creators understands that like views on platforms mean different things. Like a thousand views on YouTube probably means like. We understand that. But do regular people understand that? Because regular people see views on Twitter and just think that that's the same as views on YouTube and.

I think if you're in the industry, then you're paying for ad rates, then you have to know about the distinctions. But I think regular people probably don't. I would argue the ad rate pay people don't understand it either. Then they won't be in business for very long. But yeah, I think...

I think we have to know the difference between a view and like a full view all the way through. Like we look at like how long people watch individual videos. So we have view count, but we also have engagement numbers and metrics to sort of figure out how successful video is. This, I don't know what I get from this.

It's YouTube patting themselves on the back and being able to be like... Probably so they can sell more ads inside of their shorts player because they can be like, look how many views we're getting in this and not use impressions anymore, even though it's just the same thing. You just change the name. I guess it's just impressions. I mean, that's what Twitter did. It's what Twitter did, yeah. And we harped on Twitter pretty hard for it. Wait, I have a question. You were saying that basically...

The views to get into the partner program remain the same. Yes. Essentially. So this doesn't make it harder or easier to get into the partner program? Changes nothing. It changes nothing. What we were calling views before are now being called engaged views. And that is still what's being counted for monetary stuff, for partner program stuff. That stays the same. So basically the only thing that this tells you is how often...

you were fed into the algorithm. Yes. How often it popped up on someone's screen, essentially. Which is like, do you remember years ago when Facebook first, scrolling through your feed, if a video just popped in, they counted it as a view because Facebook wanted videos to seem more important on Facebook? It's also saying, YouTube says, this is an article from Pet Crunch.

YouTube says that it's making the change because it heard that creators want to understand how often their shorts are actually seen. The idea is that creators can now better showcase the full extent of their reach. They could do that already. It was in their analytics. But can I play devil's advocate for one sec here? No. I'm putting myself in the shoes of...

of a professional short form video creator, like only short form, right? And you have to self-advocate, sell ads for yourself. And it seems like on all the major platforms, TikTok, Instagram, X, I don't know if Blue Sky does short form video, squirrely feeds, but- - They do now. - They do now, Blue Sky. You have effectively one way of measuring your views for that, and then YouTube is on this island

And I could imagine it would disincentivize those professional creators from using YouTube as much because now all of a sudden they need to provide two one sheets, two analytics papers to their ad folk. So maybe it's just about bringing... To align with the rest of the industry. It's just evening the playing field among other misrepresented... I was going to say. I also fundamentally disagree with this, but I could see it actually...

In a weird way, being for creators. I agree with you in that the best way this helps a creator is like...

I get to bring this to third party brand and try and do a brand deal with that. But this is only going to last for X amount of time before they realize like, oh wait, these views, I'm not getting the ROI like I was. And these views are different. And now I need to change if they're smart enough. Totally. But now a creator could package all of the view numbers from all their platforms into one number and have that be a more genuine number. Because it's all counted the same way. But it still would have to hit the same on every, and there's still different levels of, we do times where like,

Even if you think TikTok and Reels are similar, like we do videos that get 50,000 on a Reel and 500,000 on a TikTok or vice versa all the time also. I still think you need to generally package your things differently. No, you're right. But also devil's devil's advocate. Devil devil. It just allows YouTube to go to advertisers and just be like,

But look, we're like, look how many views we get on our platform. Like you should advertise with us. Yeah. Impressions on long form videos have never been public.

So only the creator has been able to go into the analytics, find the impressions number, and then go to the company and go, this is how many impressions my videos are getting. As a advertiser, I don't care how many impressions you're getting. It's not helpful to me. I want to know how many people actually click on it. Because an impression is my thumbnail got showed in some search results or some browse features somewhere, and I scrolled right past it. That's an impression. Yeah.

I don't care about advertising in that video if that impression, if they didn't click. So I only care about engaged views, people who go in and click and watch the video. Do you think advertisers or brands that want to work with creators know the distinction? No.

I guess I thought they did, and I think to be a good one, you have to, but maybe not all of them care. Here's a little inside baseball. Okay. I know a lot of people who work for agencies that work for brands, and the brand just tells the agency, get me this much reach. They don't care about...

what's technically correct. They don't care about, you know, because the agency just needs to hit the quota and they don't necessarily worry about, will this actually have influence? Will this actually have real reach? I can just put a number on a sheet and then I get paid. The more you abstract away the person who actually wants the result, the

the less it matters whether or not that result is real. So now YouTube's back in the playing field for all those who just want the numbers. I mean, considering most of the advertising world is run by agencies and people who are not being directly paid to get more views. I just think that number will change with this change because they're going to realize eventually, like, we're aiming for this number because in our minds it equals...

x return on investment and now that number is not getting us the same amount of return on investment anymore so we need to bump that number higher but the rest of the industry has been true about the rest so like will they realize it or will they just keep getting the views and then moving on with their lives i think that's that's their job probably the more likely i mean then people are going to lose a lot of money but i also agree that i think most agencies and companies and companies are using social media really poorly and have yeah because if you just have a job and you're just working for someone and they just give you a quota you're just going to hit the

You don't have like a personal incentive to actually have influence. I yeah, I still think this is stupid and YouTube made a mistake on well and and

It's just an impression. - But also think about from YouTube's perspective where if literally everyone else is lying to everybody and then YouTube looks like they suck as a platform, what are you supposed to do? - Every marketer is getting paid to hit one million impressions. And so if you're a marketer and you're getting paid to hit a million impressions and you're gonna go pay and get a bunch of ads, where am I gonna go? I'm gonna go to TikTok and Reels and the ones that have the highest numbers.

So this puts YouTube back on the map for them to spend money? Even though they're lying. Even though they're all lying the same way now, at least they're back in the playing field. Do you think there's a reason, and this can be the last note on this because we've probably gone too off-bat, but is there a reason we get this... Wait, wait, wait, wait. Nintendo Switch 2, Nintendo Switch 2. Thanks for keeping everyone engaged for one more second. I just like, have you noticed we don't ever remember any of these marketers or anything because they probably all go out of business in like two years because they're all basically just...

doing really poorly for the companies by promising this stupid shit. Yeah, none of us love agencies. Dude, we'll get like 10 different agencies in two years reach out for the same company because they're all terrible and all playing the game wrong. So is that really a benefit now?

I don't know. It's stupid. We live in a society. YouTube, you guys are doing great already. You don't need to fake shit like this to... But shareholder value. Shareholder value. Do you want the boat to sink? Get Ben. Yeah, do you? Sorry. I don't know why this made me so mad. Do you just remember our numbers on Twitter videos? It said you had like 5 million views and 4.9 million of them X'd out in the first one second or something.

It makes no sense to count that as a view. But I'm the only one who saw that number. Most agencies, though, do request analytic screenshots afterwards. So I think they'll catch on to it sooner than later. We shall see. Moving on, Nintendo Switch 2. Actually, no, not Nintendo Switch 2. Just a couple other small things that weren't actually that small, but we'll just talk about them briefly. $33 billion small thing.

In a what is most likely a reshuffling of money and investor capital in order to get an easier way to raise money, XAI has acquired X, which is just a fancy way of saying nothing. I feel like that kid in the David Blaine sketch where he does the coin trick and makes it disappear off the top of his hand and he stares at it for a few seconds and just goes...

