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to podcasts. Do you know that mean of like, you know that me that's the chart and it's the guy that's really dumb and then it's the mage and that's the guy that's really dumb. And it's like it's the country and it's like apple notes notion everything else.

I mean, that's correct.

I am on one of those sides. I can't say which, but I I used the apple.

What is up? People of the internet? I know that I sound exactly in markets because I am mars.

Welcome back to the another ap. Ode away from podcast west. I'm mars and i'm David. J. K. Markets is not here.

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All right, in today's episode.

we have apple event predictions, new garment releases, a new pair of headphones with the best transparency mode ever possibly, and a bunch of other small hits. Uh, I kind of think we just jump in apple. And because they have consumed our week so far, mostly because it's on september night, which is a monday which come on monday. This is from what I heard I was supposed to be tuesday.

like IT is every single year. But there is a presidential debate now on september tenth, tuesday. And apparently apple moved IT. Now if you have been in this community for way too long, like we have, this is really funny.

Because in around twenty eighteen, apple are one plus was supposed to have a huge lawn event for like the one plus six or the sixty years something. And they had set IT for some time in october. And they set IT months ahead of time, I think was october.

I was months ahead of time. And then apple randomly, I decided to announce their event two weeks before. And one place was like.

because is on the same day, yes.

exactly the same day. So one pass moved their event like a month later.

which we had already been invited out for .

like .

a while and they had to be like what we cannot do.

right? So now this apple event is monday's number sets consumed our week because we have been managing hotel bookings and .

fly yeah because we were like we're finally gna get ahead of this. We're going to book all our flights and hotels early. We're going a pretty good ideas. Usually the second day in september, we got this yeah IT wasn't yeah that was really funny because .

there was a rumor that went out that said I was going to be september tenth and then mark s put him like, i'm feeling like a genius.

I blame that post IT wasn't the debate that changed?

Yeah that post that change, right? IT was they couldn't .

be accurate in the leak, had fund enough. I saw people specular cover and in australia so made all of this much more annoying as he is flying into and Francisco to go to the event from his tournament in australia. Yeah, now that is a much tighter timetable. Yes, but but no, no, no. I think he's showing .

up the morning of the event but .

now he's .

now I really.

I think he is crazy.

I know he's shooting out of the .

seventeen hour difference or something and he's, yes, it's a mess anyway, uh, let's get into the actual predictions. The event invites one out this week. And the tagline this year was its glow time, clearly a its showtime plan words I don't know.

I don't get up, but thank you clearly.

And then there's an animation that shows that basically turning into theory that a new city. So clearly, apple is going to be highlighting the new version of syrian apple intelligence at this event, which is funny because it's not going to actually .

launch on the eyes.

right? How do you think this is going to change anything? We all assume it's not going to be long. I I don't think so.

I think it's coming out at and eighteen point one, which is cheating .

LED for october. O K, yeah. So these are with this also like this clearly means they're to spend so much the event talking about this is twenty twenty four going to be the there like the really boring smartphone events because they all just feel like like this is just gonna like dub dub where the pixel one just felt like I O there, I O junior and doub junior.

we need a junior .

is so boring ah which such a shame too, because that a new pix of hardware was incredible, overshadowed by all this stuff. I don't think that iphone hardwork will be much different. Yeah.

is the Brown color? Yeah, we can over some of the rumors. So the pros are supposed to have bigger screens again, which is crazy.

And we very, very, very big expense. And also there is apparently going to be a dedicated shutter button for the camera on the sixteen pro. Okay, yeah.

cool. That's interesting. Yeah.

wait. So but what about the volume?

What about the water marker .

that already takes?

You know, I think you be it'll be on the bottom right side because when you turn your phone's the sideways to take a photo, your natural resting position.

I yeah would find that super interesting. First first question. The action by the remap OPPO .

camera and I is in IT is in the less ideal .

spot in the left, because when you're crunching your finger up like that, you have a Better shot of your other fingers blocking in the camera there. So the right side does make more sense. Yeah, I don't know why I feel like that would be so weird seeing an iphone with .

that extra butter on IT. I mean, it's gonna be that, but I think that they're on this weird campaign that they have been for years where they just want you to see your iphone as a replacement for a professional camera. Every apple event for the last, like three to four years has been like you could replace your entire cinema set up for this, use final cut camera with .

five ipads and iphone cineas mood and poker and all this.

And do you think going to be the .

same button as the action button.

like the same thing? I think I also might be circular, like a thread now. And you could use I want IT .

would be sick .

IT would be sick.

Um yeah that are there any changes to the one there? Some rumors that like the camera was gonna different is that on the regular iphone .

that's on the regular.

that's going to be the estate special .

video yeah because currently there the uh diageo al, and for a special video you have to have the parallax. They have to be right on top.

But what's interesting about IT is the bump itself also a smaller according to these rumors, leaks. Are we looking at the same? Yeah, some of the leaks are showing IT. I don't know the leaks are renders that are just rumors, but showing IT a little more like the iphone on ten? Yeah, yes, I think really good.

And does I think that looks good?

I think IT looks good. I do we think .

that's actually gonna en, I think so. Yeah, yeah. Because they tend to release new software stuff with the hardware in the pro models and then the next year, bring IT to the cheaper model. And so special video, I think, would be one of the highlights this year. Yeah.

yeah. I just think like the two. So diagonally in the square camera bump looked fine, yeah, but stacked in the bump plate.

yes, yeah. Besides that, it's kinds just the bigger screens on the prose. Uh, we might get A I think that there is supposed to be a higher resolution, one of the other cameras, hier resolution. Now.

you know, how much bigger is the scream?

Oh, let me see.

Is this going to be like significantly bigger or is going to be like we made the vessels one millimetre smaller ends like no one really can til .

IT says the sixteen pro max will be six point nine inches, where last year was six seven. Oh, which is significant. That is signed.

Ant, yeah, that's pretty huge. OK, so that's the remember anyway. Y yes. So that's IT for the phones generally. And I think that they feel like they can do that this year because apple logic is gna take up so much of the king.

But there are some other big things coming out, like for example, this is the tenth version of the apple watch so either whether or not they go with serious x yet again I watch x or if they just do serious ten, i'm not really sure um but IT is supposed to be slightly redesigned with it's going to be a thinner watch today and have bigger displays, even bigger. And the abott S E is apparently going to be made of plastic, which I find ironic considering every company is like we're reducing all plastic in our entire supply. And except the actual device.

I guess if it's recycled, maybe yeah, but I I don't know the inner working plastics that well, maybe that's an easier way for them to recycle and be cheaper and be able to fit more into IT.