Cool. That's my reaction to this headline. Yeah, I think all of this just has to do with the ability for X to keep running and raising capital because now if X is owned by XAI, XAI can easily raise capital. X cannot easily raise capital because of all the problems they've gone through and how they're over leveraged on Tesla shares.

So it kind of seems just like a way to keep X running because it's super easy to raise XAI capital. Forbes was reporting, and this is like a, I think I agree with you, but the other small part of the story is that this makes it easier for Grok to get trained on Twitter user data. Which they were already doing. But now it's more in line with US privacy laws now that they technically own all that user data. I will not comment. Cool. Awesome.

Cool. Okay, we'll move on. Something else AI is screwing up. Yeah. So you guys might have seen over the weekend there was a big thing that happened where everybody started making themselves Ghiblified because OpenAI released their image generation model that is built into ChatGPT that is much more realistic and way better. It's the 4.0 model. So it's the deep thinking model. And it just...

It just kind of caught fire that people started making themselves into a Studio Ghibli kind of character. Yeah, you'd like upload a photo and say, can you make this in like a Studio Ghibli animation style? So Sam Altman tweeted, the ChatGPT launched 26 months ago was one of the craziest viral moments I'd ever seen. And we added 1 million users in five days. We added 1 million users in the last hour. That was over the weekend because of the amount of people who wanted to do this because the 4.0 model,

at first was just released to OpenAI Plus subscribers, and then they released it to everyone later. So everyone just wanted to make Studio Ghibli versions of themselves. This is highly ironic because Studio Ghibli's creator notably hates AI-based animation and famously said that it was an insult to life itself. If you haven't seen that video, I showed it to Marques, like explaining this to him the other day. It's so cool.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was from a documentary. I think it came out in 2016, something like that. But I will say, in their defense, although I do agree with Miyazaki, but the clip that they showed him that AI made was really grotesque. It was for a horror movie. And he was like, why would anyone want to do this? I think he literally says, if you want to make creepy shit, go do it somewhere else. I'm never putting this in my films. Something like that.

It's weird. I've seen both sides of this on my timeline. I know it's hard to believe there's two sides, but side number one is using AI to create art, stealing from the studio art, like not asking permission, all the negatives of it. And the other side was, honestly, it's pretty good. Actually, the way I saw it, the way I saw it was- Counterpoint. I posted-

The last video, we had this really cool thumbnail that Tim made, which was the ChatGPT logo falling out of the iPhone and Apple Intelligence and talking about that stuff. And I posted the before and after of the idea behind it and then the final result. And a lot of people were like,

"Oh, I thought you made this with AI." And then they started trying to make it with AI themselves. And they were like, "Yeah, I could have made that with AI. "Here's a version with AI. "Here's a bunch of versions I just made with AI." And they weren't very good, but that is a real person that exists that's like, "Whatever, I could just make it with AI." Not everybody has access to a team, Marques. You gotta just be able to make art for free and cheap. And at a certain point,

It's gonna be faster and better, so you might as well just get on board with AI anyway. I saw that crowd on Twitter too. So I'm not shocked that this blew up and people were all entertaining themselves by just making Studio Ghibli versions of whatever they could think of, memes, famous videos, famous movies, whatever. But yeah, that was an interesting narrative. What I did enjoy was there was a lot of people who

were like making art of themselves and then people were like quote tweeting them and being like this you and it was like their last tweet from two days ago being like I can't believe this person stole my video clip and used it for this yeah that was that was quite funny if you think

Studio Ghibli movies are so moving because Miyazaki draws really good. You're missing the point. Like, like, that's great that you can use a robot to poop out something that looks like it was drawn by him. But if you think that that is the same as, like making something as like touching as those films are like,

Go for it. But you're totally going to replace artists. You're going to do such a good job out there. I did see someone make a point, though, saying, you know, yes, you can make these AI cartoons in like seconds now. But it took that studio decades of work to get to that point.

So this isn't gonna be the case like forever like you still need artists doing their thing I think that's a super fair point in a lot of things is how long it takes to get somewhere because I think a lot of people even and you know what we do are like how come Marquez can make a 15 minute video and it can make all this money because he's dedicated 17 years of his life to getting to this point with that audience like there's always more to it than just

the initial output in that time. Yeah, and also originality is missing. Like when you train something on something existing, you can make derivative work, but you can't, I guess by definition, can't make original work. It's always trained on something. What would be cooler as a gift? A picture of you in Studio Ghibli form that was

drawn by the creator or by AI. Like one of those is going to touch you a little, a little more. Yeah. I think that one's impossible to get, but that's like a very deep conversation in sort of the artificial intelligence community. It's like, aren't people also just combinatorics of things that they've experienced and learned? Uh, that's the whole thing.

That's the whole argument. That's the devil's advocate. That's the devil's advocate. But we've got to talk about Nintendo Switch 2, so we don't have time to get into that. Yeah. Nintendo Switch 2 trivia? Nintendo Switch 2 ad break? Trivia break? And then we'll do Nintendo Switch 2 trivia. Oh, if they sponsored this episode, that would have been awesome. Nintendo? I guess we couldn't talk about it then. We couldn't do that. That'd be unethical. That would be bad. Yeah. Yeah.

We would never do that. But you know what we would do? Nintendo Switch 2? Bring Ellis back from Mexico with an absolute banger of a trivia question. Hit the air horn. Let's go. All right. So we had a bunch of great April Fool's jokes from companies this year. None that were super annoying, which was really nice. But I have in front of me four April Fool's jokes from tech companies in years prior. And you need to tell me which one I, Ellis, made up.

The first one, Tesla goes bankrupt. April Fool's Day, 2018. Elon literally tweeted an announcement of Tesla's bankruptcy. He did that. B, Google mic drop from 2016. Google added a feature to Gmail. So there's the send button and then there's the send with mic drop button right next to it. When you hit the send with mic drop button, the whole point of it was they said it will be the way to have

the last message in any email chain. And when you hit the send with mic drop button, you know, it adds a gif of a minion dropping a mic to your email. And unfortunately, they removed the feature before the end of the day because so many people were hitting it accidentally because surprise, the average Gmail user does not read the Google blog. That made that made the world better.

I would pay extra for that. Even though that is super cringe and super Google thing to do, I would love to see the amount of corporate emails that accidentally do that. So enterprise and education users did not get the feature for that exact reason. Allegedly, if it's real. Allegedly, if it's real. I mean, I pretend like it's real for all these until the end. You've done this before. C, Hulu launches a new service called Who for eight second clips of their shows.

People have actually launched that before. We've heard it. It's called Wubi. It's called Thubu. Wait, that's a real one. We got tagged in one the other day that was like, every time you guys make one up, another one comes out. It was Mubi. Mubi? Yeah, but Mubi has been out for a while. Okay, and the last one, D, the Nikon D5100 selfie mode from 2011. So the iPhone 4 had just come out.

First iPhone with a selfie camera. People were really, really into it. So for April Fool's Day, they announced that their D5100, the mirror was getting an extra 45 degrees of tilt, allowing light from the viewfinder to hit the sensor, effectively giving it a selfie camera. With like two photons total. That's pretty funny. Interesting. That's pretty funny. Damn. Okay. So I got to think of which one is made up because the rest are real. Yeah.

Well, we'll think about it. Answers will be at the end, like usual. We'll be right back. Nintendo Switch 2.

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All right, welcome back to the Nintendo Switch 2 podcast. We've got some Nintendo Switch 2 to talk about, believe it or not. Surprisingly. This week, Nintendo fully unveiled detailed Switch 2 specs, games, compatibility, features, accessories, a whole bunch of stuff, price tag, release date that we hadn't known. So it's all out there now. And people can decide now really if they're going to spend their money on the Switch 2. It was never an option for me.

I mean, you were always going to spend the money. That's unfortunate. But now you know how much money you're in for. It is the... Because they could have said any number. Because now it's a little more than I want to spend, but if it was a lot more than I wanted to spend, I'd have been like, well, that's how it is. Well, for those wondering, $449. If you were somehow under a rock...

If you're a gamer, you cannot afford this. I'm sorry. If you were under a rock the past couple days, because didn't we see like a million concurrent streams on the Nintendo Switch? It was just the US one. 1.2 million concurrent on YouTube during the live stream today. For only the Nintendo US. There was Nintendo UK, which also had like 200,000 viewers. They just said, Nintendo Switch 2 in it?

That was the whole thing. I think they used pounds, probably. That's the only way it was. The day we're recording this, so look, I'm trying to immerse myself back in the Switch one and really get ready to make this video, but we're recording this on Wednesday, and I'm planning on making a Switch 2 hands-on video tomorrow, on Thursday. I'm so jealous. And I'm doing this because...

lots of people are asking about the Switch 2. It's clearly very popular. But I've been trying to figure out how many people are going to watch the Switch 2 video, and I think now it's gonna be a lot. - It's gonna be 15 million. - No, no, no, it's not gonna be that crazy. I mean, the last crazy video that was kind of like the same vibes was the PS5, 'cause it's every,

seven years or something crazy. - Like eight years. - And so all the hype gets built up and then we unboxed the PS5 and it had like 10 million views in two days or something. - Minimum 15 million. - It had a million, this is the only video I've ever made that had a million views in the first hour. - This will get that. - PlayStation 5 unboxing. - This will get that.

So I don't think it's going to be that much. I don't know if it'll be quite as much. But it should still be interesting to see how many people are talking about PS5 this week. PS5 also came out 2020. So at the end of COVID, there was so much going on. Everyone's online. That gained 100,000 subscribers just from that video. Yeah. It was crazy. And we made it at 8 o'clock at night. Yeah, it was just the unboxing. I couldn't even turn it on or do anything. I just unboxed it. This will do that.

So this is the hands-on, but what we learned this week was all the details of all the new things with Switch 2 versus Switch 1. So the price tag is one of them. It's $449. From there, I mean, some basic spec improvements. We don't have like CPU, GPU details, but we have a larger screen, obviously, with a thinner bezel. It's still the same thickness of a console, so it'll just kind of feel like flat and bigger. I love that. It's

it's a 1080p 120 hertz display it's an lcd 7.9 inches 7.9 inch hdr support 120 hertz i i love that look everyone says you don't notice 120 hertz versus 60 that is not even does anyone say that yeah because every every time we talk about the iphone it's i'm like it's 60 hertz i can't believe it's still 60 hertz and then all the internet goes nobody can tell anyway and now the switch 2 comes out and everyone's like yeah 120 hertz i've been waiting for this the biggest

- That's probably the iPhone. - So which is it? - It's like the home screen that's 120 hertz on the iPhone and like most apps are still 60. That's the problem. - No, no, no, most apps are 120. It's like the mapping apps are still 60 and like a couple, but most of the apps are 122. And I noticed that with scrolling through everything and like moving around the UI. - Maybe it's a screen size thing.

Yeah, I mean, on this big of a screen, you got to go 120. I'm just like, for all the people who have been yelling about how nobody notices the difference between 60 and 120, I better not see you buying a Switch 2 for this feature, okay? But it has 120 now, so there you go. It'll do 4K out to the dock to a TV, so that's awesome too. 4K 60. 4K 60. Okay, that is reasonable though because most TVs do not go over 60 hertz. Most of your TVs are 4K 60. I know there are some, but most of them don't.

Yeah. That you should turn off. But that's good to see. But the other big new thing, I think, with the Switch 2, aside from that stand, which I think is nice, is the new Joy-Cons. The new controllers are massively updated. First of all, I think my favorite feature is the magnets, how they connect to the side. How they work. How the magnets work. Yeah. The SLDL buttons. Sorry, SLDL.

SLSR? The buttons. SLSR. Those buttons at the top are much bigger. They're also made of steel metal that interacts directly with the magnets inside of the Switch 2, which is how they stay connected. That's how they work, yeah. So they double function as buttons and connecting with...

with magnets. Unfortunately, we thought that there was going to be a polarity switcher. It is much simpler than that. It is a piece of plastic that pushes it off of it, which is fine. Totally fine. It is fine. They're also, they have like bigger, bigger buttons. They added a button, which is the C button, which is how we can talk about that software feature. I think the Joy-Cons in general being bigger, just like it,

It was always so cool you could break a controller to have two controllers, but they were always ergonomically horrible. And you needed to put that extra little wrist wrap bigger button connector onto it where this looks way better to play with.

horizontally detached by itself. It also has mouse support, so they kept doing this thing where they turned it sideways and put it on a table, and I suppose there's an optical sensor in it, so you can do things like moving it around, rotating, and there are games that support mouse control with the Joy-Cons. I haven't

Thought that that was a good idea yet, but I want to try it They were showing a golf game where you could like move the putter around. Yeah, this is cool Kind of feels like the most gimmicky part of the switch. Yeah to me Yeah, I think my overall take with the switch is they didn't miss on any of the things that we were hoping for But then some of the extra stuff on top is like, oh, okay interesting I will take gimmicks on top of everything we want it like I'm mad at gimmicks when they

didn't give us something that we asked for. But if they gave us the 4K bigger screen, 120, all of that stuff, and then give me a gimmick, cool. Like the PS5 controller triggers that have the different feedback, it's not in that many games. It's kind of gimmicky. But you had everything else on the console. So I was pumped about it. I wish more games supported that. I'm less pumped about the mouse thing than the PS5 controller trigger. Huge quality of life update. Extra USB-C port on the top.

As someone who is just using their switch for the first time in a while a couple of days ago And it's dead it is extremely hard to use at all while it is charging because that's charged from the bottom Yeah, so if you're not playing docked it's hard so now you can plug it in from the top that can also be used to Plug in different accessories like the camera which we will talk about later. Yeah one more thing on on

In terms of if you're playing it standing up on your thing, the new kickstand has multiple different angles that it can adjust to as well, which is really awesome. The Switch OLED had a new kickstand too that was way better, and it was made of metal. That was very cool. With the same amount of things as the new one? It went down very, very far, kind of like a Surface Pro. Awesome. Yeah, these new accessories are interesting. Like we said, it has two USB-C ports, so it can be docked, and then on that top USB-C port, you can plug in the Switch 2 camera,

And basically the way I feel like I was watching this video and Nintendo's just acknowledging that the Switch is a very social console and there are people who have Switches who are not in the same place and they can still take advantage of all playing the same game.

and making it feel as social as possible. We're all used to Zoom and being on these little video squares and we all see each other. So you point this camera at yourself and a lot of Switch 2 games will actually have a feature built in where it will include your picture over your video game stream as you're playing the game. So if you're playing a game, you can see other people playing the same game or different games at the same time. You have a microphone on the top. You can chat with your friends. You can see your friends.