My guess is also that a lot of these companies are moving towards trying to capture the kids market like fitbit just really stay for kids band. And there's all this like I think a lot of these companies see that is a potential up like market opportunity, which is weird. But here we go. Um so I think that they basically see IT as like, oh, well, if we have a plastic smart watch, parents wouldn't think, oh, my kids gonna destroy this really nice piece of hardware.

which is funny. The top of IT is still all glass. You think that that will be plastic? No, I know that .

the body plastics don't know about the actual apple lodge series hands. I think seeing that in real life is going to be really interesting.

IT will be, if you had to. But on IT being up, watch serious. X, X, you think so.

or ten.

but with the x or just ten is not the ten x like Better.

You'll probably say ten but using .

x cool yeah strix they're going to say x on the .

stage series x dot com. Um also they are apparently going to be new airpower. Ds, but unfortunately not the airports we were hoping for.

Uh, the rumor is they are going to be too new models that are low and mid teer models. They look more like the prose but just have worse hardware are internally over the mid teer will finally get A N C. For the first time. That has been a thing that has been reserved for the process in the past.

In and when you say that looks more like the Price, are we talking silicon tips .

in the a short stamps? okay. Silicon tips S.

I know there's a lot. Will there still be a model without that? I know there's a lot of people who really don't like silicon.

It's a great understand that I have a feeling they may sell them along side .

each other. Pencil deal where like there's airports and then there's the airports that are the same, but they're kind of right. And then there's airports pro .

and then yeah the f is a dung le, the charge .

great lightning into each airport yeah .

and I am assuming the cheapest to model will probably not have mag safe and know that of stuff, maybe even still charged with lightning. Maybe they haven't been forced yet.

So yeah, we'll see. And no airports s max.

right? Yeah, this is the crazier thing. The airports s max came out so long ago, like three years.

I think work said in the dicon vio four years yeah.

wow, I don't think was quite .

for maybe oh, oh, no. I saw you guys whispers ing.

oh, wait. Oh, sorry.

i'm getting a phone call, do you?

I don't have to come back to want to come back to this apple thing.

I think I A phone call. Oh, my g look who IT. Hi friends. hello. We brought David pears back so that he can help you get through your feelings about productivity of you guys did all those months ago, all those months ago.

People have been dying for you to come back. I have gotten many messages. I have been called.

I would say everything from like, correct about the world and and a saint saving Andrew from himself all the way to like, you're a monster. Leave poor Andrew alone. He's just doing life like the rest of us.

It's forgive me.

David, David joining. I know you about to grow me with productivity apps, but we take a quick at breakfast. I know you love as and then i'll get back and talk about google test. And still IT do IT.

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There are a lot of people who were like, I know you mean, there are a lot of people like, i'm just like you and this is super helpful. But overall, the video, one of best epson glad hear.

Yeah, a lot of productivity nerds out there that turns out that makes me very happy. Yeah, these are my people.

They are. I am kind of one of your people.

What did you end? Yeah.

yeah, people. I'm solely on google tasks. Uh, OK. I went to IT I enjoyed IT was the nice simple straw in I think I remember talking to markets early.

I walked into like, cool, this isn't doing enough. I wanted do more and then I think I download tic and then didn't like IT and then I downloaded to do this. And then there is something really strange about adding everything to my calendar, but I had to buy the proverb in order to get certain notifications. And I didn't like that. So i've just been on google tasks and I love IT.

okay? I have have so many questions. So do this is good because I was we left. If I recall, this is like almost five months to the day that the episode we did published. As we're recording this now and we left, you are going to try those three apps.

But I feel like I left completely unconvinced that you are going to do any of this. You were like, you are kind of in the heads space of like whatever my system sort of works. Sure, it's slightly chaotic, but he gets the job done.

Please leave me alone and go back dealing about take, take. So i'm curiously, I think I was smart that you started with cool tasks, actually, that that was very smart because I think if you had started with one of the like, more intense ones, IT might have freak you out. You would have built I I think starting small was a google, but like what what did you start putting into google tasks?

First day, first day I was. I think I kind of just like a bunch of test things, things that I like, didn't I knew I would get done, but I kind of did the many ways um I can remember exactly what but lots of I think there is a lot of like clean the garage mode alone things that I do do over the weekend. And remember I told you like my weekends were at some point out.

No, I will get this done, but a lot of that is sunday at five o'clock and after wasting the whole weekend. So I did a lot of stuff like that and then a lot of small things that work here that didn't necessarily need to go into like notion or our calendar, but small things I personally wanted to do or like things that I knew I had to get done. The fact that it's on the side of gmail, great, but I only we talked about this in that, but i've complained at a multiple time the gmail task sidebar doesn't is only in way the background is only way.

IT doesn't not match with the theme of your gmail. Interesting that is to me, google can figure out to change x code color in the back ground to match insanity. So that really bothers me.

So what? Okay, now I need to know what your gmail theme s oh, you're a dark mode guy.

It's weird because gm doesn't called dark mode this and black.

which I think is with the gmail themes. This is a complete diversion for some .

emails .

you get when it's dark and it's like IT darkness, the email and everything looks since and then other ones you get that are like the the marketing email from lb and they're still wait and they're like blinding against the black background. So I just gave up on teaming IT because some emails are just like to screw your theme. It's going to be it's going to be so great. You go blind that I admire the dark mode, but I I could never .

do that well. I do my work email and light mode and my personal email and dark mode. So to me, that's the different theatre of at work.

I know like what i'm what i'm doing. Look at me more organized than I thought. I know the thought, but now tasks is like a completely in a girl part of my life. I would say i've multiple really like uh, occurring apps tasks.

I have like some really stupid ones like I filled my wife's cup with ice and water every morning before I leave because she's on some revictual taking care of so that's like one nice thing to do. Um I have making disco lt puts every night for practice, but I also have stuff like doing my laundry every weekend and cleaning the car every weekends like things that I never would have done. My laundry would be like I have zero close left I would do later now now just do IT every week.

I A question for both of you guys. So I was not in the episode where .

you guys got roasted. Well, jan or o dave, i'm so like.

sorry, sorry. Yeah you so I have traditionally just use google keep for my to do list stuff. Recently I started playing around with google tasks. IT feels a little bit similar. So you said that you put tasks for like washing the car stuff.

Do you feel that you need those to be on your phone instead of just doing them? Because my thing has always just been like i'm just onna get into a habit of doing a thing, but I haven't found productivity apps to actually help me do the thing. They actually just feel like they get in my .

way successfully executing all of those habits without fail every single time.

That's no, no.

not consistently. I mean, the one thing I am consistently and actually a dancy for IT got me into the habit is making my bed k and he got into the bit by saying on dying yeah my not .

by being my sleep over in a row, then just had me me doing IT .

uh but yeah, making the bad thing life hack to people, i'm fully convinced making your bed make sure days so much Better because IT is the quickest thing that you can possibly do. It's IT IT takes like thirty seconds IT looks good and IT starts you off on this like rolling movement of like i'm gona do good things for myself today.

And the worst is that being really tired and laying down in your bed with your sheet .

or mess yeah and getting home and having your bed look clean and lane, the bed feels great. So it's a good it's a good thing. Yeah so anyway, back to the tasks besides the bed um I just yeah I don't know.

I don't feel like there are things that I need to get done in a like specific order or a specific day. I usually just have on my google key plake these. It's not recurring.

They're hanging tasks that I need to get done, like to do day of x and I just chek the math. What is different about U S S. Productivity apps that allow these to either?

I feel like you just can you like open up a perfect question for me to explain why google task work so good? I like this. I think it's like tasks to me feels like the perfect in between of like it's a little more nagging than google keeps is where like IT gives me some reminders but it's not this.

Like, aren't you doing that? Why are you doing that? Aren't you doing that? So for me, I have things that I said, whether that is set for a day, like my laundry in, clean my carrots upon saturdays.

I've like a septic system that I have to clean once a month. So that's a monthly task or have daily tasks. Each of those they come down as a notification once whether or I have something that's like, uh, trash is to go out nine P M.

On thursday. So that is a time with this was a little more specific that pops up. I can do IT right then, or I can swipe IT away the like ones that aren't specifically on times, swipe that away.

But then my list starts growing. And now when I see my list that's growing. Then it's a little more like, okay, I put some of these off on the day that I wanted to do IT and now on two days away and my my list is like five or six. Knocking those off feels so good and feels like taking this huge way off your shoulder and then seeing that task. Think of IT as like i'm looking at my task cap that's clean.

that's my maid bed of my OK .

are you in box? Is your own person with your email and you like that's the same kind of impulse.

Yes, my inbox is pretty low key, so it's easy. But yeah, i'm in inbox zero person. I I hate that I am .

I am every eight months when I get really frustrated with that.

But actually I think that that is a perfect uh, case for a task manager in general, right? Is that like you want something that to noise, you just the right amount yeah and honestly, like if you're if you're disciplined enough to like sit down and review your list every day and said here the things that I intend to accomplishing make time to go accomplish those things that actually do them without any prompting or help. God love you.

Congratulations on all of your accomplishments. I am not one of those people. And so having a thing that I can just like dump p IT into and I know that a is all there, and b, the things that I need to remember at a certain time, IT will tell me about at that time, like the the mental law that disappears because of that. I just like that, the thing that I keep putting way too much of my life into these systems trying to do that is just like I I don't have to worry about this anymore because at some point I will remember that this exist because I have just this list that I look at or it'll yell at moment that needs to .

I have a question for you, David. You I saw you posting about some new APP that you are using recently that I think you've got recommended from casey newton.

And I spend the vast majority of our time together just talking about protectively. I it's a life. This is this is what we've chosen.

Uh, so the APP I started using now is called is not called capacity and it's very good. And I would say it's less like a to do list up and more sort of a notion competitor. Uh, it's very much like place to put all your notes and dump by your stuff and keep everything organized.

And uh, I think notion is a basically perfect piece of software except that is so slow and IT sucks to use. And I hate IT. And other than that, and the mobile APP is like the worst thing ever.

yes. Oh, it's awful. I mean and one of the funny st things that you see now is like there's this whole I go on the notion everyone's no oil and the most popular thing is notion. But faster is the pitch for like seven hundred other pbs. Now it's so funny, but capacity is like they have this idea of objects.

See, you basically you put different types of things into this up, like i'm reading a book, I put this thing in in, in a book, and then you can sort of organize and manage all that stuff the way that you want to. And for me, I have this like massive overlapping set of stuff going on, usually at work between, like stories are working on a podcast for doing in video stuff and meetings, just having a place, I can put all that stuff and keep IT in order, end up being like necessary. And I just sort of need a system like that.

So I am perpetually building systems in these new apps, trying to find when that works. Classis is very good. Uh, it's uglier and a little more complicated than notion.

But h, it's so fast. It's so fast and IT works off line. And so I have put my entire life and and joy into IT. Um I probably won't use IT forever all probably back on city interaction or something .

about releases. You will probably be something it's honestly.

it's a good test. Will this come out before I did? Capacity is a useful test.

Do you know that mean of like you know the meme, that's the chart and it's the guy that's really dumb and then it's the mage and it's the guy that's really dumb and it's like it's the country and it's like apple notes notion, everything else notes.

I mean, that's correct.

I'm on i'm on one of those sides. I can't say which, but I I use the apple and the google keep. My google keep is one of the most terrifying things you've ever seen. I hate IT because when I color code my my google keep but just because I want you to have a color, I don't the color doesn't mean anything. It's just because I was like.

I feel like this is, do you do that like final cut or premier or so?

Nothing makes sense. It's organized.

This is this like a like a cynthia gia thing where you just like look at a note and like this note just feels blue to me.

I wish I could be.

That's a way Better answer than I just give colors. So yes, these are sounds so cool. Just lean into, yes.

exactly when it's blue. I know that IT means I have to do on thursday for pm.

So impressed. okay. So Andrew acted a google that I if I remember, right, one of the things that we talked to bunch about was whether the right solution for you is to just pour everything into your calendar, all of the all of the tasks, all of the like things they need to get done today.

Should I just be, uh, making them all day events on my calendar so I find them there. Did you try that? Why why does that appeal or not appeal?

Um I don't do that and I don't like that because already even um without all myself in there in google tasks my calendar is such a mess and there's so many things and I was just talking with the adam about this the other day. It's really knowing how on just google calendar um how you can't like you can display this only in in terms of like all the different calendars. So we have like work, I have me clear shared calender.

I've mine but then we also have calendars now for the different rooms and how they are booked inside of the studio on up of vacation days and stuff that i'm keeping track of. So I can click a calendar and display this only. But then if I want to go back up to check all the calendars back again and that is miserable. It's very that so there's just wait too much in my calendar already to do that. I had my test there for a little wild is too much um and I didn't like IT.

so that's fair. So for you, calendar is like a sort of snapshot of the universe rather than like a list of things I have to do today. Yeah and if you're one of those people that that approach .

total doesn't and I would also say my calendars by ninety percent work related, where as my tasks is way more like personal stuff or even just like the things that I want to do at work. But the things that i'm like setting up for myself to do at work that the rest the team doesn't need to know, just that I want to like make sure we're getting done.

Yeah, do you see your tasks in your calendar? That's one of the appealing things about google.

Really didn't. No, I like my test to be its own thing. Like I said, like that's what is this perfect mix of when even if like I swipe away notification and I don't do IT right away, that means the next test that comes up, i'm begin to look at the my APP I like widget for and be like, oh, I didn't do that now while i'm doing this, let's not a couple of amount so that's why I works for me pretty well um other than ones that are like this has to be done that none I am then it's like, okay. I remember this was specifically this time so I do right now .