Apparently it's got AI noise cancellation, so if other noises are happening in the room and the Switch is across the room, it can still pick up your voice. So it's a more social experience. You don't just see the character on the screen, you see your friends with the camera. - Like a big part of the camera is this new feature called Game Chat, which is included if you have Switch Online, but you have to pay for it, unfortunately. - Free for a year? - You get the free first year. - Yeah, after the beginning of next year.

But basically what this lets you do, like you were kind of talking about, is it will show your main screen on your screen, but then it also shows the screens of your friends that you're playing with. And the cool thing, like you mentioned, is that you can be playing the same game and

And it'll show their games at the bottom. You can also be playing different games. And if you have the camera, it does this sort of like AI cutout thing where it cuts out your head and like stitches it to the corner. And so it can show your reactions while you're playing Mario Kart or Mario Party. And I think that that is really, really important. Like during COVID, when everyone's playing like Animal Crossing together and Super Smash Bros together and stuff,

you didn't really have that party experience from like being in person with people and like seeing their reactions. And like that's a huge part of the fun of gaming with people. And so being able to actually see their reactions in their faces is very, very cool.

In Mario Party, it's one step further where generally you would have like the little circle next to your character that would show your avatar. Now it just shows straight up your face and your camera. So like attached to your character playing Mario Party, your face is there. Yeah.

That's an awesome way of doing it. I mean, everyone who plays games on the computer, they're used to having Discord and party chat. I know PlayStation's incorporated Discord, but this is a first-party voice chat all set up inside your system already. And now that you have a camera, you can either play Mario Kart, see everyone's reactions on the bottom of the screen like a Zoom call.

inside of everything yeah was brilliant it's so awesome i think it's it's the closest thing that you can do to actually being in person with people and playing with them and on in your living room and not having to set up a zoom call on the side which which i've done i'm sure all of us have done it's pretty annoying it sucks yeah yeah now they also showed us feature where if you and a friend are both local and you both have a switch then you can share a game that only one of you has to the other switch so you can play it at the same time with

them. Now they showed this kind of like basic like sort of backgammon looking game. So I would like to be I'm interested in what other games will end up supporting this but the idea is okay I have a Switch I have this game I want you to play with me but I don't want to break my controller off and hand it to you and we play on this tiny screen because you also have a Switch. Right. So I will share this

essentially some files, some part of the game with your Switch. We're both local. We're on the same network. Now we're both playing on our own Switch, but in the same game. Yeah. I think that's cool too. I think that's very cool. And we'll see what games end up supporting it. And then the other thing that was kind of big to me, because I've had my Switch for a while. I have a 32 gig Switch and I didn't buy a micro SD card. So I have three games on my Switch.

The base storage is 256 gigs now instead of 32. Marques tried updating the games the other day and it just froze. It said you can update two of the games. Pick two. Because the third one, not enough space for that. Wow. But now you can put way more games on the Switch. Now the question that we don't... We have a lot of unknowns with the Switch and I'll start to go through those. We don't know how big the new Switch 2 games will be.

So 256 gigs is great, but I also assume that Switch 2 games are gonna be bigger 'cause they're higher fidelity and they have more graphics and that might still only be room for three games. - Yeah. - But yes, there is still micro SD express support. You need a faster card 'cause you can still put a card in. - It's a different card, yeah.

So that's one. Number two, I haven't heard or read much about battery life. It's still as thin as it was. I assume the battery is a similar size. I don't know if the battery will be significantly better or worse. It's taller. It is bigger. It's a larger screen. So anytime you have a bigger screen and a bigger battery, you end up kind of canceling some of that out. So I don't know if they've made any announcements regarding like fast charging or having a significantly better battery in any way, but I'm wondering about that. Yeah.

Yeah, I think it will have better battery life because usually bigger screen bigger battery the battery still has an edge like if you look at like the iPhone max You know, it's a bigger screen, but there's a bigger battery and it usually has better battery then I guess this one is so much bigger and brighter Potentially. Yeah, and higher refresh rate and the games. Yeah, because they added a they also added a fan to the dock So they're kind of acknowledging it's gonna get hotter. Yeah, so so TBD on that. Yeah, I

I guess those are the two main unknowns for me. Also things like durability, Joy-Con drift, any issues that might come up, we'll see. - Yeah, the question is like, are these Hall Effect Joy-Cons? That would be a good question because-- - They didn't say those words. - People were making like Hall Effect mods to the Joy-Cons before,

because the Joy-Con drift was like a major issue. I assume Nintendo would have kind of tackled that problem. - They had to know about it, so I hope so. - Oh my God, they've known about it for a very long time. So hopefully they tackled that. They didn't mention anything about it specifically though, which is interesting. - And then yeah, we'll see what games come out for it. 'Cause there will be kind of as they mentioned, there will be Switch 2 games, which will have all the optimization. They'll take advantage of the camera if you have one and all these cool features.

If you get Switch 1 games, some of them will be compatible, and then some of them will get updated Switch 2 versions of them, which will, again, take advantage of the features. Well, you have to pay. You have to buy an upgrade pack, I think it's called. Which I do not like very much. I think that was the biggest L of the announcement, although we don't know pricing. Hey, wait a minute. I don't know where this is being incorporated into the episode, but it is Thursday. I have Ellis sitting next to me. What's up?

When we recorded this directly after the event, not everything was out. One pretty big piece of news came out and that is Mario Kart World will be $80 for the online version and $90 for the physical copy.

There's also some weird thing about physical copies. There's a lot more we're discovering, but I just wanted to put that out there. We did not know these pricings. No, we did not. So the rest of the conversation, understand that. And next week, I'm sure we will learn so much more about pricing and the Switch 2. And we'll...

update everything next week. Seems like there's also some Ray Tracy stuff coming out and some digital versus physical store download in the cartridge. We don't know if the cartridges still taste bad. Please enjoy the rest of our Switch 2 discussion and just know that we were still in the dark when we had this conversation. But now we see the light and next week we will share that light with you.

Next week for switch to the switching There's there's big updates and there's small updates like there's games that got a whole new world that you can play in But then there's like the Zelda games which have better fidelity basically It's like brighter HDR support and and like higher resolution, but you have to buy that and

Yeah, so I'm wondering how much of a difference those updated versions of the games will actually make. Is it just fidelity? And like, yeah, how much is it? If it was like $5 to $10, I think that's understandable. But if it was like $20, that seems like it's pushing. $20 would be tough. Yeah.

What? So pricing wise, the only thing we didn't mention is I think the camera's 50 bucks, you said? Yes, the camera's $50. Okay. The console is $449 and there's a bundle with that and a new Mario Kart game called Mario Kart World, which is $500. So you're basically paying $50. Yeah, but it looks like a sick game. But what do we think pricing wise on that? $449. So the original Switch, way back when it launched, was $299 at launch. Yeah.

Considering how much better this one is, how much bigger the screen is, inflation, a bunch of other factors, and now it's 2025, I'm not mad at 4.49, to be honest. That's just me. I think some people will think about, I'm going to buy the Switch, and then how many games am I going to buy, and then how much total am I spending? And then you kind of have to think more about that. But I'm not mad at the 4.49. I think it's,

quite a lot. It's high. It's not absurd to me. I'm not surprised by it. I was hoping it was going to be $399. But I still think it fits in that slot of not, correct me if I'm wrong, not as expensive as a PS5 or the new Xbox. It still slots in under those more expensive game consoles.