OK I how did you set up google tasks? Are you one list for everything kind of guy?

Um so first of all, i've never had ever secondaries screens. I I hate any extra screens. I like only actor .

stuff or folder. This in being like we tried to convince you to put a rigid and just like this.

never me, wow.

I have my calendar above IT just like, so not all of that. I just have daily calender above IT to quick look at some of the things happening, or you like who's out or remote for the day. And then under that, my google, texas, I use this so much, I pretty much add everything from just this widget.

I look at IT. This is the thing where, you know, if i've swiped a task or a task comes up and I come look over here and i'm like, alright, there's six or seven things on here now let's knock out three, four them and feel really good about IT. I think the widget here is what's completely changed IT.

Not only that, i've talked about this at home so much now literally like a week ago. Clear like what's that task cap you use um and I installed on her phone and SHE on the cast but I don't know but yeah my wife is now on google tasks and she's enjoying IT as well. He is a lot more stuff to do because of lane, but I trying put some things on help as well. So you you .

just totally validate two theories i've always had about the TV apps. Uh, one is that having IT be like a thing that is sort of near you otherwise is really valuable. Like the the google sidebar thing is so real, just the fact in your your email and it's right, there is a huge deal.

And people always say like on mobile, whatever, it's just to swipe away, just use the absence ter or on detox or you can have both windows up. The fact that is in the sidedness ard is a big deal. Uh and also I have been convinced forever that like capture speed is actually the whole ball game.

They give its really quick to write something down, you will, and if it's slow, you won't and that's other system breaks, right? And I think especially with the google tasks, one of the things that google has done a garbage job of over the years is making IT easy to add stuff into, like its reminder system, because its reminder system was forty five different apps that didn't speak to each other. And that is like very slowly getting Better. Do you use the voice stuff at all? Like are you are you yelling reminders in .

the your phone only? So I remember. I remember I think the reason I try to use to do this is when you are talking about a natural language processing and like being able to do that through just adding things and google text in the task. APP doesn't have that um at least I don't think that does but the google assistant as long as I say added as the task IT does. And honestly, I think doing that is where clare decided.

I want this because the best time you can do that is clicking the little microphone on your android auto in the car when you don't want to use your phone in the car and be like you remind me to do this, especially when i'm driving home. This is where I use IT. So often with specific times is my commute an hour.

Clare will be like, pick something home up on the way home and if I don't in my car, click like in one hour or at you know five fifty five when i'm just getting around off my exit to pick this up, I will get home and you will be like, where was the drag cleaning you are supposed to pick up and i'll be yes, IT is at the drag cleaner because I did not remember to do that. So IT is saved me so many times and remembers to do stuff like that. Um see IT doesn't have natural language processing, but the fact that assistant will do IT as long as you understand how to ask IT correctly, which is the .

most fun thing about google assistant yeah, the syntax is a little White.

I feel like that when you use google long enough, it's like how you have to learn how to search on google. You just have to learn, how do you know maybe german? I will get to do something. And they're one of these days, who knows?

Yeah, probably David, meanwhile, is just sitting here being like, I just always remember, pick up the driver inside the .

I do I don't know, I want to tell you all because he makes bad. Guess my brain is huge.

Apparently these on video .

called this guy the other day, and I took us like ten minutes because he switched .

to pixel because nothing worked well. Me, oh yeah. Yes.

you don't want to use google meat per emphasis is original.

I was settling with after like slack huddles OK.

I think that your audio was not working on your computer.

Everything we .

tried didn't work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, you're right.

Set a test to go back to life.

Just doing my job. Man, yeah. No, I I don't doubt that if I actually tried to use protectively APP, I would be more productive because there are definitely times when I tell myself that I need to get self time and I just never got around to doing .

IT your keep stuff is IT generally things you have to get done or just things you.

anna, remember, it's a mixture of both. Sometimes i'm just like video idea that I had idea for that video that I had, but it's and then sometimes it's a literally a running list of things I need to get done that's pined to the top, to be fair.

Um so I think that first thing is like a perfect use of google keeps yeah google keeps is really good at that for like the sort of tranent notes that you're like. I don't need this to be like a big beautiful document that show somebody I break down this the idea that I eventually won't anymore yeah keep us awesome for that. IT should be Better as a task manager because google also owns IT and google ows google tasks yeah it's just all sitting right there ah and I think at some point google is going to put those pieces together. But they've been telling me that .

for a decades I start out of series, please. Okay, you're saying those two should just be together. What are your thoughts on the screen shots? APP not being part of google photos.

So what I think is that google really would like you to be able to just make up horrifying photos, no problems, easily enough, but do useful things with their screen shots. They have to make more complicated, makes perfect sense. A great job, everybody.

What are we doing here? And I know, I think in general, a lot of this A I stuff is probably Better suited in its own APP for now. Um my guess would be if this stuff is pula and any good, it's all going to end up in in photos, in camera before too long.

But I think for now, like IT is probably the right trial balloon to at least just make people do one more thing to access some of the stuff. It's where are the google doing IT even while IT is just railroad ting, everybody's android phone with gami. So to pick that one spot to be kind of cautious doesn't really make any sense. But I think for the first run of this thing, yes, but pixel screens shots long term, if it's any good, should absolutely not.

Now yeah, I keep in tasks together at and that but IT makes perfect sense because what you're saying is just all the the pin task or the pin to do this should just be if that wasn't keep IT would be an easier way to remind you ah and in a wig where keep all the other stuff should be in keep that's where i've like recipes or gift ideas for parents or siblings.

This is where I just don't want like there's so much segmentation on things that are only slightly different. And it's the same analogy with the screen shots out versus the photos that because with keep, it's like with geri. Now you can ask geri to make you a grocery list.

And what does that do? IT creates a bulleted list in google keep. But to me, my brain, my apparently massive brain, doesn't really like separate the difference between a checklist in keep in a checklist in tasks. And I knew .

that's google fault, not your fault. Kay, thank you. That is that flad product that that what tasks should be is a list of all the tasks you have in google keep like google tasks at a properly run product, organza would not need to exist because gooder keep would already have that feature.

But at google, IT is easy to be successful launching a new thing and maintaining an old thing. And this is why we keep getting new google product. Yeah but but like the thing describing is exactly right.

I think what google is doing is sort of backing its way into that connection where like if you if you add a reminder to a thing in google, keep IT IT makes absolutely no sense that that doesn't immediately appear in google tasks. And I think that's what we're onna get where there's like a little bit of that cross pollination. Um again, theyve been saying things like that for a very long time.

I'm not super hopeful it's going to happen anytime soon. But I like you can see how just that little connection would make both much Better. I would be very exact no.

definitely some sort of just like universal procol you say where everything can talk to each other? Yeah what an idea. Yeah, I don't know. I guess my I just my brain doesn't easily segment the difference between tasks and notes. So I think that's probably why my keep is so messy just because I ve just want to throw everything that I think of in one place.

If you physically segmented, then your brain doesn't have to segment.

Yeah, I guess, right.

So if you, dave, we're just going to do the same thing with you that we honest you should because I think i'm more that podcast was very long. We're just going .

to do to get let's go.

it's running back OK.

So if you have a thing that you're like, I need to do IT at four thirty P M. On thursday. Yeah, I have to send a form to the government. How do you make sure that that has done at four thirty P M. On thursday?

I usually just remember David gets arrested .

for I usually just try to .

remember and I there have been times where I have forgotten um google does do a good job of before meetings and stuff like sending you ten minutes to your meeting reminder or like google calendar. I did start using google calendar about a year ago, like much more aggressively. So now when i'm getting dinner with someone or when i'm supposed to like hoping to call someone, I usually put in my google calendar. So there's that and events and events but most of the .

time you're just like if if this is important enough, all probably remember .

IT usually yeah .

which that's even worse than Andrew just setting like Andrew, andy suddenly looks like .

thorough organized and I was when he was like, yeah, i've inbox zero again. If you see my best man like I think .

the studio video you coming into David and you can just follow him around for twenty four hours.

I I would love to just be your productivity coach like I just I will I will teach you all of my ways and you will do none of them because it's insanity.

Uh, I but I think like, look, if you if that works terrific but right, I think the the case against that approach in a lot of ways, islam mental load right like that, all the people who write about productivity and talk about the suffered research IT, it's less like fear of forgetting something even though you will like we all forget things uh, and it's more just the the mental load IT requires you to keep that in your brain that you have to do that at for thirty on thursday, right? Just the the brain, the mental cycles IT takes up between now and then that if you just upload IT somewhere else, you get to spend those cycles on something else. And as discuss, your brain is enormous. So maybe this is not a problem OK.

This sounds, this might sound dumb. I think that I ve had A A nervousness around offloading to many of the things, from my brain to a computer, because I am worried that I will just start not naturally remembering anything. And I don't want to rely on something that's not me to get to make sure that I do the things I need to do.

I get that play more video games keeps the mind strong .

yeah but this all said, I actually would like to get Better at especially the tasks because like we were saying, with the making the bad thing, being able to like do smaller things to like a gets the ball rolling and like make yourself more productive in general, I think would be very good because usually what I do now is like if i'm not being productive, I have a panic attack. So then know, I just force myself to be.

I think I can also say, the reoccurred daily tasks of super miniature things that i've done, I would argue, after you do at so many times becomes enough of routine, like making your bed. And at a certain point, you don't have to really put IT in your task up. So before you leave IT in there and you love checking that box because it's that easy.

easy one every day, you're doing Normal, doesn't do anything for me. I've i've tried to use a bunch of different tasks, task apps that have like recurring tasks and IT just feels like like a necessary work to have to open IT up and hit check to me. I don't know that there. I I only really .

use the recurring stuff for things with a long enough time horizon that i'm probably going to forget, like, I have one. I have to change the air filter, in my fairness, every three months. And I just will forget when I did IT last, right? So like, even if I will suddenly be like, oh, I should change the filter.

When do I do that being able to check and be like out enough to do that? That is like, that's great. Yeah but i'm with you on the daily stuff like there are lots of people who who have literally like brush teeth, make coffee .

on drive.

Do I see markets as calendar?

There's a lots of people on this podcasts. Mes.

he has dripped to work and i'm like, do don't think .

you need that? Yeah, he didn't explain .

that well, in the last you can do clearly treaty, i'm not going .

there is plenty of good theory behind that, right? But not only like one of the things i've hurt from lunch people over the years is a really good thing to do, a schedule downtime, like if what you're going to do is just rot on the culture for three hours, like put on your calender that you're going to walk on the culture for three hours because what is does is like you've scheduled all the things that matter such that when you want to sit on the culture in right for three years, you watch shows that actually a thing you have declared your intention to do, and that actually is being really important.

That does nothing for me. Never ever has IT feels ridiculous to put on my counter. I can make myself do IT. But I, I, I do sort of by the the theory behind that, for me the occurring stuff is only useful kind of and and I have mine set up so that IT IT goes three months for the like air filter IT goes three months from when I check IT off, not when I was last due. So IT actually is now on us like the correct cats, no matter when the like original do date was, which is not very.

very handy. I think the reason that that look brought in on the couch three hour thing doesn't really feel like IT works as because when you're you usually scheduling task for I need to do this during this period of time, IT is the thing that has friction. And sitting on the couch doing nothing only has friction because you might want to do something else, but then you feel like you're not allowed to do something else.

And sitting on the couch rotting is not something you have to do, so it's just something you want to do. And those are sort of different things. That's why doesn't IT wouldn't work for me at least.

Yeah, yeah. I I don't want to do. First of all, I put rot on the couch and clean. I shared calender right now and i'm going to see how long IT takes taking for what um but yeah, I don't think I can schedule that for me. The reason I don't schedule that is because writing on the cultures, the reason i'm not doing all the other tasks because i'm like sitting on the couch debating on what I wanted do next, which just means turning on youtube and then thinking hard about what I want to do next than doing none of IT yeah so being able to rot on the couch, get board in twenty minutes and then look at my task, me like H, I could get quite a few things done right now helps.

That was the thing you said the last time. Yeah, I was like if if Andrew gets into this is actually really work for because you saying was, if I remember, right, you're like, I have these moments to pressure on the weekends where I will, all of us sudden get real energy to be productive. I, I, I, I feel good, right? I'm like I have ninety minutes of goby useful energy. And then you were saying, basically like you spend some portion at that time just sort of spinning around in the circle trying to figure what to do and the idea of being able to be like, I have time to do all the things and have all the things just sitting there in front of you um and and the way you describe that, at least that sounded like that list would not be daunting IT would be like inspiring and IT sounds like a sort of husband which is really cool.

I would say it's done two things which is, one is that IT has like inspired me to be like, I I have all these things that listed right here. If I just get them done, this is thirty minutes top and I knock off more than half of the things I have to do right now.

And the other is, when I am in that productive more mode, and I just look at my list rather than pink ponging back between different things is much easier to be like, i'm doing this, i'm doing this, i'm doing this. I'm doing this and then they've done and then I can rot on the couch forever. Yeah, with with nothing hanging over my head and it's great.

Well, now lane can cross. So that making me my charter. But .

David, you organized these tasks by like things that are much bigger versus things that are smaller and easier to get done. Because, for example, I have like, you know, I always want to be working on this video project, and sometimes I have the energy to go work on the video project, but sometimes I get home from work and i'm like, I want to do something, but i'm kind of mentally drained that I don't know if I have the energy to go to the coffee shop and right for another three hours. So how do you, how do you like segment out the load of the mental load that IT .

takes to do these? Tata, it's tough. And I think one of the things I do most days at the very begin of the day is just sit down and basically write a list of what I think my day is going to look like.