Maybe I'm wrong on that. Although I guess at this point it's out years and years after those two launched. PS5 Slim is $500. So if you get it with the bundle, it's the same price as the PS5 Slim.

the switch one was 2017 yeah i know it's been it's been eight years eight years and it's gone up 150 total ps5 is 4.99 yeah and the digital editions with no disk drives 3.99 so yeah it's more expensive than those they did come out earlier yeah it's like kind of a tougher price but also we all know

It's not going to deter anybody from buying it that was interested in buying it. I mean, a big seller for Nintendo is the parents who buy it for their kids at Christmas. And the difference between...

a $300 console. Oh yeah, but none of us thought it was going to be $300, right? No, but I thought maybe $379 because yes, it's much better in every way, but it's also been eight years. So it's a lot easier to buy a 256 gig NAND chip to put in the device. It probably costs the same or probably actually less than it costs them to put a 32 gig chip in it eight years ago.

- So I'm, yeah, very curious about the new screen. I wanna look at this new screen. I wanna see how much better it actually looks. I appreciate the 4K 120 or the 1080 120. Thank you. But yeah, we'll kind of have to be a judge. We're again recording this before I get that hands-on and I'll sort of try to detail that in the video. So if you guys haven't already watched that video, by the time this podcast comes out, that video should also be out. So check out the hands-on video. - There's no embargo on the hands-on? - Nope, it's just going right up. - That's insane. - Yeah, should be fun.

But yeah, that's Nintendo Switch 2, Nintendo Switch 2, Nintendo Switch 2. Mario Kart World looked pretty sweet. So I've mostly not played a lot of Mario Kart, but it seems like the open world concept is a big difference versus the original Mario Kart. Like Mario Kart, you kind of get people who just like memorize exactly how they play certain maps and then you just go crazy. Where the gameplay that they were showing and these people were just being very social about just like,

driving around just seeing what's happening not really racing as much which is interesting there's a couple things where one's called free roam where you can just roam around the maps and like take photos with your friends and stuff which is like if you're really into it that's cool does that Mario Kart I thought what's cool is so like one of the ways you play normal Mario Kart is a Grand Prix where you play four different maps that are all in one but

It used to segment them into you play Rainbow Road and then you play whatever map. And now you drive between them inside of the Grand Prix, which is really cool. And then there's another one called Knockout, I believe. Because in this game, you can have up to 24 players on a map, which is the most they've ever had. But they kind of have it. It's not within the Grand Prix. They showed it quickly. It seems like there's a map of all the different racetracks and...

they take a large chunk of racetracks, you drive and you drive between them. And then there's checkpoints within the racetracks where it'll knock out like eight people in the first one. So if you're not within the top 16, as you hit that, you get knocked out. And then, so you drive further and further and further in these longer and longer tracks.

of different maps sequenced together and then until one person's left at the end, which I think sounds really cool. It's the chase. The chase. That sounds fun. That's how the NASCAR playoffs work. When they first introduced that system, they called it the chase. Except imagine if they drove from Talladega to Daytona in between. Yeah.

That would be kind of sick. Not, not going to lie. They can in fact go 500 miles. So yeah, they just don't turn right very well. And they could go. That's not true. That's such a third of the season has right turns. Yeah. But they, they set up those cars a certain way for certain tracks. So just, you know, be careful on those city streets. I'm just saying. Yeah. There's something else there. They're releasing this game called Nintendo switch to welcome tour and

Yeah, this is a pretty big L from me because you have to buy it. Oh, you have to buy it? That's the only thing I have a problem with. It should have been free. Yeah, I mean, the Wii came with Wii Sports. And the PS5 came with Astro's World. Did it come with Astro's World? You got that for free. I don't... I think they released an Astro Bot bundle later. Astro Bot was the game that was announced after. Astro World was the one that came free on the first PlayStation. You're right. Was it really called that?

Astro's Playroom. Astro's Playroom. Yeah, I was going to be like, that is the Travis Scott. That's why I said we are Astro's Playroom on the PlayStation 5. But that was the same thing. It was like a demo. You get all the strings. I think it's important to be able to show users all the benefits of the console that they're playing. And I think that they made this game

Like the welcome tour game actually looks very cool where you run you run around a giant Nintendo switch to Nintendo switch to Nintendo switch to PlayStation did and you basically just like you look at the different parts of the console and it tells you really interesting tidbits about it and it teaches you how to use the mouse and all this stuff.

Why would you have to pay for that? That makes no sense. Like you release Wii Sports for free with the Wii, which is one of the most iconic games of all time. And then you have to buy the basically like glorified demo guide of how to use the console. Like that's crazy. Is it going to be, do they say a price?

They didn't. They just said it was a paid digital game. I just think that's a huge. It should have just come. It should have come built into the console. That's a big miss. Who's going to buy that? I would never have bought Astro's Playroom, but because of how good it was, I learned a lot about what it was capable of and then went on to go get games that I thought would take advantage

It teaches you the new feature and if I didn't have Astro's playroom, I would not have learned a lot of that stuff Yeah, so being free being included being easy to access would have been awesome for the yeah other things They just released or they're going to release this new game that takes advantage of the mouse control It's sort of a combination between basketball and also you're in a wheelchair and it's a whole thing rocket league in wheelchair It's rocket league with wheelchairs and basketball. Oh

Which is interesting, but it's not using existing IP and it's focused on the mouse control. And I think that it is more beneficial to release existing IP that uses new play interaction because it gets people to do it. Like when The Legend of Zelda Skyward, not Skyward Sword, Star Wars.

Don't get this wrong. Twilight Princess came out. They released it concurrently on the GameCube and the Wii. And the whole thing that was beneficial for the Wii was that you could use the motion controls to kind of use Link's sword. And so they released this new IP that teaches you how to use the motion controls and really plays into the motion control thing. And that's awesome because people are going to freaking play Zelda anyway.

But they're not planning, like people are not planning on buying this game that's like Rocket League with wheelchairs and basketball. You know what I mean? It's just kind of a random. It makes the most sense of how they work because if they need to be flat down on a table and pushed on both sides, it's like the two wheels of a wheelchair and you can like wave to get the ball passed to you and.

stuff like that you're right though i don't think a lot of people are gonna play yeah or it's gonna yeah be like an instant cult classic and everyone's maybe obsessed with it yeah i don't think that's what's gonna happen but it could maybe that's probably what they're hoping for um they talked about a bunch of different games does everyone want to pick like one they saw that they liked that they liked okay oh wait oh i'll get there anyway uh kirby air riders oh yeah

But, okay. Kirby Air Ride was a GameCube game that encapsulated much of my childhood. It was so much more than a game. It was more than a game. It was an epoch. It was an epoch. It was an epoch. There's core memories burned into my brain of sitting in my living room playing that game for hours on end with my friends. So, Kirby Air Riders I'm extremely excited for. There's one that just...

It felt like they were trying to hit me in the nostalgia personally. It was a new Tony Hawk game and they're showing it and I'm like, I remember Tony Hawk. I don't know if I would have that much fun anymore. And then within the last three seconds of the gameplay, they're just like SpongeBob level and then cut. And it was like Tony Hawk.