And it's just like right down all the meetings, right down the whatever like stuff I have to get done today, workplace SE. And then at the bottom have just like a list of things that might be nice to work on. Some of that is like longer term stories.

Some of that is things I O other people for work reasons, some of that is personal stuff. Uh, one of the things on my list for this evening as I have to buy blinds, because that window lets in a lot of late and looks back on camera. And like, has that done on my list every day for two weeks? IT sure has.

But but so I think the way that i've come to do IT is like the list I have is like, this is this stuff that is going to happen today because IT has to because this is what my day looks like. And then at the bottom, it's kind of, I don't know, hopeful. It's it's aspirational.

But I i've learned to like I don't feel bad when I don't think that have done at all. That is like that is the stuff that IT would be good to work on and if I don't, whatever. But like, what injure is saying, if I get to the end of the day or two pm or whatever, and I like, oh, I have, I have two hours with nothing to do.

What should I do? Like now I have a list of things that I have actually previous me said, I want to do sitting in front of me and sometimes I do none of those things and play video games. And that's also fine, right?

So I know that you told Andrew a number of things that he should be doing, and that's why people love been asking for updates for months ah do you any recommendations for how to get my life together?

怎么 超出 问题？ Where where do we? I might think for you would be just take the things with a day and time attached to them and put them somewhere other than your head。 okay?

Like don't feel like you have to upload everything, but just like and IT probably IT sounds like in this case, your calendar could be the answer to that thing, right? Like calendars have reminders that ten minute reminders is really useful in a lot of cases. IT also tells you like when you have to do a thing.

So I would just like for for the things that taking out the trash every week, right, like it's it's such an easy example, right? Instead of just trusting the over, remember that just put IT. And then if you remember IT and is there in your calendar, it's totally duplicative and IT cost you nothing but IT.

But IT helps IT really does. And I think for that kind of thing, IT IT seems to be a mix, whether the idea like having a full giant to do list of all the things I ever hope to accomplish ever is helpful or not, right for people. And that's like a purely personal thing but I think for everybody this idea of like things I have to do at a time in place, I am not to be trusted to remember all of those things. And and there are systems like calendars that are Better at those than I am. Yeah so I would just start there for you is just like that that first step of just I have to do a thing in five days instead of hammering in the new brain I mean, like I will remember this in five days, just put on the counter worry about in five OK.

And then as far as like tasks, do you recommend google test? Do you think that I should be starting on that?

So but the problem with google tasks is is not very powerful, but that is also kind of its superpower um yeah IT doesn't do very much, but IT is right there, right and that's the thing that worked for you, Andrew, is IT is right there and it's it's easy to look at, is easy to add stuff to IT sits next to the other google apps that you use all day ah you can have stuff appear in your calendar so you can it'll like show you you're to do list at the top of every day, right? Again, whether that's useful totally up to you.

But that is a thing IT. I think take take to do list and to do list rather are easily Better, more powerful, more useful apps. They're also just a lot more and it's another thing to check. So I think both of those are like declaring your intentions to be like I am a person who uses to do this right tasks is just like a place you can dump a bunch of stuff and IT all kind of resurface for you.

Yes, I do think task would work Better for me because i've tried to use to do a syn tec tic and stuff. And just like notion, I just get overwhelmed by IT.

IT just becomes an APP. You have to check, which is more than a lot of people want. And I know what you've been saying.

We are google task was like you don't actually have to look at at that. Often, IT eventually makes you want to over time as you get more stuff in there. But in the surfaces .

and places that you'd like weren't looking for previously.

I think if you took the keep to do list and just move that to tasks and now had your keep as like the big set of notes and then just did, that is just going to be exactly the same with some notification reminders on IT totally. And I think and then we'll .

start yelling a google to actually make those the same thing, which they should happen .

the home time and then your screen shots, i'll give you reminders .

and everything will be screen shots of all of your tasks and then searching .

and then use the screen shots up for my tasks.

David, I know we're almost out of time. Do you have one more minute? We have one last question for you.

sure. I got good.

For the three of you, we have apple's september event coming up very, very soon. And apple traditionally unveiled the new iphone in september, but apples been doing september events long before the iphone. In fact, apple has held an event every september since two thousand two, except for which two years.

But two thousand and two in this year.

two thousand and two in this year, there have only been two years where they subsequent .

they were not subsequent shoot. okay?

One point for each each.

Way, this is so wrong.

Okay, so David pride has them in his head, not written on a White board because we didn't send of a White part before this. Yeah.

I also looked around. I don't have any paper on.

David is our guest. And of course, we would let him go.

That's so nice. I don't want to go first .

well as our guest. Then natura can go first.

I wrote two thousand and eight and two thousand twice.

So close.

H David.

I I wrote two .

thousand and six in two thousand and nineteen for some marine .

is not David piers.

I I had two thousand seven, because that was the timid whole theory behind IT two twenty twenty was there a cover one?

There was a covet one in september IT was visual that was .

also four m one where was two .

thousand and seven explanation?

Well, they launched the iphone in january and IT came out like.

I think, no, no, I was wrong in twenty twenty. They had one of october and november, but not really which means, David.

I won a .

techne almost put. Okay.

that's fine. What was the other year?

Uh, in two thousand four, they held the event in october. And then again in two thousand eleven. Thank you.

In two thousand and eleven. The iphone five was announced in november, in november. wow. wait. Now that was in two thousand and twelve, in two thousand and eleven.

twenty twelve.

two, two thousand .

and twelve was a september event. Two thousand and eleven was a november, yes, a november event where they announced, find my friends a refresh, ed. Ipod nano, the first ipod touch, and reveal the iphone exit. Be not the first ipod touch, a refreshed ipod touch and the iphone 4 s with.

gosh, how could we forget that?

Yeah, there's nowhere.

alright. awesome. Thank you. Thank you that for joining.

Thank you me back and to say i'm very proud I I pro you did has vastly exceeded all of my expectations. And I hope I IT sounds like this is good for you.

Been serious way for me. If anyone's thin, i've changing IT a task cap, I highly recommend giving you a try. Google task is the easier to want to take to try.

And you can expect an invoice from .

peers in week put ah yeah thanks so much and I guess will check back on David when I reason as something we will see how he's doing or all just send you notes on .

the side to see if yeah I I just start yelling a day that publicly I A my .

calender right .

yellow David, two months for .

now so yeah, so much. Thanks guys. Yeah OK David, I think your first google task.

okay, throw us to .

one more ad break.

right? Test up google like com. Throw to ad break. Uh, we will be right back check.

I feel good. yeah.

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podcast right. Welcome back garmin, I guess, adam, and get really excited for garmin government and maybe like one one hundred ds of our viewers if that um garden just released the phoenix a and IT looks bunker IT looks IT was really sick um so i've using the epic je to for I think this has been on my rist for almost two four years now which is kind of crazy um and I still love IT I almost went to like the stamping gala's watch because I look really nice but was super heavy and I didn't love IT um I love this watch mostly because battery life and because of how terrible al IT is.

But this phoenix eight looks awesome and so awesome that I wouldn't that if we never see another epix from garden again. Yeah, I ve seen confirmed, but i've had people tweeted me already being like the, is that fix going away? Yeah, is this taking the place? But the writing on the wall, I think mostly because now the epic had the Emily screens, and this new phoenix day is also have an emile screen. And I think with pen ix being the model we've been running for years, this is guy .

run running x running version. The runs.

I think, run running specific. And and the phoenix is just like their flagship, and theyve probably resized three sizes, tons of different screens. Oh yeah, let's go over that.

A quake there. There is a forty seven, forty three millimeter, forty seven millimeter. And the fifty one millimeter, I believe this forty seven. So fifty one is, yeah, yeah.

I constantly kind of wish I had the smaller version of this um not only that, so they all three sizes come and Emily and then two sizes come in solar which will have a timer screen. But because it's solar IT will as long as you in the sun for three hours a day, IT increases battery life by like double or something like that. I said fifty one millimeter. Emily models twenty nine days of atterly life and smart watch mode. And with the fifty one millimeter solar model with always on display, forty eight days, as long as here in the sun for three hours a day.

which not a lot of people in the sun for three hours.

nobody eight is still an absurd number. And like, yeah, at least compared to the smart watches we talk about, yeah garment is on an astir by itself for miles compared anything else we're like begging apple watch alter maybe had three days and this thing is like, yeah have heard three months. 王子， yeah um thing which is really cool.

They look fantastic. There's this big new orange like i'm guessing like an action. But in on the forty seven meal and the fifty one mal, um they look great.

Pricing is up there though it's ridiculous. Low Price nine ninety nine for the m glass version, which isn't even the seven glass version, which feel like most government people would probably want this. I um those are starting at for the forty three and forty seven millimeter safie emile's. Are ten ninety .

nine the same Price for bigger? Gg.

sure. If you go to fifty one then you're at eleven ninety nine or ten ninety nine for the glass. Um and then the solar ones are the same prizes, the same emil's.

So ten nine ninety nine or eleven ninety nine that's a wild that's a wild Price. So but I feel like people who really like stuff like this would maybe be more OK paying for that. I don't know. Garments never really been but yeah say they have cheap models, but I don't think the phoenix has been their cheap model.

I would love to see how big the one millimeter .

looks in part I I all three .

other like watch the three .

little bears yeah god likes yet um but there's a much really cool things on here the um we have the two different screens. There's a built in speaker end of microphones. You can take phone call straight from your watch so without headphones can't wear but also super James bond. So always a plus um voice commands like starting way points at a timer, certain ones that don't need your phone to just watch specific activities, which is pretty cool. And L D flashlight with great next control and sun.

separate flash or a strobe .

and red, oh my awesome stream control the yeah I hate watches that are like flash. I just like this White screen. Like what am I doing with a moving my risk like that makes like no sense. Um streng training plans and specific workout for different sports, I think is really good. So there's four to six week plans that you can use and follow and .

like the government connect a wow.

Was that already on the previous one or now .

I don't believe so running stuff.

definitely not for ones that are specific for different sports. Yeah some doubt there's ultimate or discussion there. Never know, never know forty meter rated dive case or diverted case.

I know nothing about dividing, so I think that's good. Forty meters is more than most people will ever need, but not as good as regular watches. O, good, good to know. Here is the worst thing about this garment. Messenger apps. You can communicate, texting, three or watch, but only to other people who have the government, what that don't even what is that that is all, oh my god, garden, I love you, but that makes serous and .

I want you can send regular attacks.

Uh, you can reply the text message through like quick replies and stuff like that, at least on this. But I assume if you want to do the texting strait from the watch without your phone, it's like garden g messaging, which I didn't even know they had a messaging up. Yeah maybe .

that's their way around like IOS not letting them do anything.

Maybe it's one of those things we're like IT just doesn't matter and at least is not pride adding to the Price of the watch at all, but it's just dumb. Um there is also a bunch of new navigation capabilities and preloaded golf in skivers or maps, which is pretty sweet.

So there's all not only as their topographic maps like of whatever content you're in, which is usually you pick one when you start setting up your watch and like I love this for hiking um it's really awesome. But now you also get golf and ski resorts and ski school resorts. That's awesome.

It's really easy to get lost on this here on your way back at the bridge. So that's pretty key. 你 也都 with the male on this， which is the reason I finally, like really started loving, uh, they had IT on a couple, I think, the venue to had an emile d screen.

But I think that was taking government watches away previously as they looked terrible. The screen compared to the smart watches. V, C, all the time. But I hate to the battle on those. Emily on this looks so nice.

Yeah it's too bad you won't have that if .

you do the so one yeah I I really feel like the solar one will be for people who do like the appellation trail or like really, really long acting this um I get like fourteen days of battery life with this. This seems even Better. Yeah yeah. I'm like I can get seven days of .

always on display. I A watch that is effectively in infinite. Is that the way these are?

Like you never it's not it's not going to be infant. Y M. I bet you if you did like super power saving mode and solar have like that, you could go that.

But then it's not really doing much. But IT has to do so much more than your regular watch. And I tried.

says you.

There is not infinite. But so I think it's forty eight days with always on display on as long as you're outside for three hours a day, back all the time, like you getting a super solid artery.

like a lot of people take about a month to do a part of the P. C. T. So you could do the entire thing without a dying.

The entire well.

the entire thing, I think like .

month long part of the the .

a lot of .

those. And the way they do, they'll stop in the town after example of days or weeks. So like being able to charge each time you stop at a local town to, like supply is, well.

the shower economy in those towns must be nuts.

Like postal service in those towns just get boxes that gets sent all time like that. With that, one also needs to follow on tiktok as people record themselves doing the P. C, T.

In the application trail, and you can follow. People do the go, yeah, those are the new watches. They are their specific government. If you listening, adam and I would be happy to try them out. Just say me, animal tried to .

going to glasher tomorrow about myself.

so I might need something like this. Yeah, you have an SOS watch now.

You have a regular cash. Or David, yeah, but my pixel line now has S, O, S. features. Satellite as nice I can wait.

you provide your tripping plaster is the most beautiful place. I'm a little .

scared to be honest.

but I think if you see bears, just walk towards them.

Yeah, i'll run. Tods them with my camera.

running doors of them. Try Better than .

running away from.