I was like, what are you doing? Just like out of nowhere. He's just like in bikini bottom. They know their core audience. They're like people that play pro skater were also SpongeBob fans. So here you go. That is a solid overlap. That is very smart of them. I see NBA 2K is coming. So I'm curious to play that. We'll see how that is. On the airplane? Yeah. Well, I won't be playing online, but I'm a big my career guy. So I could play anywhere.

Six hour flight? Trust me, I'm on that grind. I'm going to be developing my player. Were the games that you guys were excited for? Pokemon ZA, baby. Did you ever play Arceus? Legends Arceus? No. Oh, well. It's the other one. Pokemon ZA? That's what it's called? It's Pokemon Z to A. I don't know, man. It's Japan.

What is Project 007? It's a James Bond game. They showed very little. It literally was just like the opening looking down the barrel 007 scene. And it just said like 007, the world's most famous hitman or assassin. Because Hot Take, I thought the Wii release of Goldeneye, it wasn't like a remaster. It was like kind of its own thing. It was one of my favorite Wii games. Really? Yeah. So if they can do this right.

I'm pretty into it. Also, I apologize if any of you heard Zuri snoring. It's hard to wake up a cute puppy. I didn't hear it at all. Perfect. Don't wake her up. We've done it twice. How dare you? But possibly one of the biggest announcements...

Gamecube is coming to switch online For a small fee. Well as part of such online. Yeah, I mean, that's the last console that I played a lot of Like I had a friend actually my friend who had the game who had the Gamecube also had a Nintendo Wii but that Gamecube does have some little bit of nostalgia in my heart people a little bit people have been asking for them to add this for so long and

And so you're going to be able to play Wind Waker. You're going to be able to play Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness. Original Kirby Air Ride. Potentially original Kirby Air Ride. Super Monkey Ball. There's just, there's so many. Wave Race. I'm just, I'm... SSX Tricky. Ugh!

So many good games. They're also releasing a GameCube controller that is wireless that can hook up to the console so you can play those GameCube games more natively. They could charge $4.49 for that and it would fly off the shelves still. Yeah, true. And then it also has an additional C button to do the community chat stuff.

So I'm very excited for that. I just want to relive my childhood. Have you ever played any of the Civ games? Civ? Civilization. Oh, I thought you said Sim. Nope. I guess I'm an idiot and never realized they were on console, but they showed Civ VI and...

like the it sounds i i'm hoping the console controls are good because rotting on my couch and playing civilization sounds like the greatest thing ever because doing it in your chair and when it's 5 a.m you're back starting to hurt but if it's 5 a.m and i'm just lounging on the couch with a nice blanket dude according to wikipedia it's on android oh my god don't tell me that i'll get nothing done

Dude. Those are great. You should play them. I think you would like that game. It's super low-key. You can play as much or as little as you want, and by as little, I mean as much as you want. We'll see how much storage I end up with. I'll try that. That'll be one of my first few games on the Switch, too. Literally all of the games that are coming for the GameCube are just my childhood, just wrapped in one. This is the most... Super Mario Sunshine, Chibi-Robo, Pokemon XD, Guild of Darkness, Super Mario Strikers...

- Ugh. - If they wanna hit me in the nostalgia personally, I'm gonna need Truck Simulator.

18 wheels of steel. Are you serious? 18 wheels of steel. I think they do have that on Switch. I hope Marquez plays Truck Simulator with the split Joy-Con horizontal. Only those controls. No, I'm just using the Joy-Con on mouse control and I'm just using the wheel like this. Oh, yo, it's the shift. It's the manual shift with the mouse control. And I have to get in. So you have nostalgia for Truck Simulator? Yes, sir. I'm just like shocked. As someone who also plays really boring games, I did not...

No, bro, I customized the heck out of my truck. I was going cross country. You guys are broken human beings. I don't understand why you would. Oh, we've evolved. We've evolved. I had no idea. Yeah. I've never even heard of this game.

Nintendo will get there. Oh, there's Tractor Simulator. There's Truck Simulator. Farm Simulator. Goat Simulator. Switch 2. Anyway. Nintendo Switch 2. No, this has been fun. Hey, watch the video if you haven't already. Check out the hands-on. Let us know your thoughts in the comments section. Switch 2. Switch 2. Switch 2. Switch 2. Nintendo. Trivia time.

Can you ask them if you can have an additional person follow you into the room? Yeah, for no reason. Can I keep it? Did we mention that it launches... June 5th. June 5th, 2025. And pre-orders begin in one week of time of recording, which is the 9th of April. But...

If you have had a Switch Online subscription for one year and you have 50 hours of playtime on the Switch, you'll get an early access pre-order invite for April 8th, which your boy meets the requirements for. I think that's...

I think that's super reasonable. That can also deter a lot of people from trying to flip this. I wonder how many people that trims out. 50 hours. Well, it trims out people who have never played the Switch before that just want to try and make a ton of money off of it. And you have had to pay a subscription because you would have to have paid the subscription for a year before today.

So nobody can game the system now. I think that's very smart. It's going to be the hardcore people are going to be able to buy it right away, which I think is awesome. Someone's going to have to sell their account that has all the requirements so that the bots can get in. Your boy is selling his. If you want it, you know where to find me. Taking bids right now. $1,000. $4.51.

Oh my god. Trivia. Yeah. Alright. Next question. What Nintendo Switch game? Nintendo Switch 2, Nintendo Switch 2, Nintendo Switch 2. But we also briefly mentioned Mario. Fun fact. Mario's first appearance was not in a Mario game. What game was it?

Sounds like, isn't this, was it Mickey Mouse? Like, this is the Mickey Mouse lore. Yeah, it's the Mario lore. The Mario movie, right? Yeah, it's the Mario movie. That's the first time we ever saw Mario. The first time we ever saw Mario was in Steamboat Willie. I definitely don't know this one. Yeah, he was the villain in Steamboat Willie. He was trying to plumb the ocean so that the ship would sink. Oh, wait, I actually do know this. The shareholder value didn't hold it up anymore. Nice.

There's a point that you guys get and I don't. All right. Well, hey, we got one more section after the break. Be right back. We'll be right back.

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An article was published about future Meta smart glasses plans. Maybe not even that far in the future. Maybe this year. It's coming out with smart glasses, codenamed Hypernova, that will be over $1,000 and have a monocular screen in the lower right-hand side of one of the lenses. And so that will give you a visual UI and a whole bunch of things that come with that.

I am not surprised by this. I think it could be cool. We all are very familiar with how popular those Ray-Ban meta glasses have become, which just have the speaker and the meta AI and the camera lens on the front. This would be able to give users a lot more control, a lot more visual experiences. Obviously, they can translate things in front of you and show you arrows where you're supposed to be walking and driving, things like that. So

Doesn't shock me. It'll be interesting to see when they come out, but cool. There was a time when I was optimistic about the future. Damn, it's got dark. When Google Glass was announced and everything was exciting and fun. And now, considering it is meta, I just think they're going to track your eye movement. And that's going to be used to sell you ads. As far as I know, there's no camera at your...

Yeah. Well, in this. In Quest, yes. I don't know. Sorry to be...