Um okay. But before we give any more barefaced, especially barefaced, I get people .

go move on. I think class the best jokes .

are once day.

I know if everyone, if you're driving.

Doing the dishes stop.

Yeah, make sure there's no liquids in your mouth. When do you hear this? The size split or no? no. Where does one go? The best weeks of hiking watches .

a twitter.

The fame insider merck.

Out a mark german, thank you. I see. What you've never .

fit on your way to bed, sheep prancing over your nose and then IT just power right in.

The kids are hilarious joke some, yeah.

I guess so. And then google tasks. 嗯， ag will remind me to tell them the sweet k garmin .

large garden watch joke tomorrow .

on the perfect unit .

I want european ion from. I got this tiktok over the weekend.

I think never a good sign. No.

it's always a good first of from this crater named Derek G, I believe it's G. E. He is awesome. I only saw him on tiktok, but I realize youtube, gentle and sea all that stuff, but does a lot of music listening slash, high fire audio stuff.

I think i've seen him talk about headphones or earplugs anywhere from, like, really nice same hazers to like the man walked. I tools truly wireless earbuds and it's awesome. Um but he brought up this pair of headphones called the N W M one I believe and they are I don't not describe they are not open back headphones because there's no back to them.

They're just open headphones, I guess. Um the easier way to describe them as pair of over year headphones. And then there's a circle, the circle cup around your ears and then it's completely open to the back in the outside world.

And then has these drivers that are in a cone shape that can move like be adJusting to shoot into your ear and as best as possible, especially interest. And it's kind of similar like the SONY linked buds s yeah. Was that the ones that were truly wireless car? But they .

have transparently, they a yc regular.

yeah. Then the regular link buds. So you had a whole for sound to come interior now, but then you had sound playing around IT pretty much. So I was like physical transparency mode. That's what this is. And from some of the stuff besides the loudness of IT and not great bees, uh, he said IT was really cool being able to feel to be able to hear everything Normally.

And at one point that described IT as like um in a movie when like the sound's track starts coming up like behind but you can still hear everything that's going on, I thought was a pretty interesting idea. They are three hundred dollars. But thing I want to know, Alice, what are your thoughts on this? And I would.

I have to try them know. I feel like something this, this out there kind of requires me. I can't even imagine.

Does IT intrigue enough to be like I could see a space for these or I could see myself using this in some scenario?

No, but that might be a me thing because like when i'm listening the staff, I feel like loudness is kind of the thing that i'm like the most interested in usually. Like how did this mastering or mix engineer interpret loudness is a concept for this project and that nothing messes with your sense of perceived loudness more than noise.

Like if you you as an experiment at home, like put on a movie and turn on a fan in the room that you're watching the movie with, and you will have to turn the movie up like five clicks like way more, even if it's like a quiet fan, just like that bad of noise. So and and you also noticed IT with airports s pro, when you put when you're on the phone or listen music and you put IT into full transparency like you got ta bump IT up. And it's not like sounds actually getting quieter.

It's so you your sense of perceived loudness get so messed up with any sort outside notes. So I could just see myself being annoyed with this, but i'm curious i'm curious they have dual drivers that kind of cool. They're ported.

Um just the look of them is intriguing. I feel like the having just like this cup around your year, that's not really a cup.

but they're like not as embarrassing as the dicon airflow headphones.

You think these are embarrassing. I think they're kind of cool looking really.

Yeah yeah. I would feel if I was on the subway with these and people, I I would feel so silly really. I think .

so they .

are sleep yeah. Do you want you .

like people to see these like these coes stick in india ears like, I don't think .

he looks super, tony, until you like really just in his video, he shows that they are just a little bit and so IT gets like the one I think he said it's the there's two different, the two drivers, ones around the outside in, the ones more on the the middle, precise one. And that is closer here. So that's what the colon is, but doesn't look super. Tony IT looks about the same size as a regular of headphones.

Just I think I would fly with like these hollow desks. I feel less silly than the SONY loop but I think of .

what you can see those like.

yeah that's why but but no, i'm i'm curious. I don't think they are for me personal but curious.

I think i'm going to trying to reach out to them and see if we can get .

review that would be awesome, sweet. Well, I guess let's go to some trivia. So this means you asking us a new question.

right? Because we already .

answered one .

question right on the money. Alright guys, real creative. I know i've got another question about september apple events.

Is the season guys, which of the following things did not happen at a september apple event? A the motorola rocker that R, O K R is announced that a phone with itunes built in motorola rocker. b.

Steve jobs announced that the Harry potter series will be available on itunes as audio books. c. Kyo west performs his hit single live or exceed me, his hit single gold digger live on stage, or d. Phil shiller makes his only documented reference to minecraft.

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he's got to get on that ill because .

he doesn't stop talking about .

that time because is the time .

he's really .

not happen.

Which of those things is not true?

okay. He's clearly not a shiller if he's not chillen for minecraft every day, David.

thanks was Better than my marker and joke. You guys both put Connie and you're boat wrong cony s fact.

You have that song like just that.

All three of the first things I named all happened in two thousand and five.

What a matter of a september of ord. I remember, I remember the motorola unes thing.

a motorola unes. Steve jobs talks about Harry potter and cane. O, S.

performs l shelter. Was that .

about or he .

always think about?

Well, one of the two.

you don't have to look that up. I feel like that's going to .

be hard when to look well. So originally, the first version of the question was fill shiller makes his only reference to fortnight. And then I was like that's not realistic because fill shiller, you know, was like deposed in that epic he would never talk about.

He did talk about .

my craft shut out .

he was in september probably not.

I made that up that I is are my lies started to bend reality towards the truth.

Um as as as we were talking to some of the biggest game developers, for example minecraft, they say I totally get why you would want to be able to pay to pay for IT on device. But we have a lot of users coming who bother their subscription the .

account so they want talking about payment stuff.

He said my raft.

i'm talking that's nowy. I'm talking about filcher er on stage at september and he's talking about punching trees.

Yeah okay, this is july stand we were wrong in.

which is kind performed. So yeah.

that seems like the most unlikely.

But here we are.

That song fall like that. I was edited IT out of the events shortly after. Really they regretted IT.

Alright well thanks for joining us for a market less episode unless you're an audio to where you may have thought David was.

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They do um if we get ten thousand likes, will never invite market back.

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I know is how to throw the mark throws us out. In fact, mark usually stops the out and usually .

building guys. This is like what happens when an ant colony dies and other workers are just like .

and come back and we're all to in room with the same recording.

oh my god, I got you here.

All right. Well, that's another episode of the way for broadcast. As you may have noticed, we actually did really say bonus episode wednesday. If you did not yet watch that or listen to that, make sure that you listen to IT because it's a banger ah and we will be back next week with another round of trivia and news um so thank you.

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