The way I am. That did come up around the time of Google Glass. The technology was nowhere near that good yet, but people saw Google Glass and fast forwarded in their brain all the way to, I'm going to look at a blank billboard and in real time, someone's going to buy that ad space personalized to me. Yeah. And then I'm going to have to pay for ad block for it to be like blurred or something. Which I could see Meta doing.

But the technology also has to go a really, really long way to get to that, even being a possibility, whether the company is like the idea or not, which is they have to have the ability to overlay tracked objects over the real world, which is like barely possible. And

And also then track your eye movement and place personalized ads on those billboards. And then the infrastructure of like having blank billboards in the real world. None of that's even remotely possible with what they're talking about here, though, because it's in the lower right hand of your eyes. This is in your eyesight and there's no cameras on your eyes. So monocular screen is just being able to show you something kind of like Google Glass would be kind of just like a small little thing hovering over the real world.

which is still cool. I would like to be able to have that. You'd have to like specifically look at it. Like this is not something that's coming in augmented reality because it's

probably in the bottom right. So you'd have to like, it'd be in your peripheral. You have to be like, oh, I got a notification. Look down kind of thing. Is this better or worse than checking your smartwatch in the middle of a conversation? It's way better. Really? Like if we're just having conversation and then you like look all the way in your bottom left. I'll tell you why it's better. Because I've tried some of these and...

I don't know what it is, but the association that people have with when you raise your wrist up and check it is like rude. Like you're ready to leave this conversation. But isn't it normalized now? It is a little bit, but I think in conversation, obviously eye contact exists, but there's a lot of just like, hmm, looking at the horizon, oh, like thinking about stuff. And in those glances away, you can literally read something. Yeah.

So it's, in my opinion, way less intrusive than checking your watch. But then you're just going to get distracted and you're not going to be able to actually hold a conversation with somebody. Sorry, David, what was that? I was reading this ad. It's going to be so much more likely that your brain is going to be moving towards another thing and then you're going to forget what you're talking about with the person in front of you. It is a balancing act. The demos that I've had so far were very intentional. So they were like, I was talking to someone speaking another language.

And the transcription of what they were saying was appearing on the glasses live in front of me. And I alternated between eye contact and reading that transcription pretty quickly in a way that felt pretty natural because it's glasses. Where I don't think that would have worked as well with a phone or a watch.

trying to do the same thing. But yeah, you're right. If it's just I'm talking to you and a notification appears, that does feel bad. It feels like I just got distracted. Yeah, I can see in specific contexts, it can be very useful. But when taken to the extreme of we're just going to show you all your notifications that are on your phone, it's like you're just going to be distracted all the time. Yeah, I'm assuming you

Like I only have certain notifications that come up on my watch. So like I'm assuming within the meta software, you can pick which notifications you want to come up. I'm sure there's a do not disturb mode. Yes. I mean, like ultimately, if you're the one letting all of those notifications come into that space. Yeah. Then you're just probably the type of person who doesn't care about a conversation as much like you still have to control those things.

Didn't you have Slack notifications on your watch? Me? Which one of you? I do. No, Mark has his everything. His watch goes off the entire time we're in this podcast. It's insane. It's telling me something. Miles just finished a workout. Oh, by the way, there's a Slack message. Oh my God. There's just constant things happening. I had a kind of a hot take. Oh, it's not even that hot of a take. Maybe it is. We'll see. Do it. Who has the minimal phone? You have that light phone? Not on me, but I could go get it. No, you don't have to get it. I just think...

Here's the take. We live in this world where humans can just get smartphones and can have this incredible access to all the world and information and social media and emails and everything around us. And to many people, it is very distracting. And they end up wanting to go, ah, this is too much. Give me a minimal phone where I don't get distracted by as much of that stuff. If you are so distracted by your phone that you have to spend extra money for a worse phone, you lack discipline.

Well, okay. And you should just stop using it. That's not fair. Because these companies literally, they understand human psychology and they use ways. One at a time! On Facebook Messenger, I literally, Facebook Messenger will send me notifications that are like, hey, check back on this conversation you had with this person five years ago.

Because they want me to open the app. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? It's like I understand where you're coming from because I think most things in life, there are many like quick tricks to like fix your problems quickly. But those never work because ultimately you have to develop the discipline to actually like going to the gym or like doing all these things. You have to actually just want it so bad that you do it.

But these companies are actively trying to get around your discipline. So, yes, it's kind of your fault, but it's also the company's fault. It is definitely shared responsibility. But it is kind of a crutch. I just... I don't think it's fair. I don't think it's fair to be like, you're undisciplined when...

literal billions of dollars are being spent to like break your discipline. You know what I mean? I am one guy, you know what I mean? Compared to the world's investors funneling through Meta's veins just trying to get me to pull out my phone six extra times per day. I just think

The minimal phones, like when I look at the ads for them, I want to look at what they actually are. They are a like a black and white phone that only lets you make phone calls, text. And there's what a couple of like a Maps app, a couple other basic things like that. That's the light phone. We should differentiate between the different minimal. So I guess the goal of something like a light phone is that you literally cannot open Instagram and scroll. Right. And you literally cannot open the web browser. The light phone. Yes.

And yeah, that line between I need a phone where I can't do it because if I have the ability to do it, I just will. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people use these. Sorry, I'll let you have some time. I feel very strongly about this. I'll let you have some time. I didn't mean to. Oh, I was just going to say, don't think of it as I need this as a crutch. Think of it as I am putting a wall between me and the billions of dollars being spent to make my life worse. To make your life worse.

Yeah, because these companies know that, like, remember the big meta leak where they knew internally what their products do to teenagers' mental health. They were fully aware. They had all the research and they didn't stop.

Cause it's not about making your life better. None of, none of these, I hate to break it to our audience. None of these companies release tech products to make your life better. I actually am not so sure about that. I think that there is upside and downside and that the companies who are trying to say the upside are trying to minimize the downside, but they're very aware of the downside and it is a huge downside. But the whole like connect to the world and have access to what your friends are posting in general is not like, I hope to ruin your life with these photos. No, it's,

Of course. But there is a big downside. But they knew, these companies know internally that the way they're serving it to you, the way they're sending you notification ads, the way they're presenting its data to you,

is to increase usage time. It's to increase the amount of time, it's to increase engagement, the amount of advertising, the amount of ads you see. So I don't, I think that buying the minimal phone is not just about I can't do this myself, it's about now you can't do this to me. Yeah, I'll use, that's a fair point. I'll use YouTube as a specific example. YouTube, I would think we all agree here is a pretty net positive platform.

Service I probably is better that YouTube exists in the world. Oh, yeah, YouTube is

actively in the business of trying to maximize how much time you spend on their website. Every little micro decision that they make, every decision we get confused about, why did you remove the dislike button counter, everything that they do is trying to maximize satisfied watch time. That is how a channel becomes successful. That is how a video becomes successful. That is how YouTube becomes successful. They show you more ads. They maximize how much time you spend on the site. At a certain point,

you can fall down a rabbit hole, become addicted, spend way too much time on YouTube, and there is that downside. And trust me, YouTube is very aware of those downsides and the things that happen on their site. And they do a decent job of trying to minimize a lot of that stuff.

I hope I never have to buy a phone that doesn't have the YouTube on it because I am that addicted to YouTube, but I very much depend on YouTube and use it all the time and...

except the downsides that come with how much of an upside it is to have that experience. That's a fair point. Yeah. There's balancing act. Okay. You're right. You're right. Another counterpoint. YouTube is like owned by Google, right? So they have a little bit of a... I guess by alphabet, but yeah. By alphabet. Whatever, same thing. So they have a bit of a padding for one, not being able to make or not needing to like...

maximalized to the highest, highest degree possible all the time. And they're able to sort of optimize, like you said, for like satisfied watch time to make you feel good about the platform to come back to it.

It's slightly different. I guess because before they just optimized maximum watch time, but sometimes people would arrive on a video and watch it and then leave halfway through because it wasn't what they were looking for. And they tried to get people out of that funnel and into a different video that they would enjoy faster, meaning that you do watch the video. So it's not necessarily a positive emotion. It's just actively finding and choosing and staying on the website longer. Yeah.

They've also built an algorithm that is incredibly good at showing you things you actually like. Yeah. I think that a platform like Meta, where, you know, Instagram or Reels is completely dictated. I mean, there is a search function, but does anyone use the search function on Instagram besides to find someone's account? No. So whereas YouTube is like it is it is very much a choose your own adventure besides the homepage, which does drive a lot of views. Yeah.

So I think having more active control over what you're using the platform for makes it less addictive than something that just feeds you dopamine constantly. Yeah. I mean, YouTube does have a shorts carousel. Yeah, it does. They do, but... And you'd be surprised how many people use search on TikTok. I'm surprised by that all the time. Yeah. People are like...

search for recipes, search for trends, search for restaurants. I did see someone search for a specific video on Instagram last week. Apparently it's like if you are in an area and you search on TikTok for like a certain restaurant, you'll find little viral references

restaurant reviews in your area and then can visit that space. So it's interesting. That's the reason I can't go to my favorite bakery anymore in China. Is it Bloop on TikTok? Dang, it happens. But yeah, anyway, that's why it's a hot take. So are we pro-metaglasses? Sorry, I didn't mean to take this down. Well, metaglasses, again, will have an upside that comes with a downside.

As we mentioned, it will be very useful for things like live transcription or showing you directions or whatever you're doing. But it will absolutely come with the downside of distracting you with notifications when you don't need them. Yeah. I can't imagine driving on the highway and getting a notification in the corner of my vision and how that isn't a horrible thing. Yeah. So...

Yeah. Yeah. You get some and you lose some at the same time. My hot take is I would have I would not have been as annoyed at this if it was literally any company but Meta that was making them. Well, trust me, there will be more companies. I know there will and they will probably be near like near levels of like, I don't know about this, but Meta is possibly the worst one in my humblest opinion. Yeah.

They're all bad. They all just want to make money. I think we all understand that. However, if Meta had done this in like 2011, 2010, you know, back in the Google Glass era, it would have been hilarious because it would have been like, Andrew needs two more sheep in Farmville. David poked you. What? Anyway. We'll find out by the end of 2025. Last little tiny little thing.

Delta emulator, which is this awesome emulator for iOS that there are multiple stories about because they basically had it on this separate app store until they were officially able to put on the real app store. They have now released an update that lets you do online multiplayer for Nintendo DS. And I think that's super cool. So congrats on that launch. That's all I wanted to say. Without any further ado, it's trivia time. ♪

I think we need new erasers. Trivia time. All right. We were talking about April Fool's jokes. I have four in front of me. I'm going to read them real quick.

And you guys tell me which one I made up. One, Tesla goes bankrupt. Elon announces a Tesla bankruptcy on Twitter. Two, Google mic drop. You can email anyone a gif of a minion drop at a mic with the touch of a button. C, Hulu's new app Who, which is eight second cuts of TV shows. Or D, the Nikon D5100 selfie cam, which allows you to take selfies out of the EVF.

Or it's not an EVF. It's just an OVF. It's an optical viewfinder. Yeah. You get it. You get it. You get it. SLR. Which one did Ellis make up? I picked the same thing. We all picked C. Pac-Man. I drew a C and then I drew a bunch of other stuff around the C. Wait, is that a reference to Google's 2017 April Fool's joke where they let you play Pac-Man with Google Maps? I remember.

I remember that. That was one of the best ever. But no, I just got carried away with the C. Very good. You're all wrong. I apologize. Was it the Nikon thing? It was the Nikon thing. I made that one up. That was very well created. Thank you. Because it would be a good April Fool's Day joke. Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. And I didn't even use AI to think of it. It was too good. Yeah. The thing with the who thing is that... Who?

There are real services that try to do that. So it's kind of funny to make an April Fool's Day joke around other people's business models. Well, this was 2017. That's fair. They were ahead of the time. Yeah. Anyway, Adam's going to read the score and then give you your second question. Marquez with 15. Andrew with 7.

David in the lead, carrying the one with 16. Really? Only one? Yeah. What happened to my lead? I know, sorry. And for his 17th season, Bobby Moynihan! No one? SNL? Question number two. Mario first appeared in what other game? Damn. Yeah. I am not. You might...

That's why I picked it. Metal Gear Solid. Got it. Snake and his famous companion, Mario. Elden Ring. I'm just trying to think of other games that aren't named after their main character. Skyrim. Skyrim.

He's definitely been in Skyrim at some mod. There's a mod where Mario is in Skyrim. Metroid Prime. Fortnite. Fortnite. And Mario Brownlee. Marques, you can do better than that. What did you say? I said solitaire. I don't know. Games? Come on, guys.

Andrew? Donkey Kong. David? Donkey. Correct. Kong. Yes. Country. So do you remember the old Donkey Kong game where Donkey Kong's standing at the top throwing barrels down the... The chutes and ladders. Yeah, I thought Donkey Kong was a derivative of Mario, actually. Well, Mario's the guy jumping in the game. You play as Mario in Donkey Kong to rescue Princess Peach.

Wait, is it Peach or is it... It's called Donkey Kong. Maybe that's not Peach. Marques, I thought you would get that because it's like the only other Nintendo game that's like mainly pop culture. I was like, if he just picks another... I never played it either, but if you just picked another one... You've never played the original Donkey Kong? I've never played it. Uncultured swine. And with that, we will end the podcast. Hey, but like I said...

Nintendo Switch 2. Nintendo Switch 2. If you haven't already watched Nintendo Switch 2 hands-on, check that out. It should be on the channel. What else do you guys have to say? Anything else? Nintendo Switch 2. Mario looks crazy in Donkey Kong. It doesn't look anything like Mario. It just looks like a... Oh.

That looks like Wario. You saved Pauline in Donkey Kong. And Pauline is a character in Super Mario Odyssey. So they bring her back. Okay. Jesus. I also want to make it known today that earlier I named all seven Pokemon. You want to name them again? All seven? There's a lot more than seven. I named all seven. I don't think you got seven. I think I got six. I think you got six with a really good hint at the end. I think I got seven.

I can name 26 right here. Damn. Yeah. All the unknowns. Take that one, nerds. Yeah, there's Agumon. I can name 27. Piplup. There's Mercury. Renamon. Enos. Neptune. All right, let's wrap this up. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Thanks for subscribing. Thanks for liking. Thanks for commenting. Thanks for suggesting stuff for next week. Catch you guys later. Peace. Waveform is produced by Nintendo Switch 2, Adam Molina, and Ellis Riverman. We're partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network and our character music was created by Fancy.

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